On 2024-02-05, Aristotle_the_3rd <aristotle@wisegreeks.com> wrote:

https://thebfd.co.nz/2024/02/05/right-back-at-ya/
I wish we could fire all of our pollies and star from scratch but who
would we get.
Just more thieves and vagabonds.

In general the people who want to stand for Government should not be
allowed to do so.

MP selection by ballot is my solution. Do a term or two and then exit.
Similar to Jury duty. Maybe not a good solution by worth a try.

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https://thebfd.co.nz/2024/02/05/right-back-at-ya/
I wish we could fire all of our pollies and star from scratch but who
would we get.
Just more thieves and vagabonds.

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On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 09:15:40 +1300, Aristotle_the_3rd wrote:

I wish we could fire all of our pollies and star from scratch but who
would we get.

Why not form a new fire-all-of-our-pollies-and-star[t]-from-scratch party,
and see if you can get a lot of votes.

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Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 09:15:40 +1300, Aristotle_the_3rd wrote:

I wish we could fire all of our pollies and star from scratch but who
would we get.

Why not form a new fire-all-of-our-pollies-and-star[t]-from-scratch party, >and see if you can get a lot of votes.

Wow, how droll!

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Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 01:58:48 GMT, Tony wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 00:47:40 GMT, Tony wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 09:15:40 +1300, Aristotle_the_3rd wrote:

I wish we could fire all of our pollies and star from scratch but
who would we get.

Why not form a new fire-all-of-our-pollies-and-star[t]-from-scratch >>>>>party, and see if you can get a lot of votes.

Wow, how droll!

Aren’t you glad to live in such a democratic country, where we currently >>>have six parties in Parliament?

We have managed to strike a balance between inclusiveness, and keeping >>>the fanatic fringe like Brian Tamaki out.

This country was pretty good in the 70s, especially relative to similar
countries.

Back when one party, gaining a majority of the seats from a minority of >voters, could do essentially what it liked?

Non-sequitur.

I note you are increasing your use of sarcasm - overuse of it really
is the refuge of the incompetent debater. An occasional use, for
effect. is OK, but only just.

This is why I haven’t killfiled you yet.

Oh, please do, I can only handle so many silly responses in a day.
You haven't changed over the years that is for sure.
I only use sarcasm occasionally, unlike you.

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Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 00:47:40 GMT, Tony wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 09:15:40 +1300, Aristotle_the_3rd wrote:

I wish we could fire all of our pollies and star from scratch but who
would we get.

Why not form a new fire-all-of-our-pollies-and-star[t]-from-scratch >>>party, and see if you can get a lot of votes.

Wow, how droll!

Aren’t you glad to live in such a democratic country, where we currently >have six parties in Parliament?

We have managed to strike a balance between inclusiveness, and keeping the >fanatic fringe like Brian Tamaki out.

This country was pretty good in the 70s, especially relative to similar countries.
Then the 80s arrived and successive terrible governments started the decline in standards and performance.
Since turn of the century, we have had two reasonable governments, both with three terms.
Then six years ago Ardern initiated the deliberate destruction of democracy, Hipkins continued but fortunately not for long.
What we have now is significantly better than that. A wise and fair person would watch with care, and give them a chaance. Unfortunately there are those who just want to continue the chaos and deceit of the past government and spend their energy supporting any and all attempts to drive us back to the stone age. Rich80105 is one such. You?
I note you are increasing your use of sarcasm - overuse of it really is the refuge of the incompetent debater. An occasional use, for effect. is OK, but only just.

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On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 01:58:48 GMT, Tony wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 00:47:40 GMT, Tony wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 09:15:40 +1300, Aristotle_the_3rd wrote:

I wish we could fire all of our pollies and star from scratch but
who would we get.

Why not form a new fire-all-of-our-pollies-and-star[t]-from-scratch >>>>party, and see if you can get a lot of votes.

Wow, how droll!

Aren’t you glad to live in such a democratic country, where we currently >>have six parties in Parliament?

We have managed to strike a balance between inclusiveness, and keeping
the fanatic fringe like Brian Tamaki out.

This country was pretty good in the 70s, especially relative to similar countries.

Back when one party, gaining a majority of the seats from a minority of
voters, could do essentially what it liked?

I note you are increasing your use of sarcasm - overuse of it really
is the refuge of the incompetent debater. An occasional use, for
effect. is OK, but only just.

This is why I haven’t killfiled you yet.

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On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 00:47:40 GMT, Tony wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 09:15:40 +1300, Aristotle_the_3rd wrote:

I wish we could fire all of our pollies and star from scratch but who
would we get.

Why not form a new fire-all-of-our-pollies-and-star[t]-from-scratch
party, and see if you can get a lot of votes.

Wow, how droll!

Aren’t you glad to live in such a democratic country, where we currently
have six parties in Parliament?

We have managed to strike a balance between inclusiveness, and keeping the fanatic fringe like Brian Tamaki out.

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On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 02:14:20 GMT, Tony wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 01:58:48 GMT, Tony wrote:

This country was pretty good in the 70s, especially relative to
similar countries.

Back when one party, gaining a majority of the seats from a minority of >>voters, could do essentially what it liked?

Non-sequitur.

I’ll take that as a “yes”.

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Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 02:14:20 GMT, Tony wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 01:58:48 GMT, Tony wrote:

This country was pretty good in the 70s, especially relative to
similar countries.

Back when one party, gaining a majority of the seats from a minority of >>>voters, could do essentially what it liked?

Non-sequitur.

I’ll take that as a “yes”.

Do what you like, it doesn't make it a yes just because you desire it to be so.

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On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 03:26:53 GMT, Tony wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 02:14:20 GMT, Tony wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 01:58:48 GMT, Tony wrote:

This country was pretty good in the 70s, especially relative to
similar countries.

Back when one party, gaining a majority of the seats from a minority
of voters, could do essentially what it liked?

Non-sequitur.

I’ll take that as a “yes”.

Do what you like, it doesn't make it a yes just because you desire it to
be so.

The fact was, that was how it was then. A time you described as “pretty good”.

The conclusion is ... self-evident.

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Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 03:26:53 GMT, Tony wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 02:14:20 GMT, Tony wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 01:58:48 GMT, Tony wrote:

This country was pretty good in the 70s, especially relative to
similar countries.

Back when one party, gaining a majority of the seats from a minority >>>>>of voters, could do essentially what it liked?

Non-sequitur.

I’ll take that as a “yes”.

Do what you like, it doesn't make it a yes just because you desire it to
be so.

The fact was, that was how it was then. A time you described as “pretty >good”.

The conclusion is ... self-evident.

You still need the language lessons - but your English ability is a match for your sorry logic.

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Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 06:33:16 GMT, Tony wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 03:26:53 GMT, Tony wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 02:14:20 GMT, Tony wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 01:58:48 GMT, Tony wrote:

This country was pretty good in the 70s, especially relative to >>>>>>>> similar countries.

Back when one party, gaining a majority of the seats from a minority >>>>>>>of voters, could do essentially what it liked?

Non-sequitur.

I’ll take that as a “yes”.

Do what you like, it doesn't make it a yes just because you desire it
to be so.

The fact was, that was how it was then. A time you described as “pretty >>>good”.

The conclusion is ... self-evident.

[Meaningless ad-hominem]

Quite a common technique for distracting from the fact that you are losing >the argument.

There is no argument because you have no case to argue.
You did not understand a simple English construct, your problem not mine.
So, no distraction from me - but you are nothing but a dsitraction here, I suspect that is your purpose.

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On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 06:33:16 GMT, Tony wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 03:26:53 GMT, Tony wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 02:14:20 GMT, Tony wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 01:58:48 GMT, Tony wrote:

This country was pretty good in the 70s, especially relative to
similar countries.

Back when one party, gaining a majority of the seats from a minority >>>>>>of voters, could do essentially what it liked?

Non-sequitur.

I’ll take that as a “yes”.

Do what you like, it doesn't make it a yes just because you desire it
to be so.

The fact was, that was how it was then. A time you described as “pretty >>good”.

The conclusion is ... self-evident.

[Meaningless ad-hominem]

Quite a common technique for distracting from the fact that you are losing
the argument.

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