on the head. >https://karldufresne.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-medias-war-on-new-government.htmlHow would you propose that be done, Tony?
The MSM needs to be dismanteld by its own bias and replaced with some >old-fashioned honest journalists.
On Sat, 2 Dec 2023 19:55:27 -0000 (UTC), TonyRead my sentence above.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
on the head. >>https://karldufresne.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-medias-war-on-new-government.htmlHow would you propose that be done, Tony?
The MSM needs to be dismanteld by its own bias and replaced with some >>old-fashioned honest journalists.
This may also be of interest: >https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018917877/claims-of-media-bribery-derail-new-government-on-day-oneWhat a load of drivel - just more evidence of media bias and enjoying the fruits of a bribe.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:I did not ask what you propose be done, but how you believe government
On Sat, 2 Dec 2023 19:55:27 -0000 (UTC), TonyRead my sentence above.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
on the head. >>>https://karldufresne.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-medias-war-on-new-government.htmlHow would you propose that be done, Tony?
The MSM needs to be dismanteld by its own bias and replaced with some >>>old-fashioned honest journalists.
An old adage applies - Read, mark, learn and inwardly digest. You may tghen >understand.
What a load of drivel - just more evidence of media bias and enjoying the >fruits of a bribe.
This may also be of interest: >>https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018917877/claims-of-media-bribery-derail-new-government-on-day-one
On 2023-12-02, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
on the head.
https://karldufresne.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-medias-war-on-new-government.html
The MSM needs to be dismanteld by its own bias and replaced with some
old-fashioned honest journalists.
"The message is clear. The mainstream media are sulking because they think >the voters elected the wrong government. They are angry and indignant that >despite all their efforts, New Zealand swung right on October 14."
In Trump's words, The election was stolen, and we have to fight like hell.
on the head. https://karldufresne.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-medias-war-on-new-government.html
The MSM needs to be dismanteld by its own bias and replaced with some old-fashioned honest journalists.
On Sat, 2 Dec 2023 19:55:27 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
on the head. >>https://karldufresne.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-medias-war-on-new-government.htmlHow would you propose that be done, Tony?
The MSM needs to be dismanteld by its own bias and replaced with some >>old-fashioned honest journalists.
This may also be of interest: https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018917877/claims-of-media-bribery-derail-new-government-on-day-one
On 2023-12-02, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Even with the spelling mistake the wish is quite clear. What is not
On Sat, 2 Dec 2023 19:55:27 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
on the head. >>>https://karldufresne.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-medias-war-on-new-government.htmlHow would you propose that be done, Tony?
The MSM needs to be dismanteld by its own bias and replaced with some >>>old-fashioned honest journalists.
What part of "The MSM needs to be dismanteld by its own bias and replaced with >some old-fashioned honest journalists" don't you understand?
This may also be of interest:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018917877/claims-of-media-bribery-derail-new-government-on-day-one
On 2 Dec 2023 21:50:49 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Off topic by a country mile.
On 2023-12-02, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
on the head.
The MSM needs to be dismanteld by its own bias and replaced with somehttps://karldufresne.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-medias-war-on-new-government.html
old-fashioned honest journalists.
"The message is clear. The mainstream media are sulking because they think >>the voters elected the wrong government. They are angry and indignant that >>despite all their efforts, New Zealand swung right on October 14."
In Trump's words, The election was stolen, and we have to fight like hell.
At the start of every government the media seek answers as to what the
new government will do, and to get comments from as many new Ministers
as possible. Some will be seeking to trigger a sacking, or to prompt a
new MP to say something embarrassing. That feeding frenzy will last
for as long as it is entertaining. Some Prime Ministers are better
than others at avoiding it - Key, Clarke and Ardern did quite well - >Oppositions are similarly being probed - we know that National had
problems in the term after Ardern became PM; Labour had a difficult
time for the term after Key became PM. Scalp hunters are seeking prey
from both government and opposition - the major stories at present are
about conflict between Peters, Sinclair and Luxon as leaders of the
new government
On 2 Dec 2023 21:54:24 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Your lack of understanding of simple English has let you down. The meaning is clear in what I wrote. At least to those for whom English is well understood. And your pickiness over a typo tells us all we need to know about your maturity.
On 2023-12-02, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Even with the spelling mistake the wish is quite clear. What is not
On Sat, 2 Dec 2023 19:55:27 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
on the head. >>>>https://karldufresne.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-medias-war-on-new-government.htmlHow would you propose that be done, Tony?
The MSM needs to be dismanteld by its own bias and replaced with some >>>>old-fashioned honest journalists.
What part of "The MSM needs to be dismanteld by its own bias and replaced with
some old-fashioned honest journalists" don't you understand?
clear is what Tony thinks should actually be done to achieve that >"aspirational goal". Suppose the statement made by Tony is converted
to part of the Speech from the Throne intoned at the opening of
parliament as say "The Main Stream Media is to be dismantled by its
own bias and replaced with old-fashioned journalists." There would
probably be a few questions about just what that means, but also what, >specifically, does the government propose to do? Will they make a
compulsory purchase of shares in some media companies? Will they do
away with press conferences? What are the action plans? Who are >"old-fashioned journalists"? What are the actions that accompany the >political goal? Who goes and who stays?
This may also be of interest:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018917877/claims-of-media-bribery-derail-new-government-on-day-one
On Sat, 2 Dec 2023 21:48:14 -0000 (UTC), TonyIrrelevant. I did not say they had to do anything. As above - read and understand for once.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:I did not ask what you propose be done, but how you believe government
On Sat, 2 Dec 2023 19:55:27 -0000 (UTC), TonyRead my sentence above.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
on the head. >>>>https://karldufresne.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-medias-war-on-new-government.htmlHow would you propose that be done, Tony?
The MSM needs to be dismanteld by its own bias and replaced with some >>>>old-fashioned honest journalists.
An old adage applies - Read, mark, learn and inwardly digest. You may tghen >>understand.
could achieve your desired outcome
What, specifically, do you want the new government to do?
What a load of drivel - just more evidence of media bias and enjoying the >>fruits of a bribe.
This may also be of interest: >>>https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018917877/claims-of-media-bribery-derail-new-government-on-day-one
On Sat, 2 Dec 2023, Tony<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
The MSM needs to be dismanteld by its own bias and replaced with some >>old-fashioned honest journalists.
How would you propose that be done, Tony?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 2 Dec 2023 21:50:49 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Off topic by a country mile.
On 2023-12-02, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:At the start of every government the media seek answers as to what the
on the head.
The MSM needs to be dismanteld by its own bias and replaced with somehttps://karldufresne.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-medias-war-on-new-government.html
old-fashioned honest journalists.
"The message is clear. The mainstream media are sulking because they think >>>the voters elected the wrong government. They are angry and indignant that >>>despite all their efforts, New Zealand swung right on October 14."
In Trump's words, The election was stolen, and we have to fight like hell. >>
new government will do, and to get comments from as many new Ministers
as possible. Some will be seeking to trigger a sacking, or to prompt a
new MP to say something embarrassing. That feeding frenzy will last
for as long as it is entertaining. Some Prime Ministers are better
than others at avoiding it - Key, Clarke and Ardern did quite well - >>Oppositions are similarly being probed - we know that National had
problems in the term after Ardern became PM; Labour had a difficult
time for the term after Key became PM. Scalp hunters are seeking prey
from both government and opposition - the major stories at present are >>about conflict between Peters, Sinclair and Luxon as leaders of the
new government
On Sat, 2 Dec 2023 23:25:17 -0000 (UTC), TonyIn future don't you dare accuse me of spelling mistakes when you can't make a sentence make sense with the help of a spell checker, something I do not use. >- they are delighted to have
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 2 Dec 2023 21:50:49 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Off topic by a country mile.
On 2023-12-02, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:At the start of every government the media seek answers as to what the >>>new government will do, and to get comments from as many new Ministers
on the head.
The MSM needs to be dismanteld by its own bias and replaced with some >>>>> old-fashioned honest journalists.https://karldufresne.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-medias-war-on-new-government.html
"The message is clear. The mainstream media are sulking because they think >>>>the voters elected the wrong government. They are angry and indignant that >>>>despite all their efforts, New Zealand swung right on October 14."
In Trump's words, The election was stolen, and we have to fight like hell. >>>
as possible. Some will be seeking to trigger a sacking, or to prompt a >>>new MP to say something embarrassing. That feeding frenzy will last
for as long as it is entertaining. Some Prime Ministers are better
than others at avoiding it - Key, Clarke and Ardern did quite well - >>>Oppositions are similarly being probed - we know that National had >>>problems in the term after Ardern became PM; Labour had a difficult
time for the term after Key became PM. Scalp hunters are seeking prey >>>from both government and opposition - the major stories at present are >>>about conflict between Peters, Sinclair and Luxon as leaders of the
new government
Not at all - I cannot confirm that du Fresne hit any nail, butt he
mainstream media are clearly not sulking
new people to interview and report, new stories to tell, new ideas to >investigate, and new MPs to catch out. They are clearly finding outYou really are a rude bugger.
about the new government, which is getting at times more publicity
than they probably want; the media will report dissent much faster
than agreement, uncertainty more than clarity, and a reporter that can
goad an MP into saying something they should not have that is extra
kudos to the reporter! They are not supporting one party over others, Nonsense - you cannot evidence that.
they are seeking conflict as that makes for a better story - and with
three parties the scope for reporting or even creating conflict
appears to be there, courtesy of the three wise monkeys at the top.
If you think the election was stolen then who are you accusing ofDo stop wandering back to your childhood fantsies. Who said the elction was stolen?
stealing?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 2 Dec 2023 23:25:17 -0000 (UTC), TonyIn future don't you dare accuse me of spelling mistakes when you can't make a >sentence make sense with the help of a spell checker, something I do not use Try proving both irrelevancies . . . you are off topic, Tony.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 2 Dec 2023 21:50:49 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Off topic by a country mile.
On 2023-12-02, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:At the start of every government the media seek answers as to what the >>>>new government will do, and to get comments from as many new Ministers >>>>as possible. Some will be seeking to trigger a sacking, or to prompt a >>>>new MP to say something embarrassing. That feeding frenzy will last
on the head.
The MSM needs to be dismanteld by its own bias and replaced with some >>>>>> old-fashioned honest journalists.https://karldufresne.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-medias-war-on-new-government.html
"The message is clear. The mainstream media are sulking because they think >>>>>the voters elected the wrong government. They are angry and indignant that >>>>>despite all their efforts, New Zealand swung right on October 14."
In Trump's words, The election was stolen, and we have to fight like hell. >>>>
for as long as it is entertaining. Some Prime Ministers are better
than others at avoiding it - Key, Clarke and Ardern did quite well - >>>>Oppositions are similarly being probed - we know that National had >>>>problems in the term after Ardern became PM; Labour had a difficult >>>>time for the term after Key became PM. Scalp hunters are seeking prey >>>>from both government and opposition - the major stories at present are >>>>about conflict between Peters, Sinclair and Luxon as leaders of the
new government
Not at all - I cannot confirm that du Fresne hit any nail, butt he >>mainstream media are clearly not sulking
Nobody has evidenced that they are supporting one party over another.- they are delighted to have
new people to interview and report, new stories to tell, new ideas to >>investigate, and new MPs to catch out. They are clearly finding out
about the new government, which is getting at times more publicity
than they probably want; the media will report dissent much faster
than agreement, uncertainty more than clarity, and a reporter that can
goad an MP into saying something they should not have that is extra
kudos to the reporter! They are not supporting one party over others, >Nonsense - you cannot evidence that.
From above: "In Trump's words, The election was stolen, and we have tothey are seeking conflict as that makes for a better story - and withYou really are a rude bugger.
three parties the scope for reporting or even creating conflict
appears to be there, courtesy of the three wise monkeys at the top.
Do stop wandering back to your childhood fantsies. Who said the elction was >stolen?
If you think the election was stolen then who are you accusing of
stealing?
And if they did why would you ask that question of someone who is on record of >hating the lies and anti-domocratic policies of the last government?just following our logic, Tony.
Your ability to make sense is about as good as your inability to follow logic. Perhaps you prefer the dominatrix policies of the new government . . .
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Provide some justification for one or both of "The mainstream media
On Sun, 3 Dec 2023 01:35:37 -0000 (UTC), TonyPlease rewrite that sentence in English. My topic and I am on it.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 2 Dec 2023 23:25:17 -0000 (UTC), TonyIn future don't you dare accuse me of spelling mistakes when you can't make a
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 2 Dec 2023 21:50:49 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Off topic by a country mile.
On 2023-12-02, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
on the head.
The MSM needs to be dismanteld by its own bias and replaced with some >>>>>>>> old-fashioned honest journalists.https://karldufresne.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-medias-war-on-new-government.html
"The message is clear. The mainstream media are sulking because they >>>>>>>think
the voters elected the wrong government. They are angry and indignant >>>>>>>that
despite all their efforts, New Zealand swung right on October 14." >>>>>>>
In Trump's words, The election was stolen, and we have to fight like hell.
At the start of every government the media seek answers as to what the >>>>>>new government will do, and to get comments from as many new Ministers >>>>>>as possible. Some will be seeking to trigger a sacking, or to prompt a >>>>>>new MP to say something embarrassing. That feeding frenzy will last >>>>>>for as long as it is entertaining. Some Prime Ministers are better >>>>>>than others at avoiding it - Key, Clarke and Ardern did quite well - >>>>>>Oppositions are similarly being probed - we know that National had >>>>>>problems in the term after Ardern became PM; Labour had a difficult >>>>>>time for the term after Key became PM. Scalp hunters are seeking prey >>>>>>from both government and opposition - the major stories at present are >>>>>>about conflict between Peters, Sinclair and Luxon as leaders of the >>>>>>new government
Not at all - I cannot confirm that du Fresne hit any nail, butt he >>>>mainstream media are clearly not sulking
sentence make sense with the help of a spell checker, something I do not use >>Try proving both irrelevancies . . . you are off topic, Tony.
And you have not provided any evidence that they are . . . (Hosking
- they are delighted to have
new people to interview and report, new stories to tell, new ideas to >>>>investigate, and new MPs to catch out. They are clearly finding out >>>>about the new government, which is getting at times more publicity
than they probably want; the media will report dissent much faster
than agreement, uncertainty more than clarity, and a reporter that can >>>>goad an MP into saying something they should not have that is extra >>>>kudos to the reporter! They are not supporting one party over others, >>>Nonsense - you cannot evidence that.
Nobody has evidenced that they (the media) are supporting one partyNobody has evidenced that they are supporting one party over another.du Fresne has made sense, you have not.
You quoted it - why did you do that if you do not believe it?I did not write that. Get on topic.
From above: "In Trump's words, The election was stolen, and we have to >>fight like hell."they are seeking conflict as that makes for a better story - and with >>>>three parties the scope for reporting or even creating conflictYou really are a rude bugger.
appears to be there, courtesy of the three wise monkeys at the top.
Do stop wandering back to your childhood fantsies. Who said the elction was >>>stolen?
If you think the election was stolen then who are you accusing of >>>>stealing?
Oh you poor wee sensitive soul - perhaps you should think about theJust because you like dominatrix experiences does not mean that I do.
And if they did why would you ask that question of someone who is on record >>>ofPerhaps you prefer the dominatrix policies of the new government . . .
hating the lies and anti-domocratic policies of the last government?
Your ability to make sense is about as good as your inability to follow logic.
just following our logic, Tony.
You disgust me. Piss off you perverted little freak.
On Sun, 3 Dec 2023 01:35:37 -0000 (UTC), TonyPlease rewrite that sentence in English. My topic and I am on it.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 2 Dec 2023 23:25:17 -0000 (UTC), TonyIn future don't you dare accuse me of spelling mistakes when you can't make a >>sentence make sense with the help of a spell checker, something I do not use >Try proving both irrelevancies . . . you are off topic, Tony.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 2 Dec 2023 21:50:49 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Off topic by a country mile.
On 2023-12-02, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
on the head.
The MSM needs to be dismanteld by its own bias and replaced with some >>>>>>> old-fashioned honest journalists.https://karldufresne.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-medias-war-on-new-government.html
"The message is clear. The mainstream media are sulking because they >>>>>>think
the voters elected the wrong government. They are angry and indignant >>>>>>that
despite all their efforts, New Zealand swung right on October 14."
In Trump's words, The election was stolen, and we have to fight like hell.
At the start of every government the media seek answers as to what the >>>>>new government will do, and to get comments from as many new Ministers >>>>>as possible. Some will be seeking to trigger a sacking, or to prompt a >>>>>new MP to say something embarrassing. That feeding frenzy will last >>>>>for as long as it is entertaining. Some Prime Ministers are better >>>>>than others at avoiding it - Key, Clarke and Ardern did quite well - >>>>>Oppositions are similarly being probed - we know that National had >>>>>problems in the term after Ardern became PM; Labour had a difficult >>>>>time for the term after Key became PM. Scalp hunters are seeking prey >>>>>from both government and opposition - the major stories at present are >>>>>about conflict between Peters, Sinclair and Luxon as leaders of the >>>>>new government
Not at all - I cannot confirm that du Fresne hit any nail, butt he >>>mainstream media are clearly not sulking
du Fresne has made sense, you have not.Nobody has evidenced that they are supporting one party over another.- they are delighted to have
new people to interview and report, new stories to tell, new ideas to >>>investigate, and new MPs to catch out. They are clearly finding out
about the new government, which is getting at times more publicity
than they probably want; the media will report dissent much faster
than agreement, uncertainty more than clarity, and a reporter that can >>>goad an MP into saying something they should not have that is extra
kudos to the reporter! They are not supporting one party over others, >>Nonsense - you cannot evidence that.
I did not write that. Get on topic.From above: "In Trump's words, The election was stolen, and we have tothey are seeking conflict as that makes for a better story - and with >>>three parties the scope for reporting or even creating conflictYou really are a rude bugger.
appears to be there, courtesy of the three wise monkeys at the top.
Do stop wandering back to your childhood fantsies. Who said the elction was >>stolen?
If you think the election was stolen then who are you accusing of >>>stealing?
fight like hell."
Just because you like dominatrix experiences does not mean that I do.And if they did why would you ask that question of someone who is on record >>ofPerhaps you prefer the dominatrix policies of the new government . . .
hating the lies and anti-domocratic policies of the last government?
Your ability to make sense is about as good as your inability to follow logic.
just following our logic, Tony.
On Sun, 3 Dec 2023 03:24:24 -0000 (UTC), TonyNo, I didn't write that.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Provide some justification for one or both of "The mainstream media
On Sun, 3 Dec 2023 01:35:37 -0000 (UTC), TonyPlease rewrite that sentence in English. My topic and I am on it.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Try proving both irrelevancies . . . you are off topic, Tony.
On Sat, 2 Dec 2023 23:25:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:In future don't you dare accuse me of spelling mistakes when you can't make >>>>a
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 2 Dec 2023 21:50:49 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Off topic by a country mile.
On 2023-12-02, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
on the head.
The MSM needs to be dismanteld by its own bias and replaced with some >>>>>>>>> old-fashioned honest journalists.https://karldufresne.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-medias-war-on-new-government.html
"The message is clear. The mainstream media are sulking because they >>>>>>>>think
the voters elected the wrong government. They are angry and indignant >>>>>>>>that
despite all their efforts, New Zealand swung right on October 14." >>>>>>>>
In Trump's words, The election was stolen, and we have to fight like >>>>>>>>hell.
At the start of every government the media seek answers as to what the >>>>>>>new government will do, and to get comments from as many new Ministers >>>>>>>as possible. Some will be seeking to trigger a sacking, or to prompt a >>>>>>>new MP to say something embarrassing. That feeding frenzy will last >>>>>>>for as long as it is entertaining. Some Prime Ministers are better >>>>>>>than others at avoiding it - Key, Clarke and Ardern did quite well - >>>>>>>Oppositions are similarly being probed - we know that National had >>>>>>>problems in the term after Ardern became PM; Labour had a difficult >>>>>>>time for the term after Key became PM. Scalp hunters are seeking prey >>>>>>>from both government and opposition - the major stories at present are >>>>>>>about conflict between Peters, Sinclair and Luxon as leaders of the >>>>>>>new government
Not at all - I cannot confirm that du Fresne hit any nail, butt he >>>>>mainstream media are clearly not sulking
sentence make sense with the help of a spell checker, something I do not use
are sulking because they think the voters elected the wrong
government. " or "They are angry and indignant that despite all their >efforts, New Zealand swung right on October 14."
du Fresne has made sense, you have not.And you have not provided any evidence that they are . . . (Hosking
- they are delighted to have
new people to interview and report, new stories to tell, new ideas to >>>>>investigate, and new MPs to catch out. They are clearly finding out >>>>>about the new government, which is getting at times more publicity >>>>>than they probably want; the media will report dissent much faster >>>>>than agreement, uncertainty more than clarity, and a reporter that can >>>>>goad an MP into saying something they should not have that is extra >>>>>kudos to the reporter! They are not supporting one party over others, >>>>Nonsense - you cannot evidence that.
excepted, but I don't know if he is still doing his column)
Nobody has evidenced that they (the media) are supporting one partyNobody has evidenced that they are supporting one party over another.du Fresne has made sense, you have not.
over another.
I did not quote it - you are an idiot.You quoted it - why did you do that if you do not believe it?I did not write that. Get on topic.
From above: "In Trump's words, The election was stolen, and we have to >>>fight like hell."they are seeking conflict as that makes for a better story - and with >>>>>three parties the scope for reporting or even creating conflict >>>>>appears to be there, courtesy of the three wise monkeys at the top. >>>>You really are a rude bugger.Do stop wandering back to your childhood fantsies. Who said the elction was >>>>stolen?
If you think the election was stolen then who are you accusing of >>>>>stealing?
I always post what I believe to be true, unlike you.Oh you poor wee sensitive soul - perhaps you should think about theJust because you like dominatrix experiences does not mean that I do.
And if they did why would you ask that question of someone who is on record >>>>ofPerhaps you prefer the dominatrix policies of the new government . . . >>>just following our logic, Tony.
hating the lies and anti-domocratic policies of the last government? >>>>Your ability to make sense is about as good as your inability to follow >>>>logic.
You disgust me. Piss off you perverted little freak.
truth of what you post . . .
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