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  • Re: Taxpayers' Union

    From Gordon@21:1/5 to Tony on Sat Feb 24 20:50:23 2024
    XPost: nz.politics

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    On 2024-02-24, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/240223_newsletter
    Nice to see their balanced political stand - now criticising this government and intending to holding it to account - just what they did with the last government.
    Worth a read -
    The NZTA seems to be moving away from core business.
    Praise for the Labour appointed finance spokesperson.
    Accurate criticism of the new vice chancellor of Otago University.

    Rich will have to rebrand the Tax Payers Union into the good guys now that
    they are pointing out what National is doing.

    It does seem that Babara has jumped into the wrong boat. It does seem that
    she does not talk woke. Also understands history.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 24 20:28:45 2024
    XPost: nz.politics

    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/240223_newsletter
    Nice to see their balanced political stand - now criticising this government and intending to holding it to account - just what they did with the last government.
    Worth a read -
    The NZTA seems to be moving away from core business.
    Praise for the Labour appointed finance spokesperson.
    Accurate criticism of the new vice chancellor of Otago University.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to Gordon on Sun Feb 25 11:58:35 2024
    On 24 Feb 2024 20:50:23 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    ["Followup-To:" header set to nz.general.]
    On 2024-02-24, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/240223_newsletter
    Nice to see their balanced political stand - now criticising this government >> and intending to holding it to account - just what they did with the last
    government.
    Worth a read -
    The NZTA seems to be moving away from core business.
    Praise for the Labour appointed finance spokesperson.
    Accurate criticism of the new vice chancellor of Otago University.

    Rich will have to rebrand the Tax Payers Union into the good guys now that >they are pointing out what National is doing.

    It does seem that Babara has jumped into the wrong boat. It does seem that >she does not talk woke. Also understands history.

    You mistake the Taxpayers Union for a National Party supporting
    organisation - they represent the Atlas Network, and will support
    anything that leads that way - they see ACT as more "on track' than
    National, but will support whoever gives them the 'track' they choose.
    They criticise the NZTA for raising money from speeders, knowing that
    is really quite a small issue - but they only mention the Minister as
    a hapless captive of his department, when in reality Brown is
    probably encouraging any fundraising they can do to reinforce "tough
    on crime" and to enable income tax cuts! This is a window dressing
    newsletter, Gordon, bashing the left and supporting the right with a
    sham 'neutral' stance.

    Look for them to criticise "Crusher" Goldsmith for trying to emulate a
    previous Minister crushed less than 6 vehicles, for destroying bikes
    that could have been sold to Australians for more money! https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350191466/comanchero-gangs-distinctive-motorbikes-turned-scrap-metal

    You should tell the "Taxpayers Union" to get back on track for TAX
    CUTS!!!

    Of more interest to you may be : https://thestandard.org.nz/about-the-promoters-electoral-returns/

    We know that Groundswell was 'assisted' by The Taxpayer Union to get
    started - perhaps they passed on more money to them and others for
    this election campaign . . .

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sun Feb 25 00:16:00 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 24 Feb 2024 20:50:23 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    ["Followup-To:" header set to nz.general.]
    On 2024-02-24, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/240223_newsletter
    Nice to see their balanced political stand - now criticising this >>>government
    and intending to holding it to account - just what they did with the last >>> government.
    Worth a read -
    The NZTA seems to be moving away from core business.
    Praise for the Labour appointed finance spokesperson.
    Accurate criticism of the new vice chancellor of Otago University.

    Rich will have to rebrand the Tax Payers Union into the good guys now that >>they are pointing out what National is doing.

    It does seem that Babara has jumped into the wrong boat. It does seem that >>she does not talk woke. Also understands history.

    You mistake the Taxpayers Union for a National Party supporting
    organisation
    That is a lie.
    - they represent the Atlas Network, and will support
    anything that leads that way - they see ACT as more "on track' than
    National, but will support whoever gives them the 'track' they choose.
    They criticise the NZTA for raising money from speeders, knowing that
    is really quite a small issue - but they only mention the Minister as
    a hapless captive of his department, when in reality Brown is
    probably encouraging any fundraising they can do to reinforce "tough
    on crime" and to enable income tax cuts! This is a window dressing >newsletter, Gordon, bashing the left and supporting the right with a
    sham 'neutral' stance.
    No the Taxpayer';s union is non-partisan politically and they show that clearl;y tyo all who have open eyes.

    Look for them to criticise "Crusher" Goldsmith for trying to emulate a >previous Minister crushed less than 6 vehicles, for destroying bikes
    that could have been sold to Australians for more money!
    I believe that would have been illegal, trust you to want to break the law. >https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350191466/comanchero-gangs-distinctive-motorbikes-turned-scrap-metal

    You should tell the "Taxpayers Union" to get back on track for TAX
    CUTS!!!
    They have never been after tax cuts, they have consistently been in favour of better use of taxpayers' money.

    Of more interest to you may be : >https://thestandard.org.nz/about-the-promoters-electoral-returns/
    A political hack.

    We know that Groundswell was 'assisted' by The Taxpayer Union to get
    started - perhaps they passed on more money to them and others for
    this election campaign . . .
    And perhaps you are lying again - I suspect so. Can you provide proof? That's a huge NO you can't

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Sun Feb 25 16:10:48 2024
    On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 00:16:00 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 24 Feb 2024 20:50:23 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    ["Followup-To:" header set to nz.general.]
    On 2024-02-24, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/240223_newsletter
    Nice to see their balanced political stand - now criticising this >>>>government
    and intending to holding it to account - just what they did with the last >>>> government.
    Worth a read -
    The NZTA seems to be moving away from core business.
    Praise for the Labour appointed finance spokesperson.
    Accurate criticism of the new vice chancellor of Otago University.

    Rich will have to rebrand the Tax Payers Union into the good guys now that >>>they are pointing out what National is doing.

    It does seem that Babara has jumped into the wrong boat. It does seem that >>>she does not talk woke. Also understands history.

    You mistake the Taxpayers Union for a National Party supporting >>organisation
    That is a lie.
    - they represent the Atlas Network, and will support
    anything that leads that way - they see ACT as more "on track' than >>National, but will support whoever gives them the 'track' they choose.
    They criticise the NZTA for raising money from speeders, knowing that
    is really quite a small issue - but they only mention the Minister as
    a hapless captive of his department, when in reality Brown is
    probably encouraging any fundraising they can do to reinforce "tough
    on crime" and to enable income tax cuts! This is a window dressing >>newsletter, Gordon, bashing the left and supporting the right with a
    sham 'neutral' stance.
    No the Taxpayer';s union is non-partisan politically and they show that >clearl;y tyo all who have open eyes.

    The TU is non-partisan - but people like Rich with a one-eyed
    political agenda cannot see this. There are many members of the TU
    who no doubt support various political parties. Rich likes to tar the
    TU brand with the political affiliations of its founders. If we can
    have a civil service that is politically neutral (with many free to
    hold private political views) then why is it not possible for the TU
    to follow a similar model?


    Look for them to criticise "Crusher" Goldsmith for trying to emulate a >>previous Minister crushed less than 6 vehicles, for destroying bikes
    that could have been sold to Australians for more money!
    I believe that would have been illegal, trust you to want to break the law. >>https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350191466/comanchero-gangs-distinctive-motorbikes-turned-scrap-metal

    You should tell the "Taxpayers Union" to get back on track for TAX
    CUTS!!!
    They have never been after tax cuts, they have consistently been in favour of >better use of taxpayers' money.

    Correct. Their byline of 'Lower Taxes, Less Waste, More
    Accountability' can only be interpreted as support for National's tax
    revenue adjustments (incorrectly called tax cuts when tax rates remain unchanged) by those with an anti-TU agenda, like Rich. It is
    noteworthy that Rich cannot produce a statement from the TU that
    explicitly supports Nationals tax-bracket adjustments.

    Of more interest to you may be : >>https://thestandard.org.nz/about-the-promoters-electoral-returns/
    A political hack.

    We know that Groundswell was 'assisted' by The Taxpayer Union to get >>started - perhaps they passed on more money to them and others for
    this election campaign . . .
    And perhaps you are lying again - I suspect so. Can you provide proof? That's a
    huge NO you can't

    Rich is long on speculation that supports his agenda but is not based
    on cited evidence.


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    Crash McBash

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