• A good read on the election...

    From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 30 16:28:41 2023
    As usual Waikanae watch get's it...

    https://waikanaewatch.org/2023/10/31/shame-on-james-shaw-and-other-politicians-whats-the-electoral-commission-up-to/

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to John Bowes on Tue Oct 31 01:44:36 2023
    On 2023-10-30, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    As usual Waikanae watch get's it...

    https://waikanaewatch.org/2023/10/31/shame-on-james-shaw-and-other-politicians-whats-the-electoral-commission-up-to/

    "Getting NZ back on Track". one of the most accurate/needed solgan of any election.

    It is clear that something is going on. An the masses are going to have to explain to the politicans what we the people want from them. Seceret agendas
    is not one of them.

    The first task is to ensure that free speech is not restricted. Then we can
    get onto the matter(s) of how to get this country moving forward.

    Interesting point in the article that the Treaty of Waitangi contained no principles. I concluded that David Seymour is suggesting that NZ needs to
    agree on what the Treaty means, which is kind of like peace in the middle
    East. Not going to happen anytime soon. However, we do need to sort out what the Treaty means to-day to Kiwis, preferably without the courts opinion.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to bowesjohn02@gmail.com on Tue Oct 31 14:46:17 2023
    On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 16:28:41 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    As usual Waikanae watch get's it...

    https://waikanaewatch.org/2023/10/31/shame-on-james-shaw-and-other-politicians-whats-the-electoral-commission-up-to/

    Let us first see where the majority lies.

    The article is wrong in the paragraph regarding the Electoral
    Commission - they do not set the law on the voting system - the
    sentence <It has come as very unwelcome news to many individuals that
    when they deliberately cast their vote for a minor party such as New Conservatives whose policies they supported, but which did not gain an electoral seat, nor cross the 5% threshold to gain parliamentary representation, their votes were not simply discarded, as apparently
    used to be the practice. Inexplicably, their votes were taken instead
    and proportionately bestowed on the very parties for whom they quite
    certainly do not wish to vote!> is at best misleading - ignoring the
    party vote does change proportions for remaining votes.

    As usual, the column has little to do with the headline (James Shaw
    and the Greens are hardly mentioned), is racist, spouts strange
    opinions as fact, and links itself with The BFD - a sure sign of
    vicious bias and lies.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 30 20:42:45 2023
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 2:47:47 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 16:28:41 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    As usual Waikanae watch get's it...

    https://waikanaewatch.org/2023/10/31/shame-on-james-shaw-and-other-politicians-whats-the-electoral-commission-up-to/
    Let us first see where the majority lies.

    The article is wrong in the paragraph regarding the Electoral
    Commission - they do not set the law on the voting system - the
    sentence <It has come as very unwelcome news to many individuals that
    when they deliberately cast their vote for a minor party such as New Conservatives whose policies they supported, but which did not gain an electoral seat, nor cross the 5% threshold to gain parliamentary representation, their votes were not simply discarded, as apparently
    used to be the practice. Inexplicably, their votes were taken instead
    and proportionately bestowed on the very parties for whom they quite certainly do not wish to vote!> is at best misleading - ignoring the
    party vote does change proportions for remaining votes.

    As usual, the column has little to do with the headline (James Shaw
    and the Greens are hardly mentioned), is racist, spouts strange
    opinions as fact, and links itself with The BFD - a sure sign of
    vicious bias and lies.
    As usual Rich spouts a lot of shit showing his tendency to show his vicious bias and lies! I suggest you point out the lies Rich rather than just make your usual fake accusation of lying!

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