• Supply chain isssues - in your Supermarket

    From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 24 20:18:05 2023
    Not much going on politically so I thought I would start a
    non-political thread. There has been recent assertions in the news
    media that supply chain issues have largely been fixed now - but up
    here in the Far North both local supermarkets (NW in particular but
    also Countdown) have stock artfully spread out to disguise shortages.
    We shop at NW with a backup at Countdown. There are no others in
    town.

    Today was no exception. Meat supplies were well down on normal as was
    milk (next to no value brand homogenised). Off to the local butcher
    then (all meat sourced from NZ). While I could get Hollandaise sauce
    today, this was the first time in 3 weeks (of weekly shopping). Fish
    was good though - Orange Roughy at an acceptable price. Interestingly
    Streaky Bacon from Pams was listed as 'packed in NZ , sourced from...'
    and a list of European countries. With Pams being a Foodstuffs house
    brand this was a surprise.

    Since the pandemic we have made a specific effort to source food from non-Supermarket sources. There is a local Farmers Market which is
    fairly small but food-focused, and also a larger market that includes
    some food stalls. The choices up here though are far less diverse
    than Wellington (which we moved from a few years ago).

    I am left wondering though whether these issues are caused by an
    overly prudent ordering regime (ie deliberately under-ordering to keep
    costs down and stock-turn up) - taking advantage of small-town market
    dominance - or whether there are genuine supply issues throughout the Foodstuffs North Island organisation.


    --
    Crash McBash

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Crash on Tue Oct 24 20:17:30 2023
    On 2023-10-24, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    Not much going on politically so I thought I would start a
    non-political thread. There has been recent assertions in the news
    media that supply chain issues have largely been fixed now - but up
    here in the Far North both local supermarkets (NW in particular but
    also Countdown) have stock artfully spread out to disguise shortages.
    We shop at NW with a backup at Countdown. There are no others in
    town.

    Today was no exception. Meat supplies were well down on normal as was
    milk (next to no value brand homogenised). Off to the local butcher
    then (all meat sourced from NZ). While I could get Hollandaise sauce
    today, this was the first time in 3 weeks (of weekly shopping). Fish
    was good though - Orange Roughy at an acceptable price. Interestingly Streaky Bacon from Pams was listed as 'packed in NZ , sourced from...'
    and a list of European countries. With Pams being a Foodstuffs house
    brand this was a surprise.

    Since the pandemic we have made a specific effort to source food from non-Supermarket sources. There is a local Farmers Market which is
    fairly small but food-focused, and also a larger market that includes
    some food stalls. The choices up here though are far less diverse
    than Wellington (which we moved from a few years ago).

    I am left wondering though whether these issues are caused by an
    overly prudent ordering regime (ie deliberately under-ordering to keep
    costs down and stock-turn up) - taking advantage of small-town market dominance - or whether there are genuine supply issues throughout the Foodstuffs North Island organisation.

    When the supply chains are back to normal the local supermarket will need to adjust the goods amount order to what is needed. This may or may not we the amount before.

    Also if the local supermaket thinks that the supplies are okay or that the shoppers think things are normal then the existing situation will rule.

    If the supermarket orders in more then this maybe another truck load which
    is another truck from somewhere. Also head office probably considers small towns of less inportance as less profit from them.

    Just some thoughts, make a change from why the politcal folks are up to.

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  • From JohnO@21:1/5 to Crash on Tue Oct 24 13:38:55 2023
    On Tuesday, 24 October 2023 at 20:17:56 UTC+13, Crash wrote:
    Not much going on politically so I thought I would start a
    non-political thread. There has been recent assertions in the news
    media that supply chain issues have largely been fixed now - but up
    here in the Far North both local supermarkets (NW in particular but
    also Countdown) have stock artfully spread out to disguise shortages.
    We shop at NW with a backup at Countdown. There are no others in
    town.

    Today was no exception. Meat supplies were well down on normal as was
    milk (next to no value brand homogenised). Off to the local butcher
    then (all meat sourced from NZ). While I could get Hollandaise sauce
    today, this was the first time in 3 weeks (of weekly shopping). Fish
    was good though - Orange Roughy at an acceptable price. Interestingly Streaky Bacon from Pams was listed as 'packed in NZ , sourced from...'
    and a list of European countries. With Pams being a Foodstuffs house
    brand this was a surprise.

    Since the pandemic we have made a specific effort to source food from non-Supermarket sources. There is a local Farmers Market which is
    fairly small but food-focused, and also a larger market that includes
    some food stalls. The choices up here though are far less diverse
    than Wellington (which we moved from a few years ago).

    I am left wondering though whether these issues are caused by an
    overly prudent ordering regime (ie deliberately under-ordering to keep
    costs down and stock-turn up) - taking advantage of small-town market dominance - or whether there are genuine supply issues throughout the Foodstuffs North Island organisation.


    --
    Crash McBash

    Not noticed any major problems in Auckland. We click and collect from PaknSlave and they routinely fail to supply some items as noted on the packing slip. So I go into the store and can almost always find something equivalent. They are not allowed to
    charge extra on a substitute product so if you order Pams bacon and there's none, they typically won't substitute in Beehive. It's a bit annoying. It might be possible put an instruction on the order to allow upcharge substitutions though...

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 25 19:24:37 2023
    On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 01:46:03 GMT, willynilly@qwert.com (Willy Nilly)
    wrote:

    On Tue, 24 Oct 2023, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    Streaky Bacon from Pams was listed as 'packed in NZ , sourced from...'
    and a list of European countries. With Pams being a Foodstuffs house
    brand this was a surprise.

    NZ pork was hit by the recent ban on gestation crates, which were used
    to prevent a mama pig from accidentally crushing her piglets. So NZ
    pork production is down and imports up. I too try to buy NZ produce
    and so buy the "champagne" ham which is usually NZ.

    Similarly the "free range" rules brought in for chickens are reducing
    the NZ chicken & egg supplies. We buy only locally-produced eggs sold
    at the greengrocers now. Not yet seeing any Chinese eggs.

    All the rules serve only to cripple our own industries whilst imports
    don't need to follow those rules. It's stupid all the way down.
    Remember we used to have a thriving sweatshop industry here in NZ, now
    all closed down, all our clothing imported from overseas sweatshops
    and nothing fits us well anymore, no shirt pockets, pyjama pantses
    without zips, socks disintegrate quickly, etc.

    All our new rules harm us. In Italy they have a 90-day-per-year limit
    on how long Parliament can sit, to prevent them from passing harmful
    laws.

    II don't know what you mean by all our new rules harm us - do they no
    longer harm us when they get old? How long does that take?

    The comment about a 90 sitting day limit in Italy is interesting,
    Willy Nilly - do you have a reference to that? I looked here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Parliament but it does not
    mention any limitation on sitting days. If legislation can only be
    made during 90 days in a year, does that mean that legislation has to
    be rushed and therefore potentially harmful?

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  • From Willy Nilly@21:1/5 to Crash on Wed Oct 25 01:46:03 2023
    On Tue, 24 Oct 2023, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    Streaky Bacon from Pams was listed as 'packed in NZ , sourced from...'
    and a list of European countries. With Pams being a Foodstuffs house
    brand this was a surprise.

    NZ pork was hit by the recent ban on gestation crates, which were used
    to prevent a mama pig from accidentally crushing her piglets. So NZ
    pork production is down and imports up. I too try to buy NZ produce
    and so buy the "champagne" ham which is usually NZ.

    Similarly the "free range" rules brought in for chickens are reducing
    the NZ chicken & egg supplies. We buy only locally-produced eggs sold
    at the greengrocers now. Not yet seeing any Chinese eggs.

    All the rules serve only to cripple our own industries whilst imports
    don't need to follow those rules. It's stupid all the way down.
    Remember we used to have a thriving sweatshop industry here in NZ, now
    all closed down, all our clothing imported from overseas sweatshops
    and nothing fits us well anymore, no shirt pockets, pyjama pantses
    without zips, socks disintegrate quickly, etc.

    All our new rules harm us. In Italy they have a 90-day-per-year limit
    on how long Parliament can sit, to prevent them from passing harmful
    laws.

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  • From Willy Nilly@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 25 21:40:46 2023
    On Wed, 25 Oct 2023, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 01:46:03 GMT, willynilly@qwert.com (Willy Nilly)
    All our new rules harm us.

    II don't know what you mean by all our new rules harm us - do they no
    longer harm us when they get old? How long does that take?

    I regret your lack of comprehension, Rich, and although I wring my
    hands, I cannot find the remedy.

    The comment about a 90 sitting day limit in Italy is interesting,
    Willy Nilly - do you have a reference to that?

    Sorry, no, I confess I've passed on something I read without
    personally confirming it. Busy, you know.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 26 13:19:01 2023
    On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 21:40:46 GMT, willynilly@qwert.com (Willy Nilly)
    wrote:

    On Wed, 25 Oct 2023, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 01:46:03 GMT, willynilly@qwert.com (Willy Nilly)
    All our new rules harm us.

    II don't know what you mean by all our new rules harm us - do they no >>longer harm us when they get old? How long does that take?

    I regret your lack of comprehension, Rich, and although I wring my
    hands, I cannot find the remedy.

    The comment about a 90 sitting day limit in Italy is interesting,
    Willy Nilly - do you have a reference to that?

    Sorry, no, I confess I've passed on something I read without
    personally confirming it. Busy, you know.

    Perhaps you thought that by deleting the words of your post you could
    hide the lack of supporting argument, or examples of harmful laws from
    having Parliament site for more than 90 days in a year.

    Your statement was :
    "All our new rules harm us. In Italy they have a 90-day-per-year
    limit on how long Parliament can sit, to prevent them from passing
    harmful laws. "

    Can you give any argument or reason why any part of that statement is
    true?

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 25 20:17:21 2023
    On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:58 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 21:40:46 GMT, willy...@qwert.com (Willy Nilly)
    wrote:

    On Wed, 25 Oct 2023, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 01:46:03 GMT, willy...@qwert.com (Willy Nilly)
    All our new rules harm us.

    II don't know what you mean by all our new rules harm us - do they no >>longer harm us when they get old? How long does that take?

    I regret your lack of comprehension, Rich, and although I wring my
    hands, I cannot find the remedy.

    The comment about a 90 sitting day limit in Italy is interesting,
    Willy Nilly - do you have a reference to that?

    Sorry, no, I confess I've passed on something I read without
    personally confirming it. Busy, you know.
    Perhaps you thought that by deleting the words of your post you could
    hide the lack of supporting argument, or examples of harmful laws from having Parliament site for more than 90 days in a year.

    Your statement was :
    "All our new rules harm us. In Italy they have a 90-day-per-year
    limit on how long Parliament can sit, to prevent them from passing
    harmful laws. "
    Can you give any argument or reason why any part of that statement is
    true?
    Once again Rich preaches what he so regularly does himself! The imbecile has a new mantra obviously: Rich right even though he's hard left, everyone else is wrong even though they're further right than Rich...:)

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Crash on Wed Oct 25 20:19:17 2023
    On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 8:17:56 PM UTC+13, Crash wrote:
    Not much going on politically so I thought I would start a
    non-political thread. There has been recent assertions in the news
    media that supply chain issues have largely been fixed now - but up
    here in the Far North both local supermarkets (NW in particular but
    also Countdown) have stock artfully spread out to disguise shortages.
    We shop at NW with a backup at Countdown. There are no others in
    town.

    Today was no exception. Meat supplies were well down on normal as was
    milk (next to no value brand homogenised). Off to the local butcher
    then (all meat sourced from NZ). While I could get Hollandaise sauce
    today, this was the first time in 3 weeks (of weekly shopping). Fish
    was good though - Orange Roughy at an acceptable price. Interestingly Streaky Bacon from Pams was listed as 'packed in NZ , sourced from...'
    and a list of European countries. With Pams being a Foodstuffs house
    brand this was a surprise.

    Since the pandemic we have made a specific effort to source food from non-Supermarket sources. There is a local Farmers Market which is
    fairly small but food-focused, and also a larger market that includes
    some food stalls. The choices up here though are far less diverse
    than Wellington (which we moved from a few years ago).

    I am left wondering though whether these issues are caused by an
    overly prudent ordering regime (ie deliberately under-ordering to keep
    costs down and stock-turn up) - taking advantage of small-town market dominance - or whether there are genuine supply issues throughout the Foodstuffs North Island organisation.


    --
    Crash McBash
    Countdown has supply issues. There ordering is done from Australia they tell me. Obviously whoever is doing it needs to get some instructions in how to order. Or better still let those on the ground who know their customers get to do the ordering...

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