• A story with a sting in the tail.

    From Tony@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 3 19:51:30 2024
    XPost: nz.politics

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350167049/damien-grant-final-act-wilful-recklessness-labour-government
    As always Damien Grant offers s different perspective.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Sun Feb 4 11:25:58 2024
    On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 19:51:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350167049/damien-grant-final-act-wilful-recklessness-labour-government
    As always Damien Grant offers s different perspective.
    Damien Grant is consistently far-right in his attitudes, but in his
    contempt for Jenny Shipley he is merely adopting one of the mantras of
    the far right in turning on one of his own when things go wrong. Yes
    she chaired the Board that made egregious mistakes, but in being
    hopefully the last of those appointments based on other than business
    acumen he unfairly blames her for the mistakes of the whole Board. It
    does seem to be the mantra of the far right that position provides
    competence, even when in the case of Shipley and now Luxon, it clearly
    doesn't.

    He then links the failure of Shipley and her fellow Directors to a
    change in law that used the words : “To avoid doubt, in considering
    the best interests of a company … a director may consider matters
    other than the maximisation of profit (for example, environmental,
    social, and governance matters).”

    The shareholders of Mainzeal may well have wished that Shipley et al
    had indeed avoided the high risk (but possibly in their eyes
    potential for high reward) decisions that led to the failure - what
    they missed was taking their shareholders with them - that balance
    between short and long term; between high risk and high reward, or no
    risk no reward.

    Damien Grant makes his living from business failures; his lack of
    insight is troubling; as is the shallowness of his analysis - which
    perhaps explains his political leaning towards simplistic answers to
    all questions. Grant does get boring Tony, doesn't he. . .

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sun Feb 4 02:09:00 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 19:51:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    I have removed your personal diatribe against the author and your blatant political comments.
    Perhaps you could have a little lie down compose yourself and see whether you can, for perhaps the first time this year, actually address the content.
    Gentle readesr (does not include Rich) don't hold your breath!

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Sun Feb 4 15:44:45 2024
    On Sun, 4 Feb 2024 02:09:00 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 19:51:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    I have removed your personal diatribe against the author and your blatant >political comments.
    Perhaps you could have a little lie down compose yourself and see whether you >can, for perhaps the first time this year, actually address the content. >Gentle readesr (does not include Rich) don't hold your breath!

    Happy to oblige you Tony. I am sorry that you deleted my comments, but
    if you had sought advice you could have learned how to recover them
    yourself.

    It is possible that you may not agree with everything I say, but I am
    sure you would agree that this would merely be an opportunity for you
    to explain your own views, should you be able to articulate such
    differences of course . . . Over to you!

    Damien Grant is consistently far-right in his attitudes, but in his
    contempt for Jenny Shipley he is merely adopting one of the mantras of
    the far right in turning on one of his own when things go wrong. Yes
    she chaired the Board that made egregious mistakes, but in being
    hopefully the last of those appointments based on other than business
    acumen he unfairly blames her for the mistakes of the whole Board. It
    does seem to be the mantra of the far right that position provides
    competence, even when in the case of Shipley and now Luxon, it clearly
    doesn't.

    He then links the failure of Shipley and her fellow Directors to a
    change in law that used the words : “To avoid doubt, in considering
    the best interests of a company … a director may consider matters
    other than the maximisation of profit (for example, environmental,
    social, and governance matters).”

    The shareholders of Mainzeal may well have wished that Shipley et al
    had indeed avoided the high risk (but possibly in their eyes
    potential for high reward) decisions that led to the failure - what
    they missed was taking their shareholders with them - that balance
    between short and long term; between high risk and high reward, or no
    risk no reward.

    Damien Grant makes his living from business failures; his lack of
    insight is troubling; as is the shallowness of his analysis - which
    perhaps explains his political leaning towards simplistic answers to
    all questions. Grant does get boring Tony, doesn't he. . .

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sun Feb 4 03:56:08 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 4 Feb 2024 02:09:00 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 19:51:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    I have removed your personal diatribe against the author and your blatant >>political comments.
    Perhaps you could have a little lie down compose yourself and see whether you >>can, for perhaps the first time this year, actually address the content. >>Gentle readesr (does not include Rich) don't hold your breath!


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