Oh the hypocrisy! If Luxon is to be taken at this word, thisNot a continuation, if they did that it would be copying Labour, but they won't do that, they are not that shallow.
candidate should be required to resign if he is elected to the list,
and National should remove his endorsement as a candidate for the seat
in any by-election. But the big question there is whether National
just continues with one law for themselves and other standards for
anyone else . . .
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/national-mp-in-key-seat-didnt-disclose-big-shareholding
Not a continuation, if they did that it would be copying Labour, but they won't
Oh the hypocrisy! If Luxon is to be taken at this word, this
candidate should be required to resign if he is elected to the list,
and National should remove his endorsement as a candidate for the seat
in any by-election. But the big question there is whether National
just continues with one law for themselves and other standards for
anyone else . . .
do that, they are not that shallow.
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 22:28:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/national-mp-in-key-seat-didnt-disclose-big-shareholdingNot a continuation, if they did that it would be copying Labour, but they won't
Oh the hypocrisy! If Luxon is to be taken at this word, this
candidate should be required to resign if he is elected to the list,
and National should remove his endorsement as a candidate for the seat
in any by-election. But the big question there is whether National
just continues with one law for themselves and other standards for
anyone else . . .
do that, they are not that shallow.
Here is another view, with news that Bayly has _five_ Trusts - will
National apply their calls for Michael Wood to resign when one of
their own is caught? https://norightturn.blogspot.com/2023/10/we-cant-trust-mps-with-trusts.html
On 13/10/23 11:32, Rich80105 wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 22:28:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/national-mp-in-key-seat-didnt-disclose-big-shareholdingNot a continuation, if they did that it would be copying Labour, but they won't
Oh the hypocrisy! If Luxon is to be taken at this word, this
candidate should be required to resign if he is elected to the list,
and National should remove his endorsement as a candidate for the seat >>>> in any by-election. But the big question there is whether National
just continues with one law for themselves and other standards for
anyone else . . .
do that, they are not that shallow.
Here is another view, with news that Bayly has _five_ Trusts - will
National apply their calls for Michael Wood to resign when one of
their own is caught?
https://norightturn.blogspot.com/2023/10/we-cant-trust-mps-with-trusts.html
Remind me. Is Bayly a Minister, and what portfolio does he hold?
Where is the breach of the Cabinet Manual?
When will Wood (former Minister of Transport) resign?
With (unlikely) hope the electors of Roskill will throw this plonker out.
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 22:28:05 -0000 (UTC), TonyA wrong view - no real evidence.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/national-mp-in-key-seat-didnt-disclose-big-shareholding
Not a continuation, if they did that it would be copying Labour, but they >>won't
Oh the hypocrisy! If Luxon is to be taken at this word, this
candidate should be required to resign if he is elected to the list,
and National should remove his endorsement as a candidate for the seat
in any by-election. But the big question there is whether National
just continues with one law for themselves and other standards for
anyone else . . .
do that, they are not that shallow.
Here is another view, with news that Bayly has _five_ Trusts - will
National apply their calls for Michael Wood to resign when one of
their own is caught? >https://norightturn.blogspot.com/2023/10/we-cant-trust-mps-with-trusts.html
On 13/10/23 11:32, Rich80105 wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 22:28:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/national-mp-in-key-seat-didnt-disclose-big-shareholdingNot a continuation, if they did that it would be copying Labour, but they won't
Oh the hypocrisy! If Luxon is to be taken at this word, this
candidate should be required to resign if he is elected to the list,
and National should remove his endorsement as a candidate for the seat >>>> in any by-election. But the big question there is whether National
just continues with one law for themselves and other standards for
anyone else . . .
do that, they are not that shallow.
Here is another view, with news that Bayly has _five_ Trusts - will
National apply their calls for Michael Wood to resign when one of
their own is caught?
https://norightturn.blogspot.com/2023/10/we-cant-trust-mps-with-trusts.html
Remind me. Is Bayly a Minister, and what portfolio does he hold?
Where is the breach of the Cabinet Manual?
When will Wood (former Minister of Transport) resign?
With (unlikely) hope the electors of Roskill will throw this plonker out.
On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 13:05:38 +1300, greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid>It would show nothing of the sort. Does Innocent until proven guilty ring one of your tiny bells?
wrote:
On 13/10/23 11:32, Rich80105 wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 22:28:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not a continuation, if they did that it would be copying Labour, but they >>>>won'thttps://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/national-mp-in-key-seat-didnt-disclose-big-shareholding
Oh the hypocrisy! If Luxon is to be taken at this word, this
candidate should be required to resign if he is elected to the list, >>>>> and National should remove his endorsement as a candidate for the seat >>>>> in any by-election. But the big question there is whether National
just continues with one law for themselves and other standards for
anyone else . . .
do that, they are not that shallow.
Here is another view, with news that Bayly has _five_ Trusts - will
National apply their calls for Michael Wood to resign when one of
their own is caught?
https://norightturn.blogspot.com/2023/10/we-cant-trust-mps-with-trusts.html >>
Remind me. Is Bayly a Minister, and what portfolio does he hold?
Where is the breach of the Cabinet Manual?
When will Wood (former Minister of Transport) resign?
With (unlikely) hope the electors of Roskill will throw this plonker out.
Wood is not standing again for Mt Roskill - given that Bayly is guilty
of the same offence as Wood, he should not be a candidate at the
By-election for the Port Waikato electorate to be held after the 2023 >Election. He is No 15 on the National Party List; if he resigns
immediately he will almost certainly be replaced by another National
Party List candidate.
For National to leave him there would be confirmation that they
condone actions that they condemned when Michael Wood was found to
have offended against disclosure requirements.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 13:05:38 +1300, greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid> >>wrote:It would show nothing of the sort. Does Innocent until proven guilty ring one >of your tiny bells?
On 13/10/23 11:32, Rich80105 wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 22:28:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not a continuation, if they did that it would be copying Labour, but they >>>>>won'thttps://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/national-mp-in-key-seat-didnt-disclose-big-shareholding
Oh the hypocrisy! If Luxon is to be taken at this word, this
candidate should be required to resign if he is elected to the list, >>>>>> and National should remove his endorsement as a candidate for the seat >>>>>> in any by-election. But the big question there is whether National >>>>>> just continues with one law for themselves and other standards for >>>>>> anyone else . . .
do that, they are not that shallow.
Here is another view, with news that Bayly has _five_ Trusts - will
National apply their calls for Michael Wood to resign when one of
their own is caught?
https://norightturn.blogspot.com/2023/10/we-cant-trust-mps-with-trusts.html
Remind me. Is Bayly a Minister, and what portfolio does he hold?
Where is the breach of the Cabinet Manual?
When will Wood (former Minister of Transport) resign?
With (unlikely) hope the electors of Roskill will throw this plonker out.
Wood is not standing again for Mt Roskill - given that Bayly is guilty
of the same offence as Wood, he should not be a candidate at the >>By-election for the Port Waikato electorate to be held after the 2023 >>Election. He is No 15 on the National Party List; if he resigns >>immediately he will almost certainly be replaced by another National
Party List candidate.
For National to leave him there would be confirmation that they
condone actions that they condemned when Michael Wood was found to
have offended against disclosure requirements.
On 2023-10-13, greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
On 13/10/23 11:32, Rich80105 wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 22:28:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/national-mp-in-key-seat-didnt-disclose-big-shareholdingNot a continuation, if they did that it would be copying Labour, but they won't
Oh the hypocrisy! If Luxon is to be taken at this word, this
candidate should be required to resign if he is elected to the list, >>>>> and National should remove his endorsement as a candidate for the seat >>>>> in any by-election. But the big question there is whether National
just continues with one law for themselves and other standards for
anyone else . . .
do that, they are not that shallow.
Here is another view, with news that Bayly has _five_ Trusts - will
National apply their calls for Michael Wood to resign when one of
their own is caught?
https://norightturn.blogspot.com/2023/10/we-cant-trust-mps-with-trusts.html >>
Remind me. Is Bayly a Minister, and what portfolio does he hold?
Where is the breach of the Cabinet Manual?
The public are not impressed by shady activities of the elected people.
There needs to be a requirement that all MPs declare there possible conflict >of interests.
When will Wood (former Minister of Transport) resign?
With (unlikely) hope the electors of Roskill will throw this plonker out.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Read the article.
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 22:28:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/national-mp-in-key-seat-didnt-disclose-big-shareholding
Not a continuation, if they did that it would be copying Labour, but they >>>won't
Oh the hypocrisy! If Luxon is to be taken at this word, this
candidate should be required to resign if he is elected to the list, >>>>and National should remove his endorsement as a candidate for the seat >>>>in any by-election. But the big question there is whether National >>>>just continues with one law for themselves and other standards for >>>>anyone else . . .
do that, they are not that shallow.
Here is another view, with news that Bayly has _five_ Trusts - will >>National apply their calls for Michael Wood to resign when one of
their own is caught? >>https://norightturn.blogspot.com/2023/10/we-cant-trust-mps-with-trusts.html >A wrong view - no real evidence.
I thought I was "dead" to you - I am heartbroken to have been resurrected. You >have no commitment other than to lies and sarcasm.
On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 13:05:38 +1300, greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 13/10/23 11:32, Rich80105 wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 22:28:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/national-mp-in-key-seat-didnt-disclose-big-shareholdingNot a continuation, if they did that it would be copying Labour, but they won't
Oh the hypocrisy! If Luxon is to be taken at this word, this
candidate should be required to resign if he is elected to the list, >>>>> and National should remove his endorsement as a candidate for the seat >>>>> in any by-election. But the big question there is whether National
just continues with one law for themselves and other standards for
anyone else . . .
do that, they are not that shallow.
Here is another view, with news that Bayly has _five_ Trusts - will
National apply their calls for Michael Wood to resign when one of
their own is caught?
https://norightturn.blogspot.com/2023/10/we-cant-trust-mps-with-trusts.html >>
Remind me. Is Bayly a Minister, and what portfolio does he hold?
Where is the breach of the Cabinet Manual?
When will Wood (former Minister of Transport) resign?
With (unlikely) hope the electors of Roskill will throw this plonker out.
Wood is not standing again for Mt Roskill - given that Bayly is guilty
of the same offence as Wood, he should not be a candidate at the
By-election for the Port Waikato electorate to be held after the 2023 Election. He is No 15 on the National Party List; if he resigns
immediately he will almost certainly be replaced by another National
Party List candidate.
For National to leave him there would be confirmation that they
condone actions that they condemned when Michael Wood was found to
have offended against disclosure requirements.
On 13 Oct 2023 03:00:19 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Pointless rhetoric.
On 2023-10-13, greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
On 13/10/23 11:32, Rich80105 wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 22:28:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not a continuation, if they did that it would be copying Labour, but they >>>>>won'thttps://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/national-mp-in-key-seat-didnt-disclose-big-shareholding
Oh the hypocrisy! If Luxon is to be taken at this word, this
candidate should be required to resign if he is elected to the list, >>>>>> and National should remove his endorsement as a candidate for the seat >>>>>> in any by-election. But the big question there is whether National >>>>>> just continues with one law for themselves and other standards for >>>>>> anyone else . . .
do that, they are not that shallow.
Here is another view, with news that Bayly has _five_ Trusts - will
National apply their calls for Michael Wood to resign when one of
their own is caught?
https://norightturn.blogspot.com/2023/10/we-cant-trust-mps-with-trusts.html
Remind me. Is Bayly a Minister, and what portfolio does he hold?
Where is the breach of the Cabinet Manual?
The public are not impressed by shady activities of the elected people. >>There needs to be a requirement that all MPs declare there possible conflict >>of interests.
There is - and one of the MPs that called so strongly for a Labour
Minister to go has now been found to have offended himself with a
larger investment, and five other trusts which may contain other
offences. Thus far, National have not made any statement about the >revelations - it will be interesting to see if they will ask him to
not stand for election as the local MP - we may never know if they
would have asked him to resign had a by-election not been needed.
When will Wood (former Minister of Transport) resign?
With (unlikely) hope the electors of Roskill will throw this plonker out.
On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 02:26:41 -0000 (UTC), TonyExactly thank you for proving my point.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 13:05:38 +1300, greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid> >>>wrote:It would show nothing of the sort. Does Innocent until proven guilty ring one >>of your tiny bells?
On 13/10/23 11:32, Rich80105 wrote:Wood is not standing again for Mt Roskill - given that Bayly is guilty
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 22:28:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not a continuation, if they did that it would be copying Labour, but >>>>>>theyhttps://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/national-mp-in-key-seat-didnt-disclose-big-shareholding
Oh the hypocrisy! If Luxon is to be taken at this word, this
candidate should be required to resign if he is elected to the list, >>>>>>> and National should remove his endorsement as a candidate for the seat >>>>>>> in any by-election. But the big question there is whether National >>>>>>> just continues with one law for themselves and other standards for >>>>>>> anyone else . . .
won't
do that, they are not that shallow.
Here is another view, with news that Bayly has _five_ Trusts - will
National apply their calls for Michael Wood to resign when one of
their own is caught?
https://norightturn.blogspot.com/2023/10/we-cant-trust-mps-with-trusts.html
Remind me. Is Bayly a Minister, and what portfolio does he hold?
Where is the breach of the Cabinet Manual?
When will Wood (former Minister of Transport) resign?
With (unlikely) hope the electors of Roskill will throw this plonker out. >>>
of the same offence as Wood, he should not be a candidate at the >>>By-election for the Port Waikato electorate to be held after the 2023 >>>Election. He is No 15 on the National Party List; if he resigns >>>immediately he will almost certainly be replaced by another National >>>Party List candidate.
For National to leave him there would be confirmation that they
condone actions that they condemned when Michael Wood was found to
have offended against disclosure requirements.
From the url above:
"Last night Andrew Bayly, who had been a strong critic of former
Cabinet minister Michael Wood failing to disclose shares, insisted he
had no obligation to disclose his own shares – because they're held in
his family trust, the Paparangi Trust.
That's moot: MPs on Parliament's privileges committee say they
shouldn't have to disclose non-property assets held in trust, but the >Registrar of Pecuniary Interests Sir Maarten Wevers says they do have
to. Even after Wevers confirmed that view earlier this year, and other
MPs updated the register, Bayly made no move to disclose his SiteSoft
shares.
It was the discovery that Michael Wood had shares held in a family
trust that was the final straw in the Prime Minister demanding his >resignation.
In the month leading up to that discovery, Bayly had been scathing.
Speaking in the House on June 6 to oppose Wood's changes to the Health
and Safety at Work Act, Bayly alluded to Wood's undisclosed
shareholding.
Wood was "a casualty of workplace accidents", he told Parliament. "And
no wonder Michael Wood is pushing it through, because, of course, he
is known to have very strong ties to certain organisations that will
want to bring about these sorts of changes, and, personally, I don't
think for the better." "
On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 02:24:53 -0000 (UTC), TonyI did, mere conjecture. No proof.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Read the article.
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 22:28:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/national-mp-in-key-seat-didnt-disclose-big-shareholding
Not a continuation, if they did that it would be copying Labour, but they >>>>won't
Oh the hypocrisy! If Luxon is to be taken at this word, this >>>>>candidate should be required to resign if he is elected to the list, >>>>>and National should remove his endorsement as a candidate for the seat >>>>>in any by-election. But the big question there is whether National >>>>>just continues with one law for themselves and other standards for >>>>>anyone else . . .
do that, they are not that shallow.
Here is another view, with news that Bayly has _five_ Trusts - will >>>National apply their calls for Michael Wood to resign when one of
their own is caught? >>>https://norightturn.blogspot.com/2023/10/we-cant-trust-mps-with-trusts.html >>A wrong view - no real evidence.
No lies from me - from you of course there are lies - it is almost all you have. That and sarcasm.I thought I was "dead" to you - I am heartbroken to have been resurrected. >>You
have no commitment other than to lies and sarcasm.
You are a twonk, but it is desirable that your lies be refuted.
On 13/10/23 13:25, Rich80105 wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 13:05:38 +1300, greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 13/10/23 11:32, Rich80105 wrote:Wood is not standing again for Mt Roskill - given that Bayly is guilty
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 22:28:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/national-mp-in-key-seat-didnt-disclose-big-shareholdingNot a continuation, if they did that it would be copying Labour, but they won't
Oh the hypocrisy! If Luxon is to be taken at this word, this
candidate should be required to resign if he is elected to the list, >>>>>> and National should remove his endorsement as a candidate for the seat >>>>>> in any by-election. But the big question there is whether National >>>>>> just continues with one law for themselves and other standards for >>>>>> anyone else . . .
do that, they are not that shallow.
Here is another view, with news that Bayly has _five_ Trusts - will
National apply their calls for Michael Wood to resign when one of
their own is caught?
https://norightturn.blogspot.com/2023/10/we-cant-trust-mps-with-trusts.html
Remind me. Is Bayly a Minister, and what portfolio does he hold?
Where is the breach of the Cabinet Manual?
When will Wood (former Minister of Transport) resign?
With (unlikely) hope the electors of Roskill will throw this plonker out. >>
of the same offence as Wood, he should not be a candidate at the
By-election for the Port Waikato electorate to be held after the 2023
Election. He is No 15 on the National Party List; if he resigns
immediately he will almost certainly be replaced by another National
Party List candidate.
For National to leave him there would be confirmation that they
condone actions that they condemned when Michael Wood was found to
have offended against disclosure requirements.
Another lie from you. Too easy to check those standing in Roskill
https://vote.nz/2023-general-election/about/2023-general-election/electorate-candidates/?ElectorateType=General+electorates&Electorate=Mt+Roskill&action_filter=View+candidates
On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 16:30:39 +1300, greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid>As usual you guessed or hoped the lie would not be noticed.
wrote:
On 13/10/23 13:25, Rich80105 wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 13:05:38 +1300, greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 13/10/23 11:32, Rich80105 wrote:Wood is not standing again for Mt Roskill - given that Bayly is guilty
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 22:28:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not a continuation, if they did that it would be copying Labour, but >>>>>>they won'thttps://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/national-mp-in-key-seat-didnt-disclose-big-shareholding
Oh the hypocrisy! If Luxon is to be taken at this word, this
candidate should be required to resign if he is elected to the list, >>>>>>> and National should remove his endorsement as a candidate for the seat >>>>>>> in any by-election. But the big question there is whether National >>>>>>> just continues with one law for themselves and other standards for >>>>>>> anyone else . . .
do that, they are not that shallow.
Here is another view, with news that Bayly has _five_ Trusts - will
National apply their calls for Michael Wood to resign when one of
their own is caught?
https://norightturn.blogspot.com/2023/10/we-cant-trust-mps-with-trusts.html
Remind me. Is Bayly a Minister, and what portfolio does he hold?
Where is the breach of the Cabinet Manual?
When will Wood (former Minister of Transport) resign?
With (unlikely) hope the electors of Roskill will throw this plonker out. >>>
of the same offence as Wood, he should not be a candidate at the
By-election for the Port Waikato electorate to be held after the 2023
Election. He is No 15 on the National Party List; if he resigns
immediately he will almost certainly be replaced by another National
Party List candidate.
For National to leave him there would be confirmation that they
condone actions that they condemned when Michael Wood was found to
have offended against disclosure requirements.
Another lie from you. Too easy to check those standing in Roskill
https://vote.nz/2023-general-election/about/2023-general-election/electorate-candidates/?ElectorateType=General+electorates&Electorate=Mt+Roskill&action_filter=View+candidates
Thanks greybeard - I do apologise; I had thought he was not standing
again.
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 22:28:05 -0000 (UTC), TonyIt would have been better if you had provided a less biased cite Rich. It'd also have helped your cause if Wood hadn't needed was it twelve reminders to sell his shares? If this guy repeats Wood's actions you'll have something to bitch about. Until then.
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/national-mp-in-key-seat-didnt-disclose-big-shareholdingHere is another view, with news that Bayly has _five_ Trusts - will
Not a continuation, if they did that it would be copying Labour, but they won't
Oh the hypocrisy! If Luxon is to be taken at this word, this
candidate should be required to resign if he is elected to the list,
and National should remove his endorsement as a candidate for the seat >>in any by-election. But the big question there is whether National
just continues with one law for themselves and other standards for >>anyone else . . .
do that, they are not that shallow.
National apply their calls for Michael Wood to resign when one of
their own is caught? https://norightturn.blogspot.com/2023/10/we-cant-trust-mps-with-trusts.html
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