This makes greatful reading. We are in the process of sorting out the mess >from the last 3 years of the Labour Government.
Quote of the month, "We were not elected to manage decline." - Chris Luxon
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350183480/nz-politics-live-pm-christopher-luxon-gives-state-nation-address
"The Government's progress so far:Pretty good for their first 81 days..
Here are a few of the things Luxon said the government had done within the >first 81 days of forming:
Abolished the Ute Tax.
Stopped Auckland Light Rail, which after six years, cost taxpayers more than $200 million.
Repealing the Auckland Regional Fuel Tax gone on the 1st of July.
Cancelled Lets Get Wellington Moving.
Repealed Labours RMA reforms.
Banned cellphones in schools.
Disestableshed Te Pukenga.
Commissioned an independent review into Kainga Ora led by Sir Bill English
Taken the first steps to extend free breast cancer screening up to age 74.
Soon they'll introduce legislation to disestablish the M?ori Health Authority.
Brought in tough new laws going after gangs and illegal firearms.
Ended taxpayer funding for cultural reports.
Repealed Labours Three Waters reforms."
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
This makes greatful reading. We are in the process of sorting out the mess >>from the last 3 years of the Labour Government.Pretty good for their first 81 days..
Quote of the month, "We were not elected to manage decline." - Chris Luxon
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350183480/nz-politics-live-pm-christopher-luxon-gives-state-nation-address
"The Government's progress so far:
Here are a few of the things Luxon said the government had done within the >>first 81 days of forming:
Abolished the Ute Tax.
Stopped Auckland Light Rail, which after six years, cost taxpayers more than $200 million.
Repealing the Auckland Regional Fuel Tax gone on the 1st of July.
Cancelled Lets Get Wellington Moving.
Repealed Labours RMA reforms.
Banned cellphones in schools.
Disestableshed Te Pukenga.
Commissioned an independent review into Kainga Ora led by Sir Bill English
Taken the first steps to extend free breast cancer screening up to age 74.
Soon they'll introduce legislation to disestablish the M?ori Health Authority.
Brought in tough new laws going after gangs and illegal firearms.
Ended taxpayer funding for cultural reports.
Repealed Labours Three Waters reforms."
On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 10:59:51 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>That is a very silly sentence.
wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
This makes greatful reading. We are in the process of sorting out the mess >>>from the last 3 years of the Labour Government.Pretty good for their first 81 days..
Quote of the month, "We were not elected to manage decline." - Chris Luxon >>>
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350183480/nz-politics-live-pm-christopher-luxon-gives-state-nation-address
"The Government's progress so far:
Here are a few of the things Luxon said the government had done within the >>>first 81 days of forming:
Abolished the Ute Tax.
Stopped Auckland Light Rail, which after six years, cost taxpayers more >>>than $200 million.
Repealing the Auckland Regional Fuel Tax gone on the 1st of July.
Cancelled Lets Get Wellington Moving.
Repealed Labours RMA reforms.
Banned cellphones in schools.
Disestableshed Te Pukenga.
Commissioned an independent review into Kainga Ora led by Sir Bill >>>English
Taken the first steps to extend free breast cancer screening up to age >>>74.
Soon they'll introduce legislation to disestablish the M?ori Health >>>Authority.
Brought in tough new laws going after gangs and illegal firearms.
Ended taxpayer funding for cultural reports.
Repealed Labours Three Waters reforms."
Seems like they are parked at an intersection, stopping whatever goes
by, but have not yet found that track they wanted to get on . . .
You forgot that they also stopped Auckland from deciding forYes, another good result.
themselves when to stop extra fuel tax they decided to levy, or how
the money they had not yet spent should be used.
They are also stopping councils from around the country from keepingThat is a lie - the cost of fixing water infrastructure will be paid for by New Zealanders, not the fairies or the folk from Newfoundland. Whether it is ratepayers or through taxes is not particularly important. The cost will be the cost - and we need to do it. The issue, putting aside your idiotic comments, is whether we do it democratically or whether we do it the Lbour way by hiding undemocratic representation in the guise of water improvements.
rates low - there are huge increases coming to cover the costs of work
on water - and by not borrowing themselves and on-lending they are
making the costs of borrowing even higher than necessary.
Stopping things is relatively easy - if a little brutal to the promiseAlready happening. It just needs a person to open their eyes.
to keep costs down, but when do you think they will find that track
they are looking for and actually do something?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:The mayor is not happy - he believes he was elected to get the
On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 10:59:51 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>That is a very silly sentence.
wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
This makes greatful reading. We are in the process of sorting out the mess >>>>from the last 3 years of the Labour Government.Pretty good for their first 81 days..
Quote of the month, "We were not elected to manage decline." - Chris Luxon >>>>
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350183480/nz-politics-live-pm-christopher-luxon-gives-state-nation-address
"The Government's progress so far:
Here are a few of the things Luxon said the government had done within the >>>>first 81 days of forming:
Abolished the Ute Tax.
Stopped Auckland Light Rail, which after six years, cost taxpayers more >>>>than $200 million.
Repealing the Auckland Regional Fuel Tax gone on the 1st of July. >>>> Cancelled Lets Get Wellington Moving.
Repealed Labours RMA reforms.
Banned cellphones in schools.
Disestableshed Te Pukenga.
Commissioned an independent review into Kainga Ora led by Sir Bill >>>>English
Taken the first steps to extend free breast cancer screening up to age >>>>74.
Soon they'll introduce legislation to disestablish the M?ori Health >>>>Authority.
Brought in tough new laws going after gangs and illegal firearms.
Ended taxpayer funding for cultural reports.
Repealed Labours Three Waters reforms."
Seems like they are parked at an intersection, stopping whatever goes
by, but have not yet found that track they wanted to get on . . .
Yes, another good result.
You forgot that they also stopped Auckland from deciding for
themselves when to stop extra fuel tax they decided to levy, or how
the money they had not yet spent should be used.
That is a lie - the cost of fixing water infrastructure will be paid for by New
They are also stopping councils from around the country from keeping
rates low - there are huge increases coming to cover the costs of work
on water - and by not borrowing themselves and on-lending they are
making the costs of borrowing even higher than necessary.
Zealanders, not the fairies or the folk from Newfoundland. Whether it is >ratepayers or through taxes is not particularly important. The cost will be the
cost - and we need to do it. The issue, putting aside your idiotic comments, is
whether we do it democratically or whether we do it the Lbour way by hiding >undemocratic representation in the guise of water improvements.
Already happening. It just needs a person to open their eyes.
Stopping things is relatively easy - if a little brutal to the promise
to keep costs down, but when do you think they will find that track
they are looking for and actually do something?
On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 23:46:12 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz>The mayor is deluded if he thinks that is why he was elected. The government governs the entire country and population thereof including Auckland. Maybe you need a lesson in governance and democracy.
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:The mayor is not happy - he believes he was elected to get the
On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 10:59:51 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:That is a very silly sentence.
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
This makes greatful reading. We are in the process of sorting out the mess >>>>>from the last 3 years of the Labour Government.Pretty good for their first 81 days..
Quote of the month, "We were not elected to manage decline." - Chris Luxon >>>>>
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350183480/nz-politics-live-pm-christopher-luxon-gives-state-nation-address
"The Government's progress so far:
Here are a few of the things Luxon said the government had done within the >>>>>first 81 days of forming:
Abolished the Ute Tax.
Stopped Auckland Light Rail, which after six years, cost taxpayers >>>>>more
than $200 million.
Repealing the Auckland Regional Fuel Tax gone on the 1st of July. >>>>> Cancelled Lets Get Wellington Moving.
Repealed Labours RMA reforms.
Banned cellphones in schools.
Disestableshed Te Pukenga.
Commissioned an independent review into Kainga Ora led by Sir Bill >>>>>English
Taken the first steps to extend free breast cancer screening up to age >>>>>74.
Soon they'll introduce legislation to disestablish the M?ori Health >>>>>Authority.
Brought in tough new laws going after gangs and illegal firearms. >>>>> Ended taxpayer funding for cultural reports.
Repealed Labours Three Waters reforms."
Seems like they are parked at an intersection, stopping whatever goes
by, but have not yet found that track they wanted to get on . . .
Yes, another good result.
You forgot that they also stopped Auckland from deciding for
themselves when to stop extra fuel tax they decided to levy, or how
the money they had not yet spent should be used.
government out of Auckland - I guess the Government did not get the
message . . .
Irrelevant. The entire country will be paying for water repairs regardless of the method so your comments are irrational.That is a lie - the cost of fixing water infrastructure will be paid for by >>New
They are also stopping councils from around the country from keeping >>>rates low - there are huge increases coming to cover the costs of work
on water - and by not borrowing themselves and on-lending they are
making the costs of borrowing even higher than necessary.
Zealanders, not the fairies or the folk from Newfoundland. Whether it is >>ratepayers or through taxes is not particularly important. The cost will be >>the
cost - and we need to do it. The issue, putting aside your idiotic comments, >>is
whether we do it democratically or whether we do it the Lbour way by hiding >>undemocratic representation in the guise of water improvements.
I agree that the costs of fixing water infrastructure will be paid for
by New Zealanders. The government have indicated that the Councils
involved in each water entity will need to borrow and that the
government will not lend them the money - I have not heard whether
they will guarantee loans from banks. That will cost more than the
government borrowing and on-lending to the water entities. Up to about
40 to 50 years ago it was possible to buy local authority as well as >government bonds - the local authorities paid an additional margin of
around 0.25% to account for the bonds being less tradeable and less
secure. In recent years when local authorities have needed to borrow
capital they have borrowed from the government - it saves the country
money. It appears that the government does not want to see the
borrowing and nearly equivalent asset of the debt from local
authorities in its accounts.
Already happening. It just needs a person to open their eyes.
Stopping things is relatively easy - if a little brutal to the promise
to keep costs down, but when do you think they will find that track
they are looking for and actually do something?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 10:59:51 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>That is a very silly sentence.
wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
This makes greatful reading. We are in the process of sorting out the mess >>>>from the last 3 years of the Labour Government.Pretty good for their first 81 days..
Quote of the month, "We were not elected to manage decline." - Chris Luxon >>>>
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350183480/nz-politics-live-pm-christopher-luxon-gives-state-nation-address
"The Government's progress so far:
Here are a few of the things Luxon said the government had done within the >>>>first 81 days of forming:
Abolished the Ute Tax.
Stopped Auckland Light Rail, which after six years, cost taxpayers more >>>>than $200 million.
Repealing the Auckland Regional Fuel Tax gone on the 1st of July. >>>> Cancelled Lets Get Wellington Moving.
Repealed Labours RMA reforms.
Banned cellphones in schools.
Disestableshed Te Pukenga.
Commissioned an independent review into Kainga Ora led by Sir Bill >>>>English
Taken the first steps to extend free breast cancer screening up to age >>>>74.
Soon they'll introduce legislation to disestablish the M?ori Health >>>>Authority.
Brought in tough new laws going after gangs and illegal firearms.
Ended taxpayer funding for cultural reports.
Repealed Labours Three Waters reforms."
Seems like they are parked at an intersection, stopping whatever goes
by, but have not yet found that track they wanted to get on . . .
Yes, another good result.
You forgot that they also stopped Auckland from deciding for
themselves when to stop extra fuel tax they decided to levy, or how
the money they had not yet spent should be used.
That is a lie - the cost of fixing water infrastructure will be paid for by New
They are also stopping councils from around the country from keeping
rates low - there are huge increases coming to cover the costs of work
on water - and by not borrowing themselves and on-lending they are
making the costs of borrowing even higher than necessary.
Zealanders, not the fairies or the folk from Newfoundland. Whether it is ratepayers or through taxes is not particularly important. The cost will be the
cost - and we need to do it. The issue, putting aside your idiotic comments, is
whether we do it democratically or whether we do it the Lbour way by hiding undemocratic representation in the guise of water improvements.
Already happening. It just needs a person to open their eyes.
Stopping things is relatively easy - if a little brutal to the promise
to keep costs down, but when do you think they will find that track
they are looking for and actually do something?
On 2024-02-19, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Fairness requires the government to appoint the best people to manage the process. It is that simple - it is how business works and it is how government should work (in cases like this anyway) devoid of politics.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 10:59:51 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:That is a very silly sentence.
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
This makes greatful reading. We are in the process of sorting out the mess >>>>>from the last 3 years of the Labour Government.Pretty good for their first 81 days..
Quote of the month, "We were not elected to manage decline." - Chris Luxon >>>>>
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350183480/nz-politics-live-pm-christopher-luxon-gives-state-nation-address
"The Government's progress so far:
Here are a few of the things Luxon said the government had done within the >>>>>first 81 days of forming:
Abolished the Ute Tax.
Stopped Auckland Light Rail, which after six years, cost taxpayers >>>>>more
than $200 million.
Repealing the Auckland Regional Fuel Tax gone on the 1st of July. >>>>> Cancelled Lets Get Wellington Moving.
Repealed Labours RMA reforms.
Banned cellphones in schools.
Disestableshed Te Pukenga.
Commissioned an independent review into Kainga Ora led by Sir Bill >>>>>English
Taken the first steps to extend free breast cancer screening up to age >>>>>74.
Soon they'll introduce legislation to disestablish the M?ori Health >>>>>Authority.
Brought in tough new laws going after gangs and illegal firearms. >>>>> Ended taxpayer funding for cultural reports.
Repealed Labours Three Waters reforms."
Seems like they are parked at an intersection, stopping whatever goes
by, but have not yet found that track they wanted to get on . . .
Yes, another good result.
You forgot that they also stopped Auckland from deciding for
themselves when to stop extra fuel tax they decided to levy, or how
the money they had not yet spent should be used.
That is a lie - the cost of fixing water infrastructure will be paid for by >>New
They are also stopping councils from around the country from keeping >>>rates low - there are huge increases coming to cover the costs of work
on water - and by not borrowing themselves and on-lending they are
making the costs of borrowing even higher than necessary.
Zealanders, not the fairies or the folk from Newfoundland. Whether it is
ratepayers or through taxes is not particularly important. The cost will be >>the
cost - and we need to do it. The issue, putting aside your idiotic comments, >>is
whether we do it democratically or whether we do it the Lbour way by hiding >> undemocratic representation in the guise of water improvements.
Leaving aside the matter of Co-govenace, the point that the people will have >to pay for the water improvements has been lost. Whether it is the taxpayer, >or the rate payer, or a poll tax is perhaps the important point. How do we >make it so that it is fair.
Already happening. It just needs a person to open their eyes.
Stopping things is relatively easy - if a little brutal to the promise
to keep costs down, but when do you think they will find that track
they are looking for and actually do something?
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