Paywalled of course, but the url gives the gist of the story . . .Meaningless unless you are a Labour supporter and then it is weak poitical ammunition. Hint - Labour need a lifetime of achievements, not political rhetoric.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/major-international-economic-consultancy-downgrades-new-zealands-political-stability-to-lowest-since-financial-crisis-citing-tensions-within-next-government/7NLN2LPZURAXTMNCE64G4SM7DU/
Paywalled of course, but the url gives the gist of the story . . .
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/major-international-economic-consultancy-downgrades-new-zealands-political-stability-to-lowest-since-financial-crisis-citing-tensions-within-next-government/7NLN2LPZURAXTMNCE64G4SM7DU/
Paywalled of course, but the url gives the gist of the story . . .
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 14:03:46 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/major-international-economic-consultancy-downgrades-new-zealands-political-stability-to-lowest-since-financial-crisis-citing-tensions-within-next-government/7NLN2LPZURAXTMNCE64G4SM7DU/
Paywalled of course, but the url gives the gist of the story . . .
The 30,000 or so party voters that voted NZF to get it over the 5%
threshold do indeed have a lot to answer for. If NZF were not in
Parliament we would have had a National/ACT government long ago.
Negotiating coalition agreements is what Winston drags out for maximum
reward from minimal electoral success.
--That is exactly correct. He has in the past done some good but now is almost entirely damaging.
Crash McBash
The 30,000 or so party voters that voted NZF to get it over the 5%
threshold do indeed have a lot to answer for.
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 14:03:46 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:That is exactly correct. He has in the past done some good but now is almost >entirely damaging.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/major-international-economic-consultancy-downgrades-new-zealands-political-stability-to-lowest-since-financial-crisis-citing-tensions-within-next-government/7NLN2LPZURAXTMNCE64G4SM7DU/
Paywalled of course, but the url gives the gist of the story . . .
The 30,000 or so party voters that voted NZF to get it over the 5% >>threshold do indeed have a lot to answer for. If NZF were not in >>Parliament we would have had a National/ACT government long ago. >>Negotiating coalition agreements is what Winston drags out for maximum >>reward from minimal electoral success.
--
Crash McBash
wn@qwert.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:I certainly support the second of those two aims, however no others that I know
The 30,000 or so party voters that voted NZF to get it over the 5% >>>threshold do indeed have a lot to answer for.
That's me, and I look forward to what Winston has delivered. The end
of fluoridation and pardoning of the covid protesters would be good.
of. Not enough to support his party.
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 07:43:28 -0000 (UTC), TonyWow, well done - for most people that would be a redundant statement - for you it borders on brilliance (relatively of course).
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 14:03:46 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:That is exactly correct. He has in the past done some good but now is almost >>entirely damaging.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/major-international-economic-consultancy-downgrades-new-zealands-political-stability-to-lowest-since-financial-crisis-citing-tensions-within-next-government/7NLN2LPZURAXTMNCE64G4SM7DU/
Paywalled of course, but the url gives the gist of the story . . .
The 30,000 or so party voters that voted NZF to get it over the 5% >>>threshold do indeed have a lot to answer for. If NZF were not in >>>Parliament we would have had a National/ACT government long ago. >>>Negotiating coalition agreements is what Winston drags out for maximum >>>reward from minimal electoral success.
--
Crash McBash
Those that voted for NZ First may not agree.
In what way has he beenI didn't mention the election - why is it such a sour memory?
damaging since the election?
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:I certainly support the second of those two aims, however no others that I know of. Not enough to support his party.
The 30,000 or so party voters that voted NZF to get it over the 5% >>threshold do indeed have a lot to answer for.
That's me, and I look forward to what Winston has delivered. The end
of fluoridation and pardoning of the covid protesters would be good.
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
The 30,000 or so party voters that voted NZF to get it over the 5% >>threshold do indeed have a lot to answer for.
That's me, and I look forward to what Winston has delivered. The end
of fluoridation and pardoning of the covid protesters would be good.
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:34:16 GMT, wn@qwert.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:So you believe concrete throwing people were protesting against covid but nobody was arrested for protesting against covid. Make you mind up. Additionally your sarcasm is noted.
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:I can't see National or ACT agreeing to pardon people that threw
The 30,000 or so party voters that voted NZF to get it over the 5% >>>threshold do indeed have a lot to answer for.
That's me, and I look forward to what Winston has delivered. The end
of fluoridation and pardoning of the covid protesters would be good.
concrete pavers at police. Nobody got arrested for protesting against
covid - although I cannot imagine anyone supporting the virus . . .
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 22:21:49 -0000 (UTC), TonyAh OK, so you changed your mind - good on you. Of course there were protests against covid responses and some protesters were arrested.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:There were only a small number of people that appeared to welcome
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:34:16 GMT, wn@qwert.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:So you believe concrete throwing people were protesting against covid but >>nobody was arrested for protesting against covid. Make you mind up. >>Additionally your sarcasm is noted.
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:I can't see National or ACT agreeing to pardon people that threw
The 30,000 or so party voters that voted NZF to get it over the 5% >>>>>threshold do indeed have a lot to answer for.
That's me, and I look forward to what Winston has delivered. The end >>>>of fluoridation and pardoning of the covid protesters would be good.
concrete pavers at police. Nobody got arrested for protesting against >>>covid - although I cannot imagine anyone supporting the virus . . .
covid - some thought it related to their religion for example, but the
vast majority wanted it gone, wanted to be vaccinated, and wanted the >government to save the lives of them and their families - the
government did better at that than virtually any other country. Nobody
was arrested or convicted for protesting against covid, so there is no
need for any pardons.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:There were only a small number of people that appeared to welcome
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:34:16 GMT, wn@qwert.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:So you believe concrete throwing people were protesting against covid but >nobody was arrested for protesting against covid. Make you mind up. >Additionally your sarcasm is noted.
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:I can't see National or ACT agreeing to pardon people that threw
The 30,000 or so party voters that voted NZF to get it over the 5% >>>>threshold do indeed have a lot to answer for.
That's me, and I look forward to what Winston has delivered. The end
of fluoridation and pardoning of the covid protesters would be good.
concrete pavers at police. Nobody got arrested for protesting against
covid - although I cannot imagine anyone supporting the virus . . .
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Those arrested for throwing concrete were rioting - they were not
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:34:16 GMT, wn@qwert.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:So you believe concrete throwing people were protesting against covid but >nobody was arrested for protesting against covid. Make you mind up. >Additionally your sarcasm is noted.
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:I can't see National or ACT agreeing to pardon people that threw
The 30,000 or so party voters that voted NZF to get it over the 5% >>>>threshold do indeed have a lot to answer for.
That's me, and I look forward to what Winston has delivered. The end
of fluoridation and pardoning of the covid protesters would be good.
concrete pavers at police. Nobody got arrested for protesting against
covid - although I cannot imagine anyone supporting the virus . . .
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 22:21:49 -0000 (UTC), TonySo you say, but at best that is a guess and most likely deliberate misinformation.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Those arrested for throwing concrete were rioting - they were not
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:34:16 GMT, wn@qwert.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:So you believe concrete throwing people were protesting against covid but >>nobody was arrested for protesting against covid. Make you mind up. >>Additionally your sarcasm is noted.
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:I can't see National or ACT agreeing to pardon people that threw
The 30,000 or so party voters that voted NZF to get it over the 5% >>>>>threshold do indeed have a lot to answer for.
That's me, and I look forward to what Winston has delivered. The end >>>>of fluoridation and pardoning of the covid protesters would be good.
concrete pavers at police. Nobody got arrested for protesting against >>>covid - although I cannot imagine anyone supporting the virus . . .
covid protesters.
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