• More evidence of greed,

    From Tony@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 9 20:52:45 2023
    XPost: nz.politics

    By the purveyors of climate lies. https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1733132913963630701?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1733132913963630701%7Ctwgr%5E3d4c4e880943c75cb749262c5a610fd86ad36d9e%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
    With the mainstream media toeing the goverment's line in most countries thank goodness we have the fringe press providing balance.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Sun Dec 10 15:52:01 2023
    On Sat, 9 Dec 2023 20:52:45 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    By the purveyors of climate lies. >https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1733132913963630701?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1733132913963630701%7Ctwgr%5E3d4c4e880943c75cb749262c5a610fd86ad36d9e%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
    With the mainstream media toeing the goverment's line in most countries thank >goodness we have the fringe press providing balance.

    Hard to believe anyone would pay for that, Tony, but you are right
    that the fringe does at times have surprising support in spreading
    such lies.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sun Dec 10 03:53:32 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Dec 2023 20:52:45 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    By the purveyors of climate lies. >>https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1733132913963630701?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1733132913963630701%7Ctwgr%5E3d4c4e880943c75cb749262c5a610fd86ad36d9e%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
    With the mainstream media toeing the goverment's line in most countries thank >>goodness we have the fringe press providing balance.

    Stupidity removed. When will the idiot rich80105 ever post without changing the meaning of other posters writings - Let's see - I say he never will, any takers?

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Sun Dec 10 20:15:11 2023
    On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 03:53:32 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Dec 2023 20:52:45 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    By the purveyors of climate lies. >>>https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1733132913963630701?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1733132913963630701%7Ctwgr%5E3d4c4e880943c75cb749262c5a610fd86ad36d9e%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
    With the mainstream media toeing the goverment's line in most countries thank
    goodness we have the fringe press providing balance.

    Stupidity removed. When will the idiot rich80105 ever post without changing the
    meaning of other posters writings - Let's see - I say he never will, any takers?

    Not from me. Rich mostly posts not from the point of view of adding
    value to a thread, but from the point of view of promoting Labour =
    good or Greens = Labour-lite with political rhetoric.

    There is the odd exception to this - but this gives rise not to a
    well-rounded character but to evidence of multiple identities using
    the Rich80105 pseudonym.

    I acknowledge this post as being less than charitable.


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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 10 23:40:38 2023
    On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 20:15:11 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 03:53:32 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Dec 2023 20:52:45 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    By the purveyors of climate lies. >>>>https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1733132913963630701?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1733132913963630701%7Ctwgr%5E3d4c4e880943c75cb749262c5a610fd86ad36d9e%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
    With the mainstream media toeing the goverment's line in most countries thank
    goodness we have the fringe press providing balance.

    Stupidity removed. When will the idiot rich80105 ever post without changing the
    meaning of other posters writings - Let's see - I say he never will, any takers?

    the link posted is clearly from a very fringe / ''alternative''
    source. That it is purveying lies is clear - Tony's post was as is
    sadly typical very confused.


    Not from me. Rich mostly posts not from the point of view of adding
    value to a thread, but from the point of view of promoting Labour =
    good or Greens = Labour-lite with political rhetoric.

    There is the odd exception to this - but this gives rise not to a >well-rounded character but to evidence of multiple identities using
    the Rich80105 pseudonym.

    I acknowledge this post as being less than charitable.
    Which is unlike your normal posts, but your loyalty to Tony is in this
    case sadly misplaced; his lack of balance on such issues as Covid and
    Climate Change does not usually go so far as to believe the rubbish in
    the link he posted.

    There have been a small number of posts using the posting name
    Rich80105 which did not come from me - if I see such a post I object
    loudly - it is a tactic which appears to be resorted to by those who
    are incapable of civilised discourse. I have not seen such a post for
    quite a few months now.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sun Dec 10 20:27:56 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 20:15:11 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 03:53:32 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Dec 2023 20:52:45 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    By the purveyors of climate lies. >>>>>https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1733132913963630701?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1733132913963630701%7Ctwgr%5E3d4c4e880943c75cb749262c5a610fd86ad36d9e%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
    With the mainstream media toeing the goverment's line in most countries >>>>>thank
    goodness we have the fringe press providing balance.

    Stupidity removed. When will the idiot rich80105 ever post without changing >>>the
    meaning of other posters writings - Let's see - I say he never will, any >>>takers?

    the link posted is clearly from a very fringe / ''alternative''
    source. That it is purveying lies is clear - Tony's post was as is
    sadly typical very confused.
    You are really a patronising little twerp, what a pity you have no basis in skills or knowledge to be so patronising.
    Fringe media are often the ones that tell the truth - something you would not be able to recognise.


    Not from me. Rich mostly posts not from the point of view of adding
    value to a thread, but from the point of view of promoting Labour =
    good or Greens = Labour-lite with political rhetoric.

    There is the odd exception to this - but this gives rise not to a >>well-rounded character but to evidence of multiple identities using
    the Rich80105 pseudonym.

    I acknowledge this post as being less than charitable.
    Which is unlike your normal posts, but your loyalty to Tony is in this
    case sadly misplaced; his lack of balance on such issues as Covid and
    Climate Change does not usually go so far as to believe the rubbish in
    the link he posted.
    You, once more, do not address the content. That in itself is evidence of your culpable refusal to enter into debate. Kicking the site or the author is what idiots and blaggards do - just like you.

    There have been a small number of posts using the posting name
    Rich80105 which did not come from me - if I see such a post I object
    loudly - it is a tactic which appears to be resorted to by those who
    are incapable of civilised discourse. I have not seen such a post for
    quite a few months now.
    Coincidental with the almost entire disappearance of another poster of your ilk. Who'd have thought it eh?

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 11 09:52:40 2023
    On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 23:40:38 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 20:15:11 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 03:53:32 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Dec 2023 20:52:45 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    By the purveyors of climate lies. >>>>>https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1733132913963630701?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1733132913963630701%7Ctwgr%5E3d4c4e880943c75cb749262c5a610fd86ad36d9e%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
    With the mainstream media toeing the goverment's line in most countries thank
    goodness we have the fringe press providing balance.

    Stupidity removed. When will the idiot rich80105 ever post without changing the
    meaning of other posters writings - Let's see - I say he never will, any takers?

    the link posted is clearly from a very fringe / ''alternative''
    source. That it is purveying lies is clear - Tony's post was as is
    sadly typical very confused.


    Not from me. Rich mostly posts not from the point of view of adding
    value to a thread, but from the point of view of promoting Labour =
    good or Greens = Labour-lite with political rhetoric.

    There is the odd exception to this - but this gives rise not to a >>well-rounded character but to evidence of multiple identities using
    the Rich80105 pseudonym.

    I acknowledge this post as being less than charitable.
    Which is unlike your normal posts, but your loyalty to Tony is in this
    case sadly misplaced;

    Loyalty? You're nuts. I am no more 'loyal' to Tony than you. What
    an absurd assertion.

    his lack of balance on such issues as Covid and
    Climate Change does not usually go so far as to believe the rubbish in
    the link he posted.

    There have been a small number of posts using the posting name
    Rich80105 which did not come from me - if I see such a post I object
    loudly - it is a tactic which appears to be resorted to by those who
    are incapable of civilised discourse. I have not seen such a post for
    quite a few months now.

    Those posts were easy to pick because they expressed viewpoints that
    were clearly not yours. Most of your posts include political rhetoric
    as I said earlier. Those that do not could well come from someone
    else using your 'nym.


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    Crash McBash

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Crash on Sun Dec 10 21:30:03 2023
    Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 23:40:38 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 20:15:11 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 03:53:32 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Dec 2023 20:52:45 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    By the purveyors of climate lies. >>>>>>https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1733132913963630701?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1733132913963630701%7Ctwgr%5E3d4c4e880943c75cb749262c5a610fd86ad36d9e%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
    With the mainstream media toeing the goverment's line in most countries >>>>>>thank
    goodness we have the fringe press providing balance.

    Stupidity removed. When will the idiot rich80105 ever post without changing >>>>the
    meaning of other posters writings - Let's see - I say he never will, any >>>>takers?

    the link posted is clearly from a very fringe / ''alternative''
    source. That it is purveying lies is clear - Tony's post was as is
    sadly typical very confused.


    Not from me. Rich mostly posts not from the point of view of adding >>>value to a thread, but from the point of view of promoting Labour =
    good or Greens = Labour-lite with political rhetoric.

    There is the odd exception to this - but this gives rise not to a >>>well-rounded character but to evidence of multiple identities using
    the Rich80105 pseudonym.

    I acknowledge this post as being less than charitable.
    Which is unlike your normal posts, but your loyalty to Tony is in this
    case sadly misplaced;

    Loyalty? You're nuts. I am no more 'loyal' to Tony than you. What
    an absurd assertion.
    Yes absurd. Loyalty is something that is entirely missing in a mainly anonymous group like this and a very telling choice by Rich!

    his lack of balance on such issues as Covid and
    Climate Change does not usually go so far as to believe the rubbish in
    the link he posted.

    There have been a small number of posts using the posting name
    Rich80105 which did not come from me - if I see such a post I object
    loudly - it is a tactic which appears to be resorted to by those who
    are incapable of civilised discourse. I have not seen such a post for
    quite a few months now.

    Those posts were easy to pick because they expressed viewpoints that
    were clearly not yours. Most of your posts include political rhetoric
    as I said earlier. Those that do not could well come from someone
    else using your 'nym.
    It has been said by some people here that Rich80105 is in fact more than one person - that might be true, I am unsure, but dual personality is an alternative possibility.


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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Gordon on Mon Dec 11 06:38:58 2023
    Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    On 2023-12-10, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 20:15:11 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 03:53:32 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Dec 2023 20:52:45 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    By the purveyors of climate lies. >>>>>>https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1733132913963630701?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1733132913963630701%7Ctwgr%5E3d4c4e880943c75cb749262c5a610fd86ad36d9e%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
    With the mainstream media toeing the goverment's line in most countries >>>>>>thank
    goodness we have the fringe press providing balance.

    Stupidity removed. When will the idiot rich80105 ever post without changing >>>>the
    meaning of other posters writings - Let's see - I say he never will, any >>>>takers?

    the link posted is clearly from a very fringe / ''alternative''
    source. That it is purveying lies is clear - Tony's post was as is
    sadly typical very confused.


    Not from me. Rich mostly posts not from the point of view of adding >>>value to a thread, but from the point of view of promoting Labour =
    good or Greens = Labour-lite with political rhetoric.

    There is the odd exception to this - but this gives rise not to a >>>well-rounded character but to evidence of multiple identities using
    the Rich80105 pseudonym.

    I acknowledge this post as being less than charitable.
    Which is unlike your normal posts, but your loyalty to Tony is in this
    case sadly misplaced; his lack of balance on such issues as Covid and
    Climate Change does not usually go so far as to believe the rubbish in
    the link he posted.

    In giving ones views it is permissable to be on "edge", to advocate strongly >for an idea. There is no requirement to be "balanced".
    Yes that is correct, but Rich requires others to meet his opinion of balanced whilst almost always providing an unbalanced and predetermined view himself.


    There have been a small number of posts using the posting name
    Rich80105 which did not come from me - if I see such a post I object
    loudly - it is a tactic which appears to be resorted to by those who
    are incapable of civilised discourse. I have not seen such a post for
    quite a few months now.

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Mon Dec 11 06:31:03 2023
    On 2023-12-10, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 20:15:11 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 03:53:32 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Dec 2023 20:52:45 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    By the purveyors of climate lies. >>>>>https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1733132913963630701?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1733132913963630701%7Ctwgr%5E3d4c4e880943c75cb749262c5a610fd86ad36d9e%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
    With the mainstream media toeing the goverment's line in most countries thank
    goodness we have the fringe press providing balance.

    Stupidity removed. When will the idiot rich80105 ever post without changing the
    meaning of other posters writings - Let's see - I say he never will, any takers?

    the link posted is clearly from a very fringe / ''alternative''
    source. That it is purveying lies is clear - Tony's post was as is
    sadly typical very confused.


    Not from me. Rich mostly posts not from the point of view of adding
    value to a thread, but from the point of view of promoting Labour =
    good or Greens = Labour-lite with political rhetoric.

    There is the odd exception to this - but this gives rise not to a >>well-rounded character but to evidence of multiple identities using
    the Rich80105 pseudonym.

    I acknowledge this post as being less than charitable.
    Which is unlike your normal posts, but your loyalty to Tony is in this
    case sadly misplaced; his lack of balance on such issues as Covid and
    Climate Change does not usually go so far as to believe the rubbish in
    the link he posted.

    In giving ones views it is permissable to be on "edge", to advocate strongly for an idea. There is no requirement to be "balanced".


    There have been a small number of posts using the posting name
    Rich80105 which did not come from me - if I see such a post I object
    loudly - it is a tactic which appears to be resorted to by those who
    are incapable of civilised discourse. I have not seen such a post for
    quite a few months now.

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