This goes hand in hand with the most staggering decline in education system >performance ever,I am sure your question was rhetorical but just in case - No!
Is there anything the Labour government didn't fuck up in their last term?
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote: >>https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2023/11/most_staggering_decline_in_health_system_performance_ever.html
I am sure your question was rhetorical but just in case - No!
This goes hand in hand with the most staggering decline in education system >>performance ever,
Is there anything the Labour government didn't fuck up in their last term?
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 00:07:50 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote: >>>https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2023/11/most_staggering_decline_in_health_system_performance_ever.html
This goes hand in hand with the most staggering decline in education system >>>performance ever,
Is there anything the Labour government didn't fuck up in their last term? >>I am sure your question was rhetorical but just in case - No!
As far as health statistics are concerned, the pressure of workA useful excuse for a useless past government.
through Covid has affected service provision in most countries - we
have been badly hit due to insufficient training and recruitment.
Again Covid continues to use a lot of resources - wards need to be
closed to other patients for example, and medical staff are
susceptible to infection themselves.
National have promised to turn this around - the only question is howA silly question from a useless person.
much worse it will get before it starts getting better - will it hit
peak problems in around three years time?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:All totally on-topic. JohnO introduced the subject of education
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 00:07:50 -0000 (UTC), TonyOff topic nonsense removed.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2023/11/most_staggering_decline_in_health_system_performance_ever.html
This goes hand in hand with the most staggering decline in education system >>>>performance ever,
Is there anything the Labour government didn't fuck up in their last term? >>>I am sure your question was rhetorical but just in case - No!
A useful excuse for a useless past government.
As far as health statistics are concerned, the pressure of work
through Covid has affected service provision in most countries - we
have been badly hit due to insufficient training and recruitment.
Again Covid continues to use a lot of resources - wards need to be
closed to other patients for example, and medical staff are
susceptible to infection themselves.
A silly question from a useless person.
National have promised to turn this around - the only question is how
much worse it will get before it starts getting better - will it hit
peak problems in around three years time?
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 06:05:49 -0000 (UTC), TonyIrrelevance removed again.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:All totally on-topic. JohnO introduced the subject of education
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 00:07:50 -0000 (UTC), TonyOff topic nonsense removed.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2023/11/most_staggering_decline_in_health_system_performance_ever.html
This goes hand in hand with the most staggering decline in education >>>>>system
performance ever,
Is there anything the Labour government didn't fuck up in their last term? >>>>I am sure your question was rhetorical but just in case - No!
performance; I commented on both education and health.
A useful excuse for a useless past government.
As far as health statistics are concerned, the pressure of work
through Covid has affected service provision in most countries - we
have been badly hit due to insufficient training and recruitment.
Again Covid continues to use a lot of resources - wards need to be
closed to other patients for example, and medical staff are
susceptible to infection themselves.
A silly question from a useless person.
National have promised to turn this around - the only question is how >>>much worse it will get before it starts getting better - will it hit
peak problems in around three years time?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 06:05:49 -0000 (UTC), TonyIrrelevance removed again.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:All totally on-topic. JohnO introduced the subject of education >>performance; I commented on both education and health.
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 00:07:50 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Off topic nonsense removed.
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2023/11/most_staggering_decline_in_health_system_performance_ever.html
I am sure your question was rhetorical but just in case - No!
This goes hand in hand with the most staggering decline in education >>>>>>system
performance ever,
Is there anything the Labour government didn't fuck up in their last term?
A useful excuse for a useless past government.
As far as health statistics are concerned, the pressure of work
through Covid has affected service provision in most countries - we >>>>have been badly hit due to insufficient training and recruitment.
Again Covid continues to use a lot of resources - wards need to be >>>>closed to other patients for example, and medical staff are
susceptible to infection themselves.
A silly question from a useless person.
National have promised to turn this around - the only question is how >>>>much worse it will get before it starts getting better - will it hit >>>>peak problems in around three years time?
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 07:31:41 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are delusional - you are the off topic poster in this and most threads.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 06:05:49 -0000 (UTC), TonyIrrelevance removed again.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:All totally on-topic. JohnO introduced the subject of education >>>performance; I commented on both education and health.
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 00:07:50 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Off topic nonsense removed.
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2023/11/most_staggering_decline_in_health_system_performance_ever.html
I am sure your question was rhetorical but just in case - No!
This goes hand in hand with the most staggering decline in education >>>>>>>system
performance ever,
Is there anything the Labour government didn't fuck up in their last >>>>>>>term?
A useful excuse for a useless past government.
As far as health statistics are concerned, the pressure of work >>>>>through Covid has affected service provision in most countries - we >>>>>have been badly hit due to insufficient training and recruitment. >>>>>Again Covid continues to use a lot of resources - wards need to be >>>>>closed to other patients for example, and medical staff are >>>>>susceptible to infection themselves.
A silly question from a useless person.
National have promised to turn this around - the only question is how >>>>>much worse it will get before it starts getting better - will it hit >>>>>peak problems in around three years time?
Yet there you still are posting off topic . . .
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 00:07:50 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote: >>https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2023/11/most_staggering_decline_in_health_system_performance_ever.htmlTony does nothing that is not rhetorical - and usually wrong.
This goes hand in hand with the most staggering decline in education system >>performance ever,
Is there anything the Labour government didn't fuck up in their last term? >I am sure your question was rhetorical but just in case - No!
Kiwiblog does like it's falsities - they know that absences from
schools have been and still are largely the result of Covid and the
desire to prevent cross infections - and as Kiwiblog readers may not
know, we are still getting relatively high rates of Covid infection
(through water testing rather than through self-reporting), but also confirmed by continuing levels of hospital admissions and deaths.
As far as health statistics are concerned, the pressure of work
through Covid has affected service provision in most countries - we
have been badly hit due to insufficient training and recruitment.
Again Covid continues to use a lot of resources - wards need to be
closed to other patients for example, and medical staff are
susceptible to infection themselves.
National have promised to turn this around - the only question is how
much worse it will get before it starts getting better - will it hit
peak problems in around three years time?
On Thursday, 16 November 2023 at 17:09:20 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:The article gives selected extracts from a report, and David Farrar
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 00:07:50 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:Tony does nothing that is not rhetorical - and usually wrong.
https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2023/11/most_staggering_decline_in_health_system_performance_ever.html
This goes hand in hand with the most staggering decline in education system
performance ever,
Is there anything the Labour government didn't fuck up in their last term? >> >I am sure your question was rhetorical but just in case - No!
Kiwiblog does like it's falsities - they know that absences from
They are Michael Hundleby's words, not Kiwiblogs you dimwit.
In the last report on Covid there were 5947 new cases, and 5828 (not necessarily the same cases) recovered, with 38 deaths. By comparison,schools have been and still are largely the result of Covid and the
COVID is long gone and it's over-reactive management was by the same government anyway.
desire to prevent cross infections - and as Kiwiblog readers may not
know, we are still getting relatively high rates of Covid infection
(through water testing rather than through self-reporting), but also
confirmed by continuing levels of hospital admissions and deaths.
As far as health statistics are concerned, the pressure of work
through Covid has affected service provision in most countries - we
have been badly hit due to insufficient training and recruitment.
Again Covid continues to use a lot of resources - wards need to be
closed to other patients for example, and medical staff are
susceptible to infection themselves.
National have promised to turn this around - the only question is how
much worse it will get before it starts getting better - will it hit
peak problems in around three years time?
On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 20:55:03 -0800 (PST), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thursday, 16 November 2023 at 17:09:20 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 00:07:50 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:Tony does nothing that is not rhetorical - and usually wrong.
https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2023/11/most_staggering_decline_in_health_system_performance_ever.htmlI am sure your question was rhetorical but just in case - No!
This goes hand in hand with the most staggering decline in education system
performance ever,
Is there anything the Labour government didn't fuck up in their last term?
Kiwiblog does like it's falsities - they know that absences from
They are Michael Hundleby's words, not Kiwiblogs you dimwit.The article gives selected extracts from a report, and David Farrar
added his own commentary.
schools have been and still are largely the result of Covid and the
COVID is long gone and it's over-reactive management was by the same government anyway.In the last report on Covid there were 5947 new cases, and 5828 (not necessarily the same cases) recovered, with 38 deaths. By comparison,
road deaths for the whole month of October 2023 were 26 - are you
claiming that road deaths are long gone?
desire to prevent cross infections - and as Kiwiblog readers may not
know, we are still getting relatively high rates of Covid infection
(through water testing rather than through self-reporting), but also
confirmed by continuing levels of hospital admissions and deaths.
As far as health statistics are concerned, the pressure of work
through Covid has affected service provision in most countries - we
have been badly hit due to insufficient training and recruitment.
Again Covid continues to use a lot of resources - wards need to be
closed to other patients for example, and medical staff are
susceptible to infection themselves.
National have promised to turn this around - the only question is how
much worse it will get before it starts getting better - will it hit
peak problems in around three years time?
On Sunday, 19 November 2023 at 13:16:05 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 20:55:03 -0800 (PST), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thursday, 16 November 2023 at 17:09:20 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:The article gives selected extracts from a report, and David Farrar
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 00:07:50 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:Tony does nothing that is not rhetorical - and usually wrong.
https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2023/11/most_staggering_decline_in_health_system_performance_ever.htmlI am sure your question was rhetorical but just in case - No!
This goes hand in hand with the most staggering decline in education system
performance ever,
Is there anything the Labour government didn't fuck up in their last term?
Kiwiblog does like it's falsities - they know that absences from
They are Michael Hundleby's words, not Kiwiblogs you dimwit.
added his own commentary.
In the last report on Covid there were 5947 new cases, and 5828 (not
schools have been and still are largely the result of Covid and the
COVID is long gone and it's over-reactive management was by the same government anyway.
necessarily the same cases) recovered, with 38 deaths. By comparison,
road deaths for the whole month of October 2023 were 26 - are you
claiming that road deaths are long gone?
No I am not, you dimwit. Road deaths are irrelevant to this discussion. But deflecting with irrelevancies is what you do.
desire to prevent cross infections - and as Kiwiblog readers may not
know, we are still getting relatively high rates of Covid infection
(through water testing rather than through self-reporting), but also
confirmed by continuing levels of hospital admissions and deaths.
As far as health statistics are concerned, the pressure of work
through Covid has affected service provision in most countries - we
have been badly hit due to insufficient training and recruitment.
Again Covid continues to use a lot of resources - wards need to be
closed to other patients for example, and medical staff are
susceptible to infection themselves.
National have promised to turn this around - the only question is how
much worse it will get before it starts getting better - will it hit
peak problems in around three years time?
On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 13:55:27 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>Comparing road deaths to covid is senseless.
wrote:
On Sunday, 19 November 2023 at 13:16:05 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 20:55:03 -0800 (PST), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thursday, 16 November 2023 at 17:09:20 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:The article gives selected extracts from a report, and David Farrar
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 00:07:50 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:Tony does nothing that is not rhetorical - and usually wrong.
I am sure your question was rhetorical but just in case - No!https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2023/11/most_staggering_decline_in_health_system_performance_ever.html
This goes hand in hand with the most staggering decline in education >>> >> >>system
performance ever,
Is there anything the Labour government didn't fuck up in their last >>> >> >>term?
Kiwiblog does like it's falsities - they know that absences from
They are Michael Hundleby's words, not Kiwiblogs you dimwit.
added his own commentary.
In the last report on Covid there were 5947 new cases, and 5828 (not
schools have been and still are largely the result of Covid and the
COVID is long gone and it's over-reactive management was by the same
government anyway.
necessarily the same cases) recovered, with 38 deaths. By comparison,
road deaths for the whole month of October 2023 were 26 - are you
claiming that road deaths are long gone?
No I am not, you dimwit. Road deaths are irrelevant to this discussion. But >>deflecting with irrelevancies is what you do.
If 38 deaths a week mean that the cause of those deaths have
disappeared, then at less than 6 deaths per week, road deaths are
relatively insignificant. Do you lie deliberately, or just think that
Covid deaths are not happening and do not matter to the families of
those affected?
It is not irrelevant - Covid is still keeping children away from
school, workers from their work, and keeping hospitals and undertakers
busy. You are the dimwit . . .
desire to prevent cross infections - and as Kiwiblog readers may not
know, we are still getting relatively high rates of Covid infection
(through water testing rather than through self-reporting), but also
confirmed by continuing levels of hospital admissions and deaths.
As far as health statistics are concerned, the pressure of work
through Covid has affected service provision in most countries - we
have been badly hit due to insufficient training and recruitment.
Again Covid continues to use a lot of resources - wards need to be
closed to other patients for example, and medical staff are
susceptible to infection themselves.
National have promised to turn this around - the only question is how >>> >> much worse it will get before it starts getting better - will it hit
peak problems in around three years time?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:I was demonstrating that your claim that COVID is long gone is
On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 13:55:27 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>wrote:Comparing road deaths to covid is senseless.
On Sunday, 19 November 2023 at 13:16:05 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 20:55:03 -0800 (PST), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thursday, 16 November 2023 at 17:09:20 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:The article gives selected extracts from a report, and David Farrar
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 00:07:50 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:Tony does nothing that is not rhetorical - and usually wrong.
I am sure your question was rhetorical but just in case - No!https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2023/11/most_staggering_decline_in_health_system_performance_ever.html
This goes hand in hand with the most staggering decline in education >>>> >> >>system
performance ever,
Is there anything the Labour government didn't fuck up in their last >>>> >> >>term?
Kiwiblog does like it's falsities - they know that absences from
They are Michael Hundleby's words, not Kiwiblogs you dimwit.
added his own commentary.
In the last report on Covid there were 5947 new cases, and 5828 (not
schools have been and still are largely the result of Covid and the >>>> >COVID is long gone and it's over-reactive management was by the same
government anyway.
necessarily the same cases) recovered, with 38 deaths. By comparison,
road deaths for the whole month of October 2023 were 26 - are you
claiming that road deaths are long gone?
No I am not, you dimwit. Road deaths are irrelevant to this discussion. But >>>deflecting with irrelevancies is what you do.
If 38 deaths a week mean that the cause of those deaths have
disappeared, then at less than 6 deaths per week, road deaths are >>relatively insignificant. Do you lie deliberately, or just think that
Covid deaths are not happening and do not matter to the families of
those affected?
And in doing so you changed the thread direction - I am afraid you really are >the dimwit.
It is not irrelevant - Covid is still keeping children away from
school, workers from their work, and keeping hospitals and undertakers >>busy. You are the dimwit . . .
desire to prevent cross infections - and as Kiwiblog readers may not >>>> >> know, we are still getting relatively high rates of Covid infection >>>> >> (through water testing rather than through self-reporting), but also >>>> >> confirmed by continuing levels of hospital admissions and deaths.
As far as health statistics are concerned, the pressure of work
through Covid has affected service provision in most countries - we >>>> >> have been badly hit due to insufficient training and recruitment.
Again Covid continues to use a lot of resources - wards need to be
closed to other patients for example, and medical staff are
susceptible to infection themselves.
National have promised to turn this around - the only question is how >>>> >> much worse it will get before it starts getting better - will it hit >>>> >> peak problems in around three years time?
On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 23:22:01 -0000 (UTC), TonyDimwittedness demonstrated in spades.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:I was demonstrating that your claim that COVID is long gone is
On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 13:55:27 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>wrote:Comparing road deaths to covid is senseless.
On Sunday, 19 November 2023 at 13:16:05 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 20:55:03 -0800 (PST), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thursday, 16 November 2023 at 17:09:20 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:The article gives selected extracts from a report, and David Farrar
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 00:07:50 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Tony does nothing that is not rhetorical - and usually wrong.I am sure your question was rhetorical but just in case - No!https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2023/11/most_staggering_decline_in_health_system_performance_ever.html
This goes hand in hand with the most staggering decline in education >>>>> >> >>system
performance ever,
Is there anything the Labour government didn't fuck up in their last >>>>> >> >>term?
Kiwiblog does like it's falsities - they know that absences from
They are Michael Hundleby's words, not Kiwiblogs you dimwit.
added his own commentary.
In the last report on Covid there were 5947 new cases, and 5828 (not >>>>> necessarily the same cases) recovered, with 38 deaths. By comparison, >>>>> road deaths for the whole month of October 2023 were 26 - are you
schools have been and still are largely the result of Covid and the >>>>> >COVID is long gone and it's over-reactive management was by the same >>>>> >government anyway.
claiming that road deaths are long gone?
No I am not, you dimwit. Road deaths are irrelevant to this discussion. But >>>>deflecting with irrelevancies is what you do.
If 38 deaths a week mean that the cause of those deaths have
disappeared, then at less than 6 deaths per week, road deaths are >>>relatively insignificant. Do you lie deliberately, or just think that >>>Covid deaths are not happening and do not matter to the families of
those affected?
ridiculous. That you cannot understand such a simple comparison does
indeed indicate that you have more dim than wit
And in doing so you changed the thread direction - I am afraid you really are >>the dimwit.
It is not irrelevant - Covid is still keeping children away from
school, workers from their work, and keeping hospitals and undertakers >>>busy. You are the dimwit . . .
desire to prevent cross infections - and as Kiwiblog readers may not >>>>> >> know, we are still getting relatively high rates of Covid infection >>>>> >> (through water testing rather than through self-reporting), but also >>>>> >> confirmed by continuing levels of hospital admissions and deaths. >>>>> >>
As far as health statistics are concerned, the pressure of work
through Covid has affected service provision in most countries - we >>>>> >> have been badly hit due to insufficient training and recruitment. >>>>> >> Again Covid continues to use a lot of resources - wards need to be >>>>> >> closed to other patients for example, and medical staff are
susceptible to infection themselves.
National have promised to turn this around - the only question is how >>>>> >> much worse it will get before it starts getting better - will it hit >>>>> >> peak problems in around three years time?
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 02:27:59 -0000 (UTC), TonyWaht absolute garbage. You are squirming. You accused me of sating "I was demonstrating that your claim that COVID is long gone is ridiculous."
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 23:22:01 -0000 (UTC), TonyDimwittedness demonstrated in spades.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:I was demonstrating that your claim that COVID is long gone is >>>ridiculous. That you cannot understand such a simple comparison does >>>indeed indicate that you have more dim than wit
On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 13:55:27 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>>>wrote:Comparing road deaths to covid is senseless.
On Sunday, 19 November 2023 at 13:16:05 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 20:55:03 -0800 (PST), JohnO <john...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On Thursday, 16 November 2023 at 17:09:20 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>>> >> On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 00:07:50 -0000 (UTC), TonyThe article gives selected extracts from a report, and David Farrar >>>>>>> added his own commentary.
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:They are Michael Hundleby's words, not Kiwiblogs you dimwit.
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Kiwiblog does like it's falsities - they know that absences from >>>>>>> >I am sure your question was rhetorical but just in case - No! >>>>>>> >> Tony does nothing that is not rhetorical - and usually wrong. >>>>>>> >>https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2023/11/most_staggering_decline_in_health_system_performance_ever.html
This goes hand in hand with the most staggering decline in
education
system
performance ever,
Is there anything the Labour government didn't fuck up in their >>>>>>> >> >>last
term?
In the last report on Covid there were 5947 new cases, and 5828 (not >>>>>>> necessarily the same cases) recovered, with 38 deaths. By comparison, >>>>>>> road deaths for the whole month of October 2023 were 26 - are you >>>>>>> claiming that road deaths are long gone?
schools have been and still are largely the result of Covid and the >>>>>>> >COVID is long gone and it's over-reactive management was by the same >>>>>>> >government anyway.
No I am not, you dimwit. Road deaths are irrelevant to this discussion. >>>>>>But
deflecting with irrelevancies is what you do.
If 38 deaths a week mean that the cause of those deaths have >>>>>disappeared, then at less than 6 deaths per week, road deaths are >>>>>relatively insignificant. Do you lie deliberately, or just think that >>>>>Covid deaths are not happening and do not matter to the families of >>>>>those affected?
All you demonstrated was that you cannot understand how to use a newsgroup - >>you see i did not make any such claim.
That was another poster.
Do take some lessons in comprehension.
You said: "Comparing road deaths to covid is senseless." - and I
responded to that to explain why I had raised the issue of road deaths
- yes it was a claim originally made by JohnO - but your post made it
clear that you agreed with him and were similarly confused and
deluded.
Another lie - of course you changed direction. You are dimwitted on your best days.No change in the direction of the thread - that just confirms that youAnd in doing so you changed the thread direction - I am afraid you really >>>>are
the dimwit.
lacked understanding
It is not irrelevant - Covid is still keeping children away from >>>>>school, workers from their work, and keeping hospitals and undertakers >>>>>busy. You are the dimwit . . .
desire to prevent cross infections - and as Kiwiblog readers may not >>>>>>> >> know, we are still getting relatively high rates of Covid infection >>>>>>> >> (through water testing rather than through self-reporting), but also >>>>>>> >> confirmed by continuing levels of hospital admissions and deaths. >>>>>>> >>
As far as health statistics are concerned, the pressure of work >>>>>>> >> through Covid has affected service provision in most countries - we >>>>>>> >> have been badly hit due to insufficient training and recruitment. >>>>>>> >> Again Covid continues to use a lot of resources - wards need to be >>>>>>> >> closed to other patients for example, and medical staff are
susceptible to infection themselves.
National have promised to turn this around - the only question is >>>>>>> >>how
much worse it will get before it starts getting better - will it hit >>>>>>> >> peak problems in around three years time?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 02:27:59 -0000 (UTC), TonyWaht absolute garbage. You are squirming. You accused me of sating "I was >demonstrating that your claim that COVID is long gone is ridiculous." Correction you accused me of saying " COVID is long gone". I did not nor did I support that statement. Now really piss off.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 23:22:01 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Dimwittedness demonstrated in spades.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:I was demonstrating that your claim that COVID is long gone is >>>>ridiculous. That you cannot understand such a simple comparison does >>>>indeed indicate that you have more dim than wit
On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 13:55:27 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>>>>wrote:Comparing road deaths to covid is senseless.
On Sunday, 19 November 2023 at 13:16:05 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 20:55:03 -0800 (PST), JohnO <john...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On Thursday, 16 November 2023 at 17:09:20 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>>>> >> On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 00:07:50 -0000 (UTC), TonyThe article gives selected extracts from a report, and David Farrar >>>>>>>> added his own commentary.
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:They are Michael Hundleby's words, not Kiwiblogs you dimwit.
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Kiwiblog does like it's falsities - they know that absences from >>>>>>>> >I am sure your question was rhetorical but just in case - No! >>>>>>>> >> Tony does nothing that is not rhetorical - and usually wrong. >>>>>>>> >>https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2023/11/most_staggering_decline_in_health_system_performance_ever.html
This goes hand in hand with the most staggering decline in >>>>>>>> >> >>education
system
performance ever,
Is there anything the Labour government didn't fuck up in their >>>>>>>> >> >>last
term?
In the last report on Covid there were 5947 new cases, and 5828 (not >>>>>>>> necessarily the same cases) recovered, with 38 deaths. By comparison, >>>>>>>> road deaths for the whole month of October 2023 were 26 - are you >>>>>>>> claiming that road deaths are long gone?
schools have been and still are largely the result of Covid and the >>>>>>>> >COVID is long gone and it's over-reactive management was by the same >>>>>>>> >government anyway.
No I am not, you dimwit. Road deaths are irrelevant to this discussion. >>>>>>>But
deflecting with irrelevancies is what you do.
If 38 deaths a week mean that the cause of those deaths have >>>>>>disappeared, then at less than 6 deaths per week, road deaths are >>>>>>relatively insignificant. Do you lie deliberately, or just think that >>>>>>Covid deaths are not happening and do not matter to the families of >>>>>>those affected?
All you demonstrated was that you cannot understand how to use a newsgroup - >>>you see i did not make any such claim.
That was another poster.
Do take some lessons in comprehension.
You said: "Comparing road deaths to covid is senseless." - and I
responded to that to explain why I had raised the issue of road deaths
- yes it was a claim originally made by JohnO - but your post made it
clear that you agreed with him and were similarly confused and
deluded.
I made no such claim - you got it wrong again. Now piss off you dimwit.
Another lie - of course you changed direction. You are dimwitted on your best >days.
No change in the direction of the thread - that just confirms that you >>lacked understandingAnd in doing so you changed the thread direction - I am afraid you really >>>>>are
the dimwit.
It is not irrelevant - Covid is still keeping children away from >>>>>>school, workers from their work, and keeping hospitals and undertakers >>>>>>busy. You are the dimwit . . .
desire to prevent cross infections - and as Kiwiblog readers may >>>>>>>> >>not
know, we are still getting relatively high rates of Covid infection >>>>>>>> >> (through water testing rather than through self-reporting), but >>>>>>>> >>also
confirmed by continuing levels of hospital admissions and deaths. >>>>>>>> >>
As far as health statistics are concerned, the pressure of work >>>>>>>> >> through Covid has affected service provision in most countries - we >>>>>>>> >> have been badly hit due to insufficient training and recruitment. >>>>>>>> >> Again Covid continues to use a lot of resources - wards need to be >>>>>>>> >> closed to other patients for example, and medical staff are >>>>>>>> >> susceptible to infection themselves.
National have promised to turn this around - the only question is >>>>>>>> >>how
much worse it will get before it starts getting better - will it >>>>>>>> >>hit
peak problems in around three years time?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 23:22:01 -0000 (UTC), TonyDimwittedness demonstrated in spades.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:I was demonstrating that your claim that COVID is long gone is
On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 13:55:27 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>>wrote:Comparing road deaths to covid is senseless.
On Sunday, 19 November 2023 at 13:16:05 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 20:55:03 -0800 (PST), JohnO <john...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On Thursday, 16 November 2023 at 17:09:20 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>> >> On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 00:07:50 -0000 (UTC), TonyThe article gives selected extracts from a report, and David Farrar >>>>>> added his own commentary.
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:They are Michael Hundleby's words, not Kiwiblogs you dimwit.
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Tony does nothing that is not rhetorical - and usually wrong.I am sure your question was rhetorical but just in case - No!https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2023/11/most_staggering_decline_in_health_system_performance_ever.html
This goes hand in hand with the most staggering decline in education
system
performance ever,
Is there anything the Labour government didn't fuck up in their last
term?
Kiwiblog does like it's falsities - they know that absences from >>>>>> >
In the last report on Covid there were 5947 new cases, and 5828 (not >>>>>> necessarily the same cases) recovered, with 38 deaths. By comparison, >>>>>> road deaths for the whole month of October 2023 were 26 - are you
schools have been and still are largely the result of Covid and the >>>>>> >COVID is long gone and it's over-reactive management was by the same >>>>>> >government anyway.
claiming that road deaths are long gone?
No I am not, you dimwit. Road deaths are irrelevant to this discussion. But
deflecting with irrelevancies is what you do.
If 38 deaths a week mean that the cause of those deaths have >>>>disappeared, then at less than 6 deaths per week, road deaths are >>>>relatively insignificant. Do you lie deliberately, or just think that >>>>Covid deaths are not happening and do not matter to the families of >>>>those affected?
ridiculous. That you cannot understand such a simple comparison does
indeed indicate that you have more dim than wit
All you demonstrated was that you cannot understand how to use a newsgroup - >you see i did not make any such claim.
That was another poster.
Do take some lessons in comprehension.
No change in the direction of the thread - that just confirms that youAnd in doing so you changed the thread direction - I am afraid you really are
the dimwit.
It is not irrelevant - Covid is still keeping children away from >>>>school, workers from their work, and keeping hospitals and undertakers >>>>busy. You are the dimwit . . .
desire to prevent cross infections - and as Kiwiblog readers may not >>>>>> >> know, we are still getting relatively high rates of Covid infection >>>>>> >> (through water testing rather than through self-reporting), but also >>>>>> >> confirmed by continuing levels of hospital admissions and deaths. >>>>>> >>
As far as health statistics are concerned, the pressure of work >>>>>> >> through Covid has affected service provision in most countries - we >>>>>> >> have been badly hit due to insufficient training and recruitment. >>>>>> >> Again Covid continues to use a lot of resources - wards need to be >>>>>> >> closed to other patients for example, and medical staff are
susceptible to infection themselves.
National have promised to turn this around - the only question is how >>>>>> >> much worse it will get before it starts getting better - will it hit >>>>>> >> peak problems in around three years time?
Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 02:27:59 -0000 (UTC), TonyWaht absolute garbage. You are squirming. You accused me of sating "I was >>demonstrating that your claim that COVID is long gone is ridiculous." >Correction you accused me of saying " COVID is long gone". I did not nor did I >support that statement. Now really piss off.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 23:22:01 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Dimwittedness demonstrated in spades.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:I was demonstrating that your claim that COVID is long gone is >>>>>ridiculous. That you cannot understand such a simple comparison does >>>>>indeed indicate that you have more dim than wit
On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 13:55:27 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>>>>>wrote:Comparing road deaths to covid is senseless.
On Sunday, 19 November 2023 at 13:16:05 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 20:55:03 -0800 (PST), JohnO <john...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Thursday, 16 November 2023 at 17:09:20 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>>>>> >> On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 00:07:50 -0000 (UTC), TonyIn the last report on Covid there were 5947 new cases, and 5828 (not >>>>>>>>> necessarily the same cases) recovered, with 38 deaths. By comparison, >>>>>>>>> road deaths for the whole month of October 2023 were 26 - are you >>>>>>>>> claiming that road deaths are long gone?
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:They are Michael Hundleby's words, not Kiwiblogs you dimwit. >>>>>>>>> The article gives selected extracts from a report, and David Farrar >>>>>>>>> added his own commentary.
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Kiwiblog does like it's falsities - they know that absences from >>>>>>>>> >I am sure your question was rhetorical but just in case - No! >>>>>>>>> >> Tony does nothing that is not rhetorical - and usually wrong. >>>>>>>>> >>https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2023/11/most_staggering_decline_in_health_system_performance_ever.html
This goes hand in hand with the most staggering decline in >>>>>>>>> >> >>education
system
performance ever,
Is there anything the Labour government didn't fuck up in their >>>>>>>>> >> >>last
term?
schools have been and still are largely the result of Covid and the
COVID is long gone and it's over-reactive management was by the same >>>>>>>>> >government anyway.
No I am not, you dimwit. Road deaths are irrelevant to this discussion. >>>>>>>>But
deflecting with irrelevancies is what you do.
If 38 deaths a week mean that the cause of those deaths have >>>>>>>disappeared, then at less than 6 deaths per week, road deaths are >>>>>>>relatively insignificant. Do you lie deliberately, or just think that >>>>>>>Covid deaths are not happening and do not matter to the families of >>>>>>>those affected?
All you demonstrated was that you cannot understand how to use a newsgroup -
you see i did not make any such claim.
That was another poster.
Do take some lessons in comprehension.
You said: "Comparing road deaths to covid is senseless." - and I >>>responded to that to explain why I had raised the issue of road deaths
- yes it was a claim originally made by JohnO - but your post made it >>>clear that you agreed with him and were similarly confused and
deluded.
I made no such claim - you got it wrong again. Now piss off you dimwit.
Another lie - of course you changed direction. You are dimwitted on your best >>days.
No change in the direction of the thread - that just confirms that you >>>lacked understandingAnd in doing so you changed the thread direction - I am afraid you really >>>>>>are
the dimwit.
It is not irrelevant - Covid is still keeping children away from >>>>>>>school, workers from their work, and keeping hospitals and undertakers >>>>>>>busy. You are the dimwit . . .
desire to prevent cross infections - and as Kiwiblog readers may >>>>>>>>> >>not
know, we are still getting relatively high rates of Covid infection
(through water testing rather than through self-reporting), but >>>>>>>>> >>also
confirmed by continuing levels of hospital admissions and deaths. >>>>>>>>> >>
As far as health statistics are concerned, the pressure of work >>>>>>>>> >> through Covid has affected service provision in most countries - we
have been badly hit due to insufficient training and recruitment. >>>>>>>>> >> Again Covid continues to use a lot of resources - wards need to be >>>>>>>>> >> closed to other patients for example, and medical staff are >>>>>>>>> >> susceptible to infection themselves.
National have promised to turn this around - the only question is >>>>>>>>> >>how
much worse it will get before it starts getting better - will it >>>>>>>>> >>hit
peak problems in around three years time?
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 04:10:29 -0000 (UTC), TonyClear to you becsue your self delusion is all consuming. Not clear to anybody else.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:support that statement. Now really piss off.
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 02:27:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Waht absolute garbage. You are squirming. You accused me of sating "I was >>>demonstrating that your claim that COVID is long gone is ridiculous." >>Correction you accused me of saying " COVID is long gone". I did not nor did >>I
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 23:22:01 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Dimwittedness demonstrated in spades.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:I was demonstrating that your claim that COVID is long gone is >>>>>>ridiculous. That you cannot understand such a simple comparison does >>>>>>indeed indicate that you have more dim than wit
On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 13:55:27 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>wrote:Comparing road deaths to covid is senseless.
On Sunday, 19 November 2023 at 13:16:05 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 20:55:03 -0800 (PST), JohnO <john...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Thursday, 16 November 2023 at 17:09:20 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 00:07:50 -0000 (UTC), TonyIn the last report on Covid there were 5947 new cases, and 5828 (not >>>>>>>>>> necessarily the same cases) recovered, with 38 deaths. By >>>>>>>>>>comparison,
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:They are Michael Hundleby's words, not Kiwiblogs you dimwit. >>>>>>>>>> The article gives selected extracts from a report, and David Farrar >>>>>>>>>> added his own commentary.
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Kiwiblog does like it's falsities - they know that absences from >>>>>>>>>> >I am sure your question was rhetorical but just in case - No! >>>>>>>>>> >> Tony does nothing that is not rhetorical - and usually wrong. >>>>>>>>>> >>https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2023/11/most_staggering_decline_in_health_system_performance_ever.html
This goes hand in hand with the most staggering decline in >>>>>>>>>> >> >>education
system
performance ever,
Is there anything the Labour government didn't fuck up in their >>>>>>>>>> >> >>last
term?
schools have been and still are largely the result of Covid and >>>>>>>>>> >>the
COVID is long gone and it's over-reactive management was by the >>>>>>>>>> >same
government anyway.
road deaths for the whole month of October 2023 were 26 - are you >>>>>>>>>> claiming that road deaths are long gone?
No I am not, you dimwit. Road deaths are irrelevant to this >>>>>>>>>discussion.
But
deflecting with irrelevancies is what you do.
If 38 deaths a week mean that the cause of those deaths have >>>>>>>>disappeared, then at less than 6 deaths per week, road deaths are >>>>>>>>relatively insignificant. Do you lie deliberately, or just think that >>>>>>>>Covid deaths are not happening and do not matter to the families of >>>>>>>>those affected?
All you demonstrated was that you cannot understand how to use a newsgroup >>>>>-
you see i did not make any such claim.
That was another poster.
Do take some lessons in comprehension.
You said: "Comparing road deaths to covid is senseless." - and I >>>>responded to that to explain why I had raised the issue of road deaths >>>>- yes it was a claim originally made by JohnO - but your post made it >>>>clear that you agreed with him and were similarly confused and
deluded.
You said: "Comparing road deaths to covid is senseless." - clearly you
were supporting the claim that Covid is long gone . . ., or just
lacked understanding of the statistics . . .
Now you find you have dug a hole you cannot get out of - all throughNo hole from me- You dug the hole and you are so bitter that your marxist government is gone that you are doubling down on your abusiveness.
your bitterness to all other posters except your mates JohnO and
JohnB.
I made no such claim - you got it wrong again. Now piss off you dimwit.
Another lie - of course you changed direction. You are dimwitted on your >>>best
No change in the direction of the thread - that just confirms that you >>>>lacked understandingAnd in doing so you changed the thread direction - I am afraid you >>>>>>>really
are
the dimwit.
days.
It is not irrelevant - Covid is still keeping children away from >>>>>>>>school, workers from their work, and keeping hospitals and undertakers >>>>>>>>busy. You are the dimwit . . .
desire to prevent cross infections - and as Kiwiblog readers may >>>>>>>>>> >>not
know, we are still getting relatively high rates of Covid >>>>>>>>>> >>infection
(through water testing rather than through self-reporting), but >>>>>>>>>> >>also
confirmed by continuing levels of hospital admissions and deaths. >>>>>>>>>> >>
As far as health statistics are concerned, the pressure of work >>>>>>>>>> >> through Covid has affected service provision in most countries - >>>>>>>>>> >>we
have been badly hit due to insufficient training and recruitment. >>>>>>>>>> >> Again Covid continues to use a lot of resources - wards need to >>>>>>>>>> >>be
closed to other patients for example, and medical staff are >>>>>>>>>> >> susceptible to infection themselves.
National have promised to turn this around - the only question is >>>>>>>>>> >>how
much worse it will get before it starts getting better - will it >>>>>>>>>> >>hit
peak problems in around three years time?
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