🇳🇿 has joined 🇦🇺 and 🇨🇦 in telling 🇮🇱 that it would be >like, a reallyOK so you are happy for us to not take a stand against something you have repeatedly criticised here for weeks.
bad idea to extend their murderous rampage into Rafah, and could they,
like, please stop and not exterminate any more Palestinians, if they
would be so kind.
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/there-is-simply-nowhere-else-for-civilians-to-go-new-zealand-canada-australia-warn-israel-rafah-invasion-would-be-catastrophic/GNDNO654MND2PGITUC7KN4TTWY/>
Does anybody really expect Netanyahu and his fanatic cohort to pay
any attention?
Do they shite ...
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
🇳🇿 has joined 🇦🇺 and 🇨🇦 in telling 🇮🇱 that it would beOK so you are happy for us to not take a stand against something you have >repeatedly criticised here for weeks.
like, a really
bad idea to extend their murderous rampage into Rafah, and could they, >>like, please stop and not exterminate any more Palestinians, if they
would be so kind.
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/there-is-simply-nowhere-else-for-civilians-to-go-new-zealand-canada-australia-warn-israel-rafah-invasion-would-be-catastrophic/GNDNO654MND2PGITUC7KN4TTWY/>
Does anybody really expect Netanyahu and his fanatic cohort to pay
any attention?
Do they shite ...
Or do you enjoy emulating Rich with such sarcasm?
Make your mind up Lawrence.
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 05:43:03 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz>You really have nothing to say - so why write meaningless words like this. Desperation continues even after your precious incompetent and uncaring Labour government realised they were going to be fired.
wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
🇳🇿 has joined 🇦🇺 and 🇨🇦 in telling 🇮🇱 that it would >>>beOK so you are happy for us to not take a stand against something you have >>repeatedly criticised here for weeks.
like, a really
bad idea to extend their murderous rampage into Rafah, and could they, >>>like, please stop and not exterminate any more Palestinians, if they >>>would be so kind.
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/there-is-simply-nowhere-else-for-civilians-to-go-new-zealand-canada-australia-warn-israel-rafah-invasion-would-be-catastrophic/GNDNO654MND2PGITUC7KN4TTWY/>
Does anybody really expect Netanyahu and his fanatic cohort to pay
any attention?
Do they shite ...
Or do you enjoy emulating Rich with such sarcasm?
Make your mind up Lawrence.
I don't know about Tony, but the time for taking a stand was a while
ago - when Luxon whimped out. He then whimped out with the Israeli >Ambassador, but has at last found some "allies" who will "express
concern" in a sufficiently "there but the grace of god . . ." way that
he found it OK to join with them for a joint statement that will not
cause much of a ripple anywhere. Luxon will be pleased with the
response - it is not often he manages to say something that will not
get disagreement from the coalition partners or offend someone else.
Since most will ignore it that is a real win for C Luxon!
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
🇳🇿 has joined 🇦🇺 and 🇨🇦 in telling 🇮🇱 that it would be like, a really
bad idea to extend their murderous rampage into Rafah, and could they, >>like, please stop and not exterminate any more Palestinians, if they
would be so kind.
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/there-is-simply-nowhere-else-for-civilians-to-go-new-zealand-canada-australia-warn-israel-rafah-invasion-would-be-catastrophic/GNDNO654MND2PGITUC7KN4TTWY/>
Does anybody really expect Netanyahu and his fanatic cohort to pay any >>attention?
Do they shite ...
[incoherent blather]
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 05:43:03 GMT, Tony wrote:Who are you talking to?
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
🇳🇿 has joined 🇦🇺 and 🇨🇦 in telling 🇮🇱 that it would >>>be like, a really
bad idea to extend their murderous rampage into Rafah, and could they, >>>like, please stop and not exterminate any more Palestinians, if they >>>would be so kind.
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/there-is-simply-nowhere-else-for-civilians-to-go-new-zealand-canada-australia-warn-israel-rafah-invasion-would-be-catastrophic/GNDNO654MND2PGITUC7KN4TTWY/>
Does anybody really expect Netanyahu and his fanatic cohort to pay any >>>attention?
Do they shite ...
[incoherent blather]
This may be a wild guess, but were you talking about the treatment
being meted out to the Houthis? You think maybe that would work here?
A surgical strike, not on Netanyahu, but on either Smotrich or Ben
Gvir. Take out one of them, and maybe the rest will think twice about
trying to exterminate Palestinians and steal their land.
Worth a try?
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:It would be easy to say nz.general, Tony, but then I am sure you
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 05:43:03 GMT, Tony wrote:Who are you talking to?
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
🇳🇿 has joined 🇦🇺 and 🇨🇦 in telling 🇮🇱 that it would >>>>be like, a really
bad idea to extend their murderous rampage into Rafah, and could they, >>>>like, please stop and not exterminate any more Palestinians, if they >>>>would be so kind.
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/there-is-simply-nowhere-else-for-civilians-to-go-new-zealand-canada-australia-warn-israel-rafah-invasion-would-be-catastrophic/GNDNO654MND2PGITUC7KN4TTWY/>
Does anybody really expect Netanyahu and his fanatic cohort to pay any >>>>attention?
Do they shite ...
[incoherent blather]
This may be a wild guess, but were you talking about the treatment
being meted out to the Houthis? You think maybe that would work here?
A surgical strike, not on Netanyahu, but on either Smotrich or Ben
Gvir. Take out one of them, and maybe the rest will think twice about >>trying to exterminate Palestinians and steal their land.
Worth a try?
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:10:11 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz>Bullshit removed.
wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 05:43:03 GMT, Tony wrote:Who are you talking to?
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
🇳🇿 has joined 🇦🇺 and 🇨🇦 in telling 🇮🇱 that it >>>>>would
be like, a really
bad idea to extend their murderous rampage into Rafah, and could they, >>>>>like, please stop and not exterminate any more Palestinians, if they >>>>>would be so kind.
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/there-is-simply-nowhere-else-for-civilians-to-go-new-zealand-canada-australia-warn-israel-rafah-invasion-would-be-catastrophic/GNDNO654MND2PGITUC7KN4TTWY/>
Does anybody really expect Netanyahu and his fanatic cohort to pay any >>>>>attention?
Do they shite ...
[incoherent blather]
This may be a wild guess, but were you talking about the treatment
being meted out to the Houthis? You think maybe that would work here?
A surgical strike, not on Netanyahu, but on either Smotrich or Ben
Gvir. Take out one of them, and maybe the rest will think twice about >>>trying to exterminate Palestinians and steal their land.
Worth a try?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:What are you talking about? We all know this is your group, Tony. You
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:10:11 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz>Bullshit removed.
wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 05:43:03 GMT, Tony wrote:Who are you talking to?
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
🇳🇿 has joined 🇦🇺 and 🇨🇦 in telling 🇮🇱 that it >>>>>>would
be like, a really
bad idea to extend their murderous rampage into Rafah, and could they, >>>>>>like, please stop and not exterminate any more Palestinians, if they >>>>>>would be so kind.
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/there-is-simply-nowhere-else-for-civilians-to-go-new-zealand-canada-australia-warn-israel-rafah-invasion-would-be-catastrophic/GNDNO654MND2PGITUC7KN4TTWY/>
Does anybody really expect Netanyahu and his fanatic cohort to pay any >>>>>>attention?
Do they shite ...
[incoherent blather]
This may be a wild guess, but were you talking about the treatment >>>>being meted out to the Houthis? You think maybe that would work here?
A surgical strike, not on Netanyahu, but on either Smotrich or Ben >>>>Gvir. Take out one of them, and maybe the rest will think twice about >>>>trying to exterminate Palestinians and steal their land.
Worth a try?
Rich you are a poseur, a piece of trash. Your intent to control this newsgroup >is the only time you get to express yourself without being told to shut up and >that happens here as well eh? Poor little fish that you are..
Yup, a poor small man with a history of failure, that is all you are.
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 21:58:51 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz>Sarcasm gone for now, but Rich can't help putting more of here - he has nothing of more value than sarcasm - how sad.
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:10:11 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz>Bullshit removed.
wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 05:43:03 GMT, Tony wrote:Who are you talking to?
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
🇳🇿 has joined 🇦🇺 and 🇨🇦 in telling 🇮🇱 that it >>>>>>>would
be like, a really
bad idea to extend their murderous rampage into Rafah, and could they, >>>>>>>like, please stop and not exterminate any more Palestinians, if they >>>>>>>would be so kind.
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/there-is-simply-nowhere-else-for-civilians-to-go-new-zealand-canada-australia-warn-israel-rafah-invasion-would-be-catastrophic/GNDNO654MND2PGITUC7KN4TTWY/>
Does anybody really expect Netanyahu and his fanatic cohort to pay any >>>>>>>attention?
Do they shite ...
[incoherent blather]
This may be a wild guess, but were you talking about the treatment >>>>>being meted out to the Houthis? You think maybe that would work here? >>>>>
A surgical strike, not on Netanyahu, but on either Smotrich or Ben >>>>>Gvir. Take out one of them, and maybe the rest will think twice about >>>>>trying to exterminate Palestinians and steal their land.
Worth a try?
Rich you are a poseur, a piece of trash. Your intent to control this >>newsgroup
is the only time you get to express yourself without being told to shut up >>and
that happens here as well eh? Poor little fish that you are..
Yup, a poor small man with a history of failure, that is all you are.
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 05:43:03 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz>
wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
🇳🇿 has joined 🇦🇺 and 🇨🇦 in telling 🇮🇱 that it would beOK so you are happy for us to not take a stand against something you have >>repeatedly criticised here for weeks.
like, a really
bad idea to extend their murderous rampage into Rafah, and could they, >>>like, please stop and not exterminate any more Palestinians, if they >>>would be so kind.
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/there-is-simply-nowhere-else-for-civilians-to-go-new-zealand-canada-australia-warn-israel-rafah-invasion-would-be-catastrophic/GNDNO654MND2PGITUC7KN4TTWY/>
Does anybody really expect Netanyahu and his fanatic cohort to pay
any attention?
Do they shite ...
Or do you enjoy emulating Rich with such sarcasm?
Make your mind up Lawrence.
I don't know about Tony, but the time for taking a stand was a while
ago - when Luxon whimped out. He then whimped out with the Israeli >Ambassador, but has at last found some "allies" who will "express
concern" in a sufficiently "there but the grace of god . . ." way that
he found it OK to join with them for a joint statement that will not
cause much of a ripple anywhere. Luxon will be pleased with the
response - it is not often he manages to say something that will not
get disagreement from the coalition partners or offend someone else.
Since most will ignore it that is a real win for C Luxon!
Typical Labor supporter of terrorism.
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:10:11 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz>
wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:It would be easy to say nz.general, Tony, but then I am sure you
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 05:43:03 GMT, Tony wrote:Who are you talking to?
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
🇳🇿 has joined 🇦🇺 and 🇨🇦 in telling 🇮🇱 that it would
be like, a really
bad idea to extend their murderous rampage into Rafah, and could they, >>>>>like, please stop and not exterminate any more Palestinians, if they >>>>>would be so kind.
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/there-is-simply-nowhere-else-for-civilians-to-go-new-zealand-canada-australia-warn-israel-rafah-invasion-would-be-catastrophic/GNDNO654MND2PGITUC7KN4TTWY/>
Does anybody really expect Netanyahu and his fanatic cohort to pay any >>>>>attention?
Do they shite ...
[incoherent blather]
This may be a wild guess, but were you talking about the treatment
being meted out to the Houthis? You think maybe that would work here?
A surgical strike, not on Netanyahu, but on either Smotrich or Ben
Gvir. Take out one of them, and maybe the rest will think twice about >>>trying to exterminate Palestinians and steal their land.
Worth a try?
already know that.
For you, I can also say that in a sense, every
poster is addressing remarks directly to you as well as others reading
the group;
as we know you read the posts of others, and what you may
not realise is that you often provide affirmation to others that their
views do have value, that discussion even with those who do not agree
can be worthwhile, and that we can be glad to be in a country where it
is possible to say things that others may not always agree with. Tour
posts do point out that we will not always see things the same way;
that we can strive to do better, and that we can be proud of the
opportunity to bring our personal views to a wide group of people. In
posting to nz.general, we know that you will be ready to contribute a >different and at times startling viewpoint; you will help many to
affirm that their own posts have worth and value, and not to dwell
too much on differences in opinions, even if we do not share them.
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 10:06:47 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:10:11 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz>
wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:It would be easy to say nz.general, Tony, but then I am sure you
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 05:43:03 GMT, Tony wrote:Who are you talking to?
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
🇳🇿 has joined 🇦🇺 and 🇨🇦 in telling 🇮🇱 that it would
be like, a really
bad idea to extend their murderous rampage into Rafah, and could they, >>>>>>like, please stop and not exterminate any more Palestinians, if they >>>>>>would be so kind.
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/there-is-simply-nowhere-else-for-civilians-to-go-new-zealand-canada-australia-warn-israel-rafah-invasion-would-be-catastrophic/GNDNO654MND2PGITUC7KN4TTWY/>
Does anybody really expect Netanyahu and his fanatic cohort to pay any >>>>>>attention?
Do they shite ...
[incoherent blather]
This may be a wild guess, but were you talking about the treatment >>>>being meted out to the Houthis? You think maybe that would work here?
A surgical strike, not on Netanyahu, but on either Smotrich or Ben >>>>Gvir. Take out one of them, and maybe the rest will think twice about >>>>trying to exterminate Palestinians and steal their land.
Worth a try?
already know that.
Incorrect Rich. There has never been any concept of replying to a
newsgroup in general and this has been pointed many times with
archival reference to evidence in practice. Every response is to the >previous poster. The newsgroup is the venue or vehicle, the response
is to an individual poster.
I have used nz.general as the vehicle to respond to you, and this is
the very essence of the hierarchy of thread illustrations by all
reputable usenet clients.
For you, I can also say that in a sense, every
poster is addressing remarks directly to you as well as others reading
the group;
Not true. See above. This is a figment of your imagination. Take a
look at most posts in all newsgroups.
as we know you read the posts of others, and what you may
not realise is that you often provide affirmation to others that their >>views do have value, that discussion even with those who do not agree
can be worthwhile, and that we can be glad to be in a country where it
is possible to say things that others may not always agree with. Tour
posts do point out that we will not always see things the same way;
that we can strive to do better, and that we can be proud of the >>opportunity to bring our personal views to a wide group of people. In >>posting to nz.general, we know that you will be ready to contribute a >>different and at times startling viewpoint; you will help many to
affirm that their own posts have worth and value, and not to dwell
too much on differences in opinions, even if we do not share them.
Irrelevant. See above.
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 20:34:11 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 10:06:47 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:10:11 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz>
wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:It would be easy to say nz.general, Tony, but then I am sure you
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 05:43:03 GMT, Tony wrote:Who are you talking to?
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
🇳🇿 has joined 🇦🇺 and 🇨🇦 in telling 🇮🇱 that it would
be like, a really
bad idea to extend their murderous rampage into Rafah, and could they, >>>>>>>like, please stop and not exterminate any more Palestinians, if they >>>>>>>would be so kind.
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/there-is-simply-nowhere-else-for-civilians-to-go-new-zealand-canada-australia-warn-israel-rafah-invasion-would-be-catastrophic/GNDNO654MND2PGITUC7KN4TTWY/>
Does anybody really expect Netanyahu and his fanatic cohort to pay any >>>>>>>attention?
Do they shite ...
[incoherent blather]
This may be a wild guess, but were you talking about the treatment >>>>>being meted out to the Houthis? You think maybe that would work here? >>>>>
A surgical strike, not on Netanyahu, but on either Smotrich or Ben >>>>>Gvir. Take out one of them, and maybe the rest will think twice about >>>>>trying to exterminate Palestinians and steal their land.
Worth a try?
already know that.
Incorrect Rich. There has never been any concept of replying to a >>newsgroup in general and this has been pointed many times with
archival reference to evidence in practice. Every response is to the >>previous poster. The newsgroup is the venue or vehicle, the response
is to an individual poster.
Of course people can write for the whole group - every "original
poster" does just that, and in many cases the second poster is not
directly responding tot he first post.
The problem is that Tony just
hates free speech; he wants to create rules and restrictions - a
typical authoritarian far right thinker. But there is new for those
sorts - freedoms and the ability to speak your mind have long been
more acceptable to parties like the Green Party and Labour, but have
been unacceptable to the authoritarian right. Seymour, encouraged by
Jordan Carter and David Farrar, has decided to fill an empty hole by >pretending to be far right economically, but libertarian as far as
being controversial - it enabled them to capture a lot of nutter votes
by saying anyone has a right to espouse nutter policies - what they
didn't tell them that ACT cannot support conflicting extremist
economic policies . . .
I have used nz.general as the vehicle to respond to you, and this is
the very essence of the hierarchy of thread illustrations by all
reputable usenet clients.
For you, I can also say that in a sense, every
poster is addressing remarks directly to you as well as others reading >>>the group;
Not true. See above. This is a figment of your imagination. Take a
look at most posts in all newsgroups.
as we know you read the posts of others, and what you may
not realise is that you often provide affirmation to others that their >>>views do have value, that discussion even with those who do not agree
can be worthwhile, and that we can be glad to be in a country where it
is possible to say things that others may not always agree with. Tour >>>posts do point out that we will not always see things the same way;
that we can strive to do better, and that we can be proud of the >>>opportunity to bring our personal views to a wide group of people. In >>>posting to nz.general, we know that you will be ready to contribute a >>>different and at times startling viewpoint; you will help many to
affirm that their own posts have worth and value, and not to dwell
too much on differences in opinions, even if we do not share them.
Irrelevant. See above.
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 20:34:11 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>That is just bullshit - you have made some stupid mistakes and now you argus that black is white.
wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 10:06:47 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:10:11 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz>
wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:It would be easy to say nz.general, Tony, but then I am sure you
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 05:43:03 GMT, Tony wrote:Who are you talking to?
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
🇳🇿 has joined 🇦🇺 and 🇨🇦 in telling 🇮🇱 that it >>>>>>>would
be like, a really
bad idea to extend their murderous rampage into Rafah, and could they, >>>>>>>like, please stop and not exterminate any more Palestinians, if they >>>>>>>would be so kind.
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/there-is-simply-nowhere-else-for-civilians-to-go-new-zealand-canada-australia-warn-israel-rafah-invasion-would-be-catastrophic/GNDNO654MND2PGITUC7KN4TTWY/>
Does anybody really expect Netanyahu and his fanatic cohort to pay any >>>>>>>attention?
Do they shite ...
[incoherent blather]
This may be a wild guess, but were you talking about the treatment >>>>>being meted out to the Houthis? You think maybe that would work here? >>>>>
A surgical strike, not on Netanyahu, but on either Smotrich or Ben >>>>>Gvir. Take out one of them, and maybe the rest will think twice about >>>>>trying to exterminate Palestinians and steal their land.
Worth a try?
already know that.
Incorrect Rich. There has never been any concept of replying to a >>newsgroup in general and this has been pointed many times with
archival reference to evidence in practice. Every response is to the >>previous poster. The newsgroup is the venue or vehicle, the response
is to an individual poster.
Of course people can write for the whole group - every "original
poster" does just that, and in many cases the second poster is not
directly responding tot he first post. The problem is that Tony just
hates free speech; he wants to create rules and restrictions - a
typical authoritarian far right thinker. But there is new for those
sorts - freedoms and the ability to speak your mind have long been
more acceptable to parties like the Green Party and Labour, but have
been unacceptable to the authoritarian right. Seymour, encouraged by
Jordan Carter and David Farrar, has decided to fill an empty hole by >pretending to be far right economically, but libertarian as far as
being controversial - it enabled them to capture a lot of nutter votes
by saying anyone has a right to espouse nutter policies - what they
didn't tell them that ACT cannot support conflicting extremist
economic policies . . .
I have used nz.general as the vehicle to respond to you, and this is
the very essence of the hierarchy of thread illustrations by all
reputable usenet clients.
For you, I can also say that in a sense, every
poster is addressing remarks directly to you as well as others reading >>>the group;
Not true. See above. This is a figment of your imagination. Take a
look at most posts in all newsgroups.
as we know you read the posts of others, and what you may
not realise is that you often provide affirmation to others that their >>>views do have value, that discussion even with those who do not agree
can be worthwhile, and that we can be glad to be in a country where it
is possible to say things that others may not always agree with. Tour >>>posts do point out that we will not always see things the same way;
that we can strive to do better, and that we can be proud of the >>>opportunity to bring our personal views to a wide group of people. In >>>posting to nz.general, we know that you will be ready to contribute a >>>different and at times startling viewpoint; you will help many to
affirm that their own posts have worth and value, and not to dwell
too much on differences in opinions, even if we do not share them.
Irrelevant. See above.
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 23:27:10 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 20:34:11 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 10:06:47 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:10:11 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz>
wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:It would be easy to say nz.general, Tony, but then I am sure you >>>>already know that.
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 05:43:03 GMT, Tony wrote:Who are you talking to?
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
🇳🇿 has joined 🇦🇺 and 🇨🇦 in telling 🇮🇱 that it would
be like, a really
bad idea to extend their murderous rampage into Rafah, and could they, >>>>>>>>like, please stop and not exterminate any more Palestinians, if they >>>>>>>>would be so kind.
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/there-is-simply-nowhere-else-for-civilians-to-go-new-zealand-canada-australia-warn-israel-rafah-invasion-would-be-catastrophic/GNDNO654MND2PGITUC7KN4TTWY/>
Does anybody really expect Netanyahu and his fanatic cohort to pay any >>>>>>>>attention?
Do they shite ...
[incoherent blather]
This may be a wild guess, but were you talking about the treatment >>>>>>being meted out to the Houthis? You think maybe that would work here? >>>>>>
A surgical strike, not on Netanyahu, but on either Smotrich or Ben >>>>>>Gvir. Take out one of them, and maybe the rest will think twice about >>>>>>trying to exterminate Palestinians and steal their land.
Worth a try?
Incorrect Rich. There has never been any concept of replying to a >>>newsgroup in general and this has been pointed many times with
archival reference to evidence in practice. Every response is to the >>>previous poster. The newsgroup is the venue or vehicle, the response
is to an individual poster.
Of course people can write for the whole group - every "original
poster" does just that, and in many cases the second poster is not
directly responding tot he first post.
Firstly Rich you do not appear to understand that my post above was
entirely about replies to a thread. Original posts were not the
subject of my comment. The second poster is always responding to the >original post - how on earth can it be any other way? You really are >displaying signs of irrational thought processes.
The problem is that Tony just
hates free speech; he wants to create rules and restrictions - a
typical authoritarian far right thinker. But there is new for those
sorts - freedoms and the ability to speak your mind have long been
more acceptable to parties like the Green Party and Labour, but have
been unacceptable to the authoritarian right. Seymour, encouraged by
Jordan Carter and David Farrar, has decided to fill an empty hole by >>pretending to be far right economically, but libertarian as far as
being controversial - it enabled them to capture a lot of nutter votes
by saying anyone has a right to espouse nutter policies - what they
didn't tell them that ACT cannot support conflicting extremist
economic policies . . .
I have used nz.general as the vehicle to respond to you, and this is
the very essence of the hierarchy of thread illustrations by all >>>reputable usenet clients.
For you, I can also say that in a sense, every
poster is addressing remarks directly to you as well as others reading >>>>the group;
Not true. See above. This is a figment of your imagination. Take a >>>look at most posts in all newsgroups.
as we know you read the posts of others, and what you may
not realise is that you often provide affirmation to others that their >>>>views do have value, that discussion even with those who do not agree >>>>can be worthwhile, and that we can be glad to be in a country where it >>>>is possible to say things that others may not always agree with. Tour >>>>posts do point out that we will not always see things the same way; >>>>that we can strive to do better, and that we can be proud of the >>>>opportunity to bring our personal views to a wide group of people. In >>>>posting to nz.general, we know that you will be ready to contribute a >>>>different and at times startling viewpoint; you will help many to >>>>affirm that their own posts have worth and value, and not to dwell
too much on differences in opinions, even if we do not share them.
Irrelevant. See above.
On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 09:01:39 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>Entirely off topic and entirely predictable.
wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 23:27:10 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 20:34:11 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 10:06:47 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:10:11 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> >>>>>wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:It would be easy to say nz.general, Tony, but then I am sure you >>>>>already know that.
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 05:43:03 GMT, Tony wrote:Who are you talking to?
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
🇳🇿 has joined 🇦🇺 and 🇨🇦 in telling 🇮🇱 that it >>>>>>>>>would
be like, a really
bad idea to extend their murderous rampage into Rafah, and could they, >>>>>>>>>like, please stop and not exterminate any more Palestinians, if they >>>>>>>>>would be so kind.
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/there-is-simply-nowhere-else-for-civilians-to-go-new-zealand-canada-australia-warn-israel-rafah-invasion-would-be-catastrophic/GNDNO654MND2PGITUC7KN4TTWY/>
Does anybody really expect Netanyahu and his fanatic cohort to pay any >>>>>>>>>attention?
Do they shite ...
[incoherent blather]
This may be a wild guess, but were you talking about the treatment >>>>>>>being meted out to the Houthis? You think maybe that would work here? >>>>>>>
A surgical strike, not on Netanyahu, but on either Smotrich or Ben >>>>>>>Gvir. Take out one of them, and maybe the rest will think twice about >>>>>>>trying to exterminate Palestinians and steal their land.
Worth a try?
Incorrect Rich. There has never been any concept of replying to a >>>>newsgroup in general and this has been pointed many times with
archival reference to evidence in practice. Every response is to the >>>>previous poster. The newsgroup is the venue or vehicle, the response >>>>is to an individual poster.
Of course people can write for the whole group - every "original
poster" does just that, and in many cases the second poster is not >>>directly responding tot he first post.
Firstly Rich you do not appear to understand that my post above was >>entirely about replies to a thread. Original posts were not the
subject of my comment. The second poster is always responding to the >>original post - how on earth can it be any other way? You really are >>displaying signs of irrational thought processes.
I apologise for the typo - I should have said ". . . and in many cases
the second poster is not directly responding to the first post." - and
of course there is one poster who has increased the frequency of
deleting parts or all of a post rather than addressing the issues
raised - both are ways of avoiding embarrassment and changing the
substance of the thread rather than responding to the original post
Even without deleting parts or all of a post, many do try to change
the subject, for various reasons.
The problem is that Tony just
hates free speech; he wants to create rules and restrictions - a
typical authoritarian far right thinker. But there is new for those
sorts - freedoms and the ability to speak your mind have long been
more acceptable to parties like the Green Party and Labour, but have
been unacceptable to the authoritarian right. Seymour, encouraged by >>>Jordan Carter and David Farrar, has decided to fill an empty hole by >>>pretending to be far right economically, but libertarian as far as
being controversial - it enabled them to capture a lot of nutter votes
by saying anyone has a right to espouse nutter policies - what they >>>didn't tell them that ACT cannot support conflicting extremist
economic policies . . .
I have used nz.general as the vehicle to respond to you, and this is >>>>the very essence of the hierarchy of thread illustrations by all >>>>reputable usenet clients.
For you, I can also say that in a sense, every
poster is addressing remarks directly to you as well as others reading >>>>>the group;
Not true. See above. This is a figment of your imagination. Take a >>>>look at most posts in all newsgroups.
as we know you read the posts of others, and what you may
not realise is that you often provide affirmation to others that their >>>>>views do have value, that discussion even with those who do not agree >>>>>can be worthwhile, and that we can be glad to be in a country where it >>>>>is possible to say things that others may not always agree with. Tour >>>>>posts do point out that we will not always see things the same way; >>>>>that we can strive to do better, and that we can be proud of the >>>>>opportunity to bring our personal views to a wide group of people. In >>>>>posting to nz.general, we know that you will be ready to contribute a >>>>>different and at times startling viewpoint; you will help many to >>>>>affirm that their own posts have worth and value, and not to dwell >>>>>too much on differences in opinions, even if we do not share them.
Irrelevant. See above.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 09:01:39 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:Entirely off topic and entirely predictable.
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 23:27:10 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 20:34:11 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 10:06:47 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:10:11 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> >>>>>>wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:It would be easy to say nz.general, Tony, but then I am sure you >>>>>>already know that.
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 05:43:03 GMT, Tony wrote:Who are you talking to?
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
🇳🇿 has joined 🇦🇺 and 🇨🇦 in telling 🇮🇱 that it >>>>>>>>>>would
be like, a really
bad idea to extend their murderous rampage into Rafah, and could they,
like, please stop and not exterminate any more Palestinians, if they >>>>>>>>>>would be so kind.
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/there-is-simply-nowhere-else-for-civilians-to-go-new-zealand-canada-australia-warn-israel-rafah-invasion-would-be-catastrophic/GNDNO654MND2PGITUC7KN4TTWY/>
Does anybody really expect Netanyahu and his fanatic cohort to pay any
attention?
Do they shite ...
[incoherent blather]
This may be a wild guess, but were you talking about the treatment >>>>>>>>being meted out to the Houthis? You think maybe that would work here? >>>>>>>>
A surgical strike, not on Netanyahu, but on either Smotrich or Ben >>>>>>>>Gvir. Take out one of them, and maybe the rest will think twice about >>>>>>>>trying to exterminate Palestinians and steal their land.
Worth a try?
Incorrect Rich. There has never been any concept of replying to a >>>>>newsgroup in general and this has been pointed many times with >>>>>archival reference to evidence in practice. Every response is to the >>>>>previous poster. The newsgroup is the venue or vehicle, the response >>>>>is to an individual poster.
Of course people can write for the whole group - every "original >>>>poster" does just that, and in many cases the second poster is not >>>>directly responding tot he first post.
Firstly Rich you do not appear to understand that my post above was >>>entirely about replies to a thread. Original posts were not the
subject of my comment. The second poster is always responding to the >>>original post - how on earth can it be any other way? You really are >>>displaying signs of irrational thought processes.
I apologise for the typo - I should have said ". . . and in many cases
the second poster is not directly responding to the first post." - and
of course there is one poster who has increased the frequency of
deleting parts or all of a post rather than addressing the issues
raised - both are ways of avoiding embarrassment and changing the
substance of the thread rather than responding to the original post
Even without deleting parts or all of a post, many do try to change
the subject, for various reasons.
The problem is that Tony just
hates free speech; he wants to create rules and restrictions - a >>>>typical authoritarian far right thinker. But there is new for those >>>>sorts - freedoms and the ability to speak your mind have long been
more acceptable to parties like the Green Party and Labour, but have >>>>been unacceptable to the authoritarian right. Seymour, encouraged by >>>>Jordan Carter and David Farrar, has decided to fill an empty hole by >>>>pretending to be far right economically, but libertarian as far as >>>>being controversial - it enabled them to capture a lot of nutter votes >>>>by saying anyone has a right to espouse nutter policies - what they >>>>didn't tell them that ACT cannot support conflicting extremist
economic policies . . .
I have used nz.general as the vehicle to respond to you, and this is >>>>>the very essence of the hierarchy of thread illustrations by all >>>>>reputable usenet clients.
For you, I can also say that in a sense, every
poster is addressing remarks directly to you as well as others reading >>>>>>the group;
Not true. See above. This is a figment of your imagination. Take a >>>>>look at most posts in all newsgroups.
as we know you read the posts of others, and what you may
not realise is that you often provide affirmation to others that their >>>>>>views do have value, that discussion even with those who do not agree >>>>>>can be worthwhile, and that we can be glad to be in a country where it >>>>>>is possible to say things that others may not always agree with. Tour >>>>>>posts do point out that we will not always see things the same way; >>>>>>that we can strive to do better, and that we can be proud of the >>>>>>opportunity to bring our personal views to a wide group of people. In >>>>>>posting to nz.general, we know that you will be ready to contribute a >>>>>>different and at times startling viewpoint; you will help many to >>>>>>affirm that their own posts have worth and value, and not to dwell >>>>>>too much on differences in opinions, even if we do not share them.
Irrelevant. See above.
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 23:52:30 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz>Which you did, not me.
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 09:01:39 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:Entirely off topic and entirely predictable.
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 23:27:10 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 20:34:11 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 10:06:47 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:10:11 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> >>>>>>>wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:It would be easy to say nz.general, Tony, but then I am sure you >>>>>>>already know that.
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 05:43:03 GMT, Tony wrote:Who are you talking to?
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
🇳🇿 has joined 🇦🇺 and 🇨🇦 in telling 🇮🇱 that >>>>>>>>>>>it
would
be like, a really
bad idea to extend their murderous rampage into Rafah, and could >>>>>>>>>>>they,
like, please stop and not exterminate any more Palestinians, if they >>>>>>>>>>>would be so kind.
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/there-is-simply-nowhere-else-for-civilians-to-go-new-zealand-canada-australia-warn-israel-rafah-invasion-would-be-catastrophic/GNDNO654MND2PGITUC7KN4TTWY/>
Does anybody really expect Netanyahu and his fanatic cohort to pay >>>>>>>>>>>any
attention?
Do they shite ...
[incoherent blather]
This may be a wild guess, but were you talking about the treatment >>>>>>>>>being meted out to the Houthis? You think maybe that would work here? >>>>>>>>>
A surgical strike, not on Netanyahu, but on either Smotrich or Ben >>>>>>>>>Gvir. Take out one of them, and maybe the rest will think twice about >>>>>>>>>trying to exterminate Palestinians and steal their land.
Worth a try?
Incorrect Rich. There has never been any concept of replying to a >>>>>>newsgroup in general and this has been pointed many times with >>>>>>archival reference to evidence in practice. Every response is to the >>>>>>previous poster. The newsgroup is the venue or vehicle, the response >>>>>>is to an individual poster.
Of course people can write for the whole group - every "original >>>>>poster" does just that, and in many cases the second poster is not >>>>>directly responding tot he first post.
Firstly Rich you do not appear to understand that my post above was >>>>entirely about replies to a thread. Original posts were not the >>>>subject of my comment. The second poster is always responding to the >>>>original post - how on earth can it be any other way? You really are >>>>displaying signs of irrational thought processes.
I apologise for the typo - I should have said ". . . and in many cases >>>the second poster is not directly responding to the first post." - and
of course there is one poster who has increased the frequency of
deleting parts or all of a post rather than addressing the issues
raised - both are ways of avoiding embarrassment and changing the >>>substance of the thread rather than responding to the original post
Even without deleting parts or all of a post, many do try to change
the subject, for various reasons.
The problem is that Tony just
hates free speech; he wants to create rules and restrictions - a >>>>>typical authoritarian far right thinker. But there is new for those >>>>>sorts - freedoms and the ability to speak your mind have long been >>>>>more acceptable to parties like the Green Party and Labour, but have >>>>>been unacceptable to the authoritarian right. Seymour, encouraged by >>>>>Jordan Carter and David Farrar, has decided to fill an empty hole by >>>>>pretending to be far right economically, but libertarian as far as >>>>>being controversial - it enabled them to capture a lot of nutter votes >>>>>by saying anyone has a right to espouse nutter policies - what they >>>>>didn't tell them that ACT cannot support conflicting extremist >>>>>economic policies . . .
I have used nz.general as the vehicle to respond to you, and this is >>>>>>the very essence of the hierarchy of thread illustrations by all >>>>>>reputable usenet clients.
For you, I can also say that in a sense, every
poster is addressing remarks directly to you as well as others reading >>>>>>>the group;
Not true. See above. This is a figment of your imagination. Take a >>>>>>look at most posts in all newsgroups.
as we know you read the posts of others, and what you mayIrrelevant. See above.
not realise is that you often provide affirmation to others that their >>>>>>>views do have value, that discussion even with those who do not agree >>>>>>>can be worthwhile, and that we can be glad to be in a country where it >>>>>>>is possible to say things that others may not always agree with. Tour >>>>>>>posts do point out that we will not always see things the same way; >>>>>>>that we can strive to do better, and that we can be proud of the >>>>>>>opportunity to bring our personal views to a wide group of people. In >>>>>>>posting to nz.general, we know that you will be ready to contribute a >>>>>>>different and at times startling viewpoint; you will help many to >>>>>>>affirm that their own posts have worth and value, and not to dwell >>>>>>>too much on differences in opinions, even if we do not share them. >>>>>>
Now having distracted away from the subject of the thread
, perhaps weThat is total shite, just like you.
could all return to the wimpy "tut tut" that our government gave for >continued killing of non-combatants by Israeli troops in Rafah. I
accept that the priority of the government is to reward political
donors (and at the same time punish the poor) but as a country New
Zealand has been regarded as speaking strongly for peace and for
condemnation of unnecessary violence. Indiscriminate killing of
civilians is unacceptable regardless of who does it - but the response
from the government merely indicates that they see themselves as a US
puppet.
On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 02:15:43 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz>Rich - they know what you are and what you deserve so you can forget your infantile holier-than-thou garbage. You are a lying, abusive, coward. Period.
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Readers of nz.general should take note that Tony more than once
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 23:52:30 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz>Which you did, not me.
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 09:01:39 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>wrote:Entirely off topic and entirely predictable.
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 23:27:10 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 20:34:11 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>>wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 10:06:47 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:10:11 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> >>>>>>>>>wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:It would be easy to say nz.general, Tony, but then I am sure you >>>>>>>>>already know that.
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 05:43:03 GMT, Tony wrote:Who are you talking to?
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
🇳🇿 has joined 🇦🇺 and 🇨🇦 in telling 🇮🇱 that >>>>>>>>>>>>>it
would
be like, a really
bad idea to extend their murderous rampage into Rafah, and could >>>>>>>>>>>>>they,
like, please stop and not exterminate any more Palestinians, if >>>>>>>>>>>>>they
would be so kind.
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/there-is-simply-nowhere-else-for-civilians-to-go-new-zealand-canada-australia-warn-israel-rafah-invasion-would-be-catastrophic/GNDNO654MND2PGITUC7KN4TTWY/>
Does anybody really expect Netanyahu and his fanatic cohort to pay >>>>>>>>>>>>>any
attention?
Do they shite ...
[incoherent blather]
This may be a wild guess, but were you talking about the treatment >>>>>>>>>>>being meted out to the Houthis? You think maybe that would work here?
A surgical strike, not on Netanyahu, but on either Smotrich or Ben >>>>>>>>>>>Gvir. Take out one of them, and maybe the rest will think twice about
trying to exterminate Palestinians and steal their land.
Worth a try?
Incorrect Rich. There has never been any concept of replying to a >>>>>>>>newsgroup in general and this has been pointed many times with >>>>>>>>archival reference to evidence in practice. Every response is to the >>>>>>>>previous poster. The newsgroup is the venue or vehicle, the response >>>>>>>>is to an individual poster.
Of course people can write for the whole group - every "original >>>>>>>poster" does just that, and in many cases the second poster is not >>>>>>>directly responding tot he first post.
Firstly Rich you do not appear to understand that my post above was >>>>>>entirely about replies to a thread. Original posts were not the >>>>>>subject of my comment. The second poster is always responding to the >>>>>>original post - how on earth can it be any other way? You really are >>>>>>displaying signs of irrational thought processes.
I apologise for the typo - I should have said ". . . and in many cases >>>>>the second poster is not directly responding to the first post." - and >>>>>of course there is one poster who has increased the frequency of >>>>>deleting parts or all of a post rather than addressing the issues >>>>>raised - both are ways of avoiding embarrassment and changing the >>>>>substance of the thread rather than responding to the original post >>>>>Even without deleting parts or all of a post, many do try to change >>>>>the subject, for various reasons.
The problem is that Tony just
hates free speech; he wants to create rules and restrictions - a >>>>>>>typical authoritarian far right thinker. But there is new for those >>>>>>>sorts - freedoms and the ability to speak your mind have long been >>>>>>>more acceptable to parties like the Green Party and Labour, but have >>>>>>>been unacceptable to the authoritarian right. Seymour, encouraged by >>>>>>>Jordan Carter and David Farrar, has decided to fill an empty hole by >>>>>>>pretending to be far right economically, but libertarian as far as >>>>>>>being controversial - it enabled them to capture a lot of nutter votes >>>>>>>by saying anyone has a right to espouse nutter policies - what they >>>>>>>didn't tell them that ACT cannot support conflicting extremist >>>>>>>economic policies . . .
I have used nz.general as the vehicle to respond to you, and this is >>>>>>>>the very essence of the hierarchy of thread illustrations by all >>>>>>>>reputable usenet clients.
For you, I can also say that in a sense, every
poster is addressing remarks directly to you as well as others reading >>>>>>>>>the group;
Not true. See above. This is a figment of your imagination. Take a >>>>>>>>look at most posts in all newsgroups.
as we know you read the posts of others, and what you mayIrrelevant. See above.
not realise is that you often provide affirmation to others that their >>>>>>>>>views do have value, that discussion even with those who do not agree >>>>>>>>>can be worthwhile, and that we can be glad to be in a country where it >>>>>>>>>is possible to say things that others may not always agree with. Tour >>>>>>>>>posts do point out that we will not always see things the same way; >>>>>>>>>that we can strive to do better, and that we can be proud of the >>>>>>>>>opportunity to bring our personal views to a wide group of people. In >>>>>>>>>posting to nz.general, we know that you will be ready to contribute a >>>>>>>>>different and at times startling viewpoint; you will help many to >>>>>>>>>affirm that their own posts have worth and value, and not to dwell >>>>>>>>>too much on differences in opinions, even if we do not share them. >>>>>>>>
Now having distracted away from the subject of the thread
, perhaps weThat is total shite, just like you.
could all return to the wimpy "tut tut" that our government gave for >>>continued killing of non-combatants by Israeli troops in Rafah. I
accept that the priority of the government is to reward political
donors (and at the same time punish the poor) but as a country New >>>Zealand has been regarded as speaking strongly for peace and for >>>condemnation of unnecessary violence. Indiscriminate killing of
civilians is unacceptable regardless of who does it - but the response >>>from the government merely indicates that they see themselves as a US >>>puppet.
changed the record of previous posts by another poster to
substantially change the meaning, and also often deletes posts that he >disagrees with.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Readers of nz.general should take note that Tony more than once
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 23:52:30 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz>Which you did, not me.
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 09:01:39 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>wrote:Entirely off topic and entirely predictable.
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 23:27:10 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 20:34:11 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 10:06:47 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:10:11 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> >>>>>>>>wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:It would be easy to say nz.general, Tony, but then I am sure you >>>>>>>>already know that.
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 05:43:03 GMT, Tony wrote:Who are you talking to?
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
🇳🇿 has joined 🇦🇺 and 🇨🇦 in telling 🇮🇱 that >>>>>>>>>>>>it
would
be like, a really
bad idea to extend their murderous rampage into Rafah, and could >>>>>>>>>>>>they,
like, please stop and not exterminate any more Palestinians, if they
would be so kind.
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/there-is-simply-nowhere-else-for-civilians-to-go-new-zealand-canada-australia-warn-israel-rafah-invasion-would-be-catastrophic/GNDNO654MND2PGITUC7KN4TTWY/>
Does anybody really expect Netanyahu and his fanatic cohort to pay >>>>>>>>>>>>any
attention?
Do they shite ...
[incoherent blather]
This may be a wild guess, but were you talking about the treatment >>>>>>>>>>being meted out to the Houthis? You think maybe that would work here? >>>>>>>>>>
A surgical strike, not on Netanyahu, but on either Smotrich or Ben >>>>>>>>>>Gvir. Take out one of them, and maybe the rest will think twice about >>>>>>>>>>trying to exterminate Palestinians and steal their land.
Worth a try?
Incorrect Rich. There has never been any concept of replying to a >>>>>>>newsgroup in general and this has been pointed many times with >>>>>>>archival reference to evidence in practice. Every response is to the >>>>>>>previous poster. The newsgroup is the venue or vehicle, the response >>>>>>>is to an individual poster.
Of course people can write for the whole group - every "original >>>>>>poster" does just that, and in many cases the second poster is not >>>>>>directly responding tot he first post.
Firstly Rich you do not appear to understand that my post above was >>>>>entirely about replies to a thread. Original posts were not the >>>>>subject of my comment. The second poster is always responding to the >>>>>original post - how on earth can it be any other way? You really are >>>>>displaying signs of irrational thought processes.
I apologise for the typo - I should have said ". . . and in many cases >>>>the second poster is not directly responding to the first post." - and >>>>of course there is one poster who has increased the frequency of >>>>deleting parts or all of a post rather than addressing the issues >>>>raised - both are ways of avoiding embarrassment and changing the >>>>substance of the thread rather than responding to the original post >>>>Even without deleting parts or all of a post, many do try to change
the subject, for various reasons.
The problem is that Tony just
hates free speech; he wants to create rules and restrictions - a >>>>>>typical authoritarian far right thinker. But there is new for those >>>>>>sorts - freedoms and the ability to speak your mind have long been >>>>>>more acceptable to parties like the Green Party and Labour, but have >>>>>>been unacceptable to the authoritarian right. Seymour, encouraged by >>>>>>Jordan Carter and David Farrar, has decided to fill an empty hole by >>>>>>pretending to be far right economically, but libertarian as far as >>>>>>being controversial - it enabled them to capture a lot of nutter votes >>>>>>by saying anyone has a right to espouse nutter policies - what they >>>>>>didn't tell them that ACT cannot support conflicting extremist >>>>>>economic policies . . .
I have used nz.general as the vehicle to respond to you, and this is >>>>>>>the very essence of the hierarchy of thread illustrations by all >>>>>>>reputable usenet clients.
For you, I can also say that in a sense, every
poster is addressing remarks directly to you as well as others reading >>>>>>>>the group;
Not true. See above. This is a figment of your imagination. Take a >>>>>>>look at most posts in all newsgroups.
as we know you read the posts of others, and what you mayIrrelevant. See above.
not realise is that you often provide affirmation to others that their >>>>>>>>views do have value, that discussion even with those who do not agree >>>>>>>>can be worthwhile, and that we can be glad to be in a country where it >>>>>>>>is possible to say things that others may not always agree with. Tour >>>>>>>>posts do point out that we will not always see things the same way; >>>>>>>>that we can strive to do better, and that we can be proud of the >>>>>>>>opportunity to bring our personal views to a wide group of people. In >>>>>>>>posting to nz.general, we know that you will be ready to contribute a >>>>>>>>different and at times startling viewpoint; you will help many to >>>>>>>>affirm that their own posts have worth and value, and not to dwell >>>>>>>>too much on differences in opinions, even if we do not share them. >>>>>>>
Now having distracted away from the subject of the thread
, perhaps weThat is total shite, just like you.
could all return to the wimpy "tut tut" that our government gave for >>continued killing of non-combatants by Israeli troops in Rafah. I
accept that the priority of the government is to reward political
donors (and at the same time punish the poor) but as a country New
Zealand has been regarded as speaking strongly for peace and for >>condemnation of unnecessary violence. Indiscriminate killing of
civilians is unacceptable regardless of who does it - but the response
from the government merely indicates that they see themselves as a US >>puppet.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:changed the record of previous posts by another poster to
On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 02:15:43 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz>Rich - they know what you are and what you deserve so you can forget your >infantile holier-than-thou garbage. You are a lying, abusive, coward. Period. Readers of nz.general should take note that Tony more than once
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Readers of nz.general should take note that Tony more than once
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 23:52:30 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz>Which you did, not me.
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 09:01:39 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>wrote:Entirely off topic and entirely predictable.
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 23:27:10 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 20:34:11 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>>>wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 10:06:47 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:10:11 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> >>>>>>>>>>wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:It would be easy to say nz.general, Tony, but then I am sure you >>>>>>>>>>already know that.
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 05:43:03 GMT, Tony wrote:Who are you talking to?
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
🇳🇿 has joined 🇦🇺 and 🇨🇦 in telling 🇮🇱 that
it
would
be like, a really
bad idea to extend their murderous rampage into Rafah, and could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>they,
like, please stop and not exterminate any more Palestinians, if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>they
would be so kind.
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/there-is-simply-nowhere-else-for-civilians-to-go-new-zealand-canada-australia-warn-israel-rafah-invasion-would-be-catastrophic/GNDNO654MND2PGITUC7KN4TTWY/>
Does anybody really expect Netanyahu and his fanatic cohort to pay
any
attention?
Do they shite ...
[incoherent blather]
This may be a wild guess, but were you talking about the treatment >>>>>>>>>>>>being meted out to the Houthis? You think maybe that would work here?
A surgical strike, not on Netanyahu, but on either Smotrich or Ben >>>>>>>>>>>>Gvir. Take out one of them, and maybe the rest will think twice about
trying to exterminate Palestinians and steal their land. >>>>>>>>>>>>
Worth a try?
Incorrect Rich. There has never been any concept of replying to a >>>>>>>>>newsgroup in general and this has been pointed many times with >>>>>>>>>archival reference to evidence in practice. Every response is to the >>>>>>>>>previous poster. The newsgroup is the venue or vehicle, the response >>>>>>>>>is to an individual poster.
Of course people can write for the whole group - every "original >>>>>>>>poster" does just that, and in many cases the second poster is not >>>>>>>>directly responding tot he first post.
Firstly Rich you do not appear to understand that my post above was >>>>>>>entirely about replies to a thread. Original posts were not the >>>>>>>subject of my comment. The second poster is always responding to the >>>>>>>original post - how on earth can it be any other way? You really are >>>>>>>displaying signs of irrational thought processes.
I apologise for the typo - I should have said ". . . and in many cases >>>>>>the second poster is not directly responding to the first post." - and >>>>>>of course there is one poster who has increased the frequency of >>>>>>deleting parts or all of a post rather than addressing the issues >>>>>>raised - both are ways of avoiding embarrassment and changing the >>>>>>substance of the thread rather than responding to the original post >>>>>>Even without deleting parts or all of a post, many do try to change >>>>>>the subject, for various reasons.
The problem is that Tony just
hates free speech; he wants to create rules and restrictions - a >>>>>>>>typical authoritarian far right thinker. But there is new for those >>>>>>>>sorts - freedoms and the ability to speak your mind have long been >>>>>>>>more acceptable to parties like the Green Party and Labour, but have >>>>>>>>been unacceptable to the authoritarian right. Seymour, encouraged by >>>>>>>>Jordan Carter and David Farrar, has decided to fill an empty hole by >>>>>>>>pretending to be far right economically, but libertarian as far as >>>>>>>>being controversial - it enabled them to capture a lot of nutter votes >>>>>>>>by saying anyone has a right to espouse nutter policies - what they >>>>>>>>didn't tell them that ACT cannot support conflicting extremist >>>>>>>>economic policies . . .
I have used nz.general as the vehicle to respond to you, and this is >>>>>>>>>the very essence of the hierarchy of thread illustrations by all >>>>>>>>>reputable usenet clients.
For you, I can also say that in a sense, every
poster is addressing remarks directly to you as well as others reading
the group;
Not true. See above. This is a figment of your imagination. Take a >>>>>>>>>look at most posts in all newsgroups.
as we know you read the posts of others, and what you may >>>>>>>>>>not realise is that you often provide affirmation to others that theirIrrelevant. See above.
views do have value, that discussion even with those who do not agree >>>>>>>>>>can be worthwhile, and that we can be glad to be in a country where it
is possible to say things that others may not always agree with. Tour >>>>>>>>>>posts do point out that we will not always see things the same way; >>>>>>>>>>that we can strive to do better, and that we can be proud of the >>>>>>>>>>opportunity to bring our personal views to a wide group of people. In >>>>>>>>>>posting to nz.general, we know that you will be ready to contribute a >>>>>>>>>>different and at times startling viewpoint; you will help many to >>>>>>>>>>affirm that their own posts have worth and value, and not to dwell >>>>>>>>>>too much on differences in opinions, even if we do not share them. >>>>>>>>>
Now having distracted away from the subject of the thread
, perhaps weThat is total shite, just like you.
could all return to the wimpy "tut tut" that our government gave for >>>>continued killing of non-combatants by Israeli troops in Rafah. I >>>>accept that the priority of the government is to reward political >>>>donors (and at the same time punish the poor) but as a country New >>>>Zealand has been regarded as speaking strongly for peace and for >>>>condemnation of unnecessary violence. Indiscriminate killing of >>>>civilians is unacceptable regardless of who does it - but the response >>>>from the government merely indicates that they see themselves as a US >>>>puppet.
changed the record of previous posts by another poster to
substantially change the meaning, and also often deletes posts that he >>disagrees with.
On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 08:05:13 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz>Rich - they know what you are and what you deserve so you can forget your infantile holier-than-thou garbage. You are a lying, abusive, coward. Period.
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:changed the record of previous posts by another poster to
On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 02:15:43 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz>Rich - they know what you are and what you deserve so you can forget your >>infantile holier-than-thou garbage. You are a lying, abusive, coward. Period. >Readers of nz.general should take note that Tony more than once
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Readers of nz.general should take note that Tony more than once
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 23:52:30 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> >>>>>wrote:Which you did, not me.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 09:01:39 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>>wrote:Entirely off topic and entirely predictable.
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 23:27:10 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 20:34:11 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>>>>wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 10:06:47 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:10:11 GMT, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> >>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:It would be easy to say nz.general, Tony, but then I am sure you >>>>>>>>>>>already know that.
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 05:43:03 GMT, Tony wrote:Who are you talking to?
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
🇳🇿 has joined 🇦🇺 and 🇨🇦 in telling 🇮🇱 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that
it
would
be like, a really
bad idea to extend their murderous rampage into Rafah, and could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>they,
like, please stop and not exterminate any more Palestinians, if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>they
would be so kind.
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/there-is-simply-nowhere-else-for-civilians-to-go-new-zealand-canada-australia-warn-israel-rafah-invasion-would-be-catastrophic/GNDNO654MND2PGITUC7KN4TTWY/>
Does anybody really expect Netanyahu and his fanatic cohort to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pay
any
attention?
Do they shite ...
[incoherent blather]
This may be a wild guess, but were you talking about the treatment >>>>>>>>>>>>>being meted out to the Houthis? You think maybe that would work >>>>>>>>>>>>>here?
A surgical strike, not on Netanyahu, but on either Smotrich or Ben >>>>>>>>>>>>>Gvir. Take out one of them, and maybe the rest will think twice >>>>>>>>>>>>>about
trying to exterminate Palestinians and steal their land. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Worth a try?
Incorrect Rich. There has never been any concept of replying to a >>>>>>>>>>newsgroup in general and this has been pointed many times with >>>>>>>>>>archival reference to evidence in practice. Every response is to the >>>>>>>>>>previous poster. The newsgroup is the venue or vehicle, the response >>>>>>>>>>is to an individual poster.
Of course people can write for the whole group - every "original >>>>>>>>>poster" does just that, and in many cases the second poster is not >>>>>>>>>directly responding tot he first post.
Firstly Rich you do not appear to understand that my post above was >>>>>>>>entirely about replies to a thread. Original posts were not the >>>>>>>>subject of my comment. The second poster is always responding to the >>>>>>>>original post - how on earth can it be any other way? You really are >>>>>>>>displaying signs of irrational thought processes.
I apologise for the typo - I should have said ". . . and in many cases >>>>>>>the second poster is not directly responding to the first post." - and >>>>>>>of course there is one poster who has increased the frequency of >>>>>>>deleting parts or all of a post rather than addressing the issues >>>>>>>raised - both are ways of avoiding embarrassment and changing the >>>>>>>substance of the thread rather than responding to the original post >>>>>>>Even without deleting parts or all of a post, many do try to change >>>>>>>the subject, for various reasons.
The problem is that Tony just
hates free speech; he wants to create rules and restrictions - a >>>>>>>>>typical authoritarian far right thinker. But there is new for those >>>>>>>>>sorts - freedoms and the ability to speak your mind have long been >>>>>>>>>more acceptable to parties like the Green Party and Labour, but have >>>>>>>>>been unacceptable to the authoritarian right. Seymour, encouraged by >>>>>>>>>Jordan Carter and David Farrar, has decided to fill an empty hole by >>>>>>>>>pretending to be far right economically, but libertarian as far as >>>>>>>>>being controversial - it enabled them to capture a lot of nutter votes >>>>>>>>>by saying anyone has a right to espouse nutter policies - what they >>>>>>>>>didn't tell them that ACT cannot support conflicting extremist >>>>>>>>>economic policies . . .
I have used nz.general as the vehicle to respond to you, and this is >>>>>>>>>>the very essence of the hierarchy of thread illustrations by all >>>>>>>>>>reputable usenet clients.
For you, I can also say that in a sense, every
poster is addressing remarks directly to you as well as others >>>>>>>>>>>reading
the group;
Not true. See above. This is a figment of your imagination. Take a >>>>>>>>>>look at most posts in all newsgroups.
as we know you read the posts of others, and what you may >>>>>>>>>>>not realise is that you often provide affirmation to others that >>>>>>>>>>>theirIrrelevant. See above.
views do have value, that discussion even with those who do not agree
can be worthwhile, and that we can be glad to be in a country where >>>>>>>>>>>it
is possible to say things that others may not always agree with. Tour
posts do point out that we will not always see things the same way; >>>>>>>>>>>that we can strive to do better, and that we can be proud of the >>>>>>>>>>>opportunity to bring our personal views to a wide group of people. In
posting to nz.general, we know that you will be ready to contribute a
different and at times startling viewpoint; you will help many to >>>>>>>>>>>affirm that their own posts have worth and value, and not to dwell >>>>>>>>>>>too much on differences in opinions, even if we do not share them. >>>>>>>>>>
Now having distracted away from the subject of the thread
, perhaps weThat is total shite, just like you.
could all return to the wimpy "tut tut" that our government gave for >>>>>continued killing of non-combatants by Israeli troops in Rafah. I >>>>>accept that the priority of the government is to reward political >>>>>donors (and at the same time punish the poor) but as a country New >>>>>Zealand has been regarded as speaking strongly for peace and for >>>>>condemnation of unnecessary violence. Indiscriminate killing of >>>>>civilians is unacceptable regardless of who does it - but the response >>>>>from the government merely indicates that they see themselves as a US >>>>>puppet.
changed the record of previous posts by another poster to
substantially change the meaning, and also often deletes posts that he >>>disagrees with.
substantially change the meaning, and also often deletes posts that he >disagrees with.
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