• The Anglish Linguage

    From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 11 01:40:27 2024
    How would English sound if you restricted yourself to words that came only
    from its original Germanic roots? This short clip <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIo-17SIkws> looks at some examples. It
    also mentions Poul Anderson’s essay “Uncleftish Beholding”, which is a description of atomic theory written in such an “Anglish” vocabulary.
    Quite a fun read. What’s he talking about here?

    At first it was thought that the uncleft was a hard thing that
    could be split no further; hence the name. Now we know it is made
    up of lesser motes. There is a heavy *kernel* with a forward
    bernstonish lading, and around it one or more light motes with
    backward ladings. The least uncleft is that of ordinary
    waterstuff. Its kernel is a lone forwardladen mote called a
    *firstbit*. Outside it is a backwardladen mote called a
    *bernstonebit*. The firstbit has a heaviness about 1840-fold that
    of the bernstonebit. Early worldken folk thought bernstonebits
    swing around the kernel like the earth around the sun, but now we
    understand they are more like waves or clouds.

    (Hint: I think “bernstone” means “amber”).

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  • From Willy Nilly@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Sun Feb 11 04:24:05 2024
    On Sun, 11 Feb 2024, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    How would English sound if you restricted yourself to words that came only >from its original Germanic roots?

    Well of course the language evolves to encompass new technology &
    science, so if you take away all those new words, then you'll have
    trouble. Also few people appreciate how much English & French were
    engineered in the 18th & 19th centuries by language leaders whose
    top-down changes were delivered onwards by the schools.

    Quite a fun read. What’s he talking about here?

    At first it was thought that the uncleft was a hard thing that
    could be split no further; hence the name.

    uncleft = atom

    Now we know it is made up of lesser motes.

    motes = particles

    There is a heavy *kernel*
    NUCLEUS
    with a forward bernstonish lading,
    POSITIVE CHARGE
    and around it one or more light motes with backward ladings.
    PARTICLES WITH NEGATIVE CHARGE

    (The irony is "positive" and "negative" should have been the other way
    around -- the "negative" delivers and the "positive" receives. But
    the early researchers had a 50-50 guess as to which way it went -- and
    guessed wrong.

    The least uncleft is that of ordinary waterstuff.
    THE SMALLEST ATOM IS HYDROGEN
    Its kernel is a lone forwardladen mote called a *firstbit*.
    ITS NUCLEUS IS A LONE POSITIVE-CHARGED PROTON
    Outside it is a backwardladen mote called a *bernstonebit*.
    AROUND IS A NEGATIVE-CHARGED ELECTRON
    The firstbit has a heaviness about 1840-fold that of the bernstonebit.
    THE PROTON HAS 1840x THE MASS OF THE ELECTRON
    Early worldken folk thought bernstonebits
    swing around the kernel like the earth around the sun, but now we
    understand they are more like waves or clouds.
    EARLY THOUGHT WAS THAT THE ELECTRONS ORBITED THE NUCLEUS, BUT NOW WE
    KNOW THEY ARE CLOSED-VIBRATION SYSTEMS.

    Thanks for the diversion.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to Willy Nilly on Sun Feb 11 21:11:40 2024
    On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 04:24:05 GMT, wn@qwert.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:

    On Sun, 11 Feb 2024, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    How would English sound if you restricted yourself to words that came only >>from its original Germanic roots?

    Well of course the language evolves to encompass new technology &
    science, so if you take away all those new words, then you'll have
    trouble. Also few people appreciate how much English & French were >engineered in the 18th & 19th centuries by language leaders whose
    top-down changes were delivered onwards by the schools.

    Quite a fun read. What’s he talking about here?

    At first it was thought that the uncleft was a hard thing that
    could be split no further; hence the name.

    uncleft = atom

    Now we know it is made up of lesser motes.

    motes = particles

    There is a heavy *kernel*
    NUCLEUS
    with a forward bernstonish lading,
    POSITIVE CHARGE
    and around it one or more light motes with backward ladings.
    PARTICLES WITH NEGATIVE CHARGE

    (The irony is "positive" and "negative" should have been the other way
    around -- the "negative" delivers and the "positive" receives. But
    the early researchers had a 50-50 guess as to which way it went -- and >guessed wrong.

    The least uncleft is that of ordinary waterstuff.
    THE SMALLEST ATOM IS HYDROGEN
    Its kernel is a lone forwardladen mote called a *firstbit*.
    ITS NUCLEUS IS A LONE POSITIVE-CHARGED PROTON
    Outside it is a backwardladen mote called a *bernstonebit*.
    AROUND IS A NEGATIVE-CHARGED ELECTRON
    The firstbit has a heaviness about 1840-fold that of the bernstonebit.
    THE PROTON HAS 1840x THE MASS OF THE ELECTRON
    Early worldken folk thought bernstonebits
    swing around the kernel like the earth around the sun, but now we
    understand they are more like waves or clouds.
    EARLY THOUGHT WAS THAT THE ELECTRONS ORBITED THE NUCLEUS, BUT NOW WE
    KNOW THEY ARE CLOSED-VIBRATION SYSTEMS.

    Thanks for the diversion.

    And thanks for your translations! Cheers!

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