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It amazes me how easy it is for Hipkins to be so mendacious.
On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 23:44:28 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
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It amazes me how easy it is for Hipkins to be so mendacious.
Hipkins is technically right in that no law was ever passed making >vaccination mandatory, but those who were required to be vaccinated to
keep their Government-funded jobs can quite justifiably say that
getting vaccinated to keep your job is equivalent to a mandate.
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 23:44:28 -0000 (UTC), TonyYes of course it is, using the technicality is almost worse than a downright >lie, it is at least as bad.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
It amazes me how easy it is for Hipkins to be so mendacious.https://i0.wp.com/waikanaewatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/image2-55.png?ssl=1
Hipkins is technically right in that no law was ever passed making >>vaccination mandatory, but those who were required to be vaccinated to
keep their Government-funded jobs can quite justifiably say that
getting vaccinated to keep your job is equivalent to a mandate.
On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 23:44:28 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
https://i0.wp.com/waikanaewatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/image2-55.png?ssl=1
It amazes me how easy it is for Hipkins to be so mendacious.
Hipkins is technically right in that no law was ever passed making >vaccination mandatory, but those who were required to be vaccinated to
keep their Government-funded jobs can quite justifiably say that
getting vaccinated to keep your job is equivalent to a mandate.
https://i0.wp.com/waikanaewatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/image2-55.png?ssl=1
It amazes me how easy it is for Hipkins to be so mendacious.
On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 23:44:28 -0000 (UTC), TonySorry Rich. Waikanae Watch isn't anything like you! We leave it up to you and your toxic Labour party to use disinformation to make you look good! We are never surprised at your gullibility ti believe anything Labour claims!
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote: >https://i0.wp.com/waikanaewatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/image2-55.png?ssl=1
It amazes me how easy it is for Hipkins to be so mendacious.I agree Tony - Waikanae Watch has in the past frequently included deliberately misleading material, and this is another occasion. They
may if challenged claim that the character is fictional, therefore the
lie should not be taken seriously, but clearly it is intended that the audience for the website would get fooled as you appear to have been.
It amazes me that you should be so gullible . . .
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 13:36:24 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 23:44:28 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
It amazes me how easy it is for Hipkins to be so mendacious.https://i0.wp.com/waikanaewatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/image2-55.png?ssl=1
Hipkins is technically right in that no law was ever passed making >>vaccination mandatory, but those who were required to be vaccinated to
keep their Government-funded jobs can quite justifiably say that
getting vaccinated to keep your job is equivalent to a mandate.
Well done Crash. I visited a retirement village earlier today to talk
to a resident who had just returned from hospital - we were required
to wear a mask, which we readily acceded to. The wearing of masks in
the presence of vulnerable people has long been a requirement for
medical staff and anyone assisting at for example an operation. The
efficacy of mask wearing varies considerably, but for at least 50
years it has been accepted as a reasonable precaution for operations.
The requirement is enforced through a mixture of employer requirements
and professional practice requirements. It is accepted as being
reasonable by all but the most stupid. It became good practice to
ear masks on busses, as having children and adults in close proximity
in a bus was seen as a potential source of infection to be carried to
others - it is from my observations still one of the most common
places to see masks.
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 04:07:14 -0000 (UTC), TonyWelcome back, the newsgroup is now back to where you shoved it over the years, you are always the first to become abusive demonstrated here nicely.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 23:44:28 -0000 (UTC), TonyYes of course it is, using the technicality is almost worse than a downright >>lie, it is at least as bad.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
It amazes me how easy it is for Hipkins to be so mendacious.https://i0.wp.com/waikanaewatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/image2-55.png?ssl=1
Hipkins is technically right in that no law was ever passed making >>>vaccination mandatory, but those who were required to be vaccinated to >>>keep their Government-funded jobs can quite justifiably say that
getting vaccinated to keep your job is equivalent to a mandate.
Well that went right over your head, didn't it Tony. There is no lie
except that on Waikanae Watch - you are confusing the deceptive
"Right" with the 'right' answer given by Crash.
On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 23:44:28 -0000 (UTC), TonySo you agree finally that Hipkins is mendacious. Well done.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
https://i0.wp.com/waikanaewatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/image2-55.png?ssl=1
It amazes me how easy it is for Hipkins to be so mendacious.
I agree Tony - Waikanae Watch has in the past frequently included >deliberately misleading material, and this is another occasion. They
may if challenged claim that the character is fictional, therefore the
lie should not be taken seriously, but clearly it is intended that the >audience for the website would get fooled as you appear to have been.
It amazes me that you should be so gullible . . .
On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 23:44:28 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
https://i0.wp.com/waikanaewatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/image2-55.png?ssl=1Hipkins is technically right in that no law was ever passed making vaccination mandatory, but those who were required to be vaccinated to
It amazes me how easy it is for Hipkins to be so mendacious.
keep their Government-funded jobs can quite justifiably say that
getting vaccinated to keep your job is equivalent to a mandate.
On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 1:36:22?PM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 23:44:28 -0000 (UTC), Tony'Terms and Conditions of Employment' covers it. No worries, then.
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
https://i0.wp.com/waikanaewatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/image2-55.png?ssl=1Hipkins is technically right in that no law was ever passed making
It amazes me how easy it is for Hipkins to be so mendacious.
vaccination mandatory, but those who were required to be vaccinated to
keep their Government-funded jobs can quite justifiably say that
getting vaccinated to keep your job is equivalent to a mandate.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:No I do not; I was pointing out that the article is deliberately
On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 23:44:28 -0000 (UTC), TonySo you agree finally that Hipkins is mendacious. Well done.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
It amazes me how easy it is for Hipkins to be so mendacious.https://i0.wp.com/waikanaewatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/image2-55.png?ssl=1
I agree Tony - Waikanae Watch has in the past frequently included >>deliberately misleading material, and this is another occasion. They
may if challenged claim that the character is fictional, therefore the
lie should not be taken seriously, but clearly it is intended that the >>audience for the website would get fooled as you appear to have been.
It amazes me that you should be so gullible . . .
Interesting that we have had more than a week of your absence and not a single >post from anyone that was unkind, slightly rude or abusive,
Then you return and you are into the sarcasm and other abusiveness straight >away. Your transparent lack of integrity and common courtesy is clear.
On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 1:36:22?PM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 23:44:28 -0000 (UTC), Tony'Terms and Conditions of Employment' covers it. No worries, then.
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
https://i0.wp.com/waikanaewatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/image2-55.png?ssl=1Hipkins is technically right in that no law was ever passed making
It amazes me how easy it is for Hipkins to be so mendacious.
vaccination mandatory, but those who were required to be vaccinated to
keep their Government-funded jobs can quite justifiably say that
getting vaccinated to keep your job is equivalent to a mandate.
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 20:51:39 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:No I do not; I was pointing out that the article is deliberately
On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 23:44:28 -0000 (UTC), TonySo you agree finally that Hipkins is mendacious. Well done.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
It amazes me how easy it is for Hipkins to be so mendacious.https://i0.wp.com/waikanaewatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/image2-55.png?ssl=1
I agree Tony - Waikanae Watch has in the past frequently included >>>deliberately misleading material, and this is another occasion. They
may if challenged claim that the character is fictional, therefore the >>>lie should not be taken seriously, but clearly it is intended that the >>>audience for the website would get fooled as you appear to have been.
It amazes me that you should be so gullible . . .
misleading - including statements about politicians.
Not at all. I never lash out. It is you that is so immature that you cannot avoid abusing those that have different opinions.Interesting that we have had more than a week of your absence and not a >>single
post from anyone that was unkind, slightly rude or abusive,
Then you return and you are into the sarcasm and other abusiveness straight >>away. Your transparent lack of integrity and common courtesy is clear.
The post I was replying to deliberately gave a link that is itself
lacking in integrity; but I find it not surprising at all that you
have no capacity for critical thinking; but just lash out at other
posters. You confirm your gullibility . . .
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 15:00:50 -0700 (PDT), James Christophers ><jmschristophers@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 1:36:22?PM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 23:44:28 -0000 (UTC), Tony'Terms and Conditions of Employment' covers it. No worries, then.
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Hipkins is technically right in that no law was ever passed makinghttps://i0.wp.com/waikanaewatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/image2-55.png?ssl=1It amazes me how easy it is for Hipkins to be so mendacious.
vaccination mandatory, but those who were required to be vaccinated to
keep their Government-funded jobs can quite justifiably say that
getting vaccinated to keep your job is equivalent to a mandate.
Employment Ts&Cs content is permanent and can only be changed by
mutual consent. The vaccination mandates were temporary (new removed)
and imposed without any attempt to gain consent.
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 15:00:50 -0700 (PDT), James Christophers ><jmschristophers@gmail.com> wrote:Mask mandates had nothing at all to do with terms and conditions of employment other than in the medical prfofessions.
On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 1:36:22?PM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 23:44:28 -0000 (UTC), Tony'Terms and Conditions of Employment' covers it. No worries, then.
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Hipkins is technically right in that no law was ever passed makinghttps://i0.wp.com/waikanaewatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/image2-55.png?ssl=1It amazes me how easy it is for Hipkins to be so mendacious.
vaccination mandatory, but those who were required to be vaccinated to
keep their Government-funded jobs can quite justifiably say that
getting vaccinated to keep your job is equivalent to a mandate.
And such terms were enthusiastically adopted by most if not all GP
surgeries, and many other businesses. Apparently there was a cafe on
the West Coast that advertised they did not require masks to be worn,
and then had to close when too many customers caught Covid . . .
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 20:51:39 -0000 (UTC), TonyNo it is not!
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:No I do not; I was pointing out that the article is deliberately
On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 23:44:28 -0000 (UTC), TonySo you agree finally that Hipkins is mendacious. Well done.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
It amazes me how easy it is for Hipkins to be so mendacious.https://i0.wp.com/waikanaewatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/image2-55.png?ssl=1
I agree Tony - Waikanae Watch has in the past frequently included >>>deliberately misleading material, and this is another occasion. They
may if challenged claim that the character is fictional, therefore the >>>lie should not be taken seriously, but clearly it is intended that the >>>audience for the website would get fooled as you appear to have been.
It amazes me that you should be so gullible . . .
misleading - including statements about politicians.
Interesting that we have had more than a week of your absence and not a >>single
post from anyone that was unkind, slightly rude or abusive,
Then you return and you are into the sarcasm and other abusiveness straight >>away. Your transparent lack of integrity and common courtesy is clear.
The post I was replying to deliberately gave a link that is itself
lacking in integrity; but I find it not surprising at all that you
have no capacity for critical thinking; but just lash out at other
posters. You confirm your gullibility . . .
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 15:00:50 -0700 (PDT), James Christophers <jmschri...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 1:36:22?PM UTC+12, Crash wrote:Employment Ts&Cs content is permanent and can only be changed by
On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 23:44:28 -0000 (UTC), Tony'Terms and Conditions of Employment' covers it. No worries, then.
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
https://i0.wp.com/waikanaewatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/image2-55.png?ssl=1Hipkins is technically right in that no law was ever passed making
It amazes me how easy it is for Hipkins to be so mendacious.
vaccination mandatory, but those who were required to be vaccinated to
keep their Government-funded jobs can quite justifiably say that
getting vaccinated to keep your job is equivalent to a mandate.
mutual consent. The vaccination mandates were temporary (new removed)
and imposed without any attempt to gain consent.
Yes, mistakes will be made - how could it be otherwise? Moreover, it is per= >fectly realistic to expect it to be no other way.
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