• A Tale Of Two Protests

    From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 2 07:15:01 2024
    Pro-Palestine demonstrators at their weekly Saturday event were met
    today by a counter-protest from Brian Tamaki’s crowd <https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/03/02/watch-standoff-during-haka-at-christchurch-gaza-protest/>.
    Yet another bunch of Christians still trying to make up for centuries
    of persecuting Jews as “Christ killers”, I guess.

    Yes, Hamas did something so heinous on October 7 that it’s difficult
    to imagine how any subsequent event could overshadow it. Yet that is
    exactly what Israel has achieved, with its murderous rampage in Gaza
    that Irish PM Leo Varadkar described as going beyond any reasonable
    right to “self-defence”, and instead became “something approaching revenge”.

    And to those who want the return of the hostages being held by Hamas:
    note that Netanyahu has, soothing words aside, so far shown no signs
    of caring. He seems set on slaughtering everyone in Gaza, including
    his fellow Jews.

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  • From BR@21:1/5 to ldo@nz.invalid on Sun Mar 3 08:05:01 2024
    On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 07:15:01 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Pro-Palestine demonstrators at their weekly Saturday event were met
    today by a counter-protest from Brian Tamakis crowd ><https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/03/02/watch-standoff-during-haka-at-christchurch-gaza-protest/>.
    Yet another bunch of Christians still trying to make up for centuries
    of persecuting Jews as Christ killers, I guess.

    Yes, Hamas did something so heinous on October 7 that its difficult
    to imagine how any subsequent event could overshadow it. Yet that is
    exactly what Israel has achieved, with its murderous rampage in Gaza
    that Irish PM Leo Varadkar described as going beyond any reasonable
    right to self-defence, and instead became something approaching
    revenge.

    And to those who want the return of the hostages being held by Hamas:
    note that Netanyahu has, soothing words aside, so far shown no signs
    of caring. He seems set on slaughtering everyone in Gaza, including
    his fellow Jews.

    Israel is in a war that they did not start. Winning is the only thing
    that matters, so they must do whatever it takes to achieve that
    objective. They have no duty whatsoever to the enemy, particularly if
    it will get in the way of complete victory.

    The Germans would have won WWII if the vaccilating position that you
    represent was adopted by the Western alliance.

    Bill.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 2 20:05:50 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 03 Mar 2024 08:05:01 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:

    On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 07:15:01 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro >><ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Pro-Palestine demonstrators at their weekly Saturday event were met
    today by a counter-protest from Brian Tamakis crowd >>><https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/03/02/watch-standoff-during-haka-at-christchurch-gaza-protest/>.
    Yet another bunch of Christians still trying to make up for centuries
    of persecuting Jews as Christ killers, I guess.

    Yes, Hamas did something so heinous on October 7 that its difficult
    to imagine how any subsequent event could overshadow it. Yet that is >>>exactly what Israel has achieved, with its murderous rampage in Gaza
    that Irish PM Leo Varadkar described as going beyond any reasonable
    right to self-defence, and instead became something approaching >>>revenge.

    And to those who want the return of the hostages being held by Hamas: >>>note that Netanyahu has, soothing words aside, so far shown no signs
    of caring. He seems set on slaughtering everyone in Gaza, including
    his fellow Jews.

    Israel is in a war that they did not start.
    Yes they did start the war, through a poor reaction to an appalling
    act of terrorism within their own country
    This abominable crisis did not happen over the past few months. It started generations ago - and simple minded people conveniently ignore that.
    Winning is the only thing
    that matters, so they must do whatever it takes to achieve that
    objective. They have no duty whatsoever to the enemy, particularly if
    it will get in the way of complete victory.

    The Germans would have won WWII if the vaccilating position that you >>represent was adopted by the Western alliance.
    There is no valid comparison. The Germans started WWII by invading
    another sovereign territory.
    Bill didn't make a com[parison, he explained why the comment he responded to was wrong. Logic is not your strength is it?



    Bill.

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  • From Willy Nilly@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 2 20:14:45 2024
    On Sun, 03 Mar 2024, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 03 Mar 2024 08:05:01 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:
    Israel is in a war that they did not start.
    Yes they did start the war, through a poor reaction to an appalling
    act of terrorism within their own country

    With this response you have reduced yourself to irrelevance.

    The Germans would have won WWII if the vaccilating position that you >>represent was adopted by the Western alliance.
    There is no valid comparison. The Germans started WWII by invading
    another sovereign territory.

    You are willfully misapplying the word "valid". There is no more
    point in discussing with you, than with any evil AI.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to blah@blah.blah on Sun Mar 3 08:25:13 2024
    On Sun, 03 Mar 2024 08:05:01 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:

    On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 07:15:01 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Pro-Palestine demonstrators at their weekly Saturday event were met
    today by a counter-protest from Brian Tamakis crowd >><https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/03/02/watch-standoff-during-haka-at-christchurch-gaza-protest/>.
    Yet another bunch of Christians still trying to make up for centuries
    of persecuting Jews as Christ killers, I guess.

    Yes, Hamas did something so heinous on October 7 that its difficult
    to imagine how any subsequent event could overshadow it. Yet that is >>exactly what Israel has achieved, with its murderous rampage in Gaza
    that Irish PM Leo Varadkar described as going beyond any reasonable
    right to self-defence, and instead became something approaching >>revenge.

    And to those who want the return of the hostages being held by Hamas:
    note that Netanyahu has, soothing words aside, so far shown no signs
    of caring. He seems set on slaughtering everyone in Gaza, including
    his fellow Jews.

    Israel is in a war that they did not start.
    Yes they did start the war, through a poor reaction to an appalling
    act of terrorism within their own country
    Winning is the only thing
    that matters, so they must do whatever it takes to achieve that
    objective. They have no duty whatsoever to the enemy, particularly if
    it will get in the way of complete victory.

    The Germans would have won WWII if the vaccilating position that you >represent was adopted by the Western alliance.
    There is no valid comparison. The Germans started WWII by invading
    another sovereign territory.



    Bill.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 2 21:13:47 2024
    On Sun, 03 Mar 2024 08:05:01 +1300, BR wrote:

    Israel is in a war that they did not start.

    As António Guterres said, October 7 did not start in a vacuum.

    The Zionists have been evicting Palestinians and stealing their land for
    the better part of a century. And then they use any act of resistance from
    the oppressed to oppress them even more. Is it any wonder the anger grows?
    How would you respond if you were treated this way in your own land?

    The “two-state solution” has been dangled like a carrot in front of them for decades, as some kind of reward they might get someday, if they will
    only behave. But groups dominating the current Israeli Government have, as
    a clear part of their long-standing policy, no intention of allowing the creation of a Palestinian state, ever. “From the river to the sea”, they want it all.

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  • From Mutley@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Tue Mar 5 11:01:52 2024
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Sun, 03 Mar 2024 08:05:01 +1300, BR wrote:

    Israel is in a war that they did not start.

    As Antnio Guterres said, October 7 did not start in a vacuum.

    The Zionists have been evicting Palestinians and stealing their land for
    the better part of a century. And then they use any act of resistance from >the oppressed to oppress them even more. Is it any wonder the anger grows? >How would you respond if you were treated this way in your own land?

    The two-state solution has been dangled like a carrot in front of them
    for decades, as some kind of reward they might get someday, if they will
    only behave. But groups dominating the current Israeli Government have, as
    a clear part of their long-standing policy, no intention of allowing the >creation of a Palestinian state, ever. From the river to the sea, they
    want it all.

    Now your true colors come out. You are anti semitic and anti Jew.
    You world have done well in WW2 Germany.

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  • From BR@21:1/5 to ldo@nz.invalid on Wed Mar 6 18:08:48 2024
    On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 21:13:47 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Sun, 03 Mar 2024 08:05:01 +1300, BR wrote:

    Israel is in a war that they did not start.

    As Antnio Guterres said, October 7 did not start in a vacuum.

    The Zionists have been evicting Palestinians and stealing their land for
    the better part of a century. And then they use any act of resistance from >the oppressed to oppress them even more. Is it any wonder the anger grows? >How would you respond if you were treated this way in your own land?

    The two-state solution has been dangled like a carrot in front of them
    for decades, as some kind of reward they might get someday, if they will
    only behave. But groups dominating the current Israeli Government have, as
    a clear part of their long-standing policy, no intention of allowing the >creation of a Palestinian state, ever.

    And so they shouldn't, not anywhere near Israel anyway. The clear
    intent of the those in control of Gaza is the extermination of the
    Jews. Israel has shown remarkable restraint in puttlng up with those
    brutal savages for as long as they have. None of the surrounding
    states want a bar of them. October 7th is a clear example of what a
    two state solution would lead to, because on October the 6th, there
    was one. Allowing Hamas to get away with it would spell doom for
    Israel and everyone knows it, friend and foe alike. When the Jews
    proclaimed "never again!" after the holocaust, they weren't kidding.
    Hamas MUST be destroyed, and Israel must do whatever it takes to
    achieve this. Their survival depends on it.

    Bill.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 9 05:38:00 2024
    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 18:08:48 +1300, BR wrote:

    Israel has shown remarkable restraint in puttlng up with those
    brutal savages for as long as they have.

    Genocides in history have typically been preceded by a campaign of
    dehumanizing the intended victims.

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