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    From Tony@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 12 00:05:37 2024
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFAtqWOaEgg
    It would be funny if it was not so serious for those poor folks who have been taken in by the greed of Tesla and other manufacturers.
    Everybody with a small amount of technical knowledge knows that cold affects the abilty of batteries to charge and hold their charge. It is extremely old knowledge.

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  • From Willy Nilly@21:1/5 to Tony on Mon Feb 12 01:05:31 2024
    XPost: nz.politics

    On Mon, 12 Feb 2024, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFAtqWOaEgg
    It would be funny if it was not so serious for those poor folks who have been >taken in by the greed of Tesla and other manufacturers.

    But it is government subsidies which makes it all happen. Stop the
    subsidies, then EV & windmill & solar business falls off the cliff.

    Snake oil salesmen are all over whatever the government subsidises.
    Point the finger fairly.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to Willy Nilly on Mon Feb 12 15:45:07 2024
    On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 01:05:31 GMT, wn@qwert.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:

    On Mon, 12 Feb 2024, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote: >>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFAtqWOaEgg
    It would be funny if it was not so serious for those poor folks who have been >>taken in by the greed of Tesla and other manufacturers.

    But it is government subsidies which makes it all happen. Stop the >subsidies, then EV & windmill & solar business falls off the cliff.

    Snake oil salesmen are all over whatever the government subsidises.
    Point the finger fairly.

    Do you believe that is why the government is making some electric and
    hybrid cars pay more than the equivalent petrol car in taxes to pay
    for roads? Do you think that is fair?

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Tony on Mon Feb 12 04:07:38 2024
    XPost: nz.politics

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    On 2024-02-12, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFAtqWOaEgg
    It would be funny if it was not so serious for those poor folks who have been taken in by the greed of Tesla and other manufacturers.
    Everybody with a small amount of technical knowledge knows that cold affects the abilty of batteries to charge and hold their charge. It is extremely old knowledge.

    I see this as We do not need to mention this as no one is asking as the EV owners are so happy with their EV.

    The folks in Norway have taken some EV on a mid winter trip and seen what
    the real world ranges are.

    Geoff buys cars on you tube has promised us, the viewers his take on it. He
    is on holiday at present.

    Also to be fair -40 degrees temp is some what rare. (extreme)

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Mon Feb 12 03:59:15 2024
    On 2024-02-12, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 01:05:31 GMT, wn@qwert.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:

    On Mon, 12 Feb 2024, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote: >>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFAtqWOaEgg
    It would be funny if it was not so serious for those poor folks who have been
    taken in by the greed of Tesla and other manufacturers.

    But it is government subsidies which makes it all happen. Stop the >>subsidies, then EV & windmill & solar business falls off the cliff.

    Snake oil salesmen are all over whatever the government subsidises.
    Point the finger fairly.

    Do you believe that is why the government is making some electric and
    hybrid cars pay more than the equivalent petrol car in taxes to pay
    for roads? Do you think that is fair?

    That is not what Willy was saying.

    The Road user charges have been "messed up" with the EV hybrid vehicles
    rolling on the roads. Yes it needs to be sorted. The Minister acknowledges
    the problem. They are working on it.

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