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  • Re: Bassett on media bias.

    From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Tony on Wed Sep 6 18:37:30 2023
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 1:31:51 PM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/michael-bassett-bogus-election-media-coverage

    An interesting read...

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  • From JohnO@21:1/5 to John Bowes on Wed Sep 6 18:47:19 2023
    On Thursday, 7 September 2023 at 13:37:33 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 1:31:51 PM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/michael-bassett-bogus-election-media-coverage

    An interesting read...

    But only summarising what we already know.

    The MSM obsessively nitpicks National's spending promises that are relatively tiny while largely ignoring Labour's insane multi billion dollar vanity projects such as multiple harbour crossings and light rail tunnels ans well as their multi-hundred
    billion dollar debt splurge over their term.

    Completely biased, bought and paid for.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 7 01:31:49 2023
    XPost: nz.politics

    https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/michael-bassett-bogus-election-media-coverage

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  • From James Christophers@21:1/5 to JohnO on Thu Sep 7 19:04:38 2023
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 1:47:21 PM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 7 September 2023 at 13:37:33 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 1:31:51 PM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/michael-bassett-bogus-election-media-coverage

    An interesting read...
    But only summarising what we already know.

    The MSM obsessively nitpicks National's spending promises that are relatively tiny while largely ignoring Labour's insane multi billion dollar vanity projects such as multiple harbour crossings and light rail tunnels ans well as their multi-hundred
    billion dollar debt splurge over their term.

    Completely biased, bought and paid for.


    Do you believe such alleged bias is likely to alter in any way should National take the Treasury bench in a month or so?

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  • From JohnO@21:1/5 to James Christophers on Thu Sep 7 19:38:45 2023
    On Friday, 8 September 2023 at 14:04:40 UTC+12, James Christophers wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 1:47:21 PM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 7 September 2023 at 13:37:33 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 1:31:51 PM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/michael-bassett-bogus-election-media-coverage

    An interesting read...
    But only summarising what we already know.

    The MSM obsessively nitpicks National's spending promises that are relatively tiny while largely ignoring Labour's insane multi billion dollar vanity projects such as multiple harbour crossings and light rail tunnels ans well as their multi-hundred
    billion dollar debt splurge over their term.

    Completely biased, bought and paid for.
    Do you believe such alleged bias is likely to alter in any way should National take the Treasury bench in a month or so?

    I expect the anti-right bias to remain, but at least dwindle over time as it will no longer be government subsidised. Simply look back to 2016 and 2017 when the media reported endless attacks on the then government about homelessness and people sleeping
    in cars. Those stories abruptly ended with the change of government and have not been heard since, despite the number of homeless sleeping in cars increasing since then. Another example: Endless reporting of issues in the prison system, one of the larger
    stories was prison fight clubs. That one went on and on. Fast forward to the current government, prisons are worse. There are now fight clubs in juvenile facilities, now egged on by Corrections staff. That story lasted about one day before being ignored
    forever after. How about housing affordability? Never ending story prior to 2017 election. Housing affordability is now worse than ever with skyrocketing mortgage rates. Do we get beaten around the ears with daily MSM stories? Nope.

    The MSM media has two objectives: Bash the right, and sell copies ("if it it bleeds it leads"). Taxpayers should not be subsidising this dreck.

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  • From James Christophers@21:1/5 to JohnO on Thu Sep 7 21:06:24 2023
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 2:38:47 PM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Friday, 8 September 2023 at 14:04:40 UTC+12, James Christophers wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 1:47:21 PM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 7 September 2023 at 13:37:33 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 1:31:51 PM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/michael-bassett-bogus-election-media-coverage

    An interesting read...
    But only summarising what we already know.

    The MSM obsessively nitpicks National's spending promises that are relatively tiny while largely ignoring Labour's insane multi billion dollar vanity projects such as multiple harbour crossings and light rail tunnels ans well as their multi-hundred
    billion dollar debt splurge over their term.

    Completely biased, bought and paid for.
    Do you believe such alleged bias is likely to alter in any way should National take the Treasury bench in a month or so?
    I expect the anti-right bias to remain, but at least dwindle over time as it will no longer be government subsidised. Simply look back to 2016 and 2017 when the media reported endless attacks on the then government about homelessness and people
    sleeping in cars. Those stories abruptly ended with the change of government and have not been heard since, despite the number of homeless sleeping in cars increasing since then. Another example: Endless reporting of issues in the prison system, one of
    the larger stories was prison fight clubs. That one went on and on. Fast forward to the current government, prisons are worse. There are now fight clubs in juvenile facilities, now egged on by Corrections staff. That story lasted about one day before
    being ignored forever after. How about housing affordability? Never ending story prior to 2017 election. Housing affordability is now worse than ever with skyrocketing mortgage rates. Do we get beaten around the ears with daily MSM stories? Nope.

    The MSM media has two objectives: Bash the right, and sell copies ("if it it bleeds it leads").

    Taxpayers should not be subsidising this dreck...

    ...successive governments of whatever stripe will go as far as the electorate, will permit. In New Zealand, such permission amounts to free rein. IOW, as I have said before, you are simply getting the government you deserve. Thus an institutional
    apathy and mediocrity go hand in hand, so ask yourself: whose fault is that?

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  • From Willy Nilly@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 8 09:13:23 2023
    On Thu, 7 Sep 2023, James Christophers <jmschristophers@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    as I have said before, you are simply getting the government you deserve. Thus an institutional apathy and mediocrity go hand in hand, so ask
    yourself: whose fault is that?

    A valid point, the moronic electorate of 2010 voted Jacinda in by
    heaps. Mind you, the cheerleading media led every step of the way.
    Winston warned it would be unleashing her. But he rode the tiger,
    didn't he? And why did he? Because the Nats had so vehemently hated
    on him that they poisoned any chance of cutting a deal with him.

    So in my thinking, it was the absurd anti-Winston mindset of the Nats
    that brought us to today's travesty. I had friends in high Nat places
    in the 2010's, I warned them about this -- fat lot of good it did.

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  • From JohnO@21:1/5 to James Christophers on Fri Sep 8 03:13:13 2023
    On Friday, 8 September 2023 at 16:06:27 UTC+12, James Christophers wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 2:38:47 PM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Friday, 8 September 2023 at 14:04:40 UTC+12, James Christophers wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 1:47:21 PM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 7 September 2023 at 13:37:33 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 1:31:51 PM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/michael-bassett-bogus-election-media-coverage

    An interesting read...
    But only summarising what we already know.

    The MSM obsessively nitpicks National's spending promises that are relatively tiny while largely ignoring Labour's insane multi billion dollar vanity projects such as multiple harbour crossings and light rail tunnels ans well as their multi-
    hundred billion dollar debt splurge over their term.

    Completely biased, bought and paid for.
    Do you believe such alleged bias is likely to alter in any way should National take the Treasury bench in a month or so?
    I expect the anti-right bias to remain, but at least dwindle over time as it will no longer be government subsidised. Simply look back to 2016 and 2017 when the media reported endless attacks on the then government about homelessness and people
    sleeping in cars. Those stories abruptly ended with the change of government and have not been heard since, despite the number of homeless sleeping in cars increasing since then. Another example: Endless reporting of issues in the prison system, one of
    the larger stories was prison fight clubs. That one went on and on. Fast forward to the current government, prisons are worse. There are now fight clubs in juvenile facilities, now egged on by Corrections staff. That story lasted about one day before
    being ignored forever after. How about housing affordability? Never ending story prior to 2017 election. Housing affordability is now worse than ever with skyrocketing mortgage rates. Do we get beaten around the ears with daily MSM stories? Nope.

    The MSM media has two objectives: Bash the right, and sell copies ("if it it bleeds it leads").
    Taxpayers should not be subsidising this dreck...

    ...successive governments of whatever stripe will go as far as the electorate, will permit. In New Zealand, such permission amounts to free rein. IOW, as I have said before, you are simply getting the government you deserve. Thus an institutional
    apathy and mediocrity go hand in hand, so ask yourself: whose fault is that?

    What inane comments. We all, including you, get the government that was elected, whether we deserve it or not. The fault is with the government itself, not the more intelligent people who voted against them. However based on polling at least half of the
    dimwits who voted the current lot in are now feeling foolish.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Sat Sep 16 19:54:05 2023
    On Thu, 7 Sep 2023 01:31:49 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/michael-bassett-bogus-election-media-coverage

    And despite that personal opinion, National are now embarrassed enough
    that they are refusing to give enough detail to determines just how
    they made such a mistake in a major piece of budget work. It is clear
    that Willis knows how to bluster; many New Zealanders would prefer a
    Finance Minister who actually knows something about the job, or who
    can actually think through and answer obvious question relating to the
    effect of their proposals.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 16 01:27:30 2023
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 8:01:42 PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Thu, 7 Sep 2023 01:31:49 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/michael-bassett-bogus-election-media-coverage

    And despite that personal opinion, National are now embarrassed enough
    that they are refusing to give enough detail to determines just how
    they made such a mistake in a major piece of budget work. It is clear
    that Willis knows how to bluster; many New Zealanders would prefer a
    Finance Minister who actually knows something about the job, or who
    can actually think through and answer obvious question relating to the effect of their proposals.
    When it comes to bluster Rich. You and Labour hold the record!
    Can you tell us why Labour has based their campaign on attack politics and not on their record? I can. Labours record got broken in 2017 about the time Ardern opened her big mouth to thank Winston!

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