There is a television series entitled The Man in the High Castle. Not especially enlightening or indeed that interesting but I watched it as part of
a task I complete for my community from time to time.
It's an OK escapist alternative history piece of fiction.
But there is one part where the black folk of America fight back against those
that seek to control them. These folk have a slogan "No Masters But Ourselves"
- highly appropriate for people, many of whom, are descendants of slaves.
It got me thinking, that is not a bad slogan for the people of New Zealand right now. We are openly being told that the government, yes this government,
knows better than us and that we should do as we are told. That has been the case for at least three long, inglorious years.
So, we are our own masters, throw these authoritarian, barely competent liars,
into oblivion at the election. Time that we controlled our lives again with a
government that has, at least a possiibility (unlike this one) of being democratic.
Time to take control and use our votes.
Yes, parliament is our servant and every single politician is our employeee. Time to remind them of that.There is a television series entitled The Man in the High Castle. Not
especially enlightening or indeed that interesting but I watched it as part >>of
a task I complete for my community from time to time.
It's an OK escapist alternative history piece of fiction.
But there is one part where the black folk of America fight back against >>those
that seek to control them. These folk have a slogan "No Masters But >>Ourselves"
- highly appropriate for people, many of whom, are descendants of slaves.
It got me thinking, that is not a bad slogan for the people of New Zealand >> right now. We are openly being told that the government, yes this >>government,
knows better than us and that we should do as we are told. That has been the >> case for at least three long, inglorious years.
So, we are our own masters, throw these authoritarian, barely competent >>liars,
into oblivion at the election. Time that we controlled our lives again with >>a
government that has, at least a possiibility (unlike this one) of being
democratic.
Time to take control and use our votes.
Definitely! Regrettably even the better solution to our current situation >needs a reminder that WE the people are supposed to be the masters/mistresses. >But that can only be achieved with marches on parliament when they step out of >line...
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 03:01:00 -0000 (UTC), TonySo you don't believe in people being freed from tyranny, no surprise there.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
There is a television series entitled The Man in the High Castle. Not >>especially enlightening or indeed that interesting but I watched it as part >>of
a task I complete for my community from time to time.
It's an OK escapist alternative history piece of fiction.
But there is one part where the black folk of America fight back against >>those
that seek to control them. These folk have a slogan "No Masters But >>Ourselves"
- highly appropriate for people, many of whom, are descendants of slaves. >>It got me thinking, that is not a bad slogan for the people of New Zealand >>right now. We are openly being told that the government, yes this government, >>knows better than us and that we should do as we are told. That has been the >>case for at least three long, inglorious years.
What a load of crap - National has continually criticised Labour for
not being more authoritarian. Give a few examples of your fantasies,
Tony . . . .
The only rabbit hole is yours. I know nothing of either of those organisations. You are a very nasty little man.So, we are our own masters, throw these authoritarian, barely competent >>liars,
into oblivion at the election. Time that we controlled our lives again with a >>government that has, at least a possiibility (unlike this one) of being >>democratic.
Time to take control and use our votes.
In the rabbit hole of your mind, you are doubtless looking for a mix
of Freedoms NZ and Vision NZ. Good luck to you . . .
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 03:01:00 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
There is a television series entitled The Man in the High Castle. Not >especially enlightening or indeed that interesting but I watched it as part ofWhat a load of crap - National has continually criticised Labour for
a task I complete for my community from time to time.
It's an OK escapist alternative history piece of fiction.
But there is one part where the black folk of America fight back against those
that seek to control them. These folk have a slogan "No Masters But Ourselves"
- highly appropriate for people, many of whom, are descendants of slaves. >It got me thinking, that is not a bad slogan for the people of New Zealand >right now. We are openly being told that the government, yes this government,
knows better than us and that we should do as we are told. That has been the
case for at least three long, inglorious years.
not being more authoritarian. Give a few examples of your fantasies,
Tony . . . .
Considering you constantly ignore the fact your prefered government not only is totalitarian and demanding. but it also doesn't abide by NZ bill of rights when supressing our freedoms!So, we are our own masters, throw these authoritarian, barely competent liars,In the rabbit hole of your mind, you are doubtless looking for a mix
into oblivion at the election. Time that we controlled our lives again with a
government that has, at least a possiibility (unlike this one) of being >democratic.
Time to take control and use our votes.
of Freedoms NZ and Vision NZ. Good luck to you . . .
There is a television series entitled The Man in the High Castle. Not >especially enlightening or indeed that interesting but I watched it as part of >a task I complete for my community from time to time.
It's an OK escapist alternative history piece of fiction.
But there is one part where the black folk of America fight back against those >that seek to control them. These folk have a slogan "No Masters But Ourselves" >- highly appropriate for people, many of whom, are descendants of slaves.
It got me thinking, that is not a bad slogan for the people of New Zealand >right now. We are openly being told that the government, yes this government, >knows better than us and that we should do as we are told. That has been the >case for at least three long, inglorious years.
So, we are our own masters, throw these authoritarian, barely competent liars, >into oblivion at the election. Time that we controlled our lives again with a >government that has, at least a possiibility (unlike this one) of being >democratic.
Time to take control and use our votes.
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 3:01:03 PM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
There is a television series entitled The Man in the High Castle. Not
especially enlightening or indeed that interesting but I watched it as part of
a task I complete for my community from time to time.
It's an OK escapist alternative history piece of fiction.
But there is one part where the black folk of America fight back against those
that seek to control them. These folk have a slogan "No Masters But Ourselves"
- highly appropriate for people, many of whom, are descendants of slaves.
It got me thinking, that is not a bad slogan for the people of New Zealand >> right now. We are openly being told that the government, yes this government,
knows better than us and that we should do as we are told. That has been the >> case for at least three long, inglorious years.
So, we are our own masters, throw these authoritarian, barely competent liars,
into oblivion at the election. Time that we controlled our lives again with a
government that has, at least a possiibility (unlike this one) of being
democratic.
Time to take control and use our votes.
Definitely! Regrettably even the better solution to our current situation needs a reminder that WE the people are supposed to be the masters/mistresses.
But that can only be achieved with marches on parliament when they step out of line...
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:is an increase in inequality - the Ardern / Hipkins governments have
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 03:01:00 -0000 (UTC), TonySo you don't believe in people being freed from tyranny, no surprise there. What tyranny? The greatest tyranny we have had in the last 30 years
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
There is a television series entitled The Man in the High Castle. Not >>>especially enlightening or indeed that interesting but I watched it as part >>>of
a task I complete for my community from time to time.
It's an OK escapist alternative history piece of fiction.
But there is one part where the black folk of America fight back against >>>those
that seek to control them. These folk have a slogan "No Masters But >>>Ourselves"
- highly appropriate for people, many of whom, are descendants of slaves. >>>It got me thinking, that is not a bad slogan for the people of New Zealand >>>right now. We are openly being told that the government, yes this government,
knows better than us and that we should do as we are told. That has been the >>>case for at least three long, inglorious years.
What a load of crap - National has continually criticised Labour for
not being more authoritarian. Give a few examples of your fantasies,
Tony . . . .
We need a government that actually understands their responsibilities to their >masters.You have not identified a problem . . .
Perhaps you could explain exactly what is wrong with that notion. But I doubt >you will even try.
This is nothing to do with National and the current, soon to be gone, >government is the most authoritarian I have ever suffered under. Perhaps you >can show otherwise, but I doubt it.You have not demonstrated anything except your own fantasies . . .
Oh, and please stop you abuse, you tyranically little man.What abuse? Your nastiness does nothing for civilised discussion,
The only rabbit hole is yours. I know nothing of either of those organisations.
So, we are our own masters, throw these authoritarian, barely competent >>>liars,
into oblivion at the election. Time that we controlled our lives again with a
government that has, at least a possiibility (unlike this one) of being >>>democratic.
Time to take control and use our votes.
In the rabbit hole of your mind, you are doubtless looking for a mix
of Freedoms NZ and Vision NZ. Good luck to you . . .
You are a very nasty little man.
And stop your childish abuse please. But I know that you cannot.
On 2023-09-01, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 3:01:03 PM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
There is a television series entitled The Man in the High Castle. Not
especially enlightening or indeed that interesting but I watched it as part of
a task I complete for my community from time to time.
It's an OK escapist alternative history piece of fiction.
But there is one part where the black folk of America fight back against those
that seek to control them. These folk have a slogan "No Masters But Ourselves"
- highly appropriate for people, many of whom, are descendants of slaves. >> It got me thinking, that is not a bad slogan for the people of New Zealand
right now. We are openly being told that the government, yes this government,
knows better than us and that we should do as we are told. That has been the
case for at least three long, inglorious years.
So, we are our own masters, throw these authoritarian, barely competent liars,
into oblivion at the election. Time that we controlled our lives again with a
government that has, at least a possiibility (unlike this one) of being >> democratic.
Time to take control and use our votes.
Definitely! Regrettably even the better solution to our current situation needs a reminder that WE the people are supposed to be the masters/mistresses.It seems that in many democratic countries people have forgotten how the system of Government is supposed to work.
But that can only be achieved with marches on parliament when they step out
of line...
The Government is supposed to bring the people along with it, to be open and honest and to hear the peoples views. The Government is supposed to be a caretaker, not a monarch, or dictator.
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 6:27:44 PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 03:01:00 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
There is a television series entitled The Man in the High Castle. NotWhat a load of crap - National has continually criticised Labour for
especially enlightening or indeed that interesting but I watched it as part of
a task I complete for my community from time to time.
It's an OK escapist alternative history piece of fiction.
But there is one part where the black folk of America fight back against those
that seek to control them. These folk have a slogan "No Masters But Ourselves"
- highly appropriate for people, many of whom, are descendants of slaves. >> >It got me thinking, that is not a bad slogan for the people of New Zealand >> >right now. We are openly being told that the government, yes this government,
knows better than us and that we should do as we are told. That has been the
case for at least three long, inglorious years.
not being more authoritarian. Give a few examples of your fantasies,
Tony . . . .
The crap is all yours Rich. As usual! How about YOU provide evidence to back up your typical lie about National?!
Considering you constantly ignore the fact your prefered government not only is totalitarian and demanding. but it also doesn't abide by NZ bill of rights when supressing our freedoms!So, we are our own masters, throw these authoritarian, barely competent liars,In the rabbit hole of your mind, you are doubtless looking for a mix
into oblivion at the election. Time that we controlled our lives again with a
government that has, at least a possiibility (unlike this one) of being
democratic.
Time to take control and use our votes.
of Freedoms NZ and Vision NZ. Good luck to you . . .
Whatever we get in October will be a breath of fresh air after the tyranny of the silly little girl and her sausage roll prince who doesn't know what a woman is...
On 2023-09-01, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 6:27:44?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 03:01:00 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
There is a television series entitled The Man in the High Castle. NotWhat a load of crap - National has continually criticised Labour for
especially enlightening or indeed that interesting but I watched it as part of
a task I complete for my community from time to time.
It's an OK escapist alternative history piece of fiction.
But there is one part where the black folk of America fight back against those
that seek to control them. These folk have a slogan "No Masters But Ourselves"
- highly appropriate for people, many of whom, are descendants of slaves. >>> >It got me thinking, that is not a bad slogan for the people of New Zealand >>> >right now. We are openly being told that the government, yes this government,
knows better than us and that we should do as we are told. That has been the
case for at least three long, inglorious years.
not being more authoritarian. Give a few examples of your fantasies,
Tony . . . .
The crap is all yours Rich. As usual! How about YOU provide evidence to back up your typical lie about National?!
There are to points here. 1) The Government's attitude during Covid and the >co-governance issue. 2)The increase in crime
Rich has forgotten to mention the first case and is pointing out that >National has been during opposition by pointing out the crime rate increase >and that it needs fixing.
However one can argue that National has not told Labour to be authoritarian, >but rather that there is an issue in the law and order area and this needs >fixing.National are too busy demonstrating what authoritarian leadership is
Chris Finlayson perfected the art of signing off on legislation that
Considering you constantly ignore the fact your prefered government not only is totalitarian and demanding. but it also doesn't abide by NZ bill of rights when supressing our freedoms!So, we are our own masters, throw these authoritarian, barely competent liars,In the rabbit hole of your mind, you are doubtless looking for a mix
into oblivion at the election. Time that we controlled our lives again with a
government that has, at least a possiibility (unlike this one) of being >>> >democratic.
Time to take control and use our votes.
of Freedoms NZ and Vision NZ. Good luck to you . . .
Whatever we get in October will be a breath of fresh air after the tyranny of the silly little girl and her sausage roll prince who doesn't know what a woman is...
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 06:58:25 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:is an increase in inequality - the Ardern / Hipkins governments have
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 03:01:00 -0000 (UTC), TonySo you don't believe in people being freed from tyranny, no surprise there. What tyranny? The greatest tyranny we have had in the last 30 years
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
There is a television series entitled The Man in the High Castle. Not >>>especially enlightening or indeed that interesting but I watched it as part
of
a task I complete for my community from time to time.
It's an OK escapist alternative history piece of fiction.
But there is one part where the black folk of America fight back against >>>those
that seek to control them. These folk have a slogan "No Masters But >>>Ourselves"
- highly appropriate for people, many of whom, are descendants of slaves. >>>It got me thinking, that is not a bad slogan for the people of New Zealand
right now. We are openly being told that the government, yes this government,
knows better than us and that we should do as we are told. That has been the
case for at least three long, inglorious years.
What a load of crap - National has continually criticised Labour for
not being more authoritarian. Give a few examples of your fantasies, >>Tony . . . .
reduced that problem, but it is far from solved. National have given
up pretending that they have an objective of equal opportunity.
We need a government that actually understands their responsibilities to theirYou have not identified a problem . . .
masters.
Perhaps you could explain exactly what is wrong with that notion. But I doubt
you will even try.
This is nothing to do with National and the current, soon to be gone, >government is the most authoritarian I have ever suffered under. Perhaps youYou have not demonstrated anything except your own fantasies . . .
can show otherwise, but I doubt it.
Oh, and please stop you abuse, you tyranically little man.What abuse? Your nastiness does nothing for civilised discussion,
Tony; but perhaps you just want to demonstrate that you are a rude intolerant wannabe bully. I don't play those games, Tony.
The only rabbit hole is yours. I know nothing of either of those organisations.
So, we are our own masters, throw these authoritarian, barely competent >>>liars,
into oblivion at the election. Time that we controlled our lives again with a
government that has, at least a possiibility (unlike this one) of being >>>democratic.
Time to take control and use our votes.
In the rabbit hole of your mind, you are doubtless looking for a mix
of Freedoms NZ and Vision NZ. Good luck to you . . .
You are a very nasty little man.
And stop your childish abuse please. But I know that you cannot.
On 1 Sep 2023 07:50:40 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Not proven at all.
On 2023-09-01, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 6:27:44?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 03:01:00 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
There is a television series entitled The Man in the High Castle. Not >>>> >especially enlightening or indeed that interesting but I watched it as >>>> >part ofWhat a load of crap - National has continually criticised Labour for
a task I complete for my community from time to time.
It's an OK escapist alternative history piece of fiction.
But there is one part where the black folk of America fight back against >>>> >those
that seek to control them. These folk have a slogan "No Masters But
Ourselves"
- highly appropriate for people, many of whom, are descendants of slaves. >>>> >It got me thinking, that is not a bad slogan for the people of New
Zealand
right now. We are openly being told that the government, yes this
government,
knows better than us and that we should do as we are told. That has been >>>> >the
case for at least three long, inglorious years.
not being more authoritarian. Give a few examples of your fantasies,
Tony . . . .
The crap is all yours Rich. As usual! How about YOU provide evidence to >>>back up your typical lie about National?!
There are to points here. 1) The Government's attitude during Covid and the >>co-governance issue. 2)The increase in crime
Rich has forgotten to mention the first case and is pointing out that >>National has been during opposition by pointing out the crime rate increase >>and that it needs fixing.
Overall crime rates have generally been falling right through the
period of the Key/English Governments and the Ardern/Hipkins
governments. Gang crime did however increase with Australia sending so
many '501' deportees to New Zealand; and in the last few years of the >Key/English governments and since ram raids became quite visible;
perhaps exacerbated by large amounts of publicity giving encouragement
to some young people, and the exploitation of those young people by
organised crime adults (and in particular gangs).
National are too busy demonstrating what authoritarian leadership is
However one can argue that National has not told Labour to be authoritarian, >>but rather that there is an issue in the law and order area and this needs >>fixing.
like - Luxon's mistakes become instant policy, and the bungles of
Wallis get accepted as correct even when proved wrong - by $130
million!.
This government has done excatly the same thing. Co-governance denies human rights to certain parts of the poulation (tha largest part!).Chris Finlayson perfected the art of signing off on legislation that
Considering you constantly ignore the fact your prefered government not >>>only is totalitarian and demanding. but it also doesn't abide by NZ bill of >>>rights when supressing our freedoms!So, we are our own masters, throw these authoritarian, barely competent >>>> >liars,In the rabbit hole of your mind, you are doubtless looking for a mix
into oblivion at the election. Time that we controlled our lives again >>>> >with a
government that has, at least a possiibility (unlike this one) of being >>>> >democratic.
Time to take control and use our votes.
of Freedoms NZ and Vision NZ. Good luck to you . . .
did not comply with human rights - it always came through as late as
possible with something else to get in the news to hide it!
Whatever we get in October will be a breath of fresh air after the tyranny >>>of the silly little girl and her sausage roll prince who doesn't know what a >>>woman is...
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 06:58:25 -0000 (UTC), TonyAbsolute nonsense. Co-governance is tyranny, obviously.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:is an increase in inequality - the Ardern / Hipkins governments have
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 03:01:00 -0000 (UTC), TonySo you don't believe in people being freed from tyranny, no surprise there. >What tyranny? The greatest tyranny we have had in the last 30 years
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
There is a television series entitled The Man in the High Castle. Not >>>>especially enlightening or indeed that interesting but I watched it as part >>>>of
a task I complete for my community from time to time.
It's an OK escapist alternative history piece of fiction.
But there is one part where the black folk of America fight back against >>>>those
that seek to control them. These folk have a slogan "No Masters But >>>>Ourselves"
- highly appropriate for people, many of whom, are descendants of slaves. >>>>It got me thinking, that is not a bad slogan for the people of New Zealand >>>>right now. We are openly being told that the government, yes this >>>>government,
knows better than us and that we should do as we are told. That has been >>>>the
case for at least three long, inglorious years.
What a load of crap - National has continually criticised Labour for
not being more authoritarian. Give a few examples of your fantasies,
Tony . . . .
reduced that problem, but it is far from solved. National have given
up pretending that they have an objective of equal opportunity.
Yes I have, many times. Co-governance and the RMA replacement are all tyrannical.We need a government that actually understands their responsibilities to >>theirYou have not identified a problem . . .
masters.
Perhaps you could explain exactly what is wrong with that notion. But I doubt >>you will even try.
Read above you under-educated moron.This is nothing to do with National and the current, soon to be gone, >>government is the most authoritarian I have ever suffered under. Perhaps you >>can show otherwise, but I doubt it.You have not demonstrated anything except your own fantasies . . .
I have never bullied anybody and you know it - it is you that lives in a fantasy world.Oh, and please stop you abuse, you tyranically little man.What abuse? Your nastiness does nothing for civilised discussion,
Tony; but perhaps you just want to demonstrate that you are a rude
intolerant wannabe bully.
I don't play those games, Tony.Yes you do you tiny sarcastic man.
The only rabbit hole is yours. I know nothing of either of those >>organisations.
So, we are our own masters, throw these authoritarian, barely competent >>>>liars,
into oblivion at the election. Time that we controlled our lives again with >>>>a
government that has, at least a possiibility (unlike this one) of being >>>>democratic.
Time to take control and use our votes.
In the rabbit hole of your mind, you are doubtless looking for a mix
of Freedoms NZ and Vision NZ. Good luck to you . . .
You are a very nasty little man.
And stop your childish abuse please. But I know that you cannot.
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 21:29:41 -0000 (UTC), TonyYes it is. It is undemocratic and there is absolutely no fairness in it. If you cannot see that then you are either dumb or a liar.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:That is not obvious at all.
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 06:58:25 -0000 (UTC), TonyAbsolute nonsense. Co-governance is tyranny, obviously.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:is an increase in inequality - the Ardern / Hipkins governments have >>>reduced that problem, but it is far from solved. National have given
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 03:01:00 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:So you don't believe in people being freed from tyranny, no surprise there. >>>What tyranny? The greatest tyranny we have had in the last 30 years
There is a television series entitled The Man in the High Castle. Not >>>>>>especially enlightening or indeed that interesting but I watched it as >>>>>>part
of
a task I complete for my community from time to time.
It's an OK escapist alternative history piece of fiction.
But there is one part where the black folk of America fight back against >>>>>>those
that seek to control them. These folk have a slogan "No Masters But >>>>>>Ourselves"
- highly appropriate for people, many of whom, are descendants of slaves. >>>>>>It got me thinking, that is not a bad slogan for the people of New >>>>>>Zealand
right now. We are openly being told that the government, yes this >>>>>>government,
knows better than us and that we should do as we are told. That has been >>>>>>the
case for at least three long, inglorious years.
What a load of crap - National has continually criticised Labour for >>>>>not being more authoritarian. Give a few examples of your fantasies, >>>>>Tony . . . .
up pretending that they have an objective of equal opportunity.
The arrangements do not affect sovereigntyStop being such an asshole, you don't know what I think. How dare you make such an assinine assumption.
- parliament is supreme, but that does not stop co-operation within
that overall structure. Your problem Tony is that you believe that a
contract is not binding if one party is stronger than the other -
sorry but even recent National-led governments do not agree with you
on that.
I and many others have done excatly that. ANd you have seen that here.You have not shown that - evidence?Yes I have, many times. Co-governance and the RMA replacement are all >>tyrannical.
We need a government that actually understands their responsibilities to >>>>theirYou have not identified a problem . . .
masters.
Perhaps you could explain exactly what is wrong with that notion. But I >>>>doubt
you will even try.
So why dod you do it, and why did you start that here loser?Abuse - the last resort of a desperate loserRead above you under-educated moron.
This is nothing to do with National and the current, soon to be gone, >>>>government is the most authoritarian I have ever suffered under. Perhaps >>>>youYou have not demonstrated anything except your own fantasies . . .
can show otherwise, but I doubt it.
You are the one that abuses with your sarcasm and lies.more abuse . . .I have never bullied anybody and you know it - it is you that lives in a >>fantasy world.
Oh, and please stop you abuse, you tyranically little man.What abuse? Your nastiness does nothing for civilised discussion,
Tony; but perhaps you just want to demonstrate that you are a rude >>>intolerant wannabe bully.
I don't play those games, Tony.Yes you do you tiny sarcastic man.
Hard to believe that a large proportion of USA voters still support
Your often statement that National are authoritarian is a farcical one. This >>government - in common with most solidly left people are the authoritarians. >>Proven over the past 3 years and impossible to ignore or live with any more. >>They are on their way to oblivion.
So, we are our own masters, throw these authoritarian, barely competent >>>>>>liars,
into oblivion at the election. Time that we controlled our lives again >>>>>>with
a
government that has, at least a possiibility (unlike this one) of being >>>>>>democratic.
Time to take control and use our votes.
Trump, is it not?
Current polls indicate there are still quite a large segment of the >population who have not decided how to vote or are not prepared to
say. But you keep your fantasies if they give you comfort . . .
Pot. Kettle. Black . . .The only rabbit hole is yours. I know nothing of either of those >>>>organisations.
In the rabbit hole of your mind, you are doubtless looking for a mix >>>>>of Freedoms NZ and Vision NZ. Good luck to you . . .
You are a very nasty little man.
And stop your childish abuse please. But I know that you cannot.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:That is not obvious at all. The arrangements do not affect sovereignty
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 06:58:25 -0000 (UTC), TonyAbsolute nonsense. Co-governance is tyranny, obviously.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:is an increase in inequality - the Ardern / Hipkins governments have >>reduced that problem, but it is far from solved. National have given
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 03:01:00 -0000 (UTC), TonySo you don't believe in people being freed from tyranny, no surprise there. >>What tyranny? The greatest tyranny we have had in the last 30 years
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
There is a television series entitled The Man in the High Castle. Not >>>>>especially enlightening or indeed that interesting but I watched it as part
of
a task I complete for my community from time to time.
It's an OK escapist alternative history piece of fiction.
But there is one part where the black folk of America fight back against >>>>>those
that seek to control them. These folk have a slogan "No Masters But >>>>>Ourselves"
- highly appropriate for people, many of whom, are descendants of slaves. >>>>>It got me thinking, that is not a bad slogan for the people of New Zealand >>>>>right now. We are openly being told that the government, yes this >>>>>government,
knows better than us and that we should do as we are told. That has been >>>>>the
case for at least three long, inglorious years.
What a load of crap - National has continually criticised Labour for >>>>not being more authoritarian. Give a few examples of your fantasies, >>>>Tony . . . .
up pretending that they have an objective of equal opportunity.
You have not shown that - evidence?Yes I have, many times. Co-governance and the RMA replacement are all >tyrannical.
We need a government that actually understands their responsibilities to >>>theirYou have not identified a problem . . .
masters.
Perhaps you could explain exactly what is wrong with that notion. But I doubt
you will even try.
Abuse - the last resort of a desperate loserRead above you under-educated moron.
This is nothing to do with National and the current, soon to be gone, >>>government is the most authoritarian I have ever suffered under. Perhaps you >>>can show otherwise, but I doubt it.You have not demonstrated anything except your own fantasies . . .
more abuse . . .I have never bullied anybody and you know it - it is you that lives in a >fantasy world.
Oh, and please stop you abuse, you tyranically little man.What abuse? Your nastiness does nothing for civilised discussion,
Tony; but perhaps you just want to demonstrate that you are a rude >>intolerant wannabe bully.
I don't play those games, Tony.Yes you do you tiny sarcastic man.
Your often statement that National are authoritarian is a farcical one. This >government - in common with most solidly left people are the authoritarians. >Proven over the past 3 years and impossible to ignore or live with any more. >They are on their way to oblivion.Hard to believe that a large proportion of USA voters still support
So, we are our own masters, throw these authoritarian, barely competent >>>>>liars,
into oblivion at the election. Time that we controlled our lives again with
a
government that has, at least a possiibility (unlike this one) of being >>>>>democratic.
Time to take control and use our votes.
Pot. Kettle. Black . . .The only rabbit hole is yours. I know nothing of either of those >>>organisations.
In the rabbit hole of your mind, you are doubtless looking for a mix
of Freedoms NZ and Vision NZ. Good luck to you . . .
You are a very nasty little man.
And stop your childish abuse please. But I know that you cannot.
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