• Semi-Automatics for "Sport"?

    From Rich80105@21:1/5 to ldo@nz.invalid on Thu Feb 29 11:06:53 2024
    Lawrence, my newsreader had problems replying to your post, telling me
    it could not be sent due to syntax errors in the Subject heading.
    Rather than trying to get around that, I have created a new thread to
    replace:
    "Why do you want Semi-Automatics for "Sport"?"


    On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 20:38:40 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 02:27:28 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:

    ... perhaps [Ranty McRantFace] was speaking from memory of a verbal
    exchange and merely did not correctly recall detail . . ..

    Responding to the voices in his head, in other words. I’ve noticed that
    more than once.

    ... and in that case I understand [Shooty McShootFace] gained access to
    the semi-automatic firearms through being a member of a gun club . . .

    Pro-gun lobbyists like to talk about being “law-abiding”, yet most mass >shooters get their weapons legally.

    Lawrence, please do not mis-quote my post. I made no reference
    to "[Ranty McRantFace]", and by quoting a segment of a post out of
    context you risk mis-representing other posters. It is usually better
    to leave original posts untouched, so that any quotes you make can be
    seen in context.

    I said:
    "From that article, the summary saying "Nicole McKee is talking about re-legalizing military-style semi-automatic weapons (of the kind used
    in the Ides of March massacre) for ''sporting'' purposes." seems
    quite accurate - she did not just raise the issue, but suggested
    changes to security and storage requirements, and proper vetting
    processes. If there is a lie or cognitive failure it appears most
    likely to be from Tony rather than Lawrence, but perhaps Tony was
    speaking from memory of a verbal exchange and merely did not correctly
    recall detail . . .. Of concern to others will be the statement "If
    you think about what the Christchurch terrorist did five years ago, he
    did that in about 17 minutes. He reached two locations, was able to
    kill 51 people, bullet wound more than 40 and then impact all those
    who were present for the rest of their lives." - and in that case I
    understand he gained access to the semi-automatic firearms through
    being a member of a gun club . . ."

    While I agree with your statement that most mass-shooters get their
    weapons legally, we do hear from police that they are concerned at the
    level of forearms held by gangs. I believe we need to assist police by
    making the rules very clear, so that if firearms are found they can be
    very easily identified as to ownership and where they are supposed to
    be stored elsewhere. I recall an article from some time ago that
    pointed out that in Australia, police responding to a domestic
    incident are able to be told by a dispatcher what forearms are listed
    as being held on that property, so they can adequately prepare. It
    appears that National. With NAct1st discussing not even having police
    attend some "domestic" calls, it is even more important that a social
    worker or other worker have such knowledge.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Feb 29 00:09:06 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Lawrence, my newsreader had problems replying to your post, telling me
    it could not be sent due to syntax errors in the Subject heading.
    Rather than trying to get around that, I have created a new thread to >replace:
    "Why do you want Semi-Automatics for "Sport"?"


    On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 20:38:40 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro ><ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 02:27:28 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:

    ... perhaps [Ranty McRantFace] was speaking from memory of a verbal
    exchange and merely did not correctly recall detail . . ..

    Responding to the voices in his head, in other words. I’ve noticed that >>more than once.

    ... and in that case I understand [Shooty McShootFace] gained access to
    the semi-automatic firearms through being a member of a gun club . . .

    Pro-gun lobbyists like to talk about being “law-abiding”, yet most mass >>shooters get their weapons legally.

    Lawrence, please do not mis-quote my post. I made no reference
    to "[Ranty McRantFace]", and by quoting a segment of a post out of
    context you risk mis-representing other posters. It is usually better
    to leave original posts untouched, so that any quotes you make can be
    seen in context.
    A minority opinion.

    I said:
    "From that article, the summary saying "Nicole McKee is talking about >re-legalizing military-style semi-automatic weapons (of the kind used
    in the Ides of March massacre) for ''sporting'' purposes." seems
    quite accurate - she did not just raise the issue, but suggested
    changes to security and storage requirements, and proper vetting
    processes. If there is a lie or cognitive failure it appears most
    likely to be from Tony rather than Lawrence, but perhaps Tony was
    speaking from memory of a verbal exchange and merely did not correctly
    recall detail . . .. Of concern to others will be the statement "If
    you think about what the Christchurch terrorist did five years ago, he
    did that in about 17 minutes. He reached two locations, was able to
    kill 51 people, bullet wound more than 40 and then impact all those
    who were present for the rest of their lives." - and in that case I >understand he gained access to the semi-automatic firearms through
    being a member of a gun club . . ."

    While I agree with your statement that most mass-shooters get their
    weapons legally, we do hear from police that they are concerned at the
    level of forearms held by gangs. I believe we need to assist police by
    making the rules very clear, so that if firearms are found they can be
    very easily identified as to ownership and where they are supposed to
    be stored elsewhere. I recall an article from some time ago that
    pointed out that in Australia, police responding to a domestic
    incident are able to be told by a dispatcher what forearms are listed
    as being held on that property, so they can adequately prepare. It
    appears that National. With NAct1st discussing not even having police
    attend some "domestic" calls, it is even more important that a social
    worker or other worker have such knowledge.
    None of which addresse the original lie by inference.

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