https://www.robbos.co.nz/
On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:09:11 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.robbos.co.nz/
Right up your alley, Right, John Bowes?
Registrant contact
Registrant Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Registrant Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Registrant Contact City Wellington
Registrant Contact Postal Code 6143
Registrant Contact Country NZ
Registrant Contact Phone +64 42820300
Registrant Contact Email jor...@taxpayers.org.nz
Admin contact
Admin Contact Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Admin Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Admin Contact City Wellington
Admin Contact Postal Code 6143
Admin Contact Country NZ
Admin Contact Phone +64 42820300
Admin Contact Email jor...@taxpayers.org.nz
Credit to the NZ Taxpayer Union however - they were not trying to hide
their involvement this time - right at the bottom of the website
(where few are likely to get to) it says
"Promoted by the New Zealand Taxpayers' Union, 117 Lambton Quay,
Wellington, 6011"
So much for the NZ Taxpayer Union being non-partisan as your nutter
friend claimed recently.
Now the graphics on the site suggest that Australia is where people
are moving, and the first (and presumably most important) reason they
are claimed to be moving is to get lower taxes .
Look at this: https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/global/2022-international-tax-competitiveness-index/#Rankings
We see that New Zealand is more competitive than all other countries
than Estonia and Latvia!
Australia is 11th - lower taxes than many countries, but a long way
from getting as low as New Zealand.
The rest of the lies and misleading statements are what we have come
to expect from the ACT / Nat "Dirty Tricks" team . . .
The effective admission of such a lack of any morals or honestyDid you notice a little whoosh when you started reading and posted your garbage Rich?
inherent in this website should give even supporters of the parties of
the right cause for reflection - not once have Luxon or Seymour tried
to dissociate themselves or their parties from such disgraceful
dishonesty. No wonder NZ First is getting such support leaking from
those parties.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:09:11 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:Clearly the article fooled you completely.
https://www.robbos.co.nz/
Right up your alley, Right, John Bowes?
Registrant contact
Registrant Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Registrant Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Registrant Contact City Wellington
Registrant Contact Postal Code 6143
Registrant Contact Country NZ
Registrant Contact Phone +64 42820300
Registrant Contact Email jordan@taxpayers.org.nz
Admin contact
Admin Contact Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Admin Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Admin Contact City Wellington
Admin Contact Postal Code 6143
Admin Contact Country NZ
Admin Contact Phone +64 42820300
Admin Contact Email jordan@taxpayers.org.nz
Credit to the NZ Taxpayer Union however - they were not trying to hide >>their involvement this time - right at the bottom of the website
(where few are likely to get to) it says
"Promoted by the New Zealand Taxpayers' Union, 117 Lambton Quay, >>Wellington, 6011"
So much for the NZ Taxpayer Union being non-partisan as your nutter
friend claimed recently.
Now the graphics on the site suggest that Australia is where people
are moving, and the first (and presumably most important) reason they
are claimed to be moving is to get lower taxes .
Look at this: >>https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/global/2022-international-tax-competitiveness-index/#Rankings
We see that New Zealand is more competitive than all other countries
than Estonia and Latvia!
Australia is 11th - lower taxes than many countries, but a long way
from getting as low as New Zealand.
The rest of the lies and misleading statements are what we have come
to expect from the ACT / Nat "Dirty Tricks" team . . .
The effective admission of such a lack of any morals or honesty
inherent in this website should give even supporters of the parties of
the right cause for reflection - not once have Luxon or Seymour tried
to dissociate themselves or their parties from such disgraceful
dishonesty. No wonder NZ First is getting such support leaking from
those parties.
It is obviously satire and nothing to do with political support, but once your >mind is made up it is set in concrete.
There are no lies - it is satire you indomitable twerp, it is not supposed to >be accurate.
On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:09:11 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.robbos.co.nz/
Right up your alley, Right, John Bowes?
Registrant contact
Registrant Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Registrant Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Registrant Contact City Wellington
Registrant Contact Postal Code 6143
Registrant Contact Country NZ
Registrant Contact Phone +64 42820300
Registrant Contact Email jordan@taxpayers.org.nz
Admin contact
Admin Contact Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Admin Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Admin Contact City Wellington
Admin Contact Postal Code 6143
Admin Contact Country NZ
Admin Contact Phone +64 42820300
Admin Contact Email jordan@taxpayers.org.nz
Credit to the NZ Taxpayer Union however - they were not trying to hideClearly the article fooled you completely.
their involvement this time - right at the bottom of the website
(where few are likely to get to) it says
"Promoted by the New Zealand Taxpayers' Union, 117 Lambton Quay,
Wellington, 6011"
So much for the NZ Taxpayer Union being non-partisan as your nutter
friend claimed recently.
Now the graphics on the site suggest that Australia is where people
are moving, and the first (and presumably most important) reason they
are claimed to be moving is to get lower taxes .
Look at this: >https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/global/2022-international-tax-competitiveness-index/#Rankings
We see that New Zealand is more competitive than all other countries
than Estonia and Latvia!
Australia is 11th - lower taxes than many countries, but a long way
from getting as low as New Zealand.
The rest of the lies and misleading statements are what we have come
to expect from the ACT / Nat "Dirty Tricks" team . . .
The effective admission of such a lack of any morals or honesty
inherent in this website should give even supporters of the parties of
the right cause for reflection - not once have Luxon or Seymour tried
to dissociate themselves or their parties from such disgraceful
dishonesty. No wonder NZ First is getting such support leaking from
those parties.
On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 00:20:54 -0000 (UTC), TonyWhat a meaningless bity of nonsense that paragraph is.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:09:11 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:Clearly the article fooled you completely.
https://www.robbos.co.nz/
Right up your alley, Right, John Bowes?
Registrant contact
Registrant Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Registrant Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Registrant Contact City Wellington
Registrant Contact Postal Code 6143
Registrant Contact Country NZ
Registrant Contact Phone +64 42820300
Registrant Contact Email jordan@taxpayers.org.nz
Admin contact
Admin Contact Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Admin Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Admin Contact City Wellington
Admin Contact Postal Code 6143
Admin Contact Country NZ
Admin Contact Phone +64 42820300
Admin Contact Email jordan@taxpayers.org.nz
Credit to the NZ Taxpayer Union however - they were not trying to hide >>>their involvement this time - right at the bottom of the website
(where few are likely to get to) it says
"Promoted by the New Zealand Taxpayers' Union, 117 Lambton Quay, >>>Wellington, 6011"
So much for the NZ Taxpayer Union being non-partisan as your nutter >>>friend claimed recently.
Now the graphics on the site suggest that Australia is where people
are moving, and the first (and presumably most important) reason they
are claimed to be moving is to get lower taxes .
Look at this: >>>https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/global/2022-international-tax-competitiveness-index/#Rankings
We see that New Zealand is more competitive than all other countries
than Estonia and Latvia!
Australia is 11th - lower taxes than many countries, but a long way
from getting as low as New Zealand.
The rest of the lies and misleading statements are what we have come
to expect from the ACT / Nat "Dirty Tricks" team . . .
The effective admission of such a lack of any morals or honesty
inherent in this website should give even supporters of the parties of >>>the right cause for reflection - not once have Luxon or Seymour tried
to dissociate themselves or their parties from such disgraceful >>>dishonesty. No wonder NZ First is getting such support leaking from
those parties.
It is obviously satire and nothing to do with political support, but once >>your
mind is made up it is set in concrete.
There are no lies - it is satire you indomitable twerp, it is not supposed to >>be accurate.
Well that is a nice try, Tony; and you are of course correct - if it
was not supposed to be accurate it is 100% successful in being wrong.
Slight problem with that of course is when a deliberately inaccurate >statement becomes a deliberate lie - only the "Dirty Tricks" sponsors
could possibly try to square that circle without condemning themselves
to admitting to peddling lies . . .
So if it is nothing to do with political support, perhaps you couldAlready have, it is satire you know SATIRE - look it up.
enlighten us with why it was done at all . . . . . ???
Will it be followed by satire about costings of a policy to raiseWho knows, could be people who want to make satirical comment about anything. Maybe somebody will make satire about sociopaths but personally I wouldn't do that, it would be cruel.
money from allowing foreigners to buy property that only take a single
line on a page . . . by satire about the number of ACT candidates
that have quietly dropped off their list; by satire about how tax cuts
for the wealthy 'trickle down' without wetting Luxon's leg on the way
down . . .
On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:09:11 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.robbos.co.nz/
Right up your alley, Right, John Bowes?
Registrant contact
Registrant Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Registrant Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Registrant Contact City Wellington
Registrant Contact Postal Code 6143
Registrant Contact Country NZ
Registrant Contact Phone +64 42820300
Registrant Contact Email jordan@taxpayers.org.nz
Admin contact
Admin Contact Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Admin Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Admin Contact City Wellington
Admin Contact Postal Code 6143
Admin Contact Country NZ
Admin Contact Phone +64 42820300
Admin Contact Email jordan@taxpayers.org.nz
Credit to the NZ Taxpayer Union however - they were not trying to hide
their involvement this time - right at the bottom of the website
(where few are likely to get to) it says
"Promoted by the New Zealand Taxpayers' Union, 117 Lambton Quay,
Wellington, 6011"
So much for the NZ Taxpayer Union being non-partisan as your nutter
friend claimed recently.
Now the graphics on the site suggest that Australia is where people
are moving, and the first (and presumably most important) reason they
are claimed to be moving is to get lower taxes .
Look at this: https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/global/2022-international-tax-competitiveness-index/#Rankings
We see that New Zealand is more competitive than all other countries
than Estonia and Latvia!
Australia is 11th - lower taxes than many countries, but a long way
from getting as low as New Zealand.
The rest of the lies and misleading statements are what we have come
to expect from the ACT / Nat "Dirty Tricks" team . . .
The effective admission of such a lack of any morals or honesty
inherent in this website should give even supporters of the parties of
the right cause for reflection - not once have Luxon or Seymour tried
to dissociate themselves or their parties from such disgraceful
dishonesty. No wonder NZ First is getting such support leaking from
those parties.
https://www.robbos.co.nz/
On 2023-09-25, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Rich would prefer to believe the articles from No Right Turn because he "knows" they are honest just like he "knows" the TPU is a political organisation.
On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:09:11 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.robbos.co.nz/
Right up your alley, Right, John Bowes?
Registrant contact
Registrant Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Registrant Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Registrant Contact City Wellington
Registrant Contact Postal Code 6143
Registrant Contact Country NZ
Registrant Contact Phone +64 42820300
Registrant Contact Email jordan@taxpayers.org.nz
Admin contact
Admin Contact Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Admin Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Admin Contact City Wellington
Admin Contact Postal Code 6143
Admin Contact Country NZ
Admin Contact Phone +64 42820300
Admin Contact Email jordan@taxpayers.org.nz
Credit to the NZ Taxpayer Union however - they were not trying to hide
their involvement this time - right at the bottom of the website
(where few are likely to get to) it says
"Promoted by the New Zealand Taxpayers' Union, 117 Lambton Quay,
Wellington, 6011"
So much for the NZ Taxpayer Union being non-partisan as your nutter
friend claimed recently.
Remember the article from the Tax Payers Union about who its members were
and how they were funded by the members?
Now the graphics on the site suggest that Australia is where people
are moving, and the first (and presumably most important) reason they
are claimed to be moving is to get lower taxes .
Look at this:
https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/global/2022-international-tax-competitiveness-index/#Rankings
We see that New Zealand is more competitive than all other countries
than Estonia and Latvia!
Australia is 11th - lower taxes than many countries, but a long way
from getting as low as New Zealand.
The rest of the lies and misleading statements are what we have come
to expect from the ACT / Nat "Dirty Tricks" team . . .
Tell us of a few examples, it would help your arguement. We means you.
And the Labour/party Government is squeaky clean?
The effective admission of such a lack of any morals or honesty
inherent in this website should give even supporters of the parties of
the right cause for reflection - not once have Luxon or Seymour tried
to dissociate themselves or their parties from such disgraceful
dishonesty. No wonder NZ First is getting such support leaking from
those parties.
Free speech in action Rich. It does get annoying when it does not follow the >narrative.
On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 04:26:42 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Of course none of No Right Turn the NZ Taxpayer Union, The Standard, Kiwiblog, and a number of other websites are non-partisan.
On 2023-09-25, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Rich would prefer to believe the articles from No Right Turn because he "knows"
On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:09:11 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.robbos.co.nz/
Right up your alley, Right, John Bowes?
Registrant contact
Registrant Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Registrant Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Registrant Contact City Wellington
Registrant Contact Postal Code 6143
Registrant Contact Country NZ
Registrant Contact Phone +64 42820300
Registrant Contact Email jor...@taxpayers.org.nz
Admin contact
Admin Contact Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Admin Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Admin Contact City Wellington
Admin Contact Postal Code 6143
Admin Contact Country NZ
Admin Contact Phone +64 42820300
Admin Contact Email jor...@taxpayers.org.nz
Credit to the NZ Taxpayer Union however - they were not trying to hide >>> their involvement this time - right at the bottom of the website
(where few are likely to get to) it says
"Promoted by the New Zealand Taxpayers' Union, 117 Lambton Quay,
Wellington, 6011"
So much for the NZ Taxpayer Union being non-partisan as your nutter
friend claimed recently.
Remember the article from the Tax Payers Union about who its members were >>and how they were funded by the members?
they are honest just like he "knows" the TPU is a political organisation. >Both beliefs are idiotic.
The NZ Taxpayer Union says about itself:
"We’re here to represent the common interests of all taxpayers and to provide them with a voice in the corridors of power.
We work to expose excessive and wasteful government spending. We want
more transparency and accountability in how taxpayers’ money is spent
and our politicians spending money as if they’d worked as hard as the taxpayers who earned it. We believe that new taxes should only be
introduced when there are equal decreases in other taxes."
and
"We are not a political party nor are we aligned to any. We have never
taken money from a political party – but have welcomed a handful of sitting MPs who have joined up as individual members for $25."
Given those lofty statements, how do you explain how their creation of
the url robbos.co.nz and the partisan content fit with their stated
aims?
How do you explain why they have taken over Curia polling that was previously provided to the National Party - other than by accepting
that they are delivering value to the National Party, thereby
recognising that their aims do in fact align with that party. (We do
not know, but it is possible that they also provide polling for the
ACT party). They assert that they do not receive money from political parties - in reality they are taking advantage of being funded other
than as a political party to then provide free services to National
(and possibly ACT)
Of course the NZ Taxpayer Union is partisan.
I gave a major one above - do you admit that New Zealand does not have higher tax than Australia?
Now the graphics on the site suggest that Australia is where people
are moving, and the first (and presumably most important) reason they >>> are claimed to be moving is to get lower taxes .
Look at this:
https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/global/2022-international-tax-competitiveness-index/#Rankings
We see that New Zealand is more competitive than all other countries
than Estonia and Latvia!
Australia is 11th - lower taxes than many countries, but a long way
from getting as low as New Zealand.
The rest of the lies and misleading statements are what we have come
to expect from the ACT / Nat "Dirty Tricks" team . . .
Tell us of a few examples, it would help your arguement. We means you.
I have not claimed that - this thread is about the NZ Taxpayer Union.
And the Labour/party Government is squeaky clean?
The effective admission of such a lack of any morals or honesty
inherent in this website should give even supporters of the parties of >>> the right cause for reflection - not once have Luxon or Seymour tried >>> to dissociate themselves or their parties from such disgraceful
dishonesty. No wonder NZ First is getting such support leaking from
those parties.
Thank you for your acceptance that the NZ Taxpayer Union does not just concern itself with reducing government spending
Free speech in action Rich. It does get annoying when it does not follow the
narrative.
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-09-25, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Rich would prefer to believe the articles from No Right Turn because he "knows"
On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:09:11 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.robbos.co.nz/
Right up your alley, Right, John Bowes?
Registrant contact
Registrant Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Registrant Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Registrant Contact City Wellington
Registrant Contact Postal Code 6143
Registrant Contact Country NZ
Registrant Contact Phone +64 42820300
Registrant Contact Email jordan@taxpayers.org.nz
Admin contact
Admin Contact Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Admin Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Admin Contact City Wellington
Admin Contact Postal Code 6143
Admin Contact Country NZ
Admin Contact Phone +64 42820300
Admin Contact Email jordan@taxpayers.org.nz
Credit to the NZ Taxpayer Union however - they were not trying to hide
their involvement this time - right at the bottom of the website
(where few are likely to get to) it says
"Promoted by the New Zealand Taxpayers' Union, 117 Lambton Quay,
Wellington, 6011"
So much for the NZ Taxpayer Union being non-partisan as your nutter
friend claimed recently.
Remember the article from the Tax Payers Union about who its members were >>and how they were funded by the members?
they are honest just like he "knows" the TPU is a political organisation. >Both beliefs are idiotic.
I gave a major one above - do you admit that New Zealand does not have
Now the graphics on the site suggest that Australia is where people
are moving, and the first (and presumably most important) reason they
are claimed to be moving is to get lower taxes .
Look at this:
https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/global/2022-international-tax-competitiveness-index/#Rankings
We see that New Zealand is more competitive than all other countries
than Estonia and Latvia!
Australia is 11th - lower taxes than many countries, but a long way
from getting as low as New Zealand.
The rest of the lies and misleading statements are what we have come
to expect from the ACT / Nat "Dirty Tricks" team . . .
Tell us of a few examples, it would help your arguement. We means you.
I have not claimed that - this thread is about the NZ Taxpayer Union.
And the Labour/party Government is squeaky clean?
The effective admission of such a lack of any morals or honesty
inherent in this website should give even supporters of the parties of
the right cause for reflection - not once have Luxon or Seymour tried
to dissociate themselves or their parties from such disgraceful
dishonesty. No wonder NZ First is getting such support leaking from
those parties.
Thank you for your acceptance that the NZ Taxpayer Union does not just
Free speech in action Rich. It does get annoying when it does not follow the >>narrative.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 04:26:42 -0000 (UTC), TonyOf course it is not! You can bleat all you like but what you have said about >them is a lie.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-09-25, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Rich would prefer to believe the articles from No Right Turn because he >>>"knows"
On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:09:11 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.robbos.co.nz/
Right up your alley, Right, John Bowes?
Registrant contact
Registrant Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Registrant Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Registrant Contact City Wellington
Registrant Contact Postal Code 6143
Registrant Contact Country NZ
Registrant Contact Phone +64 42820300
Registrant Contact Email jordan@taxpayers.org.nz
Admin contact
Admin Contact Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Admin Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Admin Contact City Wellington
Admin Contact Postal Code 6143
Admin Contact Country NZ
Admin Contact Phone +64 42820300
Admin Contact Email jordan@taxpayers.org.nz
Credit to the NZ Taxpayer Union however - they were not trying to hide >>>>> their involvement this time - right at the bottom of the website
(where few are likely to get to) it says
"Promoted by the New Zealand Taxpayers' Union, 117 Lambton Quay,
Wellington, 6011"
So much for the NZ Taxpayer Union being non-partisan as your nutter
friend claimed recently.
Remember the article from the Tax Payers Union about who its members were >>>>and how they were funded by the members?
they are honest just like he "knows" the TPU is a political organisation. >>>Both beliefs are idiotic.
Of course none of No Right Turn the NZ Taxpayer Union, The Standard, >>Kiwiblog, and a number of other websites are non-partisan.
The NZ Taxpayer Union says about itself:
"We’re here to represent the common interests of all taxpayers and to >>provide them with a voice in the corridors of power.
We work to expose excessive and wasteful government spending. We want
more transparency and accountability in how taxpayers’ money is spent
and our politicians spending money as if they’d worked as hard as the >>taxpayers who earned it. We believe that new taxes should only be >>introduced when there are equal decreases in other taxes."
and
"We are not a political party nor are we aligned to any. We have never >>taken money from a political party – but have welcomed a handful of
sitting MPs who have joined up as individual members for $25."
Given those lofty statements, how do you explain how their creation of
the url robbos.co.nz and the partisan content fit with their stated
aims?
How do you explain why they have taken over Curia polling that was >>previously provided to the National Party - other than by accepting
that they are delivering value to the National Party, thereby
recognising that their aims do in fact align with that party. (We do
not know, but it is possible that they also provide polling for the
ACT party). They assert that they do not receive money from political >>parties - in reality they are taking advantage of being funded other
than as a political party to then provide free services to National
(and possibly ACT)
Of course the NZ Taxpayer Union is partisan.
I gave a major one above - do you admit that New Zealand does not have >>higher tax than Australia?
Now the graphics on the site suggest that Australia is where people
are moving, and the first (and presumably most important) reason they >>>>> are claimed to be moving is to get lower taxes .
Look at this:
https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/global/2022-international-tax-competitiveness-index/#Rankings
We see that New Zealand is more competitive than all other countries >>>>> than Estonia and Latvia!
Australia is 11th - lower taxes than many countries, but a long way
from getting as low as New Zealand.
The rest of the lies and misleading statements are what we have come >>>>> to expect from the ACT / Nat "Dirty Tricks" team . . .
Tell us of a few examples, it would help your arguement. We means you.
I have not claimed that - this thread is about the NZ Taxpayer Union.
And the Labour/party Government is squeaky clean?
The effective admission of such a lack of any morals or honesty
inherent in this website should give even supporters of the parties of >>>>> the right cause for reflection - not once have Luxon or Seymour tried >>>>> to dissociate themselves or their parties from such disgraceful
dishonesty. No wonder NZ First is getting such support leaking from
those parties.
Thank you for your acceptance that the NZ Taxpayer Union does not just >>concern itself with reducing government spending
Free speech in action Rich. It does get annoying when it does not follow the
narrative.
On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 20:30:59 -0000 (UTC), TonyI am not fooled, the TPU is made up of ordinarty caring New Zealanders and they finally became so concerned about the non-democratic intentions and actions of this authoritarian government that they pushed back. They are non-partisan but unlike you are nonets caring New Zealanders.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 04:26:42 -0000 (UTC), TonyOf course it is not! You can bleat all you like but what you have said about >>them is a lie.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-09-25, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Rich would prefer to believe the articles from No Right Turn because he >>>>"knows"
On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:09:11 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.robbos.co.nz/
Right up your alley, Right, John Bowes?
Registrant contact
Registrant Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Registrant Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Registrant Contact City Wellington
Registrant Contact Postal Code 6143
Registrant Contact Country NZ
Registrant Contact Phone +64 42820300
Registrant Contact Email jordan@taxpayers.org.nz
Admin contact
Admin Contact Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Admin Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Admin Contact City Wellington
Admin Contact Postal Code 6143
Admin Contact Country NZ
Admin Contact Phone +64 42820300
Admin Contact Email jordan@taxpayers.org.nz
Credit to the NZ Taxpayer Union however - they were not trying to hide >>>>>> their involvement this time - right at the bottom of the website
(where few are likely to get to) it says
"Promoted by the New Zealand Taxpayers' Union, 117 Lambton Quay,
Wellington, 6011"
So much for the NZ Taxpayer Union being non-partisan as your nutter >>>>>> friend claimed recently.
Remember the article from the Tax Payers Union about who its members were >>>>>and how they were funded by the members?
they are honest just like he "knows" the TPU is a political organisation. >>>>Both beliefs are idiotic.
Of course none of No Right Turn the NZ Taxpayer Union, The Standard, >>>Kiwiblog, and a number of other websites are non-partisan.
The NZ Taxpayer Union says about itself:
"We’re here to represent the common interests of all taxpayers and to >>>provide them with a voice in the corridors of power.
We work to expose excessive and wasteful government spending. We want >>>more transparency and accountability in how taxpayers’ money is spent
and our politicians spending money as if they’d worked as hard as the >>>taxpayers who earned it. We believe that new taxes should only be >>>introduced when there are equal decreases in other taxes."
and
"We are not a political party nor are we aligned to any. We have never >>>taken money from a political party – but have welcomed a handful of >>>sitting MPs who have joined up as individual members for $25."
Given those lofty statements, how do you explain how their creation of >>>the url robbos.co.nz and the partisan content fit with their stated
aims?
How do you explain why they have taken over Curia polling that was >>>previously provided to the National Party - other than by accepting
that they are delivering value to the National Party, thereby
recognising that their aims do in fact align with that party. (We do
not know, but it is possible that they also provide polling for the
ACT party). They assert that they do not receive money from political >>>parties - in reality they are taking advantage of being funded other
than as a political party to then provide free services to National
(and possibly ACT)
Of course the NZ Taxpayer Union is partisan.
You can fool yourself, Tony, but you are wrong.
The NZ Taxpayer UnionYes we all know that, it was clear days ago. No point in repeating links.
created this:
https://www.robbos.co.nz/
Do you really consider that site non-partisan?
I have not claimed that - this thread is about the NZ Taxpayer Union.
Now the graphics on the site suggest that Australia is where people >>>>>> are moving, and the first (and presumably most important) reason they >>>>>> are claimed to be moving is to get lower taxes .
Look at this:
https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/global/2022-international-tax-competitiveness-index/#Rankings
We see that New Zealand is more competitive than all other countries >>>>>> than Estonia and Latvia!
Australia is 11th - lower taxes than many countries, but a long way >>>>>> from getting as low as New Zealand.
The rest of the lies and misleading statements are what we have come >>>>>> to expect from the ACT / Nat "Dirty Tricks" team . . .
Tell us of a few examples, it would help your arguement. We means you. >>>I gave a major one above - do you admit that New Zealand does not have >>>higher tax than Australia?
And the Labour/party Government is squeaky clean?
The effective admission of such a lack of any morals or honesty
inherent in this website should give even supporters of the parties of >>>>>> the right cause for reflection - not once have Luxon or Seymour tried >>>>>> to dissociate themselves or their parties from such disgraceful
dishonesty. No wonder NZ First is getting such support leaking from >>>>>> those parties.
Thank you for your acceptance that the NZ Taxpayer Union does not just >>>concern itself with reducing government spending
Free speech in action Rich. It does get annoying when it does not follow >>>>>the
narrative.
On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 04:26:42 -0000 (UTC), TonyOf course it is not! You can bleat all you like but what you have said about them is a lie.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-09-25, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Rich would prefer to believe the articles from No Right Turn because he >>"knows"
On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:09:11 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.robbos.co.nz/
Right up your alley, Right, John Bowes?
Registrant contact
Registrant Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Registrant Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Registrant Contact City Wellington
Registrant Contact Postal Code 6143
Registrant Contact Country NZ
Registrant Contact Phone +64 42820300
Registrant Contact Email jordan@taxpayers.org.nz
Admin contact
Admin Contact Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Admin Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Admin Contact City Wellington
Admin Contact Postal Code 6143
Admin Contact Country NZ
Admin Contact Phone +64 42820300
Admin Contact Email jordan@taxpayers.org.nz
Credit to the NZ Taxpayer Union however - they were not trying to hide >>>> their involvement this time - right at the bottom of the website
(where few are likely to get to) it says
"Promoted by the New Zealand Taxpayers' Union, 117 Lambton Quay,
Wellington, 6011"
So much for the NZ Taxpayer Union being non-partisan as your nutter
friend claimed recently.
Remember the article from the Tax Payers Union about who its members were >>>and how they were funded by the members?
they are honest just like he "knows" the TPU is a political organisation. >>Both beliefs are idiotic.
Of course none of No Right Turn the NZ Taxpayer Union, The Standard, >Kiwiblog, and a number of other websites are non-partisan.
The NZ Taxpayer Union says about itself:
"We’re here to represent the common interests of all taxpayers and to
provide them with a voice in the corridors of power.
We work to expose excessive and wasteful government spending. We want
more transparency and accountability in how taxpayers’ money is spent
and our politicians spending money as if they’d worked as hard as the >taxpayers who earned it. We believe that new taxes should only be
introduced when there are equal decreases in other taxes."
and
"We are not a political party nor are we aligned to any. We have never
taken money from a political party – but have welcomed a handful of
sitting MPs who have joined up as individual members for $25."
Given those lofty statements, how do you explain how their creation of
the url robbos.co.nz and the partisan content fit with their stated
aims?
How do you explain why they have taken over Curia polling that was
previously provided to the National Party - other than by accepting
that they are delivering value to the National Party, thereby
recognising that their aims do in fact align with that party. (We do
not know, but it is possible that they also provide polling for the
ACT party). They assert that they do not receive money from political >parties - in reality they are taking advantage of being funded other
than as a political party to then provide free services to National
(and possibly ACT)
Of course the NZ Taxpayer Union is partisan.
I gave a major one above - do you admit that New Zealand does not have
Now the graphics on the site suggest that Australia is where people
are moving, and the first (and presumably most important) reason they
are claimed to be moving is to get lower taxes .
Look at this:
https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/global/2022-international-tax-competitiveness-index/#Rankings
We see that New Zealand is more competitive than all other countries
than Estonia and Latvia!
Australia is 11th - lower taxes than many countries, but a long way
from getting as low as New Zealand.
The rest of the lies and misleading statements are what we have come
to expect from the ACT / Nat "Dirty Tricks" team . . .
Tell us of a few examples, it would help your arguement. We means you.
higher tax than Australia?
I have not claimed that - this thread is about the NZ Taxpayer Union.
And the Labour/party Government is squeaky clean?
The effective admission of such a lack of any morals or honesty
inherent in this website should give even supporters of the parties of >>>> the right cause for reflection - not once have Luxon or Seymour tried
to dissociate themselves or their parties from such disgraceful
dishonesty. No wonder NZ First is getting such support leaking from
those parties.
Thank you for your acceptance that the NZ Taxpayer Union does not just >concern itself with reducing government spending
Free speech in action Rich. It does get annoying when it does not follow the >>>narrative.
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Oh and I forgot to mention I'm proud to help finance NZTPU. I wonder if Rich supports the imbeciles he worships?
On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 20:30:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 04:26:42 -0000 (UTC), TonyOf course it is not! You can bleat all you like but what you have said about
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-09-25, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Rich would prefer to believe the articles from No Right Turn because he >>>>"knows"
On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:09:11 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>>>>><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.robbos.co.nz/
Right up your alley, Right, John Bowes?
Registrant contact
Registrant Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Registrant Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Registrant Contact City Wellington
Registrant Contact Postal Code 6143
Registrant Contact Country NZ
Registrant Contact Phone +64 42820300
Registrant Contact Email jor...@taxpayers.org.nz
Admin contact
Admin Contact Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Admin Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Admin Contact City Wellington
Admin Contact Postal Code 6143
Admin Contact Country NZ
Admin Contact Phone +64 42820300
Admin Contact Email jor...@taxpayers.org.nz
Credit to the NZ Taxpayer Union however - they were not trying to hide
their involvement this time - right at the bottom of the website >>>>>> (where few are likely to get to) it says
"Promoted by the New Zealand Taxpayers' Union, 117 Lambton Quay, >>>>>> Wellington, 6011"
So much for the NZ Taxpayer Union being non-partisan as your nutter >>>>>> friend claimed recently.
Remember the article from the Tax Payers Union about who its members were
and how they were funded by the members?
they are honest just like he "knows" the TPU is a political organisation.
Both beliefs are idiotic.
Of course none of No Right Turn the NZ Taxpayer Union, The Standard, >>>Kiwiblog, and a number of other websites are non-partisan.
The NZ Taxpayer Union says about itself:
"We’re here to represent the common interests of all taxpayers and to >>>provide them with a voice in the corridors of power.
We work to expose excessive and wasteful government spending. We want >>>more transparency and accountability in how taxpayers’ money is spent >>>and our politicians spending money as if they’d worked as hard as the >>>taxpayers who earned it. We believe that new taxes should only be >>>introduced when there are equal decreases in other taxes."
and
"We are not a political party nor are we aligned to any. We have never >>>taken money from a political party – but have welcomed a handful of >>>sitting MPs who have joined up as individual members for $25."
Given those lofty statements, how do you explain how their creation of >>>the url robbos.co.nz and the partisan content fit with their stated >>>aims?
How do you explain why they have taken over Curia polling that was >>>previously provided to the National Party - other than by accepting >>>that they are delivering value to the National Party, thereby >>>recognising that their aims do in fact align with that party. (We do >>>not know, but it is possible that they also provide polling for the >>>ACT party). They assert that they do not receive money from political >>>parties - in reality they are taking advantage of being funded other >>>than as a political party to then provide free services to National >>>(and possibly ACT)
Of course the NZ Taxpayer Union is partisan.
them is a lie.
You can fool yourself, Tony, but you are wrong.I am not fooled, the TPU is made up of ordinarty caring New Zealanders and they
finally became so concerned about the non-democratic intentions and actions of
this authoritarian government that they pushed back. They are non-partisan but
unlike you are nonets caring New Zealanders.
The NZ Taxpayer UnionYes we all know that, it was clear days ago. No point in repeating links.
created this:
https://www.robbos.co.nz/
It proves nothing.
Do you really consider that site non-partisan?
I have not claimed that - this thread is about the NZ Taxpayer Union. >>>>>
Now the graphics on the site suggest that Australia is where people >>>>>> are moving, and the first (and presumably most important) reason they >>>>>> are claimed to be moving is to get lower taxes .
Look at this:
https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/global/2022-international-tax-competitiveness-index/#Rankings
We see that New Zealand is more competitive than all other countries >>>>>> than Estonia and Latvia!
Australia is 11th - lower taxes than many countries, but a long way >>>>>> from getting as low as New Zealand.
The rest of the lies and misleading statements are what we have come >>>>>> to expect from the ACT / Nat "Dirty Tricks" team . . .
Tell us of a few examples, it would help your arguement. We means you. >>>I gave a major one above - do you admit that New Zealand does not have >>>higher tax than Australia?
And the Labour/party Government is squeaky clean?
The effective admission of such a lack of any morals or honesty >>>>>> inherent in this website should give even supporters of the parties of
the right cause for reflection - not once have Luxon or Seymour tried >>>>>> to dissociate themselves or their parties from such disgraceful >>>>>> dishonesty. No wonder NZ First is getting such support leaking from >>>>>> those parties.
Thank you for your acceptance that the NZ Taxpayer Union does not just >>>concern itself with reducing government spendingFree speech in action Rich. It does get annoying when it does not follow
the
narrative.
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 20:30:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 04:26:42 -0000 (UTC), TonyOf course it is not! You can bleat all you like but what you have said about
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-09-25, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Rich would prefer to believe the articles from No Right Turn because he >>>>"knows"
On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:09:11 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>>>>><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.robbos.co.nz/
Right up your alley, Right, John Bowes?
Registrant contact
Registrant Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Registrant Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Registrant Contact City Wellington
Registrant Contact Postal Code 6143
Registrant Contact Country NZ
Registrant Contact Phone +64 42820300
Registrant Contact Email jor...@taxpayers.org.nz
Admin contact
Admin Contact Name New Zealand Taxpayers' Union
Admin Contact Address PO Bo 10518
Admin Contact City Wellington
Admin Contact Postal Code 6143
Admin Contact Country NZ
Admin Contact Phone +64 42820300
Admin Contact Email jor...@taxpayers.org.nz
Credit to the NZ Taxpayer Union however - they were not trying to hide
their involvement this time - right at the bottom of the website >>>>>> (where few are likely to get to) it says
"Promoted by the New Zealand Taxpayers' Union, 117 Lambton Quay, >>>>>> Wellington, 6011"
So much for the NZ Taxpayer Union being non-partisan as your nutter >>>>>> friend claimed recently.
Remember the article from the Tax Payers Union about who its members were
and how they were funded by the members?
they are honest just like he "knows" the TPU is a political organisation.
Both beliefs are idiotic.
Of course none of No Right Turn the NZ Taxpayer Union, The Standard, >>>Kiwiblog, and a number of other websites are non-partisan.
The NZ Taxpayer Union says about itself:
"We’re here to represent the common interests of all taxpayers and to >>>provide them with a voice in the corridors of power.
We work to expose excessive and wasteful government spending. We want >>>more transparency and accountability in how taxpayers’ money is spent >>>and our politicians spending money as if they’d worked as hard as the >>>taxpayers who earned it. We believe that new taxes should only be >>>introduced when there are equal decreases in other taxes."
and
"We are not a political party nor are we aligned to any. We have never >>>taken money from a political party – but have welcomed a handful of >>>sitting MPs who have joined up as individual members for $25."
Given those lofty statements, how do you explain how their creation of >>>the url robbos.co.nz and the partisan content fit with their stated >>>aims?
How do you explain why they have taken over Curia polling that was >>>previously provided to the National Party - other than by accepting >>>that they are delivering value to the National Party, thereby >>>recognising that their aims do in fact align with that party. (We do >>>not know, but it is possible that they also provide polling for the >>>ACT party). They assert that they do not receive money from political >>>parties - in reality they are taking advantage of being funded other >>>than as a political party to then provide free services to National >>>(and possibly ACT)
Of course the NZ Taxpayer Union is partisan.
them is a lie.
You can fool yourself, Tony, but you are wrong.I am not fooled, the TPU is made up of ordinarty caring New Zealanders and they
finally became so concerned about the non-democratic intentions and actions of
this authoritarian government that they pushed back. They are non-partisan but
unlike you are nonets caring New Zealanders.
The NZ Taxpayer UnionYes we all know that, it was clear days ago. No point in repeating links.
created this:
https://www.robbos.co.nz/
It proves nothing.
Do you really consider that site non-partisan?
I have not claimed that - this thread is about the NZ Taxpayer Union. >>>>>
Now the graphics on the site suggest that Australia is where people >>>>>> are moving, and the first (and presumably most important) reason they >>>>>> are claimed to be moving is to get lower taxes .
Look at this:
https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/global/2022-international-tax-competitiveness-index/#Rankings
We see that New Zealand is more competitive than all other countries >>>>>> than Estonia and Latvia!
Australia is 11th - lower taxes than many countries, but a long way >>>>>> from getting as low as New Zealand.
The rest of the lies and misleading statements are what we have come >>>>>> to expect from the ACT / Nat "Dirty Tricks" team . . .
Tell us of a few examples, it would help your arguement. We means you. >>>I gave a major one above - do you admit that New Zealand does not have >>>higher tax than Australia?
And the Labour/party Government is squeaky clean?
The effective admission of such a lack of any morals or honesty >>>>>> inherent in this website should give even supporters of the parties of
the right cause for reflection - not once have Luxon or Seymour tried >>>>>> to dissociate themselves or their parties from such disgraceful >>>>>> dishonesty. No wonder NZ First is getting such support leaking from >>>>>> those parties.
Thank you for your acceptance that the NZ Taxpayer Union does not just >>>concern itself with reducing government spendingFree speech in action Rich. It does get annoying when it does not follow
the
narrative.
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