https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1719667085054275852?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1719667085054275852%7Ctwgr%5E4cd3cc6d39a74fa6d657c50e159347f8d508fa2c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
Yes, it is a small part of the science but the point is absolutely valid - we >have the same problem here - people who believe we have a problem but don't >understand the environemnt or the science.
https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1719667085054275852?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1719667085054275852%7Ctwgr%5E4cd3cc6d39a74fa6d657c50e159347f8d508fa2c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
Yes, it is a small part of the science but the point is absolutely valid - we have the same problem here - people who believe we have a problem but don't understand the environemnt or the science.
On 2023-11-04, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Sadly it is not. There are idiots all over the word fighting for something they do not begin to understand. And people like Rich blindly suck it all up.
Yes, it is a small part of the science but the point is absolutely valid - >>wehttps://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1719667085054275852?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1719667085054275852%7Ctwgr%5E4cd3cc6d39a74fa6d657c50e159347f8d508fa2c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
have the same problem here - people who believe we have a problem but don't >> understand the environemnt or the science.
There is a clip on you-tube where the sample conversation is played out at >some hearing in the USA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJfrKNR3K2k
It is hard not to think this is satire.
On Sat, 4 Nov 2023 22:58:09 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are a fool. The facts provided by Alan Jones are accurate. That you close your mind wilfully to facts is well known and it is your problem. Nobody else is fooled by you.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1719667085054275852?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1719667085054275852%7Ctwgr%5E4cd3cc6d39a74fa6d657c50e159347f8d508fa2c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
Yes, it is a small part of the science but the point is absolutely valid - we >>have the same problem here - people who believe we have a problem but don't >>understand the environemnt or the science.
Rabbit holes and those that have fallen down them have certainly
become a serious issue - are you testing the idiocy of readers of
nz.general, Tony? I can tell you that I do not find Alan Jones
convincing . . . at least in the first part of that video - those few
minutes we both watched and listened to that rubbish are totally lost
time . . .
If you were caught in one of the misinformation campaigns I am sorryHe has not been discredited and the phrase very discredited is clumsy and childish.
for you - but the election is over now, and National do realise that
they have international agreements (that they originally signed New
Zealand up to) that will be very expensive if we ignored real problems
for twits like the very discredited Alan Jones
None of which is pertinent to this thread which is about the accuracy of what he said. Do feel free to start your own thread if you wish to discuss Mr Jones" characetr.Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 4 Nov 2023 22:58:09 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are a fool. The facts provided by Alan Jones are accurate. That you >>close
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Yes, it is a small part of the science but the point is absolutely valid - >> >>wehttps://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1719667085054275852?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1719667085054275852%7Ctwgr%5E4cd3cc6d39a74fa6d657c50e159347f8d508fa2c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
have the same problem here - people who believe we have a problem but
don't
understand the environemnt or the science.
Rabbit holes and those that have fallen down them have certainly
become a serious issue - are you testing the idiocy of readers of
nz.general, Tony? I can tell you that I do not find Alan Jones
convincing . . . at least in the first part of that video - those few
minutes we both watched and listened to that rubbish are totally lost
time . . .
your mind wilfully to facts is well known and it is your problem. Nobody >>else
is fooled by you.
He has not been discredited and the phrase very discredited is clumsy and
If you were caught in one of the misinformation campaigns I am sorry
for you - but the election is over now, and National do realise that
they have international agreements (that they originally signed New
Zealand up to) that will be very expensive if we ignored real problems
for twits like the very discredited Alan Jones
childish.
You are the only one here or in Mr. Jones' orbit that has been discredited >>(and
many times to boot).
As for Mr Jone's' supposed unassailable probity and wholesomely good >judgement, know that throughout his time as a radio personality Jones has >himself been the subject of a number of court and tribunal investigations. So >here are a few of these, delivered to you for your leisured perusal and >grateful appreciation:
(extract from Google)
1990: Jones in his role with 2UE was ordered by a court to pay over
$55,000 damages for defaming David Parker, a former councillor of the NRMA, the
NSW Motorists' organisation; 2UE was also ordered to pay $80,000. Parker was >defamed during the NRMA election campaign in October 1986.[12]
1994: Jones and 2UE were sued in November by Don Mackay, president of the
NRMA, alleging that Jones made a false imputations against him.[12]
1998: Jones claimed on-air that rugby league referee Bill Harrigan was
biased. Harrigan sued Jones for defamation and, in 2001, was awarded damages of
$90,000.[100]
2002: Jones and 2UE settled out of court a defamation claim by Detective
Chief Inspector Deborah Wallace, a NSW police officer. Jones defamed Wallace >during five broadcasts in 2001.[101]
2008: Jones was found to have defamed Australian Olympic Committee chief
John Coates with comments regarding Coates' handling of an incident involving >rower Sally Robbins' performance at the 2004 Olympics.
2011: Jones was sued in December by health bureaucrat Terry Clout over
comments made by Jones in March 2009.[103]
2015: Jones was sued in January by former Queensland Premier Campbell
Newman and deputy Jeff Seeney over comments made by Jones alleging Mr Newman of
lying to him and the public about expanding the Acland coal mine in southern >Queensland.[104]
2018: Jones was successfully sued by members of the Wagner family after he
accused them of being responsible for the deaths of 12 people during the >2010–11 Queensland floods following the collapse of a wall in a quarry they >owned.[105] Jones and the radio stations that broadcast him were ordered to pay
$3.7 million in damages to the Wagner family.[106]
2018: Jones was sued by Jeff Parnell, a NSW government acoustic scientist,
who was accused by Jones of altering an independent noise-monitoring report for
a wind farm.[107]
Others involved in defamation proceedings with serial defamer Jones have >included Aboriginal woman Mary-Lou Buck, Lola Scott (previously the >highest-ranking female NSW police officer), Rockdale mayor Shaoquett Moselmane,
Aboriginal leader Pat Dodson, the rugby league judiciary, liquidator Ian >Ferrier and his twelve partners, Racing NSW's chief steward Ray Murrihy, rugby >union chief John O'Neill (about $50,000), former Herald letters editor >Geraldine Walsh (about $100,000) and QC Bob Stitt (about $50,000).
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 4 Nov 2023 22:58:09 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1719667085054275852?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1719667085054275852%7Ctwgr%5E4cd3cc6d39a74fa6d657c50e159347f8d508fa2c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
Yes, it is a small part of the science but the point is absolutely valid - we
have the same problem here - people who believe we have a problem but don't
understand the environemnt or the science.
Rabbit holes and those that have fallen down them have certainlyYou are a fool. The facts provided by Alan Jones are accurate. That you close
become a serious issue - are you testing the idiocy of readers of >nz.general, Tony? I can tell you that I do not find Alan Jones
convincing . . . at least in the first part of that video - those few >minutes we both watched and listened to that rubbish are totally lost
time . . .
your mind wilfully to facts is well known and it is your problem. Nobody else
is fooled by you.
If you were caught in one of the misinformation campaigns I am sorryHe has not been discredited and the phrase very discredited is clumsy and childish.
for you - but the election is over now, and National do realise that
they have international agreements (that they originally signed New >Zealand up to) that will be very expensive if we ignored real problems
for twits like the very discredited Alan Jones
You are the only one here or in Mr. Jones' orbit that has been discredited (and
many times to boot).
James Christophers <jmschristophers@gmail.com> wrote:Sorry - Jones' character.
On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 2:26:14 PM UTC+13, Tony wrote:
None of which is pertinent to this thread which is about the accuracy of what >he said. Do feel free to start your own thread if you wish to discuss Mr >Jones"Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 4 Nov 2023 22:58:09 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
You are a fool. The facts provided by Alan Jones are accurate. That you >>>closeYes, it is a small part of the science but the point is absolutely valid >>> >>-https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1719667085054275852?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1719667085054275852%7Ctwgr%5E4cd3cc6d39a74fa6d657c50e159347f8d508fa2c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
we
have the same problem here - people who believe we have a problem but
don't
understand the environemnt or the science.
Rabbit holes and those that have fallen down them have certainly
become a serious issue - are you testing the idiocy of readers of
nz.general, Tony? I can tell you that I do not find Alan Jones
convincing . . . at least in the first part of that video - those few
minutes we both watched and listened to that rubbish are totally lost
time . . .
your mind wilfully to facts is well known and it is your problem. Nobody >>>else
is fooled by you.
He has not been discredited and the phrase very discredited is clumsy and >>> childish.
If you were caught in one of the misinformation campaigns I am sorry
for you - but the election is over now, and National do realise that
they have international agreements (that they originally signed New
Zealand up to) that will be very expensive if we ignored real problems
for twits like the very discredited Alan Jones
You are the only one here or in Mr. Jones' orbit that has been discredited >>>(and
many times to boot).
As for Mr Jone's' supposed unassailable probity and wholesomely good >>judgement, know that throughout his time as a radio personality Jones has >>himself been the subject of a number of court and tribunal investigations. So >>here are a few of these, delivered to you for your leisured perusal and >>grateful appreciation:
(extract from Google)
1990: Jones in his role with 2UE was ordered by a court to pay over >>$55,000 damages for defaming David Parker, a former councillor of the NRMA, >>the
NSW Motorists' organisation; 2UE was also ordered to pay $80,000. Parker was >>defamed during the NRMA election campaign in October 1986.[12]
1994: Jones and 2UE were sued in November by Don Mackay, president of the >>NRMA, alleging that Jones made a false imputations against him.[12]
1998: Jones claimed on-air that rugby league referee Bill Harrigan was >>biased. Harrigan sued Jones for defamation and, in 2001, was awarded damages >>of
$90,000.[100]
2002: Jones and 2UE settled out of court a defamation claim by Detective >>Chief Inspector Deborah Wallace, a NSW police officer. Jones defamed Wallace >>during five broadcasts in 2001.[101]
2008: Jones was found to have defamed Australian Olympic Committee chief >>John Coates with comments regarding Coates' handling of an incident involving >>rower Sally Robbins' performance at the 2004 Olympics.
2011: Jones was sued in December by health bureaucrat Terry Clout over >>comments made by Jones in March 2009.[103]
2015: Jones was sued in January by former Queensland Premier Campbell >>Newman and deputy Jeff Seeney over comments made by Jones alleging Mr Newman >>of
lying to him and the public about expanding the Acland coal mine in southern >>Queensland.[104]
2018: Jones was successfully sued by members of the Wagner family after >>he
accused them of being responsible for the deaths of 12 people during the >>2010–11 Queensland floods following the collapse of a wall in a quarry they >>owned.[105] Jones and the radio stations that broadcast him were ordered to >>pay
$3.7 million in damages to the Wagner family.[106]
2018: Jones was sued by Jeff Parnell, a NSW government acoustic >>scientist,
who was accused by Jones of altering an independent noise-monitoring report >>for
a wind farm.[107]
Others involved in defamation proceedings with serial defamer Jones have >>included Aboriginal woman Mary-Lou Buck, Lola Scott (previously the >>highest-ranking female NSW police officer), Rockdale mayor Shaoquett >>Moselmane,
Aboriginal leader Pat Dodson, the rugby league judiciary, liquidator Ian >>Ferrier and his twelve partners, Racing NSW's chief steward Ray Murrihy, >>rugby
union chief John O'Neill (about $50,000), former Herald letters editor >>Geraldine Walsh (about $100,000) and QC Bob Stitt (about $50,000).
characetr.
James Christophers <jmschri...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 2:26:14 PM UTC+13, Tony wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 4 Nov 2023 22:58:09 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are a fool. The facts provided by Alan Jones are accurate. That you >>close
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Yes, it is a small part of the science but the point is absolutely valid -https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1719667085054275852?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1719667085054275852%7Ctwgr%5E4cd3cc6d39a74fa6d657c50e159347f8d508fa2c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
we
have the same problem here - people who believe we have a problem but >> >>don't
understand the environemnt or the science.
Rabbit holes and those that have fallen down them have certainly
become a serious issue - are you testing the idiocy of readers of
nz.general, Tony? I can tell you that I do not find Alan Jones
convincing . . . at least in the first part of that video - those few
minutes we both watched and listened to that rubbish are totally lost
time . . .
your mind wilfully to facts is well known and it is your problem. Nobody >>else
is fooled by you.
He has not been discredited and the phrase very discredited is clumsy and >> childish.
If you were caught in one of the misinformation campaigns I am sorry
for you - but the election is over now, and National do realise that
they have international agreements (that they originally signed New
Zealand up to) that will be very expensive if we ignored real problems >> >for twits like the very discredited Alan Jones
You are the only one here or in Mr. Jones' orbit that has been discredited
(and
many times to boot).
As for Mr Jone's' supposed unassailable probity and wholesomely good >judgement, know that throughout his time as a radio personality Jones has >himself been the subject of a number of court and tribunal investigations. So
here are a few of these, delivered to you for your leisured perusal and >grateful appreciation:
(extract from Google)
1990: Jones in his role with 2UE was ordered by a court to pay over
$55,000 damages for defaming David Parker, a former councillor of the NRMA, the
NSW Motorists' organisation; 2UE was also ordered to pay $80,000. Parker was
defamed during the NRMA election campaign in October 1986.[12]
1994: Jones and 2UE were sued in November by Don Mackay, president of the
NRMA, alleging that Jones made a false imputations against him.[12]
1998: Jones claimed on-air that rugby league referee Bill Harrigan was
biased. Harrigan sued Jones for defamation and, in 2001, was awarded damages of
$90,000.[100]
2002: Jones and 2UE settled out of court a defamation claim by Detective
Chief Inspector Deborah Wallace, a NSW police officer. Jones defamed Wallace
during five broadcasts in 2001.[101]
2008: Jones was found to have defamed Australian Olympic Committee chief
John Coates with comments regarding Coates' handling of an incident involving
rower Sally Robbins' performance at the 2004 Olympics.
2011: Jones was sued in December by health bureaucrat Terry Clout over
comments made by Jones in March 2009.[103]
2015: Jones was sued in January by former Queensland Premier Campbell
Newman and deputy Jeff Seeney over comments made by Jones alleging Mr Newman of
lying to him and the public about expanding the Acland coal mine in southern
Queensland.[104]
2018: Jones was successfully sued by members of the Wagner family after he
accused them of being responsible for the deaths of 12 people during the >2010–11 Queensland floods following the collapse of a wall in a quarry they
owned.[105] Jones and the radio stations that broadcast him were ordered to pay
$3.7 million in damages to the Wagner family.[106]
2018: Jones was sued by Jeff Parnell, a NSW government acoustic scientist,
who was accused by Jones of altering an independent noise-monitoring report for
a wind farm.[107]
Others involved in defamation proceedings with serial defamer Jones have >included Aboriginal woman Mary-Lou Buck, Lola Scott (previously the >highest-ranking female NSW police officer), Rockdale mayor Shaoquett Moselmane,None of which is pertinent to this thread which is about the accuracy of what
Aboriginal leader Pat Dodson, the rugby league judiciary, liquidator Ian >Ferrier and his twelve partners, Racing NSW's chief steward Ray Murrihy, rugby
union chief John O'Neill (about $50,000), former Herald letters editor >Geraldine Walsh (about $100,000) and QC Bob Stitt (about $50,000).
he said.
characetr.
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-11-04, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Sadly it is not. There are idiots all over the word fighting for something they
Yes, it is a small part of the science but the point is absolutely valid - >>>wehttps://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1719667085054275852?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1719667085054275852%7Ctwgr%5E4cd3cc6d39a74fa6d657c50e159347f8d508fa2c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
have the same problem here - people who believe we have a problem but don't >>> understand the environemnt or the science.
There is a clip on you-tube where the sample conversation is played out at >>some hearing in the USA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJfrKNR3K2k
It is hard not to think this is satire.
do not begin to understand. And people like Rich blindly suck it all up.
On Sun, 5 Nov 2023 01:27:30 -0000 (UTC), TonyNonsense. They should do their homework.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-11-04, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Sadly it is not. There are idiots all over the word fighting for something >>they
Yes, it is a small part of the science but the point is absolutely valid - >>>>wehttps://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1719667085054275852?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1719667085054275852%7Ctwgr%5E4cd3cc6d39a74fa6d657c50e159347f8d508fa2c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
have the same problem here - people who believe we have a problem but >>>>don't
understand the environemnt or the science.
There is a clip on you-tube where the sample conversation is played out at >>>some hearing in the USA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJfrKNR3K2k
It is hard not to think this is satire.
do not begin to understand. And people like Rich blindly suck it all up.
Indeed there are idiots all over the word fighting for something they
do not begin to understand- whether people on a panel know what
percentage of the atmosphere is made up of CO2 makes absolutely zero >difference to the impact global warming is having and is likely to
have on our world in the future, or to other knowledge that panel
members may have . . .
See for example: >https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2019/07/30/co2-drives-global-warming/Not proven and disputed by many experts.
2FJames Christophers <jmschri...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 2:26:14 PM UTC+13, Tony wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 4 Nov 2023 22:58:09 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1719667085054275852?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1719667085054275852%7Ctwgr%5E4cd3cc6d39a74fa6d657c50e159347f8d508fa2c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%
Unfortunately not. You showed me nothing that added to or subtracted from the debate. You merely provided a branch to another topic- no need to fall for that so I did not.None of which is pertinent to this thread which is about the accuracy of >>whatYou are a fool. The facts provided by Alan Jones are accurate. That you >> >>closeYes, it is a small part of the science but the point is absolutely
valid -
we
have the same problem here - people who believe we have a problem but >> >> >>don't
understand the environemnt or the science.
Rabbit holes and those that have fallen down them have certainly
become a serious issue - are you testing the idiocy of readers of
nz.general, Tony? I can tell you that I do not find Alan Jones
convincing . . . at least in the first part of that video - those few
minutes we both watched and listened to that rubbish are totally lost
time . . .
your mind wilfully to facts is well known and it is your problem. Nobody >> >>else
is fooled by you.
He has not been discredited and the phrase very discredited is clumsy and >> >> childish.
If you were caught in one of the misinformation campaigns I am sorry
for you - but the election is over now, and National do realise that
they have international agreements (that they originally signed New
Zealand up to) that will be very expensive if we ignored real problems >> >> >for twits like the very discredited Alan Jones
You are the only one here or in Mr. Jones' orbit that has been
discredited
(and
many times to boot).
As for Mr Jone's' supposed unassailable probity and wholesomely good
judgement, know that throughout his time as a radio personality Jones has >> >himself been the subject of a number of court and tribunal investigations. >> >So
here are a few of these, delivered to you for your leisured perusal and
grateful appreciation:
(extract from Google)
1990: Jones in his role with 2UE was ordered by a court to pay over
$55,000 damages for defaming David Parker, a former councillor of the NRMA, >> >the
NSW Motorists' organisation; 2UE was also ordered to pay $80,000. Parker
was
defamed during the NRMA election campaign in October 1986.[12]
1994: Jones and 2UE were sued in November by Don Mackay, president of the >> >NRMA, alleging that Jones made a false imputations against him.[12]
1998: Jones claimed on-air that rugby league referee Bill Harrigan was
biased. Harrigan sued Jones for defamation and, in 2001, was awarded
damages of
$90,000.[100]
2002: Jones and 2UE settled out of court a defamation claim by Detective >> >Chief Inspector Deborah Wallace, a NSW police officer. Jones defamed
Wallace
during five broadcasts in 2001.[101]
2008: Jones was found to have defamed Australian Olympic Committee chief >> >John Coates with comments regarding Coates' handling of an incident
involving
rower Sally Robbins' performance at the 2004 Olympics.
2011: Jones was sued in December by health bureaucrat Terry Clout over
comments made by Jones in March 2009.[103]
2015: Jones was sued in January by former Queensland Premier Campbell
Newman and deputy Jeff Seeney over comments made by Jones alleging Mr
Newman of
lying to him and the public about expanding the Acland coal mine in
southern
Queensland.[104]
2018: Jones was successfully sued by members of the Wagner family after he >> >accused them of being responsible for the deaths of 12 people during the
2010–11 Queensland floods following the collapse of a wall in a quarry
they
owned.[105] Jones and the radio stations that broadcast him were ordered to >> >pay
$3.7 million in damages to the Wagner family.[106]
2018: Jones was sued by Jeff Parnell, a NSW government acoustic scientist, >> >who was accused by Jones of altering an independent noise-monitoring report >> >for
a wind farm.[107]
Others involved in defamation proceedings with serial defamer Jones have
included Aboriginal woman Mary-Lou Buck, Lola Scott (previously the
highest-ranking female NSW police officer), Rockdale mayor Shaoquett
Moselmane,
Aboriginal leader Pat Dodson, the rugby league judiciary, liquidator Ian
Ferrier and his twelve partners, Racing NSW's chief steward Ray Murrihy,
rugby
union chief John O'Neill (about $50,000), former Herald letters editor
Geraldine Walsh (about $100,000) and QC Bob Stitt (about $50,000).
he said.
Do feel free to start your own thread if you wish to discuss Mr Jones"
characetr.
Too late - my work here is done, 'for fun or otherwise', as it were; whilst >you are now also better informed. A win-win all round, then.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 5 Nov 2023 01:27:30 -0000 (UTC), TonyNonsense. They should do their homework.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-11-04, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Sadly it is not. There are idiots all over the word fighting for something >>>they
Yes, it is a small part of the science but the point is absolutely valid -https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1719667085054275852?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1719667085054275852%7Ctwgr%5E4cd3cc6d39a74fa6d657c50e159347f8d508fa2c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
we
have the same problem here - people who believe we have a problem but >>>>>don't
understand the environemnt or the science.
There is a clip on you-tube where the sample conversation is played out at >>>>some hearing in the USA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJfrKNR3K2k
It is hard not to think this is satire.
do not begin to understand. And people like Rich blindly suck it all up.
Indeed there are idiots all over the word fighting for something they
do not begin to understand- whether people on a panel know what
percentage of the atmosphere is made up of CO2 makes absolutely zero >>difference to the impact global warming is having and is likely to
have on our world in the future, or to other knowledge that panel
members may have . . .
Not proven and disputed by many experts.
See for example: >>https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2019/07/30/co2-drives-global-warming/
On Sun, 5 Nov 2023 04:32:34 -0000 (UTC), TonyStop putting words into my mouth. I said nothing of the sort. You are an abusive little worm.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 5 Nov 2023 01:27:30 -0000 (UTC), TonyNonsense. They should do their homework.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Indeed there are idiots all over the word fighting for something they
On 2023-11-04, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Sadly it is not. There are idiots all over the word fighting for something >>>>they
Yes, it is a small part of the science but the point is absolutely valid >>>>>>-https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1719667085054275852?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1719667085054275852%7Ctwgr%5E4cd3cc6d39a74fa6d657c50e159347f8d508fa2c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
we
have the same problem here - people who believe we have a problem but >>>>>>don't
understand the environemnt or the science.
There is a clip on you-tube where the sample conversation is played out at >>>>>some hearing in the USA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJfrKNR3K2k
It is hard not to think this is satire.
do not begin to understand. And people like Rich blindly suck it all up. >>>
do not begin to understand- whether people on a panel know what >>>percentage of the atmosphere is made up of CO2 makes absolutely zero >>>difference to the impact global warming is having and is likely to
have on our world in the future, or to other knowledge that panel
members may have . . .
See for example: >>>https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2019/07/30/co2-drives-global-warming/ >>Not proven and disputed by many experts.
So you consider Alan Jones and expert? On anything? Really?
On Sat, 4 Nov 2023 22:58:09 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1719667085054275852?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1719667085054275852%7Ctwgr%5E4cd3cc6d39a74fa6d657c50e159347f8d508fa2c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
Yes, it is a small part of the science but the point is absolutely valid - we >>have the same problem here - people who believe we have a problem but don't >>understand the environemnt or the science.
Rabbit holes and those that have fallen down them have certainly
become a serious issue - are you testing the idiocy of readers of
nz.general, Tony? I can tell you that I do not find Alan Jones
convincing . . . at least in the first part of that video - those few
minutes we both watched and listened to that rubbish are totally lost
time . . .
If you were caught in one of the misinformation campaigns I am sorry
for you - but the election is over now, and National do realise that
they have international agreements (that they originally signed New
Zealand up to) that will be very expensive if we ignored real problems
for twits like the very discredited Alan Jones
On Sun, 05 Nov 2023 12:33:33 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>That is largely irrelevant to one problem faced by all of us - both
wrote:
On Sat, 4 Nov 2023 22:58:09 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Yes, it is a small part of the science but the point is absolutely valid - wehttps://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1719667085054275852?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1719667085054275852%7Ctwgr%5E4cd3cc6d39a74fa6d657c50e159347f8d508fa2c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
have the same problem here - people who believe we have a problem but don't >>>understand the environemnt or the science.
Rabbit holes and those that have fallen down them have certainly
become a serious issue - are you testing the idiocy of readers of >>nz.general, Tony? I can tell you that I do not find Alan Jones
convincing . . . at least in the first part of that video - those few >>minutes we both watched and listened to that rubbish are totally lost
time . . .
If you were caught in one of the misinformation campaigns I am sorry
for you - but the election is over now, and National do realise that
they have international agreements (that they originally signed New
Zealand up to) that will be very expensive if we ignored real problems
for twits like the very discredited Alan Jones
What nonsense. There is no evidence whatsoever that there is a man
made climate problem. I defy you to produce any evidence that there
is.
Bill.
On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 05:08:10 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:Totally irrelevant. The issue is whether man made climate change is predominantly the cause of changes in the weather. Agreements and such (whether binding or not) are irrelevant.
On Sun, 05 Nov 2023 12:33:33 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:That is largely irrelevant to one problem faced by all of us - both
On Sat, 4 Nov 2023 22:58:09 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Yes, it is a small part of the science but the point is absolutely valid - >>>>wehttps://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1719667085054275852?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1719667085054275852%7Ctwgr%5E4cd3cc6d39a74fa6d657c50e159347f8d508fa2c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
have the same problem here - people who believe we have a problem but don't >>>>understand the environemnt or the science.
Rabbit holes and those that have fallen down them have certainly
become a serious issue - are you testing the idiocy of readers of >>>nz.general, Tony? I can tell you that I do not find Alan Jones
convincing . . . at least in the first part of that video - those few >>>minutes we both watched and listened to that rubbish are totally lost >>>time . . .
If you were caught in one of the misinformation campaigns I am sorry
for you - but the election is over now, and National do realise that
they have international agreements (that they originally signed New >>>Zealand up to) that will be very expensive if we ignored real problems >>>for twits like the very discredited Alan Jones
What nonsense. There is no evidence whatsoever that there is a man
made climate problem. I defy you to produce any evidence that there
is.
Bill.
those that do and by those that do not believe in man-made global
warning. We have signed up to an international Treaty under which we
have agreed to reductions in emissions, or alternatively to pay large
sums of money to someone else that has made such reductions. That
Treaty started for New Zealand when a former National-led government
signed us up. The way in which we meet those obligations will benefit
us by giving us cleaner air which will also assist with health issues
in at least major centres, and give us more resilience in the face of >increasing prices for imported petroleum products.
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