Tragic, sad news.
Tragic, sad news.
Tragic, sad news.Yes tragic, one of the few MPs that actually cared about people.
So young.
I remember him being a strong liaison for the Pasifika community during
the worst of Covid-19, ensuring that they were not marginalized in terms
of information about prevention and vaccination.
This has "vaccine death" written all over it.
On Wed, 21 Feb 2024, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 00:04:23 GMT, Willy Nilly wrote:
This has "vaccine death" written all over it.
Still stuck on that obsession, are you?
[crap]
On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 00:04:23 GMT, Willy Nilly wrote:
This has "vaccine death" written all over it.
Still stuck on that obsession, are you?
On Wed, 21 Feb 2024, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
If he had myocarditis, he wouldn’t have been on his feet. He would have >>been sick in bed.
Let's see if the coroner findings are made public, but I certainly don't expect them to blame the vaccine because they never do.
If he had myocarditis, he wouldn’t have been on his feet. He would have >been sick in bed.
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
Tragic, sad news.Yes tragic, one of the few MPs that actually cared about people.
On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 23:36:37 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz>Of course you have to provide an example of when he was criticising a political belief that you hate.
wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
Tragic, sad news.Yes tragic, one of the few MPs that actually cared about people.
I agree. He was seen in different contexts, and some of those
different ways of remembering him are coming through:
https://subslack.substack.com/p/efeso-collins
https://vimeo.com/913187002
(and from that speech:
"It's hard to be poor, it's expensive to be poor, and moreover, public >discourse is making it socially unacceptable to be poor. Whether it's
bashing on beneficiaries, dragging our feet towards a living wage,
throwing shade on school breakfast programmes, or restricting people's >ability to collectively bargain for fairer working conditions, we must
do better to lift aspirations and the lived realities of all our
people. To that end, I want to say to this House with complete surety
that the neoliberal experiment of the 1980s has failed. The economics
of creating unemployment to manage inflation is farcical when domestic >inflation in New Zealand has been driven by big corporates making
excessive profits. It's time to draw a line in the sand, and alongside
my colleagues here in Te Pati Kakariki, we've come as the pallbearers
of neoliberalism, to bury these shallow, insufferable ideas once and
for all. And this, sir, is our act of love." )
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350187638/efeso-collins-longtime-public-servant-who-hoped-fight-poverty-mp
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/faanana-efeso-collins-was-a-politician-of-heart-and-soul-simon-wilson/WZ43K7HTRJF45JP6HO6BXLX7BA/
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/focus-christopher-luxon-speaks-about-efeso-collins/AZQAJNAKN6Y542DG7MKZQ35H3Q/
On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 02:34:09 GMT, Willy Nilly wrote:And you would disagree wouldn't you.
On Wed, 21 Feb 2024, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
If he had myocarditis, he wouldn’t have been on his feet. He would have >>>been sick in bed.
Let's see if the coroner findings are made public, but I certainly don't
expect them to blame the vaccine because they never do.
But then, you would say that, wouldn’t you?
On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 05:55:22 GMT, Tony wrote:There are too many questions about the safety of the Covid vaccines to be presumptive. After all Galileo was imprisoned at home for saying that the sun was at the centre of our solar system.
And you would disagree wouldn't you.
Unlike some people, I don’t make things up.
<https://www.heartfoundation.org.nz/your-heart/heart-conditions/myocarditis> You have yet to prove that anybody has made anything up - wishful thinking perhaps?
And you would disagree wouldn't you.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 05:55:22 GMT, Tony wrote:There are too many questions about the safety of the Covid vaccines to be >presumptive. After all Galileo was imprisoned at home for saying that the sun >was at the centre of our solar system.
And you would disagree wouldn't you.
Unlike some people, I don’t make things up.
<https://www.heartfoundation.org.nz/your-heart/heart-conditions/myocarditis> >You have yet to prove that anybody has made anything up - wishful thinking >perhaps?
On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 06:35:19 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz>Liar - you do not agree.
wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 05:55:22 GMT, Tony wrote:There are too many questions about the safety of the Covid vaccines to be >>presumptive. After all Galileo was imprisoned at home for saying that the sun >>was at the centre of our solar system.
And you would disagree wouldn't you.
Unlike some people, I don’t make things up.
<https://www.heartfoundation.org.nz/your-heart/heart-conditions/myocarditis> >>You have yet to prove that anybody has made anything up - wishful thinking >>perhaps?
I agree Tony.
To presume that the death of Efeso Collins death hadI disagree, as I stated above - the opposite is correct.
anything to do with either Covid Vaccines or Galileo would indeed be >presumptive.
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