• Dingbat Labour want to assist another Foreigh owned company

    From JohnO@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 1 17:35:41 2023
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/10/election-2023-labour-wants-to-help-bring-new-supermarket-competitor-to-new-zealand.html

    Idiots who want play with taxpayer funds like it is Monopoly money.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Euall B. Tode on Sun Oct 1 19:46:16 2023
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 3:27:18 PM UTC+13, Euall B. Tode wrote:
    JohnO wrote:

    Dingbat Labour want to assist another Foreigh owned company https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/10/election-2023-labour-wants-to-help-bring-new-supermarket-competitor-to-new-zealand.html
    Idiots who want play with taxpayer funds like it is Monopoly money.
    Funny how that was not JohnO's position when it was National assisting another foreign owned company.

    Increasing competition requires investment. Better to spend a dollar to
    save two than to do nothing.

    It is sad how party fanboys on any side can be ideologically blinded to
    such simple things except of course when it is their own side doing it.

    What utter shit! National are all for business and always have been. Unlike the toxic and feral Labour party they understand business means growth! Labour on the other hand after years of doing their best to cripple business just happen to propose to
    support new business after they've attacked the grocery duopoly. Right before an election! Wow!

    The trouble is after six years of Labours failed promises people like JohnO and me understand that a Labour promise is like the morning mist and disappears in the morning sun. although with their current poling it's liable to be the toxic and feral
    Labour party that will hopefully disappear like mist in the morning sun. So Labour seem to be convinced they've lost and make ever more extravagant promises in the hope they'll swing voters and Labour can ignore them if they're lucky enough to win!

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  • From Euall B. Tode@21:1/5 to JohnO on Mon Oct 2 15:27:12 2023
    JohnO wrote:

    Dingbat Labour want to assist another Foreigh owned company https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/10/election-2023-labour-wants-to-help-bring-new-supermarket-competitor-to-new-zealand.html
    Idiots who want play with taxpayer funds like it is Monopoly money.

    Funny how that was not JohnO's position when it was National assisting
    another foreign owned company.

    Increasing competition requires investment. Better to spend a dollar to
    save two than to do nothing.

    It is sad how party fanboys on any side can be ideologically blinded to
    such simple things except of course when it is their own side doing it.

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to JohnO on Mon Oct 2 04:02:36 2023
    On 2023-10-02, JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/10/election-2023-labour-wants-to-help-bring-new-supermarket-competitor-to-new-zealand.html

    Idiots who want play with taxpayer funds like it is Monopoly money.


    Well at last the election seems to be showing some signs of action.

    At the bottom of the article we have a name for the Grocery Commisioner

    Quote

    "Pierre van Heerden, the former head of Mojo Coffee, was earlier this year appointed as New Zealand's first Grocery Commissioner. He is tasked with keeping the current supermarket duopoly honest and blowing the whistle
    on any suspected issues.

    On top of setting up the Commissioner, Labour has also required major
    grocery retailers to open wholesale offerings so other grocery retailers
    have direct access to a range of wholesale groceries at competitive prices.

    Restrictive land agreements that locked new entrants out of the best
    locations have also been banned."

    Unquote

    Now at https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/133039988/live-christopher-luxon-a-no-go-for-alternative-press-leaders-debate

    we have the Grocery Commisioner metioned by Luxon

    Quote

    "National leader Christopher Luxon says serious penalties are needed if
    there's anything anti-competitive found in Sanitarium's decision to not
    supply Weet-Bix to The Warehouse.

    Sanitarium has cited supply issues for removing the breakfast staple
    from shelves at The Warehouse, which has asked the Commerce Commission
    to investigate.

    Talking to reporters on Monday, Luxon said it was important to find
    out what was driving Sanitarium's decision.

    That was the point of having a Grocery Commissioner, and having a
    strong code with some teeth, "to burrow in and find out what's going on".

    "I'm very supportive of them doing a full bore review of what's
    happened there," Luxon said.

    The Grocery Commissioner needed to understand, "has there been pressure
    applied by the retailers on the manufacturer? Is this a decision from the manufacturer alone, independently of the other two retailers that are in
    the marketplace?"

    There would be a number of variables behind it, Luxon said.

    "It underscores that what we want to see is a Grocery Commissioner with
    a code that has some real teeth and some real bite to it, to actually
    make sure that if there's anything anti-competitive that's gone on here
    that it's flushed out, and there are serious penalties for it.

    "And if it's still not working we'll go further, down the road."

    Unquote.

    So this does look like the Grocery Commissioner is hear to stay and both
    Labour and National agree on this. It should also allow the Government to
    get out of the way and let the Commissioner rule okay. However it seems
    that Labour want to be helpful with some taxpayers money.

    This changes things and gets the Government tangled up in the market. It is
    not like housing, or roads even, where there is not enough supply, there is enough food (supply) to go round, if one has the money.

    Keep attacking the anti competitive side and the public will be with the Government all the way. How many votes would this produce at the next
    election in 2026?

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  • From BR@21:1/5 to euser@mail.invalid on Mon Oct 2 17:31:36 2023
    On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 15:27:12 +1300, "Euall B. Tode"
    <euser@mail.invalid> wrote:

    JohnO wrote:

    Dingbat Labour want to assist another Foreigh owned company
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/10/election-2023-labour-wants-to-help-bring-new-supermarket-competitor-to-new-zealand.html
    Idiots who want play with taxpayer funds like it is Monopoly money.

    Funny how that was not JohnO's position when it was National assisting >another foreign owned company.

    Increasing competition requires investment. Better to spend a dollar to
    save two than to do nothing.

    It is sad how party fanboys on any side can be ideologically blinded to
    such simple things except of course when it is their own side doing it.

    Is that you Mowithey?

    Bill.

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