Whangarei is resisting the government fluoridation push:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/499402/whangarei-district-council-baulks-over-government-fluoridation-mandate
*All* should resist this new forced poisoning of the people. You
would think that "greenies" would oppose all pollution of our water
supply, but lefties love anything which is mandatory,
"DO NOT COMPLY" will be the catch-phrase of the 2020's.
On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 05:02:42 GMT, willy...@qwert.com (Willy Nilly)
wrote:
Whangarei is resisting the government fluoridation push:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/499402/whangarei-district-council-baulks-over-government-fluoridation-mandate
*All* should resist this new forced poisoning of the people. You
would think that "greenies" would oppose all pollution of our water >supply, but lefties love anything which is mandatory,
"DO NOT COMPLY" will be the catch-phrase of the 2020's.Any area that refuses fluoridation should not be eligible for free
dental care . . .
Fluoridation, together with one of the additives to bread, must be
among the most benign but effective mass additives that are commonly required by many countries. I can remember when it was introduced (my parents had purchased toothpaste with fluoride in it for use a year or
so earlier) and dentists remember the huge impact it had on dental
care, particularly for young children. It has been provided in major
cities for many years now, with no ill effects observed.
If you think there is any "poisoning" involved in normal fluoridationLarge quantities of fluoride are toxic Rich. So it depends on quantity as to whether it's beneficial or harmful!
of drinking water, please do amuse us all by trying to find convincing evidence . . .
If you think there is any "poisoning" involved in normal fluoridation
of drinking water, please do amuse us all by trying to find convincing >evidence . . .
Whangarei is resisting the government fluoridation push:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/499402/whangarei-district-council-baulks-over-government-fluoridation-mandate
*All* should resist this new forced poisoning of the people. You
would think that "greenies" would oppose all pollution of our water
supply, but lefties love anything which is mandatory,
"DO NOT COMPLY" will be the catch-phrase of the 2020's.
On Wed, 04 Oct 2023, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
If you think there is any "poisoning" involved in normal fluoridation
of drinking water, please do amuse us all by trying to find convincing >>evidence . . .
Your shoe is waaaay on the wrong foot, Rich. What if there are 10
eligible chemicals to add to our drinking water, and we have to "find convincing evidence" that each is unsafe to prevent it from being
added? This is the Pandora's box that fluoridation opens.
The only way to protect our drinking water is to require that it be
kept pure,
to draw the line at adding anything at all. Chlorine is
needed to sterilise it from pathogens, so that's ok.
Fluoride is a
pollutant (and for your information, a hazmat suit is need to handle
the chemical, it is so toxic), so must be excluded on the principle to
keep our water pure -- and the people safe.
On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 05:02:42 GMT, willynilly@qwert.com (Willy Nilly)
wrote:
Whangarei is resisting the government fluoridation push:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/499402/whangarei-district-council-baulks-over-government-fluoridation-mandate
*All* should resist this new forced poisoning of the people. You
would think that "greenies" would oppose all pollution of our water
supply, but lefties love anything which is mandatory,
"DO NOT COMPLY" will be the catch-phrase of the 2020's.
Any area that refuses fluoridation should not be eligible for free
dental care . . .
Fluoridation, together with one of the additives to bread, must be
among the most benign but effective mass additives that are commonly
required by many countries. I can remember when it was introduced (my
parents had purchased toothpaste with fluoride in it for use a year or
so earlier) and dentists remember the huge impact it had on dental
care, particularly for young children. It has been provided in major
cities for many years now, with no ill effects observed.
It will be interesting to see if National thinks there are any votes
in this - I suspect they will try to avoid all comment if they can. It
may however be a good test of whether ACT can resist displaying its
purported "libertarian" side - find an issue that is small enough and
pretend that people should be able to do what they want, including
harming others that do not agree with them. I suspect that on most
things ACT is as authoritarian as National, but it saw an opportunity
with "Freedumb" nutters coming out of the Covid period in pretending
that restrictions had been unreasonable. Certainly ACT does not
display much of that in allowing their MPs other than Seymour to speak
on most things - if anything they run a more tightly controlled caucus
than National.
If you think there is any "poisoning" involved in normal fluoridation
of drinking water, please do amuse us all by trying to find convincing evidence . . .
On Wednesday, 4 October 2023 at 18:03:40 UTC+13, Willy Nilly wrote:water instead.
Whangarei is resisting the government fluoridation push:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/499402/whangarei-district-council-baulks-over-government-fluoridation-mandate
*All* should resist this new forced poisoning of the people. You
would think that "greenies" would oppose all pollution of our water
supply, but lefties love anything which is mandatory,
"DO NOT COMPLY" will be the catch-phrase of the 2020's.
Auckland water has been fluoridated for decades. Fluoridation at levels used is entirely safe and shown to significantly reduce tooth decay in the population. If you don't like it you can always capture and drink rain water or use unfluoridated bottled
Whangarei should do what it's residents democratically request, which is likely to be fluoridated water (assuming there's not a preponderance of tinfoil hat wearers up there). However if they choose to go unfluoridated then they should also lose anygovernment dental subsidies. That would be a shame as Whangarei would become the gap-tooth capital of in NZ.
Whangarei should do what it's residents democratically request,
which is likely to be fluoridated water (assuming there's not a
preponderance of tinfoil hat wearers up there).
FFS Bill, the the gummint is far, far too incompetent to arrange
sufficient vaccine distribution to intelligent, sane, healthy people
who want to get it. You'd have to be deep in tinfoil hat land to
think they are going to have the wherewithal to track down the
wierdos who are afraid of it and force it on them.
If you don't want to learn from the TV, radio or newspapers then I
would recommend against the internet and suggest you seek medical
advice from your GP. Or is he part of the grand conspiracy too?
Read my lips: There will be no coerced vaccination in NZ.
Ever.
Anyone who thinks there will be, is
bat.
shit.
crazy.
On Wed, 4 Oct 2023, JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Whangarei should do what it's residents democratically request,What do you know about tinfoil hat wearers, JohnO? Didn't you learn
which is likely to be fluoridated water (assuming there's not a preponderance of tinfoil hat wearers up there).
anything after making the following posting in Bill's 2021 thread "I
won't be getting one Chippy, you goose-stepping little tyrant.":
On Sat, 10 Jul 2021, JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
FFS Bill, the the gummint is far, far too incompetent to arrange >sufficient vaccine distribution to intelligent, sane, healthy people
who want to get it. You'd have to be deep in tinfoil hat land to
think they are going to have the wherewithal to track down the
wierdos who are afraid of it and force it on them.
If you don't want to learn from the TV, radio or newspapers then I
would recommend against the internet and suggest you seek medical
advice from your GP. Or is he part of the grand conspiracy too?
Read my lips: There will be no coerced vaccination in NZ.
Ever.
Anyone who thinks there will be, is
bat.
shit.
crazy.
On 2023-10-04, Willy Nilly <willynilly@qwert.com> wrote:
Chlorine is
needed to sterilise it from pathogens, so that's ok.
What? You are now making exceptions.
On Thursday, 5 October 2023 at 10:47:41 UTC+13, Willy Nilly wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jul 2021, JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Read my lips: There will be no coerced vaccination in NZ.
Did anyone get held down and vaccinated? Nope. My point above
was simpy that there was no legal requirement to be vaccinated. Don't
change that statement by adding any other detail. Lots of people never
got vaccinated. Ipso facto there was no coerced vaccination.
On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 03:18:53 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 10:31:46?PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 05:02:42 GMT, willy...@qwert.com (Willy Nilly)
wrote:
Whangarei is resisting the government fluoridation push:Any area that refuses fluoridation should not be eligible for free
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/499402/whangarei-district-council-baulks-over-government-fluoridation-mandate
*All* should resist this new forced poisoning of the people. You
would think that "greenies" would oppose all pollution of our water
supply, but lefties love anything which is mandatory,
"DO NOT COMPLY" will be the catch-phrase of the 2020's.
dental care . . .
Unless it was put to the local population this is just another Ardern moment with Labours attitude to those who chose not to get vaccinated!No lies, just truths you cannot refute:
Like Ardern you limit your compassion only to those who obey your Labour government Rich!
<political lies snipped>
Fluoridation, together with one of the additives to bread, must be
among the most benign but effective mass additives that are commonly
required by many countries. I can remember when it was introduced (my
parents had purchased toothpaste with fluoride in it for use a year or
so earlier) and dentists remember the huge impact it had on dental
care, particularly for young children. It has been provided in major
cities for many years now, with no ill effects observed.
"It will be interesting to see if National thinks there are any votes
in this - I suspect they will try to avoid all comment if they can. It
may however be a good test of whether ACT can resist displaying its purported "libertarian" side - find an issue that is small enough and pretend that people should be able to do what they want, including
harming others that do not agree with them. I suspect that on most
things ACT is as authoritarian as National, but it saw an opportunity
with "Freedumb" nutters coming out of the Covid period in pretending
that restrictions had been unreasonable. Certainly ACT does not
display much of that in allowing their MPs other than Seymour to speak
on most things - if anything they run a more tightly controlled caucus
than National."
So has anyone from National made any comments at all on this issue?
The same is true of Chlorine and other chemicals used to ensure ourIf you think there is any "poisoning" involved in normal fluoridationLarge quantities of fluoride are toxic Rich. So it depends on quantity as to whether it's beneficial or harmful!
of drinking water, please do amuse us all by trying to find convincing
evidence . . .
water is fit to drink. Do you have any evidence of harm caused by the
normal addition of fluoride to town water supply? Your irrelevant red
erring is not at all convincing.
On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 10:31:46?PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:No lies, just truths you cannot refute:
On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 05:02:42 GMT, willy...@qwert.com (Willy Nilly)
wrote:
Whangarei is resisting the government fluoridation push:Any area that refuses fluoridation should not be eligible for free
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/499402/whangarei-district-council-baulks-over-government-fluoridation-mandate
*All* should resist this new forced poisoning of the people. You
would think that "greenies" would oppose all pollution of our water
supply, but lefties love anything which is mandatory,
"DO NOT COMPLY" will be the catch-phrase of the 2020's.
dental care . . .
Unless it was put to the local population this is just another Ardern moment with Labours attitude to those who chose not to get vaccinated!
Like Ardern you limit your compassion only to those who obey your Labour government Rich!
<political lies snipped>
Fluoridation, together with one of the additives to bread, must be
among the most benign but effective mass additives that are commonly
required by many countries. I can remember when it was introduced (my
parents had purchased toothpaste with fluoride in it for use a year or
so earlier) and dentists remember the huge impact it had on dental
care, particularly for young children. It has been provided in major
cities for many years now, with no ill effects observed.
If you think there is any "poisoning" involved in normal fluoridationLarge quantities of fluoride are toxic Rich. So it depends on quantity as to whether it's beneficial or harmful!
of drinking water, please do amuse us all by trying to find convincing
evidence . . .
On Wednesday, 4 October 2023 at 18:03:40 UTC+13, Willy Nilly wrote:
Whangarei is resisting the government fluoridation push:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/499402/whangarei-district-council-baulks-over-government-fluoridation-mandate
*All* should resist this new forced poisoning of the people. You
would think that "greenies" would oppose all pollution of our water
supply, but lefties love anything which is mandatory,
"DO NOT COMPLY" will be the catch-phrase of the 2020's.
Auckland water has been fluoridated for decades. Fluoridation at levels used is
entirely safe and shown to significantly reduce tooth decay in the population.
If you don't like it you can always capture and drink rain water or use unfluoridated bottled water instead.
Whangarei should do what it's residents democratically request, which is likely
to be fluoridated water (assuming there's not a preponderance of tinfoil hat wearers up there). However if they choose to go unfluoridated then they should
also lose any government dental subsidies. That would be a shame as Whangarei would become the gap-tooth capital of in NZ.
On 2023-10-04, JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, 4 October 2023 at 18:03:40 UTC+13, Willy Nilly wrote:
Whangarei is resisting the government fluoridation push:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/499402/whangarei-district-council-baulks-over-government-fluoridation-mandate
*All* should resist this new forced poisoning of the people. You
would think that "greenies" would oppose all pollution of our water
supply, but lefties love anything which is mandatory,
"DO NOT COMPLY" will be the catch-phrase of the 2020's.
Auckland water has been fluoridated for decades. Fluoridation at levels used isTrue. However what about conformed consent. To the people of Auckland know/understand the risks of drink fluoridated water? (Comparasion with the Covid vaccines and the Government's narrative where it was one size fits
entirely safe and shown to significantly reduce tooth decay in the population.
If you don't like it you can always capture and drink rain water or use unfluoridated bottled water instead.
all)
Is it easier/cheaper to get it out or put it in? Then is a case of 51% in favour or 95% in favour.
Whangarei should do what it's residents democratically request, which is likelyWell, it maybe the case if the not pay no dose, which you are suggesting applies.
to be fluoridated water (assuming there's not a preponderance of tinfoil hat
wearers up there). However if they choose to go unfluoridated then they should
also lose any government dental subsidies. That would be a shame as Whangarei
would become the gap-tooth capital of in NZ.
The City should also get the education/debate of the pro and cons of fluorine.
The flourine debate has gone on for years, and like abortion it is very unlikely to be "settled" in the next 50 years.
On Wed, 4 Oct 2023, JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, 5 October 2023 at 10:47:41 UTC+13, Willy Nilly wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jul 2021, JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Read my lips: There will be no coerced vaccination in NZ.
Did anyone get held down and vaccinated? Nope. My point aboveUnlike Humpty Dumpty, JohnO, you don't get to define your own words.
was simpy that there was no legal requirement to be vaccinated. Don't >change that statement by adding any other detail. Lots of people never
got vaccinated. Ipso facto there was no coerced vaccination.
Oxford gives "coerce" as "persuade (an unwilling person) to do
something by using force or threats". The employment mandates
*totally* met that definition in the "threats" department -- get
jabbed or lose your job and your ability to support your family.
You don't get to say "I didn't mean what I explicitly said". Calling
"tinfoil hat" is not effective so long as you keep wearing one too.
On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 1:25:32 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 03:18:53 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 10:31:46?PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 05:02:42 GMT, willy...@qwert.com (Willy Nilly)
wrote:
Whangarei is resisting the government fluoridation push:Any area that refuses fluoridation should not be eligible for free
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/499402/whangarei-district-council-baulks-over-government-fluoridation-mandate
*All* should resist this new forced poisoning of the people. You
would think that "greenies" would oppose all pollution of our water
supply, but lefties love anything which is mandatory,
"DO NOT COMPLY" will be the catch-phrase of the 2020's.
dental care . . .
Being your supposed opinion Rich it's guaranteed there are lies!Unless it was put to the local population this is just another Ardern moment with Labours attitude to those who chose not to get vaccinated!No lies, just truths you cannot refute:
Like Ardern you limit your compassion only to those who obey your Labour government Rich!
<political lies snipped>
Fluoridation, together with one of the additives to bread, must be
among the most benign but effective mass additives that are commonly
required by many countries. I can remember when it was introduced (my >> parents had purchased toothpaste with fluoride in it for use a year or >> so earlier) and dentists remember the huge impact it had on dental
care, particularly for young children. It has been provided in major
cities for many years now, with no ill effects observed.
"It will be interesting to see if National thinks there are any votesNone apart from the FACT that fluoride is in fact a poison.
in this - I suspect they will try to avoid all comment if they can. It
may however be a good test of whether ACT can resist displaying its purported "libertarian" side - find an issue that is small enough and pretend that people should be able to do what they want, including
harming others that do not agree with them. I suspect that on most
things ACT is as authoritarian as National, but it saw an opportunity
with "Freedumb" nutters coming out of the Covid period in pretending
that restrictions had been unreasonable. Certainly ACT does not
display much of that in allowing their MPs other than Seymour to speak
on most things - if anything they run a more tightly controlled caucus than National."
So has anyone from National made any comments at all on this issue?
The same is true of Chlorine and other chemicals used to ensure ourIf you think there is any "poisoning" involved in normal fluoridation >> of drinking water, please do amuse us all by trying to find convincing >> evidence . . .Large quantities of fluoride are toxic Rich. So it depends on quantity as to whether it's beneficial or harmful!
water is fit to drink. Do you have any evidence of harm caused by the normal addition of fluoride to town water supply? Your irrelevant red erring is not at all convincing.
Can you prove it's not?
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