https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/prime-minister-christopher-luxon-under-fire-for-using-public-funds-to-learn-te-reo-maori/R5BBVQ2QWZC63OVK3NDAAIJ5HY/and representing Te Reo speakers?
Somehow a biased reporter having a petty little whinge about the PM equates to the PM being "under fire"? Give me strength.
So this so called reporter thinks DOC staff being paid cash bonuses to learn Te Reo that is not required for their jobs is somehow equivalent to a political leader availing himself of a Te Reo education that will allow him to do his job in dealing with
These lefty media shills have no shame.
Somehow a biased reporter having a petty little whinge about the PM equates to >the PM being "under fire"? Give me strength.There's very little more vicious than a faux journalist losing their bribe. There should be applause for the PM being willing to learn a minority but important NZ language.
So this so called reporter thinks DOC staff being paid cash bonuses to learn >Te Reo that is not required for their jobs is somehow equivalent to a political
leader availing himself of a Te Reo education that will allow him to do his job
in dealing with and representing Te Reo speakers?
These lefty media shills have no shame.
On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 12:25:16 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>and representing Te Reo speakers?
wrote:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/prime-minister-christopher-luxon-under-fire-for-using-public-funds-to-learn-te-reo-maori/R5BBVQ2QWZC63OVK3NDAAIJ5HY/
Somehow a biased reporter having a petty little whinge about the PM equates to the PM being "under fire"? Give me strength.
So this so called reporter thinks DOC staff being paid cash bonuses to learn Te Reo that is not required for their jobs is somehow equivalent to a political leader availing himself of a Te Reo education that will allow him to do his job in dealing with
Or damned anyway - such is political life.
These lefty media shills have no shame.
So I expect that the Maori Party will congratulate the PM on his
efforts to learn the Maori language. Yeah right - damned if he does
and damned if he does not.
On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 10:32:24 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>with and representing Te Reo speakers?
wrote:
On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 12:25:16 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>wrote:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/prime-minister-christopher-luxon-under-fire-for-using-public-funds-to-learn-te-reo-maori/R5BBVQ2QWZC63OVK3NDAAIJ5HY/
Somehow a biased reporter having a petty little whinge about the PM equates to the PM being "under fire"? Give me strength.
So this so called reporter thinks DOC staff being paid cash bonuses to learn Te Reo that is not required for their jobs is somehow equivalent to a political leader availing himself of a Te Reo education that will allow him to do his job in dealing
I have not seen that DOC staff are being paid to learn Maori -
certainly that is not asserted in the article. Some government
departments are more effective if they have staff able to speak other >languages, but they were finding it difficult to recruit people with
that skill. As far as I am aware staff are not paid to learn the
language, they are paid extra for being able to speak the language.
Some departments have had such requirements for a very long time -
courts for example employ some translators, and have others on call -
social welfare agencies and police find it desirable to have people
able to speak other languages. Even Parliament have found it necessary
to employ translators able to assist Winston Peters with understanding
a question asked in Maori! Being paid for being better able to do
your job is not unusual - in fact it is normal business practice (and
yes there are private companies that need to have staff able to speak
other languages).
Or damned anyway - such is political life.
These lefty media shills have no shame.
So I expect that the Maori Party will congratulate the PM on his
efforts to learn the Maori language. Yeah right - damned if he does
and damned if he does not.
On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 11:19:10 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>Interesting how this is the most important matter that silly journalists and trivial casual commentators are focussed on. Just imagine what fun these little children would have if there was a conspiracy like he puapua or three waters still going on. Sheesh - grow up.
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 10:32:24 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:
On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 12:25:16 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>wrote:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/prime-minister-christopher-luxon-under-fire-for-using-public-funds-to-learn-te-reo-maori/R5BBVQ2QWZC63OVK3NDAAIJ5HY/
Somehow a biased reporter having a petty little whinge about the PM equates >>>>to the PM being "under fire"? Give me strength.
So this so called reporter thinks DOC staff being paid cash bonuses to >>>>learn Te Reo that is not required for their jobs is somehow equivalent to a >>>>political leader availing himself of a Te Reo education that will allow him to
do his job in dealing with and representing Te Reo speakers?
I have not seen that DOC staff are being paid to learn Maori -
certainly that is not asserted in the article. Some government
departments are more effective if they have staff able to speak other >>languages, but they were finding it difficult to recruit people with
that skill. As far as I am aware staff are not paid to learn the
language, they are paid extra for being able to speak the language.
Some departments have had such requirements for a very long time -
courts for example employ some translators, and have others on call - >>social welfare agencies and police find it desirable to have people
able to speak other languages. Even Parliament have found it necessary
to employ translators able to assist Winston Peters with understanding
a question asked in Maori! Being paid for being better able to do
your job is not unusual - in fact it is normal business practice (and
yes there are private companies that need to have staff able to speak
other languages).
Or damned anyway - such is political life.
These lefty media shills have no shame.
So I expect that the Maori Party will congratulate the PM on his
efforts to learn the Maori language. Yeah right - damned if he does
and damned if he does not.
Now it has become clear that the hypocrisy is totally indefensible,
even the Taxpayers Union cannot avoid wading in as the self-appointed >conscience of the National and ACT parties: >https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/luxon_should_pay_back_te_reo_tuition_fees
“The Taxpayers’ Union is calling on Prime Minister Christopher Luxon
to pay back the cost of his Te Reo tuition fees following revelations
that he has been getting his lessons paid for by the taxpayer.
Taxpayers’ Union Campaigns Manager, Connor Molloy, said:
“Prime Minister Luxon has clearly been caught out saying one thing but
doing another. He should do the right thing and pay the money back.
“Taking taxpayer money for Te Reo lessons while criticising public
servants for doing the same undermines the credibility of the
Government who proclaims to be focused on reducing wasteful spending.
The culture of respect for taxpayers’ money must be set from the top.
“If a proficiency in Te Reo is necessary, of course tuition should be
funded by the taxpayer but there is no real justification as to why Mr
Luxon should have taxpayer funded Te Reo that would not also apply to
public servants. If Mr Luxon wants to learn Te Reo, he should do so
from his own pocket.” “
As far as I am aware staff are not paid to learn the
language, they are paid extra for being able to speak the language.
On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 11:19:10 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
There are situations where it is desirable to be able to speak toAs far as I am aware staff are not paid to learn the
language, they are paid extra for being able to speak the language.
For what purpose?
There are no Maori speakers who can't speak English.
Bill.
On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 17:18:41 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:
On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 11:19:10 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
As far as I am aware staff are not paid to learn the
language, they are paid extra for being able to speak the language.
For what purpose?
There are no Maori speakers who can't speak English.
There are situations where it is desirable to be able to speak to
people in their native tongue
- not just those that speak Maori - and
a speaker of a language will often have a better knowledge of cultural
norms, and achieve more than a person who does not speak their
language.
Some departments require translation services - courts,
prisons, immigration, social services, customs, inland revenue,
parliamentary offices, those dealing with organisations about ongoing >management and administration of treaty claims (Doc has a number of
those), schools and universities, etc.
Maori is being used more than previously, and departments need to be
able to be more flexible in meeting the needs of people in New
Zealand.
I am aware of those learning Japanese, Chinese or Korean
planning to work in tourism - they are more likely to get a job if
they are at least partly fluent.
The world has changed, and employers have changed to meet those needs.
Bill.
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