• Re: Third-Party promoters such as the Taxpayers Unioin (2/2)

    From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 15:23:02 2023
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    entirely composed of private foundations and individuals) that they
    have locally focused projects worth our investment.”

    Williams accuses Walker, the Australian academic, of making claims he
    knows to be dishonest.

    His views won’t be a surprise to Walker, who confirms Williams has
    sent emails to himself and his institution in an attempt to intimidate
    his freedom of inquiry and expression.

    (This is something the Taxpayers’ Union executive director has done
    before, as the NZ Herald detailed about University of Otago
    nutritionist Dr Lisa Te Morenga, who called Williams a “twat” but
    later apologised after a string of complaining emails to the
    Vice-Chancellor’s office.)

    The pair had a Twitter exchange in December last year, in which Walker
    said opposition to Three Waters “is being whipped up by dark money
    neoliberal think tank NZ Taxpayers Union, linked to sister org. the
    New Zealand Initiative and both to the NZ oil and gas peak body,
    should be central to understanding the politics here”.

    Walker shouldn’t make stuff up and smear, Williams retorted. The
    Taxpayers’ Union doesn’t do a thing with oil and gas, he said, but he
    did confirm a link: “The only link to oil and gas peak body is that
    one of my ex staffers works there. So what?”

    Both will probably claim victory.

    Walker noted on Twitter last year Williams confirmed a link to oil and
    gas: “Making deceptive claims and amplifying them are what
    professional PR agents working for oil and gas (your staffer?) and
    associated 'think-tanks' are sadly well known for. So why don’t ‘free
    market’ Atlas think tanks like NZI and NZTU declare their funding
    sources?”

    Williams says the Taxpayers’ Union is not “mostly funded” by US dark
    money. (That didn’t appear to be what Walker was claiming.)

    “It is a shame academics aren’t as interested in truth seeking as
    playing cheap political point scoring.”

    With Walker’s journal article, Williams says the academic “simply
    projected his views about some Australian groups (who are also members
    of Atlas) to the Taxpayers’ Union despite the shoe clearly not
    fitting”.

    It’s ridiculous to suggest the Taxpayers’ Union’s position on climate
    change has been influenced by Atlas or industry, claiming it has “one
    of the strongest positions on tackling climate change in New Zealand”.

    (Newsroom asked the Green Party for comment but it didn’t respond.)

    Williams isn’t just sensitive about claims made by academics.

    Last week, after we sent him Baxter’s claims, errantly mentioning her association with Coal Action Network Aotearoa, he rang her in the
    evening.

    In a subsequent email, he said: “I am absolutely sure [original
    emphasis] that they have had zero influence on the Taxpayers’ Union’s
    approach to how New Zealand should respond to climate change or how
    best to meet our emissions targets.”

    Baxter says some of the Taxpayers’ Union’s ideas come from its
    collaboration with the Atlas network and its coaching.

    “That's the point – these are not a Kiwi thing.

    “They’re the product of an international neoliberal network that’s not
    designed to help the average Kiwi.”

    Williams says: “David and I founded the Taxpayers’ Union before I had
    even heard of the Atlas Network,” Williams says.

    “To suggest the union is a ‘product’ of some American effort is
    nonsense on stilts.”

    Money and political influence

    Beyond the claims and counter-claims, Grant Duncan, the political
    commentator, believes New Zealand needs to have a conversation about
    money and political influence.

    What if, for example, a powerful offshore influencer like the gun
    lobby National Rifle Association, in the United States, started
    becoming involved in New Zealand politics? How would the public know?

    “We do need to have a critical eye – particularly with the digital
    environment – on who’s influencing whom, and what kind of vested
    interests are using their financial clout, and economic muscle, or
    just sheer networks to unfairly tilt the playing field in their
    favour.”

    That’s an argument for more state funding.

    Third-party promoter rules are better than they were in 2005, when the Exclusive Brethren anonymously inserted its financial muscle into the
    general election campaign. But Duncan says they should be improved
    further.

    “We should be able to see who is making the donations,” he says.
    “Personally, I’m in favour of looking at a cap on donations – on party financial donations, as well as these third-party promoters.”

    That shouldn’t particularly worry Sarah Pallett, Labour’s former Ilam
    MP, who will be looking for a new job outside of politics.

    She won’t comment specifically on the Taxpayers’ Union, but says
    generally: “We need to be asking some very hard questions about the
    influence of big donors, whoever they are, on political campaigning
    and on elections at the moment.”

    Isn’t that sour grapes from a defeated candidate?

    No, she says. “I’m only asking for transparency – I’m not
    complaining.”

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 16:28:19 2023
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    development, and scholarships. In 2018, Williams was made a Smith
    Fellow, and travelled to Washington DC for training in marketing, >fundraising, management and other relevant skills.

    Williams rejects descriptions of Taxpayers’ Union as a dark-money
    think tank.

    (The definition of dark money on Dictionary.com is: “Money donated to >politically active non-profit organisations or anonymous corporate
    entities, which spend this money to influence political campaigns or
    other special interests but are not required to reveal their donors.)

    “I can’t think of a single specific policy initiative they’ve
    facilitated that I or any of my staff have been involved in.”

    Atlas Network’s director of marketing and communications Adam Weinberg
    says it’s a non-partisan US-based non-profit that provides training,
    grants, and networking opportunities. It doesn’t support or oppose
    candidates or political parties, or contribute to political campaigns.

    Of ‘The Voice’, Weinberg says: “We had no involvement in the campaign
    in any capacity.”

    Atlas’s name is sometimes invoked in “disinformation campaigns”, he
    says.

    “Sometimes these attacks are driven by authoritarian governments that
    invoke Atlas Network’s name with the goal of making dissenting voices
    in the country appear disloyal, and sometimes – as in the case of
    Australia – our name is used in conspiracy theories by activists who
    believe these stories will help them discredit their opponents or
    explain why their policy views aren't winning.”

    The network supports aspirations of its partners in advancing their
    own policy solutions “and that adhere to our common values”. “It’s not
    our role to decide what the policies of Australia or New Zealand
    should be.”

    Weinberg says Atlas thinks highly of the Taxpayers’ Union, which
    competes “vigorously” in its professional development and grant
    programmes.

    “They are a very good example of an organisation that has built a
    grassroots following, is a peer and mentor to similar organisations
    around the world, and has persuaded our donors (which are almost
    entirely composed of private foundations and individuals) that they
    have locally focused projects worth our investment.”

    Williams accuses Walker, the Australian academic, of making claims he
    knows to be dishonest.

    His views won’t be a surprise to Walker, who confirms Williams has
    sent emails to himself and his institution in an attempt to intimidate
    his freedom of inquiry and expression.

    (This is something the Taxpayers’ Union executive director has done
    before, as the NZ Herald detailed about University of Otago
    nutritionist Dr Lisa Te Morenga, who called Williams a “twat” but
    later apologised after a string of complaining emails to the >Vice-Chancellor’s office.)

    The pair had a Twitter exchange in December last year, in which Walker
    said opposition to Three Waters “is being whipped up by dark money
    neoliberal think tank NZ Taxpayers Union, linked to sister org. the
    New Zealand Initiative and both to the NZ oil and gas peak body,
    should be central to understanding the politics here”.

    Walker shouldn’t make stuff up and smear, Williams retorted. The
    Taxpayers’ Union doesn’t do a thing with oil and gas, he said, but he
    did confirm a link: “The only link to oil and gas peak body is that
    one of my ex staffers works there. So what?”

    Both will probably claim victory.

    Walker noted on Twitter last year Williams confirmed a link to oil and
    gas: “Making deceptive claims and amplifying them are what
    professional PR agents working for oil and gas (your staffer?) and
    associated 'think-tanks' are sadly well known for. So why don’t ‘free
    market’ Atlas think tanks like NZI and NZTU declare their funding
    sources?”

    Williams says the Taxpayers’ Union is not “mostly funded” by US dark
    money. (That didn’t appear to be what Walker was claiming.)

    “It is a shame academics aren’t as interested in truth seeking as
    playing cheap political point scoring.”

    With Walker’s journal article, Williams says the academic “simply
    projected his views about some Australian groups (who are also members
    of Atlas) to the Taxpayers’ Union despite the shoe clearly not
    fitting”.

    It’s ridiculous to suggest the Taxpayers’ Union’s position on climate
    change has been influenced by Atlas or industry, claiming it has “one
    of the strongest positions on tackling climate change in New Zealand”.

    (Newsroom asked the Green Party for comment but it didn’t respond.)

    Williams isn’t just sensitive about claims made by academics.

    Last week, after we sent him Baxter’s claims, errantly mentioning her >association with Coal Action Network Aotearoa, he rang her in the
    evening.

    In a subsequent email, he said: “I am absolutely sure [original
    emphasis] that they have had zero influence on the Taxpayers’ Union’s >approach to how New Zealand should respond to climate change or how
    best to meet our emissions targets.”

    Baxter says some of the Taxpayers’ Union’s ideas come from its
    collaboration with the Atlas network and its coaching.

    “That's the point – these are not a Kiwi thing.

    “They’re the product of an international neoliberal network that’s not >designed to help the average Kiwi.”

    Williams says: “David and I founded the Taxpayers’ Union before I had
    even heard of the Atlas Network,” Williams says.

    “To suggest the union is a ‘product’ of some American effort is
    nonsense on stilts.”

    Money and political influence

    Beyond the claims and counter-claims, Grant Duncan, the political >commentator, believes New Zealand needs to have a conversation about
    money and political influence.

    What if, for example, a powerful offshore influencer like the gun
    lobby National Rifle Association, in the United States, started
    becoming involved in New Zealand politics? How would the public know?

    “We do need to have a critical eye – particularly with the digital >environment – on who’s influencing whom, and what kind of vested
    interests are using their financial clout, and economic muscle, or
    just sheer networks to unfairly tilt the playing field in their
    favour.”

    That’s an argument for more state funding.

    Third-party promoter rules are better than they were in 2005, when the >Exclusive Brethren anonymously inserted its financial muscle into the
    general election campaign. But Duncan says they should be improved
    further.

    “We should be able to see who is making the donations,” he says.
    “Personally, I’m in favour of looking at a cap on donations – on party >financial donations, as well as these third-party promoters.”

    That shouldn’t particularly worry Sarah Pallett, Labour’s former Ilam
    MP, who will be looking for a new job outside of politics.

    She won’t comment specifically on the Taxpayers’ Union, but says
    generally: “We need to be asking some very hard questions about the
    influence of big donors, whoever they are, on political campaigning
    and on elections at the moment.”

    Isn’t that sour grapes from a defeated candidate?

    No, she says. “I’m only asking for transparency – I’m not
    complaining.”

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