• Re: Australia went a better way

    From Willy Nilly@21:1/5 to Gordon on Sun Oct 15 01:08:04 2023
    On 15 Oct 2023 00:21:53 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    No co-governce from the hidden agenda, the people have made it clear and now >Australia can start to tackle the issue from a different view point.

    ... a far better way to do it than the secret agenda goverence model
    and slam it though the House like a tornado?

    Yep, the Aussies were given a choice, whereas we had it rammed down
    our throats without it ever having been on Labour's platform and never
    subject to public discussions at all.

    Similarly, the 11,005 covid vaccine *secret exemptions* for medical
    staff, without which there could not be the illusion of unified
    medical compliance, also shows that Labour needs deception to
    institute their malevolent agenda.

    Thank god(s) that we are shaking off this evil albatross. Now let's
    see if the "stupid" party can do it right this time around.

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 15 00:21:53 2023
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/300989238/we-gave-it-our-all-albanese-pledges-unity-after-defeat-on-australias-voice-referendum

    No co-governce from the hidden agenda, the people have made it clear and now Australia can start to tackle the issue from a different view point.

    Sorry about pushing the envelope of this ng. This does show a far better way
    to do it than the secret agenda goverence model and slam it though the House like a tornado?

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to Gordon on Sun Oct 15 14:48:31 2023
    On 15 Oct 2023 00:21:53 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/300989238/we-gave-it-our-all-albanese-pledges-unity-after-defeat-on-australias-voice-referendum

    No co-governce from the hidden agenda, the people have made it clear and now >Australia can start to tackle the issue from a different view point.

    Sorry about pushing the envelope of this ng. This does show a far better way >to do it than the secret agenda goverence model and slam it though the House >like a tornado?

    Finlayson had presumably been asked not to give his views on
    co-governance before the election - this morning on National Radio he
    commented along the lines that what Labour were doing is a good way to
    resolve many Treaty issues, but that Labour had not explained it well.
    National did not like it being pointed out that they had themselves
    used co-governance to good effect - those that just wanted to bash
    everything did not want that side of the story getting out . . .

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sun Oct 15 02:50:50 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 15 Oct 2023 00:21:53 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/300989238/we-gave-it-our-all-albanese-pledges-unity-after-defeat-on-australias-voice-referendum

    No co-governce from the hidden agenda, the people have made it clear and now >>Australia can start to tackle the issue from a different view point.

    Sorry about pushing the envelope of this ng. This does show a far better way >>to do it than the secret agenda goverence model and slam it though the House >>like a tornado?

    Finlayson had presumably been asked not to give his views on
    co-governance before the election - this morning on National Radio he >commented along the lines that what Labour were doing is a good way to >resolve many Treaty issues, but that Labour had not explained it well. >National did not like it being pointed out that they had themselves
    used co-governance to good effect
    Of course they didn't, after all they did not use co-governance - ever. It is one of your many lies.
    - those that just wanted to bash
    everything did not want that side of the story getting out . . .

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  • From JohnO@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 15 12:48:08 2023
    On Sunday, 15 October 2023 at 14:48:58 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On 15 Oct 2023 00:21:53 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/300989238/we-gave-it-our-all-albanese-pledges-unity-after-defeat-on-australias-voice-referendum

    No co-governce from the hidden agenda, the people have made it clear and now >Australia can start to tackle the issue from a different view point.

    Sorry about pushing the envelope of this ng. This does show a far better way >to do it than the secret agenda goverence model and slam it though the House >like a tornado?
    Finlayson had presumably been asked not to give his views on
    co-governance before the election - this morning on National Radio he commented along the lines that what Labour were doing is a good way to resolve many Treaty issues, but that Labour had not explained it well. National did not like it being pointed out that they had themselves
    used co-governance to good effect - those that just wanted to bash
    everything did not want that side of the story getting out . . .

    This sort of lying by the left is what just got them destroyed in the NZ general election. Slow learners.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to JohnO on Sun Oct 15 14:09:53 2023
    On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 8:48:10 AM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:
    On Sunday, 15 October 2023 at 14:48:58 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On 15 Oct 2023 00:21:53 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/300989238/we-gave-it-our-all-albanese-pledges-unity-after-defeat-on-australias-voice-referendum

    No co-governce from the hidden agenda, the people have made it clear and now
    Australia can start to tackle the issue from a different view point.

    Sorry about pushing the envelope of this ng. This does show a far better way
    to do it than the secret agenda goverence model and slam it though the House
    like a tornado?
    Finlayson had presumably been asked not to give his views on
    co-governance before the election - this morning on National Radio he commented along the lines that what Labour were doing is a good way to resolve many Treaty issues, but that Labour had not explained it well. National did not like it being pointed out that they had themselves
    used co-governance to good effect - those that just wanted to bash everything did not want that side of the story getting out . . .
    This sort of lying by the left is what just got them destroyed in the NZ general election. Slow learners.
    Slow learners? Incapable of learning ! Look at the resident loony lefty. Still pushing the same damn bullshit he was pushing twenty odd years ago despite valiant efforts by Crash, you and Tony to try and straighten him out...

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 16 10:16:59 2023
    On Sun, 15 Oct 2023 12:48:08 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sunday, 15 October 2023 at 14:48:58 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On 15 Oct 2023 00:21:53 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/300989238/we-gave-it-our-all-albanese-pledges-unity-after-defeat-on-australias-voice-referendum

    No co-governce from the hidden agenda, the people have made it clear and now
    Australia can start to tackle the issue from a different view point.

    Sorry about pushing the envelope of this ng. This does show a far better way
    to do it than the secret agenda goverence model and slam it though the House
    like a tornado?
    Finlayson had presumably been asked not to give his views on
    co-governance before the election - this morning on National Radio he
    commented along the lines that what Labour were doing is a good way to
    resolve many Treaty issues, but that Labour had not explained it well.
    National did not like it being pointed out that they had themselves
    used co-governance to good effect - those that just wanted to bash
    everything did not want that side of the story getting out . . .

    This sort of lying by the left is what just got them destroyed in the NZ general election. Slow learners.
    No lie - it was on RNZ as I said - but it seems you have not got the
    message from Luxon - he wants everyone to treat others in a civil way!
    The sort of "do as I say not what I do" approach of the self-deceived
    idiots on the right who want other people to treat them as they have
    never treated others.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sun Oct 15 21:36:56 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Oct 2023 12:48:08 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sunday, 15 October 2023 at 14:48:58 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On 15 Oct 2023 00:21:53 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/300989238/we-gave-it-our-all-albanese-pledges-unity-after-defeat-on-australias-voice-referendum

    No co-governce from the hidden agenda, the people have made it clear and >>> >now
    Australia can start to tackle the issue from a different view point.

    Sorry about pushing the envelope of this ng. This does show a far better >>> >way
    to do it than the secret agenda goverence model and slam it though the
    House
    like a tornado?
    Finlayson had presumably been asked not to give his views on
    co-governance before the election - this morning on National Radio he
    commented along the lines that what Labour were doing is a good way to
    resolve many Treaty issues, but that Labour had not explained it well.
    National did not like it being pointed out that they had themselves
    used co-governance to good effect - those that just wanted to bash
    everything did not want that side of the story getting out . . .

    This sort of lying by the left is what just got them destroyed in the NZ >>general election. Slow learners.
    No lie - it was on RNZ as I said - but it seems you have not got the
    message from Luxon - he wants everyone to treat others in a civil way!
    The sort of "do as I say not what I do" approach of the self-deceived
    idiots on the right who want other people to treat them as they have
    never treated others.
    You are "of course" talking about yourself - your behaviour exactly.
    There are no right wing folks in tyhis group and none in parliament either.

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  • From JohnO@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 15 14:26:11 2023
    On Monday, 16 October 2023 at 10:17:29 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Oct 2023 12:48:08 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Sunday, 15 October 2023 at 14:48:58 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On 15 Oct 2023 00:21:53 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/300989238/we-gave-it-our-all-albanese-pledges-unity-after-defeat-on-australias-voice-referendum

    No co-governce from the hidden agenda, the people have made it clear and now
    Australia can start to tackle the issue from a different view point.

    Sorry about pushing the envelope of this ng. This does show a far better way
    to do it than the secret agenda goverence model and slam it though the House
    like a tornado?
    Finlayson had presumably been asked not to give his views on
    co-governance before the election - this morning on National Radio he
    commented along the lines that what Labour were doing is a good way to
    resolve many Treaty issues, but that Labour had not explained it well.
    National did not like it being pointed out that they had themselves
    used co-governance to good effect - those that just wanted to bash
    everything did not want that side of the story getting out . . .

    This sort of lying by the left is what just got them destroyed in the NZ general election. Slow learners.
    No lie - it was on RNZ as I said - but it seems you have not got the
    message from Luxon - he wants everyone to treat others in a civil way!
    The sort of "do as I say not what I do" approach of the self-deceived
    idiots on the right who want other people to treat them as they have
    never treated others.

    You are lying. Finayson's "co-governance" was limited to local area governance of their own iwi traditional domain. For example management of a local forest park, mountain or fishing area. Finlayson never went near anything like 5 Waters and its race
    based Mana o Te Wai statements.

    Dickbot, your lying is symptomatic of Labour and its deceptiveness. People finally saw through it and rejected it. Labour are destroyed yet you are too thick or indoctrinated to see why. This is good to see - the retention of useful idiots such as
    yourself should keep Labour in opposition, perhaps even minor opposition for a long time. Keep it up.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 15 16:25:28 2023
    On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 10:17:29 AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Oct 2023 12:48:08 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Sunday, 15 October 2023 at 14:48:58 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On 15 Oct 2023 00:21:53 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/300989238/we-gave-it-our-all-albanese-pledges-unity-after-defeat-on-australias-voice-referendum

    No co-governce from the hidden agenda, the people have made it clear and now
    Australia can start to tackle the issue from a different view point.

    Sorry about pushing the envelope of this ng. This does show a far better way
    to do it than the secret agenda goverence model and slam it though the House
    like a tornado?
    Finlayson had presumably been asked not to give his views on
    co-governance before the election - this morning on National Radio he
    commented along the lines that what Labour were doing is a good way to
    resolve many Treaty issues, but that Labour had not explained it well.
    National did not like it being pointed out that they had themselves
    used co-governance to good effect - those that just wanted to bash
    everything did not want that side of the story getting out . . .

    This sort of lying by the left is what just got them destroyed in the NZ general election. Slow learners.
    No lie - it was on RNZ as I said - but it seems you have not got the
    message from Luxon - he wants everyone to treat others in a civil way!
    The sort of "do as I say not what I do" approach of the self-deceived
    idiots on the right who want other people to treat them as they have
    never treated others.
    RNZ is almost as far left and deluded as you Rich. Probably why yoou rely on their biased misinformation so much...

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to bowesjohn02@gmail.com on Mon Oct 16 15:54:17 2023
    On Sun, 15 Oct 2023 16:25:28 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 10:17:29?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Oct 2023 12:48:08 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Sunday, 15 October 2023 at 14:48:58 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On 15 Oct 2023 00:21:53 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/300989238/we-gave-it-our-all-albanese-pledges-unity-after-defeat-on-australias-voice-referendum

    No co-governce from the hidden agenda, the people have made it clear and now
    Australia can start to tackle the issue from a different view point.

    Sorry about pushing the envelope of this ng. This does show a far better way
    to do it than the secret agenda goverence model and slam it though the House
    like a tornado?
    Finlayson had presumably been asked not to give his views on
    co-governance before the election - this morning on National Radio he
    commented along the lines that what Labour were doing is a good way to
    resolve many Treaty issues, but that Labour had not explained it well.
    National did not like it being pointed out that they had themselves
    used co-governance to good effect - those that just wanted to bash
    everything did not want that side of the story getting out . . .

    This sort of lying by the left is what just got them destroyed in the NZ general election. Slow learners.
    No lie - it was on RNZ as I said - but it seems you have not got the
    message from Luxon - he wants everyone to treat others in a civil way!
    The sort of "do as I say not what I do" approach of the self-deceived
    idiots on the right who want other people to treat them as they have
    never treated others.
    RNZ is almost as far left and deluded as you Rich. Probably why yoou rely on their biased misinformation so much...
    So now you believe that Radio New Zealand somehow got Chris Finlayson
    to say something he did not believe? Get real, JohnB

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 15 21:14:49 2023
    On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 3:54:44 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Oct 2023 16:25:28 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 10:17:29?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Oct 2023 12:48:08 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Sunday, 15 October 2023 at 14:48:58 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On 15 Oct 2023 00:21:53 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/300989238/we-gave-it-our-all-albanese-pledges-unity-after-defeat-on-australias-voice-referendum

    No co-governce from the hidden agenda, the people have made it clear and now
    Australia can start to tackle the issue from a different view point. >> >> >
    Sorry about pushing the envelope of this ng. This does show a far better way
    to do it than the secret agenda goverence model and slam it though the House
    like a tornado?
    Finlayson had presumably been asked not to give his views on
    co-governance before the election - this morning on National Radio he >> >> commented along the lines that what Labour were doing is a good way to >> >> resolve many Treaty issues, but that Labour had not explained it well. >> >> National did not like it being pointed out that they had themselves
    used co-governance to good effect - those that just wanted to bash
    everything did not want that side of the story getting out . . .

    This sort of lying by the left is what just got them destroyed in the NZ general election. Slow learners.
    No lie - it was on RNZ as I said - but it seems you have not got the
    message from Luxon - he wants everyone to treat others in a civil way!
    The sort of "do as I say not what I do" approach of the self-deceived
    idiots on the right who want other people to treat them as they have
    never treated others.
    RNZ is almost as far left and deluded as you Rich. Probably why yoou rely on their biased misinformation so much...
    So now you believe that Radio New Zealand somehow got Chris Finlayson
    to say something he did not believe? Get real, JohnB
    No Rich. I never mentioned him. I leave that to hopeless cases like you who persist in pushing the myth!
    Nice of you to admit RNZ is almost as far left as you are. Could there be a glimmer of hope for you?

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  • From Mutley@21:1/5 to John Bowes on Mon Oct 16 16:24:51 2023
    John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 10:17:29?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Oct 2023 12:48:08 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Sunday, 15 October 2023 at 14:48:58 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On 15 Oct 2023 00:21:53 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/300989238/we-gave-it-our-all-albanese-pledges-unity-after-defeat-on-australias-voice-referendum

    No co-governce from the hidden agenda, the people have made it clear and now
    Australia can start to tackle the issue from a different view point.

    Sorry about pushing the envelope of this ng. This does show a far better way
    to do it than the secret agenda goverence model and slam it though the House
    like a tornado?
    Finlayson had presumably been asked not to give his views on
    co-governance before the election - this morning on National Radio he
    commented along the lines that what Labour were doing is a good way to
    resolve many Treaty issues, but that Labour had not explained it well.
    National did not like it being pointed out that they had themselves
    used co-governance to good effect - those that just wanted to bash
    everything did not want that side of the story getting out . . .

    This sort of lying by the left is what just got them destroyed in the NZ general election. Slow learners.
    No lie - it was on RNZ as I said - but it seems you have not got the
    message from Luxon - he wants everyone to treat others in a civil way!
    The sort of "do as I say not what I do" approach of the self-deceived
    idiots on the right who want other people to treat them as they have
    never treated others.
    RNZ is almost as far left and deluded as you Rich. Probably why yoou rely on their biased misinformation so much...
    That's why it's called Red Radio

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