Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because there are more than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a political stunt!
https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because there are more than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a political stunt!
https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554Requires an account to be set up to read.
--Here ya go :)
Crash McBash
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:04:20?AM UTC+12, Crash wrote:should openly address uncertainties and exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians should dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of their policy measures.
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John BowesHere ya go :)
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because there are more than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a political stunt!Requires an account to be set up to read.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
--
Crash McBash
International scientists have jointly signed a declaration dismissing the existence of a climate crisis and insisting that carbon dioxide is beneficial to Earth.
There is no climate emergency, the Global Climate Intelligence Group (CLINTEL) said in its World Climate Declaration (pdf), made public in August. Climate science should be less political, while climate policies should be more scientific. Scientists
A total of 1,609 scientists and professionals from around the world have signed the declaration, including 321 from the United States.For instance, even though climate alarmists characterize CO2 as environmentally-damaging, the coalition pointed out that the gas is not a pollutant.
"Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a period of warming," the declaration said.
Warming is happening far slower than predicted by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely plausible as policy tools, the coalition said, adding that these models "exaggerate the effect of greenhouse gases" and "ignore the fact that enriching the atmosphere with CO2 is beneficial.
Carbon dioxide is essential to all life on earth and is favorable for nature. Extra CO2 results in the growth of global plant biomass while also boosting the yields of crops worldwide.it said.
CLINTEL also dismissed the narrative of global warming being linked to increased natural disasters like hurricanes, floods, and droughts, stressing that there is no statistical evidence to support these claims.
There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for panic and alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2 policy proposed for 2050. Go for adaptation instead of mitigation; adaptation works whatever the causes are,
To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe what the model makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of todays climate discussion to which climate models are central. Climate science has degenerated into a discussion based onbeliefs, not on sound self-critical science. Should not we free ourselves from the naive belief in immature climate models?
Climate Models and Sunlight Reflectionaccording to The Boston Globe.
Among the CLINTEL signatories are two Nobel laureatesphysicists John Francis Clauser from the United States and Ivan Giaever, a Norwegian-American.
Mr. Clauser has made a significant addition to climate models to dismiss the narrative of global warming: the visible light reflected by cumulus clouds which, on average, cover half of the earth.
Current climate models vastly underestimate this aspect of cumulus cloud reflection, which plays a key role in regulating the earths temperature. Mr. Clauser previously told President Joe Biden that he disagreed with his climate policies.
In May, Mr. Clauser was elected to the board of directors at the CO2 Coalition, a group focusing on the beneficial contributions of carbon dioxide in the environment.
The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous corruption of science that threatens the worlds economy and the well-being of billions of people, Mr. Clauser said in a May 5 statement.
Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive shock-journalistic pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat for a wide variety of other unrelated ills.
It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided business marketing agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and environmentalists. In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis.
False Doomsday Predictions, a Presidential Issue
CLINTELs declaration against the climate change narrative counters propaganda spread by climate alarmists who have long predicted doomsday scenarios triggered by global warmingnone of which have ever come true.
In 1970, some climate scientists predicted that the earth would move into a new ice age by the 21st century. Pollution expert James Lodge predicted that air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice age in the first third of the new century,
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration demanding the government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, Australia, on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)any nuclear holocaust by 2000.
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration demanding the government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, Australia, on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
In May 1982, Mostafa Tolba, then-executive director of the United Nations environmental program, said that if the world did not change course, it would face an environmental catastrophe which will witness devastation as complete, as irreversible, as
In June 2008, James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute of Space Sciences, said that within five to 10 years, the Arctic would have no ice left in the summer.
As climate alarmists continue to spread propaganda about global warming, the topic has become an issue in the 2024 presidential race, with multiple candidates openly dismissing it.
In a July 13 post on X, Democrat presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said that climate change is being used to control us through fear.
Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop pollution. Polluters make themselves rich by making the public pay for the damage they do," he said.
During the first 2024 GOP presidential debate, candidate Vivek Ramaswamy called climate change a hoax.
The reality is, the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our economy. And so the reality is, more people are dying of bad climate change policies than they are of actual climate change, he said.
High Temperatures, Bidens Appliance Crackdown
Climate activists have insisted that global warming is responsible for the soaring temperatures across the United States, even claiming that temperatures are hitting record highs.
In a recent interview with The Epoch Times, John Christy, a climatologist and professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, dismissed the narrative of record high temperatures.
Regionally, the West has seen its largest number of hot summer records in the past 100 years, but the Ohio Valley and Upper Midwest are experiencing their fewest, he said.
For the conterminous U.S. as a whole, the last 10 years have produced only an average number of records. The 1930s are still champs.
Climate change policies have been used to justify sweeping lifestyle changes across the United States by the Energy Department, like restricting home appliances, and sometimes, even outright banning them.
In June, the Energy Department proposed rules that would require ceiling fans to become more energy efficient, a development that could lead to manufacturers having to shell out $86.6 million per year in increased equipment costs.
In February, the DOE proposed energy efficiency rules targeting gas stoves that would affect half of all new models of such stoves sold in the United States while making most of the existing ones noncompliant.
In July, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission proposed a policy that would remove nearly all existing portable gas generators from the market.
The Biden administration has already implemented a ban on incandescent light bulbs, which came into effect on Aug. 1.
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John BowesYou don't need to do that to access that information. But having said that, John kindly posted the content for you\ anyway.
<bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because there are more >>than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a political stunt! >> >>https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
I am not prepared to give my email address to unknown organisations.
Did your favourite scientist "Dr Hatchard" sign?Irrelevant. Are you going to address the content? Really, are you?
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:56:43 -0700 (PDT), John BowesNone of which disproves John's evidence.
<bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:04:20?AM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John BowesHere ya go :)
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because there are more >>> >than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a political stunt!Requires an account to be set up to read.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
--
Crash McBash
International scientists have jointly signed a declaration dismissing the >>existence of a climate crisis and insisting that carbon dioxide is beneficial >>to Earth.
There is no climate emergency, the Global Climate Intelligence Group >>(CLINTEL) said in its World Climate Declaration (pdf), made public in August. >>Climate science should be less political, while climate policies should be >>more scientific. Scientists should openly address uncertainties and >>exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians should
dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of their
policy measures.
A total of 1,609 scientists and professionals from around the world have >>signed the declaration, including 321 from the United States.
"Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a period of >>warming," the declaration said.
Warming is happening far slower than predicted by the Intergovernmental >>Panel on Climate Change.
Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely plausible as >>policy tools, the coalition said, adding that these models "exaggerate the >>effect of greenhouse gases" and "ignore the fact that enriching the atmosphere
with CO2 is beneficial. For instance, even though climate alarmists >>characterize CO2 as environmentally-damaging, the coalition pointed out that >>the gas is not a pollutant.
Carbon dioxide is essential to all life on earth and is favorable for >>nature. Extra CO2 results in the growth of global plant biomass while also >>boosting the yields of crops worldwide.
CLINTEL also dismissed the narrative of global warming being linked to >>increased natural disasters like hurricanes, floods, and droughts, stressing >>that there is no statistical evidence to support these claims.
There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for panic and >>alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2 policy >>proposed for 2050. Go for adaptation instead of mitigation; adaptation works >>whatever the causes are, it said.
To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe what the model >>makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of todays climate discussion
to which climate models are central. Climate science has degenerated into a >>discussion based on beliefs, not on sound self-critical science. Should not we
free ourselves from the naive belief in immature climate models?
Climate Models and Sunlight Reflection
Among the CLINTEL signatories are two Nobel laureatesphysicists John Francis >>Clauser from the United States and Ivan Giaever, a Norwegian-American.
Mr. Clauser has made a significant addition to climate models to dismiss the >>narrative of global warming: the visible light reflected by cumulus clouds >>which, on average, cover half of the earth.
Current climate models vastly underestimate this aspect of cumulus cloud >>reflection, which plays a key role in regulating the earths temperature. Mr. >>Clauser previously told President Joe Biden that he disagreed with his climate
policies.
In May, Mr. Clauser was elected to the board of directors at the CO2 >>Coalition, a group focusing on the beneficial contributions of carbon dioxide >>in the environment.
The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous corruption >>of science that threatens the worlds economy and the well-being of billions of
people, Mr. Clauser said in a May 5 statement.
Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive shock-journalistic >>pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat for a wide >>variety of other unrelated ills.
It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided business marketing >>agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and environmentalists. >>In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis.
False Doomsday Predictions, a Presidential Issue
CLINTELs declaration against the climate change narrative counters >>propaganda spread by climate alarmists who have long predicted doomsday >>scenarios triggered by global warmingnone of which have ever come true.
In 1970, some climate scientists predicted that the earth would move into a >>new ice age by the 21st century. Pollution expert James Lodge predicted that >>air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice age in the first >>third of the new century, according to The Boston Globe.
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration demanding the >>government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, Australia, >>on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration demanding the >>government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, Australia, >>on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
In May 1982, Mostafa Tolba, then-executive director of the United Nations >>environmental program, said that if the world did not change course, it would >>face an environmental catastrophe which will witness devastation as complete,
as irreversible, as any nuclear holocaust by 2000.
In June 2008, James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute of Space >>Sciences, said that within five to 10 years, the Arctic would have no ice left
in the summer.
As climate alarmists continue to spread propaganda about global warming, the >>topic has become an issue in the 2024 presidential race, with multiple >>candidates openly dismissing it.
In a July 13 post on X, Democrat presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. >>said that climate change is being used to control us through fear.
Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop pollution. Polluters >>make themselves rich by making the public pay for the damage they do," he said.
During the first 2024 GOP presidential debate, candidate Vivek Ramaswamy >>called climate change a hoax.
The reality is, the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our economy. >>And so the reality is, more people are dying of bad climate change policies >>than they are of actual climate change, he said.
High Temperatures, Bidens Appliance Crackdown
Climate activists have insisted that global warming is responsible for the >>soaring temperatures across the United States, even claiming that temperatures
are hitting record highs.
In a recent interview with The Epoch Times, John Christy, a climatologist and >>professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, >>dismissed the narrative of record high temperatures.
Regionally, the West has seen its largest number of hot summer records in >>the past 100 years, but the Ohio Valley and Upper Midwest are experiencing >>their fewest, he said.
For the conterminous U.S. as a whole, the last 10 years have produced only >>an average number of records. The 1930s are still champs.
Climate change policies have been used to justify sweeping lifestyle changes >>across the United States by the Energy Department, like restricting home >>appliances, and sometimes, even outright banning them.
In June, the Energy Department proposed rules that would require ceiling fans >>to become more energy efficient, a development that could lead to manufacturers
having to shell out $86.6 million per year in increased equipment costs.
In February, the DOE proposed energy efficiency rules targeting gas stoves >>that would affect half of all new models of such stoves sold in the United >>States while making most of the existing ones noncompliant.
In July, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission proposed a policy that >>would remove nearly all existing portable gas generators from the market.
The Biden administration has already implemented a ban on incandescent light >>bulbs, which came into effect on Aug. 1.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guus_Berkhout
and also see some balance: >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_and_Climate_Intelligence_Unit
and again on the dark side this: >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation
and this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-61166339
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because there are more than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a political stunt!
https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:56:43 -0700 (PDT), John BowesScientists should openly address uncertainties and exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians should dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of their policy measures.
<bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:04:20?AM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John BowesHere ya go :)
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because there are more than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a political stunt!Requires an account to be set up to read.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
--
Crash McBash
International scientists have jointly signed a declaration dismissing the existence of a climate crisis and insisting that carbon dioxide is beneficial to Earth.
There is no climate emergency, the Global Climate Intelligence Group (CLINTEL) said in its World Climate Declaration (pdf), made public in August. Climate science should be less political, while climate policies should be more scientific.
For instance, even though climate alarmists characterize CO2 as environmentally-damaging, the coalition pointed out that the gas is not a pollutant.
A total of 1,609 scientists and professionals from around the world have signed the declaration, including 321 from the United States.
"Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a period of warming," the declaration said.
Warming is happening far slower than predicted by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely plausible as policy tools, the coalition said, adding that these models "exaggerate the effect of greenhouse gases" and "ignore the fact that enriching the atmosphere with CO2 is beneficial.
it said.
Carbon dioxide is essential to all life on earth and is favorable for nature. Extra CO2 results in the growth of global plant biomass while also boosting the yields of crops worldwide.
CLINTEL also dismissed the narrative of global warming being linked to increased natural disasters like hurricanes, floods, and droughts, stressing that there is no statistical evidence to support these claims.
There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for panic and alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2 policy proposed for 2050. Go for adaptation instead of mitigation; adaptation works whatever the causes are,
beliefs, not on sound self-critical science. Should not we free ourselves from the naive belief in immature climate models?
To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe what the model makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of todays climate discussion to which climate models are central. Climate science has degenerated into a discussion based on
century, according to The Boston Globe.
Climate Models and Sunlight Reflection
Among the CLINTEL signatories are two Nobel laureatesphysicists John Francis Clauser from the United States and Ivan Giaever, a Norwegian-American.
Mr. Clauser has made a significant addition to climate models to dismiss the narrative of global warming: the visible light reflected by cumulus clouds which, on average, cover half of the earth.
Current climate models vastly underestimate this aspect of cumulus cloud reflection, which plays a key role in regulating the earths temperature. Mr. Clauser previously told President Joe Biden that he disagreed with his climate policies.
In May, Mr. Clauser was elected to the board of directors at the CO2 Coalition, a group focusing on the beneficial contributions of carbon dioxide in the environment.
The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous corruption of science that threatens the worlds economy and the well-being of billions of people, Mr. Clauser said in a May 5 statement.
Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive shock-journalistic pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat for a wide variety of other unrelated ills.
It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided business marketing agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and environmentalists. In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis.
False Doomsday Predictions, a Presidential Issue
CLINTELs declaration against the climate change narrative counters propaganda spread by climate alarmists who have long predicted doomsday scenarios triggered by global warmingnone of which have ever come true.
In 1970, some climate scientists predicted that the earth would move into a new ice age by the 21st century. Pollution expert James Lodge predicted that air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice age in the first third of the new
any nuclear holocaust by 2000.
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration demanding the government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, Australia, on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration demanding the government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, Australia, on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
In May 1982, Mostafa Tolba, then-executive director of the United Nations environmental program, said that if the world did not change course, it would face an environmental catastrophe which will witness devastation as complete, as irreversible, as
In June 2008, James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute of Space Sciences, said that within five to 10 years, the Arctic would have no ice left in the summer.
As climate alarmists continue to spread propaganda about global warming, the topic has become an issue in the 2024 presidential race, with multiple candidates openly dismissing it.
In a July 13 post on X, Democrat presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said that climate change is being used to control us through fear.
Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop pollution. Polluters make themselves rich by making the public pay for the damage they do," he said.
During the first 2024 GOP presidential debate, candidate Vivek Ramaswamy called climate change a hoax.
The reality is, the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our economy. And so the reality is, more people are dying of bad climate change policies than they are of actual climate change, he said.
High Temperatures, Bidens Appliance Crackdown
Climate activists have insisted that global warming is responsible for the soaring temperatures across the United States, even claiming that temperatures are hitting record highs.
In a recent interview with The Epoch Times, John Christy, a climatologist and professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, dismissed the narrative of record high temperatures.
Regionally, the West has seen its largest number of hot summer records in the past 100 years, but the Ohio Valley and Upper Midwest are experiencing their fewest, he said.
For the conterminous U.S. as a whole, the last 10 years have produced only an average number of records. The 1930s are still champs.
Climate change policies have been used to justify sweeping lifestyle changes across the United States by the Energy Department, like restricting home appliances, and sometimes, even outright banning them.
In June, the Energy Department proposed rules that would require ceiling fans to become more energy efficient, a development that could lead to manufacturers having to shell out $86.6 million per year in increased equipment costs.
In February, the DOE proposed energy efficiency rules targeting gas stoves that would affect half of all new models of such stoves sold in the United States while making most of the existing ones noncompliant.
In July, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission proposed a policy that would remove nearly all existing portable gas generators from the market.
The Biden administration has already implemented a ban on incandescent light bulbs, which came into effect on Aug. 1.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guus_Berkhout
and also see some balance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_and_Climate_Intelligence_Unit
and again on the dark side this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation
and this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-61166339
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John BowesYou don't need to dumbo! I posted the text not just because I hoped imbeciles like you might learn. but then looks like you haven't learnt anything since leaving kindergarten...
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because there are more than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a political stunt!
https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554I am not prepared to give my email address to unknown organisations.
Did your favourite scientist "Dr Hatchard" sign?
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:56:43 -0700 (PDT), John BowesScientists should openly address uncertainties and exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians should dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of their policy measures.”
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:04:20?AM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John BowesHere ya go :)
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because there are more than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a political stunt!Requires an account to be set up to read.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
--
Crash McBash
International scientists have jointly signed a declaration dismissing the existence of a climate crisis and insisting that carbon dioxide is beneficial to Earth.
“There is no climate emergency,” the Global Climate Intelligence Group (CLINTEL) said in its World Climate Declaration (pdf), made public in August. “Climate science should be less political, while climate policies should be more scientific.
beneficial.” For instance, even though climate alarmists characterize CO2 as environmentally-damaging, the coalition pointed out that the gas is “not a pollutant.”A total of 1,609 scientists and professionals from around the world have signed the declaration, including 321 from the United States.
"Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a period of warming," the declaration said.
Warming is happening “far slower” than predicted by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
“Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely plausible as policy tools,” the coalition said, adding that these models "exaggerate the effect of greenhouse gases" and "ignore the fact that enriching the atmosphere with CO2 is
” it said.Carbon dioxide is “essential” to all life on earth and is “favorable” for nature. Extra CO2 results in the growth of global plant biomass while also boosting the yields of crops worldwide.
CLINTEL also dismissed the narrative of global warming being linked to increased natural disasters like hurricanes, floods, and droughts, stressing that there is “no statistical evidence” to support these claims.
“There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for panic and alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2 policy proposed for 2050. Go for adaptation instead of mitigation; adaptation works whatever the causes are,
beliefs, not on sound self-critical science. Should not we free ourselves from the naive belief in immature climate models?”“To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe what the model makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of today’s climate discussion to which climate models are central. Climate science has degenerated into a discussion based on
century,” according to The Boston Globe.Climate Models and Sunlight Reflection
Among the CLINTEL signatories are two Nobel laureates—physicists John Francis Clauser from the United States and Ivan Giaever, a Norwegian-American.
Mr. Clauser has made a significant addition to climate models to dismiss the narrative of global warming: the visible light reflected by cumulus clouds which, on average, cover half of the earth.
Current climate models vastly underestimate this aspect of cumulus cloud reflection, which plays a key role in regulating the earth’s temperature. Mr. Clauser previously told President Joe Biden that he disagreed with his climate policies.
In May, Mr. Clauser was elected to the board of directors at the CO2 Coalition, a group focusing on the beneficial contributions of carbon dioxide in the environment.
“The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous corruption of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being of billions of people,” Mr. Clauser said in a May 5 statement.
“Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive shock-journalistic pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat for a wide variety of other unrelated ills.”
“It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided business marketing agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and environmentalists. In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis.”
False Doomsday Predictions, a Presidential Issue
CLINTEL’s declaration against the climate change narrative counters propaganda spread by climate alarmists who have long predicted doomsday scenarios triggered by global warming—none of which have ever come true.
In 1970, some climate scientists predicted that the earth would move into a new ice age by the 21st century. Pollution expert James Lodge predicted that “air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice age in the first third of the new
as any nuclear holocaust” by 2000.Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration demanding the government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, Australia, on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration demanding the government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, Australia, on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
In May 1982, Mostafa Tolba, then-executive director of the United Nations environmental program, said that if the world did not change course, it would face an “environmental catastrophe which will witness devastation as complete, as irreversible,
In June 2008, James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute of Space Sciences, said that within five to 10 years, the Arctic would have no ice left in the summer.
As climate alarmists continue to spread propaganda about global warming, the topic has become an issue in the 2024 presidential race, with multiple candidates openly dismissing it.
In a July 13 post on X, Democrat presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said that climate change “is being used to control us through fear.”
“Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop pollution. Polluters make themselves rich by making the public pay for the damage they do," he said.
During the first 2024 GOP presidential debate, candidate Vivek Ramaswamy called climate change a “hoax.”
“The reality is, the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our economy. And so the reality is, more people are dying of bad climate change policies than they are of actual climate change,” he said.
High Temperatures, Biden’s Appliance Crackdown
Climate activists have insisted that global warming is responsible for the soaring temperatures across the United States, even claiming that temperatures are hitting record highs.
In a recent interview with The Epoch Times, John Christy, a climatologist and professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, dismissed the narrative of record high temperatures.
“Regionally, the West has seen its largest number of hot summer records in the past 100 years, but the Ohio Valley and Upper Midwest are experiencing their fewest,” he said.
“For the conterminous U.S. as a whole, the last 10 years have produced only an average number of records. The 1930s are still champs.”
Climate change policies have been used to justify sweeping lifestyle changes across the United States by the Energy Department, like restricting home appliances, and sometimes, even outright banning them.
In June, the Energy Department proposed rules that would require ceiling fans to become more energy efficient, a development that could lead to manufacturers having to shell out $86.6 million per year in “increased equipment costs.”
In February, the DOE proposed energy efficiency rules targeting gas stoves that would affect half of all new models of such stoves sold in the United States while making most of the existing ones noncompliant.
In July, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission proposed a policy that would remove nearly all existing portable gas generators from the market.
The Biden administration has already implemented a ban on incandescent light bulbs, which came into effect on Aug. 1.See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guus_Berkhout
and also see some balance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_and_Climate_Intelligence_Unit
and again on the dark side this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation
and this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-61166339
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:John did not post any evidence - a list of people sharing an opinion
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:56:43 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:None of which disproves John's evidence.
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:04:20?AM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John BowesHere ya go :)
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because there are more >>>> >than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a political stunt!Requires an account to be set up to read.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
--
Crash McBash
International scientists have jointly signed a declaration dismissing the >>>existence of a climate crisis and insisting that carbon dioxide is beneficial
to Earth.
There is no climate emergency, the Global Climate Intelligence Group >>>(CLINTEL) said in its World Climate Declaration (pdf), made public in August.
Climate science should be less political, while climate policies should be >>>more scientific. Scientists should openly address uncertainties and >>>exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians should
dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of their
policy measures.
A total of 1,609 scientists and professionals from around the world have >>>signed the declaration, including 321 from the United States.
"Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a period of >>>warming," the declaration said.
Warming is happening far slower than predicted by the Intergovernmental >>>Panel on Climate Change.
Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely plausible as >>>policy tools, the coalition said, adding that these models "exaggerate the >>>effect of greenhouse gases" and "ignore the fact that enriching the atmosphere
with CO2 is beneficial. For instance, even though climate alarmists >>>characterize CO2 as environmentally-damaging, the coalition pointed out that >>>the gas is not a pollutant.
Carbon dioxide is essential to all life on earth and is favorable for >>>nature. Extra CO2 results in the growth of global plant biomass while also >>>boosting the yields of crops worldwide.
CLINTEL also dismissed the narrative of global warming being linked to >>>increased natural disasters like hurricanes, floods, and droughts, stressing >>>that there is no statistical evidence to support these claims.
There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for panic and >>>alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2 policy >>>proposed for 2050. Go for adaptation instead of mitigation; adaptation works >>>whatever the causes are, it said.
To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe what the model >>>makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of todays climate discussion
to which climate models are central. Climate science has degenerated into a >>>discussion based on beliefs, not on sound self-critical science. Should not we
free ourselves from the naive belief in immature climate models?
Climate Models and Sunlight Reflection
Among the CLINTEL signatories are two Nobel laureatesphysicists John Francis
Clauser from the United States and Ivan Giaever, a Norwegian-American.
Mr. Clauser has made a significant addition to climate models to dismiss the >>>narrative of global warming: the visible light reflected by cumulus clouds >>>which, on average, cover half of the earth.
Current climate models vastly underestimate this aspect of cumulus cloud >>>reflection, which plays a key role in regulating the earths temperature. Mr.
Clauser previously told President Joe Biden that he disagreed with his climate
policies.
In May, Mr. Clauser was elected to the board of directors at the CO2 >>>Coalition, a group focusing on the beneficial contributions of carbon dioxide
in the environment.
The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous corruption >>>of science that threatens the worlds economy and the well-being of billions of
people, Mr. Clauser said in a May 5 statement.
Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive shock-journalistic >>>pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat for a wide >>>variety of other unrelated ills.
It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided business marketing >>>agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and environmentalists.
In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis.
False Doomsday Predictions, a Presidential Issue
CLINTELs declaration against the climate change narrative counters >>>propaganda spread by climate alarmists who have long predicted doomsday >>>scenarios triggered by global warmingnone of which have ever come true.
In 1970, some climate scientists predicted that the earth would move into a >>>new ice age by the 21st century. Pollution expert James Lodge predicted that >>>air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice age in the first >>>third of the new century, according to The Boston Globe.
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration demanding the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration demanding the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
In May 1982, Mostafa Tolba, then-executive director of the United Nations >>>environmental program, said that if the world did not change course, it would
face an environmental catastrophe which will witness devastation as complete,
as irreversible, as any nuclear holocaust by 2000.
In June 2008, James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute of Space >>>Sciences, said that within five to 10 years, the Arctic would have no ice left
in the summer.
As climate alarmists continue to spread propaganda about global warming, the >>>topic has become an issue in the 2024 presidential race, with multiple >>>candidates openly dismissing it.
In a July 13 post on X, Democrat presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
said that climate change is being used to control us through fear.
Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop pollution. Polluters >>>make themselves rich by making the public pay for the damage they do," he said.
During the first 2024 GOP presidential debate, candidate Vivek Ramaswamy >>>called climate change a hoax.
The reality is, the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our economy. >>>And so the reality is, more people are dying of bad climate change policies >>>than they are of actual climate change, he said.
High Temperatures, Bidens Appliance Crackdown
Climate activists have insisted that global warming is responsible for the >>>soaring temperatures across the United States, even claiming that temperatures
are hitting record highs.
In a recent interview with The Epoch Times, John Christy, a climatologist and
professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, >>>dismissed the narrative of record high temperatures.
Regionally, the West has seen its largest number of hot summer records in >>>the past 100 years, but the Ohio Valley and Upper Midwest are experiencing >>>their fewest, he said.
For the conterminous U.S. as a whole, the last 10 years have produced only >>>an average number of records. The 1930s are still champs.
Climate change policies have been used to justify sweeping lifestyle changes >>>across the United States by the Energy Department, like restricting home >>>appliances, and sometimes, even outright banning them.
In June, the Energy Department proposed rules that would require ceiling fans
to become more energy efficient, a development that could lead to manufacturers
having to shell out $86.6 million per year in increased equipment costs. >>>
In February, the DOE proposed energy efficiency rules targeting gas stoves >>>that would affect half of all new models of such stoves sold in the United >>>States while making most of the existing ones noncompliant.
In July, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission proposed a policy that >>>would remove nearly all existing portable gas generators from the market. >>>
The Biden administration has already implemented a ban on incandescent light >>>bulbs, which came into effect on Aug. 1.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guus_Berkhout
and also see some balance: >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_and_Climate_Intelligence_Unit
and again on the dark side this: >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation
and this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-61166339
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 02:47:26 -0000 (UTC), TonyFunny that you would say that considering your propensity to do exactly the same. Actually, many people espousing the same opinion is evidence! Look it up and learn (our law will give you a hint).
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:John did not post any evidence - a list of people sharing an opinion
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:56:43 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:None of which disproves John's evidence.
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:04:20?AM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John BowesHere ya go :)
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because there are >>>>> >more
than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a political >>>>> >stunt!
Requires an account to be set up to read.https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
--
Crash McBash
International scientists have jointly signed a declaration dismissing the >>>>existence of a climate crisis and insisting that carbon dioxide is >>>>beneficial
to Earth.
There is no climate emergency, the Global Climate Intelligence Group >>>>(CLINTEL) said in its World Climate Declaration (pdf), made public in >>>>August.
Climate science should be less political, while climate policies should be >>>>more scientific. Scientists should openly address uncertainties and >>>>exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians >>>>should
dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of >>>>their
policy measures.
A total of 1,609 scientists and professionals from around the world have >>>>signed the declaration, including 321 from the United States.
"Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a period of >>>>warming," the declaration said.
Warming is happening far slower than predicted by the Intergovernmental >>>>Panel on Climate Change.
Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely plausible as >>>>policy tools, the coalition said, adding that these models "exaggerate the >>>>effect of greenhouse gases" and "ignore the fact that enriching the >>>>atmosphere
with CO2 is beneficial. For instance, even though climate alarmists >>>>characterize CO2 as environmentally-damaging, the coalition pointed out >>>>that
the gas is not a pollutant.
Carbon dioxide is essential to all life on earth and is favorable for >>>>nature. Extra CO2 results in the growth of global plant biomass while also >>>>boosting the yields of crops worldwide.
CLINTEL also dismissed the narrative of global warming being linked to >>>>increased natural disasters like hurricanes, floods, and droughts, >>>>stressing
that there is no statistical evidence to support these claims.
There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for panic and >>>>alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2 policy >>>>proposed for 2050. Go for adaptation instead of mitigation; adaptation >>>>works
whatever the causes are, it said.
To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe what the model >>>>makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of todays climate >>>>discussion
to which climate models are central. Climate science has degenerated into a >>>>discussion based on beliefs, not on sound self-critical science. Should not >>>>we
free ourselves from the naive belief in immature climate models?
Climate Models and Sunlight Reflection
Among the CLINTEL signatories are two Nobel laureatesphysicists John >>>>Francis
Clauser from the United States and Ivan Giaever, a Norwegian-American.
Mr. Clauser has made a significant addition to climate models to dismiss >>>>the
narrative of global warming: the visible light reflected by cumulus clouds >>>>which, on average, cover half of the earth.
Current climate models vastly underestimate this aspect of cumulus cloud >>>>reflection, which plays a key role in regulating the earths temperature. >>>>Mr.
Clauser previously told President Joe Biden that he disagreed with his >>>>climate
policies.
In May, Mr. Clauser was elected to the board of directors at the CO2 >>>>Coalition, a group focusing on the beneficial contributions of carbon >>>>dioxide
in the environment.
The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous corruption >>>>of science that threatens the worlds economy and the well-being of >>>>billions of
people, Mr. Clauser said in a May 5 statement.
Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive shock-journalistic >>>>pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat for a wide >>>>variety of other unrelated ills.
It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided business >>>>marketing
agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and >>>>environmentalists.
In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis.
False Doomsday Predictions, a Presidential Issue
CLINTELs declaration against the climate change narrative counters >>>>propaganda spread by climate alarmists who have long predicted doomsday >>>>scenarios triggered by global warmingnone of which have ever come true. >>>>
In 1970, some climate scientists predicted that the earth would move into a >>>>new ice age by the 21st century. Pollution expert James Lodge predicted >>>>that
air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice age in the first >>>>third of the new century, according to The Boston Globe.
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration demanding >>>>the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, >>>>Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration demanding >>>>the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, >>>>Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
In May 1982, Mostafa Tolba, then-executive director of the United Nations >>>>environmental program, said that if the world did not change course, it >>>>would
face an environmental catastrophe which will witness devastation as >>>>complete,
as irreversible, as any nuclear holocaust by 2000.
In June 2008, James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute of Space >>>>Sciences, said that within five to 10 years, the Arctic would have no ice >>>>left
in the summer.
As climate alarmists continue to spread propaganda about global warming, >>>>the
topic has become an issue in the 2024 presidential race, with multiple >>>>candidates openly dismissing it.
In a July 13 post on X, Democrat presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy >>>>Jr.
said that climate change is being used to control us through fear.
Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop pollution. >>>>Polluters
make themselves rich by making the public pay for the damage they do," he >>>>said.
During the first 2024 GOP presidential debate, candidate Vivek Ramaswamy >>>>called climate change a hoax.
The reality is, the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our economy. >>>>And so the reality is, more people are dying of bad climate change policies >>>>than they are of actual climate change, he said.
High Temperatures, Bidens Appliance Crackdown
Climate activists have insisted that global warming is responsible for the >>>>soaring temperatures across the United States, even claiming that >>>>temperatures
are hitting record highs.
In a recent interview with The Epoch Times, John Christy, a climatologist >>>>and
professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in >>>>Huntsville,
dismissed the narrative of record high temperatures.
Regionally, the West has seen its largest number of hot summer records in >>>>the past 100 years, but the Ohio Valley and Upper Midwest are experiencing >>>>their fewest, he said.
For the conterminous U.S. as a whole, the last 10 years have produced only >>>>an average number of records. The 1930s are still champs.
Climate change policies have been used to justify sweeping lifestyle >>>>changes
across the United States by the Energy Department, like restricting home >>>>appliances, and sometimes, even outright banning them.
In June, the Energy Department proposed rules that would require ceiling >>>>fans
to become more energy efficient, a development that could lead to >>>>manufacturers
having to shell out $86.6 million per year in increased equipment costs. >>>>
In February, the DOE proposed energy efficiency rules targeting gas stoves >>>>that would affect half of all new models of such stoves sold in the United >>>>States while making most of the existing ones noncompliant.
In July, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission proposed a policy that >>>>would remove nearly all existing portable gas generators from the market. >>>>
The Biden administration has already implemented a ban on incandescent >>>>light
bulbs, which came into effect on Aug. 1.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guus_Berkhout
and also see some balance: >>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_and_Climate_Intelligence_Unit
and again on the dark side this: >>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation
and this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-61166339
is not evidence, Tony.
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 02:47:26 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou just can't help being a fucking imbecile Rich! Now if for once in your feral and useless life you managed to post some real evidence rather than parrot what your Marxist commissars want you to you might have a case. All you have at present is just a
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:John did not post any evidence - a list of people sharing an opinion
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:56:43 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:None of which disproves John's evidence.
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:04:20?AM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John BowesHere ya go :)
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because there are moreRequires an account to be set up to read.
than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a political stunt!
https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
--
Crash McBash
International scientists have jointly signed a declaration dismissing the >>>existence of a climate crisis and insisting that carbon dioxide is beneficial
to Earth.
“There is no climate emergency,” the Global Climate Intelligence Group
(CLINTEL) said in its World Climate Declaration (pdf), made public in August.
“Climate science should be less political, while climate policies should be
more scientific. Scientists should openly address uncertainties and >>>exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians should
dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of their
policy measures.”
A total of 1,609 scientists and professionals from around the world have >>>signed the declaration, including 321 from the United States.
"Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a period of >>>warming," the declaration said.
Warming is happening “far slower” than predicted by the Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change.
“Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely plausible as
policy tools,” the coalition said, adding that these models "exaggerate the
effect of greenhouse gases" and "ignore the fact that enriching the atmosphere
with CO2 is beneficial.” For instance, even though climate alarmists >>>characterize CO2 as environmentally-damaging, the coalition pointed out that
the gas is “not a pollutant.”
Carbon dioxide is “essential” to all life on earth and is “favorable” for
nature. Extra CO2 results in the growth of global plant biomass while also
boosting the yields of crops worldwide.
CLINTEL also dismissed the narrative of global warming being linked to >>>increased natural disasters like hurricanes, floods, and droughts, stressing
that there is “no statistical evidence” to support these claims.
“There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for panic and
alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2 policy >>>proposed for 2050. Go for adaptation instead of mitigation; adaptation works
whatever the causes are,” it said.
“To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe what the model >>>makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of today’s climate discussion
to which climate models are central. Climate science has degenerated into a
discussion based on beliefs, not on sound self-critical science. Should not we
free ourselves from the naive belief in immature climate models?”
Climate Models and Sunlight Reflection
Among the CLINTEL signatories are two Nobel laureates—physicists John Francis
Clauser from the United States and Ivan Giaever, a Norwegian-American. >>>
Mr. Clauser has made a significant addition to climate models to dismiss the
narrative of global warming: the visible light reflected by cumulus clouds
which, on average, cover half of the earth.
Current climate models vastly underestimate this aspect of cumulus cloud >>>reflection, which plays a key role in regulating the earth’s temperature. Mr.
Clauser previously told President Joe Biden that he disagreed with his climate
policies.
In May, Mr. Clauser was elected to the board of directors at the CO2 >>>Coalition, a group focusing on the beneficial contributions of carbon dioxide
in the environment.
“The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous corruption
of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being of billions of
people,” Mr. Clauser said in a May 5 statement.
“Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive shock-journalistic
pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat for a wide
variety of other unrelated ills.”
“It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided business marketing
agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and environmentalists.
In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis.”
False Doomsday Predictions, a Presidential Issue
CLINTEL’s declaration against the climate change narrative counters >>>propaganda spread by climate alarmists who have long predicted doomsday >>>scenarios triggered by global warming—none of which have ever come true.
In 1970, some climate scientists predicted that the earth would move into a
new ice age by the 21st century. Pollution expert James Lodge predicted that
“air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice age in the first
third of the new century,” according to The Boston Globe.
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration demanding the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration demanding the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
In May 1982, Mostafa Tolba, then-executive director of the United Nations >>>environmental program, said that if the world did not change course, it would
face an “environmental catastrophe which will witness devastation as complete,
as irreversible, as any nuclear holocaust” by 2000.
In June 2008, James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute of Space >>>Sciences, said that within five to 10 years, the Arctic would have no ice left
in the summer.
As climate alarmists continue to spread propaganda about global warming, the
topic has become an issue in the 2024 presidential race, with multiple >>>candidates openly dismissing it.
In a July 13 post on X, Democrat presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
said that climate change “is being used to control us through fear.” >>>
“Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop pollution. Polluters
make themselves rich by making the public pay for the damage they do," he said.
During the first 2024 GOP presidential debate, candidate Vivek Ramaswamy >>>called climate change a “hoax.”
“The reality is, the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our economy.
And so the reality is, more people are dying of bad climate change policies
than they are of actual climate change,” he said.
High Temperatures, Biden’s Appliance Crackdown
Climate activists have insisted that global warming is responsible for the
soaring temperatures across the United States, even claiming that temperatures
are hitting record highs.
In a recent interview with The Epoch Times, John Christy, a climatologist and
professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in Huntsville,
dismissed the narrative of record high temperatures.
“Regionally, the West has seen its largest number of hot summer records in
the past 100 years, but the Ohio Valley and Upper Midwest are experiencing
their fewest,” he said.
“For the conterminous U.S. as a whole, the last 10 years have produced only
an average number of records. The 1930s are still champs.”
Climate change policies have been used to justify sweeping lifestyle changes
across the United States by the Energy Department, like restricting home >>>appliances, and sometimes, even outright banning them.
In June, the Energy Department proposed rules that would require ceiling fans
to become more energy efficient, a development that could lead to manufacturers
having to shell out $86.6 million per year in “increased equipment costs.”
In February, the DOE proposed energy efficiency rules targeting gas stoves
that would affect half of all new models of such stoves sold in the United
States while making most of the existing ones noncompliant.
In July, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission proposed a policy that
would remove nearly all existing portable gas generators from the market. >>>
The Biden administration has already implemented a ban on incandescent light
bulbs, which came into effect on Aug. 1.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guus_Berkhout
and also see some balance: >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_and_Climate_Intelligence_Unit
and again on the dark side this: >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation
and this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-61166339
is not evidence, Tony.
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 02:47:26 -0000 (UTC), TonyFunny that you would say that considering your propensity to do exactly the >> same. Actually, many people espousing the same opinion is evidence!
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:John did not post any evidence - a list of people sharing an opinion
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:56:43 -0700 (PDT), John BowesNone of which disproves John's evidence.
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:04:20?AM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John BowesHere ya go :)
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because there are >> >>>>> >more
than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a political >> >>>>> >stunt!
Requires an account to be set up to read.https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
--
Crash McBash
International scientists have jointly signed a declaration dismissing
the
existence of a climate crisis and insisting that carbon dioxide is
beneficial
to Earth.
“There is no climate emergency,” the Global Climate Intelligence
Group
(CLINTEL) said in its World Climate Declaration (pdf), made public in
August.
“Climate science should be less political, while climate policies
should be
more scientific. Scientists should openly address uncertainties and
exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians >> >>>>should
dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of >> >>>>their
policy measures.”
A total of 1,609 scientists and professionals from around the world have >> >>>>signed the declaration, including 321 from the United States.
"Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a period of >> >>>>warming," the declaration said.
Warming is happening “far slower” than predicted by the
Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change.
“Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely plausible >> >>>>as
policy tools,” the coalition said, adding that these models
"exaggerate the
effect of greenhouse gases" and "ignore the fact that enriching the
atmosphere
with CO2 is beneficial.” For instance, even though climate alarmists >> >>>>characterize CO2 as environmentally-damaging, the coalition pointed out >> >>>>that
the gas is “not a pollutant.”
Carbon dioxide is “essential” to all life on earth and is
“favorable” for
nature. Extra CO2 results in the growth of global plant biomass while
also
boosting the yields of crops worldwide.
CLINTEL also dismissed the narrative of global warming being linked to >> >>>>increased natural disasters like hurricanes, floods, and droughts,
stressing
that there is “no statistical evidence” to support these claims.
“There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for panic >> >>>>and
alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2
policy
proposed for 2050. Go for adaptation instead of mitigation; adaptation >> >>>>works
whatever the causes are,” it said.
“To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe what the
model
makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of today’s climate >> >>>>discussion
to which climate models are central. Climate science has degenerated
into a
discussion based on beliefs, not on sound self-critical science. Should >> >>>>not
we
free ourselves from the naive belief in immature climate models?”
Climate Models and Sunlight Reflection
Among the CLINTEL signatories are two Nobel laureates—physicists John >> >>>>Francis
Clauser from the United States and Ivan Giaever, a Norwegian-American. >> >>>>
Mr. Clauser has made a significant addition to climate models to dismiss >> >>>>the
narrative of global warming: the visible light reflected by cumulus
clouds
which, on average, cover half of the earth.
Current climate models vastly underestimate this aspect of cumulus cloud >> >>>>reflection, which plays a key role in regulating the earth’s
temperature.
Mr.
Clauser previously told President Joe Biden that he disagreed with his >> >>>>climate
policies.
In May, Mr. Clauser was elected to the board of directors at the CO2
Coalition, a group focusing on the beneficial contributions of carbon
dioxide
in the environment.
“The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous
corruption
of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being of
billions of
people,” Mr. Clauser said in a May 5 statement.
“Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive
shock-journalistic
pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat for a >> >>>>wide
variety of other unrelated ills.”
“It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided business
marketing
agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and
environmentalists.
In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis.”
False Doomsday Predictions, a Presidential Issue
CLINTEL’s declaration against the climate change narrative counters
propaganda spread by climate alarmists who have long predicted doomsday >> >>>>scenarios triggered by global warming—none of which have ever come
true.
In 1970, some climate scientists predicted that the earth would move
into a
new ice age by the 21st century. Pollution expert James Lodge predicted >> >>>>that
“air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice age in the >> >>>>first
third of the new century,” according to The Boston Globe.
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration
demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney,
Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration
demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney,
Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
In May 1982, Mostafa Tolba, then-executive director of the United
Nations
environmental program, said that if the world did not change course, it >> >>>>would
face an “environmental catastrophe which will witness devastation as >> >>>>complete,
as irreversible, as any nuclear holocaust” by 2000.
In June 2008, James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute of
Space
Sciences, said that within five to 10 years, the Arctic would have no
ice
left
in the summer.
As climate alarmists continue to spread propaganda about global warming, >> >>>>the
topic has become an issue in the 2024 presidential race, with multiple >> >>>>candidates openly dismissing it.
In a July 13 post on X, Democrat presidential candidate Robert F.
Kennedy
Jr.
said that climate change “is being used to control us through fear.” >> >>>>
“Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop pollution.
Polluters
make themselves rich by making the public pay for the damage they do," >> >>>>he
said.
During the first 2024 GOP presidential debate, candidate Vivek Ramaswamy >> >>>>called climate change a “hoax.”
“The reality is, the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our
economy.
And so the reality is, more people are dying of bad climate change
policies
than they are of actual climate change,” he said.
High Temperatures, Biden’s Appliance Crackdown
Climate activists have insisted that global warming is responsible for >> >>>>the
soaring temperatures across the United States, even claiming that
temperatures
are hitting record highs.
In a recent interview with The Epoch Times, John Christy, a
climatologist
and
professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in
Huntsville,
dismissed the narrative of record high temperatures.
“Regionally, the West has seen its largest number of hot summer
records in
the past 100 years, but the Ohio Valley and Upper Midwest are
experiencing
their fewest,” he said.
“For the conterminous U.S. as a whole, the last 10 years have produced >> >>>>only
an average number of records. The 1930s are still champs.”
Climate change policies have been used to justify sweeping lifestyle
changes
across the United States by the Energy Department, like restricting home >> >>>>appliances, and sometimes, even outright banning them.
In June, the Energy Department proposed rules that would require ceiling >> >>>>fans
to become more energy efficient, a development that could lead to
manufacturers
having to shell out $86.6 million per year in “increased equipment
costs.”
In February, the DOE proposed energy efficiency rules targeting gas
stoves
that would affect half of all new models of such stoves sold in the
United
States while making most of the existing ones noncompliant.
In July, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission proposed a policy >> >>>>that
would remove nearly all existing portable gas generators from the
market.
The Biden administration has already implemented a ban on incandescent >> >>>>light
bulbs, which came into effect on Aug. 1.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guus_Berkhout
and also see some balance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_and_Climate_Intelligence_Unit
and again on the dark side this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation
and this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-61166339
is not evidence, Tony.
In some circumstances, maybe.
https://sklaw.au/dictionary/opinion-evidence/
Ooops.Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 02:47:26 -0000 (UTC), TonyFunny that you would say that considering your propensity to do exactly the >> same. Actually, many people espousing the same opinion is evidence!
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:John did not post any evidence - a list of people sharing an opinion
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:56:43 -0700 (PDT), John BowesNone of which disproves John's evidence.
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:04:20?AM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John BowesHere ya go :)
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because there are >> >>>>> >more
than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a political >> >>>>> >stunt!
Requires an account to be set up to read.https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
--
Crash McBash
International scientists have jointly signed a declaration dismissing
the
existence of a climate crisis and insisting that carbon dioxide is
beneficial
to Earth.
“There is no climate emergency,” the Global Climate Intelligence
Group
(CLINTEL) said in its World Climate Declaration (pdf), made public in
August.
“Climate science should be less political, while climate policies
should be
more scientific. Scientists should openly address uncertainties and
exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians >> >>>>should
dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of >> >>>>their
policy measures.”
A total of 1,609 scientists and professionals from around the world have >> >>>>signed the declaration, including 321 from the United States.
"Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a period of >> >>>>warming," the declaration said.
Warming is happening “far slower” than predicted by the
Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change.
“Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely plausible >> >>>>as
policy tools,” the coalition said, adding that these models
"exaggerate the
effect of greenhouse gases" and "ignore the fact that enriching the
atmosphere
with CO2 is beneficial.” For instance, even though climate alarmists >> >>>>characterize CO2 as environmentally-damaging, the coalition pointed out >> >>>>that
the gas is “not a pollutant.”
Carbon dioxide is “essential” to all life on earth and is
“favorable” for
nature. Extra CO2 results in the growth of global plant biomass while
also
boosting the yields of crops worldwide.
CLINTEL also dismissed the narrative of global warming being linked to >> >>>>increased natural disasters like hurricanes, floods, and droughts,
stressing
that there is “no statistical evidence” to support these claims.
“There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for panic >> >>>>and
alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2
policy
proposed for 2050. Go for adaptation instead of mitigation; adaptation >> >>>>works
whatever the causes are,” it said.
“To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe what the
model
makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of today’s climate >> >>>>discussion
to which climate models are central. Climate science has degenerated
into a
discussion based on beliefs, not on sound self-critical science. Should >> >>>>not
we
free ourselves from the naive belief in immature climate models?”
Climate Models and Sunlight Reflection
Among the CLINTEL signatories are two Nobel laureates—physicists John >> >>>>Francis
Clauser from the United States and Ivan Giaever, a Norwegian-American. >> >>>>
Mr. Clauser has made a significant addition to climate models to dismiss >> >>>>the
narrative of global warming: the visible light reflected by cumulus
clouds
which, on average, cover half of the earth.
Current climate models vastly underestimate this aspect of cumulus cloud >> >>>>reflection, which plays a key role in regulating the earth’s
temperature.
Mr.
Clauser previously told President Joe Biden that he disagreed with his >> >>>>climate
policies.
In May, Mr. Clauser was elected to the board of directors at the CO2
Coalition, a group focusing on the beneficial contributions of carbon
dioxide
in the environment.
“The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous
corruption
of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being of
billions of
people,” Mr. Clauser said in a May 5 statement.
“Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive
shock-journalistic
pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat for a >> >>>>wide
variety of other unrelated ills.”
“It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided business
marketing
agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and
environmentalists.
In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis.”
False Doomsday Predictions, a Presidential Issue
CLINTEL’s declaration against the climate change narrative counters
propaganda spread by climate alarmists who have long predicted doomsday >> >>>>scenarios triggered by global warming—none of which have ever come
true.
In 1970, some climate scientists predicted that the earth would move
into a
new ice age by the 21st century. Pollution expert James Lodge predicted >> >>>>that
“air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice age in the >> >>>>first
third of the new century,” according to The Boston Globe.
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration
demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney,
Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration
demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney,
Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
In May 1982, Mostafa Tolba, then-executive director of the United
Nations
environmental program, said that if the world did not change course, it >> >>>>would
face an “environmental catastrophe which will witness devastation as >> >>>>complete,
as irreversible, as any nuclear holocaust” by 2000.
In June 2008, James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute of
Space
Sciences, said that within five to 10 years, the Arctic would have no
ice
left
in the summer.
As climate alarmists continue to spread propaganda about global warming, >> >>>>the
topic has become an issue in the 2024 presidential race, with multiple >> >>>>candidates openly dismissing it.
In a July 13 post on X, Democrat presidential candidate Robert F.
Kennedy
Jr.
said that climate change “is being used to control us through fear.” >> >>>>
“Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop pollution.
Polluters
make themselves rich by making the public pay for the damage they do," >> >>>>he
said.
During the first 2024 GOP presidential debate, candidate Vivek Ramaswamy >> >>>>called climate change a “hoax.”
“The reality is, the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our
economy.
And so the reality is, more people are dying of bad climate change
policies
than they are of actual climate change,” he said.
High Temperatures, Biden’s Appliance Crackdown
Climate activists have insisted that global warming is responsible for >> >>>>the
soaring temperatures across the United States, even claiming that
temperatures
are hitting record highs.
In a recent interview with The Epoch Times, John Christy, a
climatologist
and
professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in
Huntsville,
dismissed the narrative of record high temperatures.
“Regionally, the West has seen its largest number of hot summer
records in
the past 100 years, but the Ohio Valley and Upper Midwest are
experiencing
their fewest,” he said.
“For the conterminous U.S. as a whole, the last 10 years have produced >> >>>>only
an average number of records. The 1930s are still champs.”
Climate change policies have been used to justify sweeping lifestyle
changes
across the United States by the Energy Department, like restricting home >> >>>>appliances, and sometimes, even outright banning them.
In June, the Energy Department proposed rules that would require ceiling >> >>>>fans
to become more energy efficient, a development that could lead to
manufacturers
having to shell out $86.6 million per year in “increased equipment
costs.”
In February, the DOE proposed energy efficiency rules targeting gas
stoves
that would affect half of all new models of such stoves sold in the
United
States while making most of the existing ones noncompliant.
In July, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission proposed a policy >> >>>>that
would remove nearly all existing portable gas generators from the
market.
The Biden administration has already implemented a ban on incandescent >> >>>>light
bulbs, which came into effect on Aug. 1.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guus_Berkhout
and also see some balance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_and_Climate_Intelligence_Unit
and again on the dark side this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation
and this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-61166339
is not evidence, Tony.
In some circumstances, maybe.
https://sklaw.au/dictionary/opinion-evidence/
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 02:47:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Funny that you would say that considering your propensity to do exactly the same. Actually, many people espousing the same opinion is evidence!Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:John did not post any evidence - a list of people sharing an opinion
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:56:43 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:None of which disproves John's evidence.
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:04:20?AM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John BowesHere ya go :)
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because there are >>>>> >more
than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a political >>>>> >stunt!
Requires an account to be set up to read.https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
--
Crash McBash
International scientists have jointly signed a declaration dismissing the
existence of a climate crisis and insisting that carbon dioxide is >>>>beneficial
to Earth.
“There is no climate emergency,” the Global Climate Intelligence Group
(CLINTEL) said in its World Climate Declaration (pdf), made public in >>>>August.
“Climate science should be less political, while climate policies should be
more scientific. Scientists should openly address uncertainties and >>>>exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians >>>>should
dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of >>>>their
policy measures.”
A total of 1,609 scientists and professionals from around the world have >>>>signed the declaration, including 321 from the United States.
"Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a period of >>>>warming," the declaration said.
Warming is happening “far slower” than predicted by the Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change.
“Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely plausible as
policy tools,” the coalition said, adding that these models "exaggerate the
effect of greenhouse gases" and "ignore the fact that enriching the >>>>atmosphere
with CO2 is beneficial.” For instance, even though climate alarmists >>>>characterize CO2 as environmentally-damaging, the coalition pointed out >>>>that
the gas is “not a pollutant.”
Carbon dioxide is “essential” to all life on earth and is “favorable” for
nature. Extra CO2 results in the growth of global plant biomass while also
boosting the yields of crops worldwide.
CLINTEL also dismissed the narrative of global warming being linked to >>>>increased natural disasters like hurricanes, floods, and droughts, >>>>stressing
that there is “no statistical evidence” to support these claims. >>>>
“There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for panic and
alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2 policy
proposed for 2050. Go for adaptation instead of mitigation; adaptation >>>>works
whatever the causes are,” it said.
“To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe what the model
makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of today’s climate >>>>discussion
to which climate models are central. Climate science has degenerated into a
discussion based on beliefs, not on sound self-critical science. Should not
we
free ourselves from the naive belief in immature climate models?”
Climate Models and Sunlight Reflection
Among the CLINTEL signatories are two Nobel laureates—physicists John >>>>Francis
Clauser from the United States and Ivan Giaever, a Norwegian-American. >>>>
Mr. Clauser has made a significant addition to climate models to dismiss >>>>the
narrative of global warming: the visible light reflected by cumulus clouds
which, on average, cover half of the earth.
Current climate models vastly underestimate this aspect of cumulus cloud >>>>reflection, which plays a key role in regulating the earth’s temperature.
Mr.
Clauser previously told President Joe Biden that he disagreed with his >>>>climate
policies.
In May, Mr. Clauser was elected to the board of directors at the CO2 >>>>Coalition, a group focusing on the beneficial contributions of carbon >>>>dioxide
in the environment.
“The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous corruption
of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being of >>>>billions of
people,” Mr. Clauser said in a May 5 statement.
“Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive shock-journalistic
pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat for a wide
variety of other unrelated ills.”
“It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided business >>>>marketing
agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and >>>>environmentalists.
In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis.”
False Doomsday Predictions, a Presidential Issue
CLINTEL’s declaration against the climate change narrative counters >>>>propaganda spread by climate alarmists who have long predicted doomsday >>>>scenarios triggered by global warming—none of which have ever come true.
In 1970, some climate scientists predicted that the earth would move into a
new ice age by the 21st century. Pollution expert James Lodge predicted >>>>that
“air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice age in the first
third of the new century,” according to The Boston Globe.
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, >>>>Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images) >>>>Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, >>>>Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
In May 1982, Mostafa Tolba, then-executive director of the United Nations
environmental program, said that if the world did not change course, it >>>>would
face an “environmental catastrophe which will witness devastation as >>>>complete,
as irreversible, as any nuclear holocaust” by 2000.
In June 2008, James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute of Space
Sciences, said that within five to 10 years, the Arctic would have no ice
left
in the summer.
As climate alarmists continue to spread propaganda about global warming, >>>>the
topic has become an issue in the 2024 presidential race, with multiple >>>>candidates openly dismissing it.
In a July 13 post on X, Democrat presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy
Jr.
said that climate change “is being used to control us through fear.” >>>>
“Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop pollution. >>>>Polluters
make themselves rich by making the public pay for the damage they do," he
said.
During the first 2024 GOP presidential debate, candidate Vivek Ramaswamy >>>>called climate change a “hoax.”
“The reality is, the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our economy.
And so the reality is, more people are dying of bad climate change policies
than they are of actual climate change,” he said.
High Temperatures, Biden’s Appliance Crackdown
Climate activists have insisted that global warming is responsible for the
soaring temperatures across the United States, even claiming that >>>>temperatures
are hitting record highs.
In a recent interview with The Epoch Times, John Christy, a climatologist
and
professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in >>>>Huntsville,
dismissed the narrative of record high temperatures.
“Regionally, the West has seen its largest number of hot summer records in
the past 100 years, but the Ohio Valley and Upper Midwest are experiencing
their fewest,” he said.
“For the conterminous U.S. as a whole, the last 10 years have produced only
an average number of records. The 1930s are still champs.”
Climate change policies have been used to justify sweeping lifestyle >>>>changes
across the United States by the Energy Department, like restricting home >>>>appliances, and sometimes, even outright banning them.
In June, the Energy Department proposed rules that would require ceiling >>>>fans
to become more energy efficient, a development that could lead to >>>>manufacturers
having to shell out $86.6 million per year in “increased equipment costs.”
In February, the DOE proposed energy efficiency rules targeting gas stoves
that would affect half of all new models of such stoves sold in the United
States while making most of the existing ones noncompliant.
In July, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission proposed a policy that
would remove nearly all existing portable gas generators from the market.
The Biden administration has already implemented a ban on incandescent >>>>light
bulbs, which came into effect on Aug. 1.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guus_Berkhout
and also see some balance: >>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_and_Climate_Intelligence_Unit
and again on the dark side this: >>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation
and this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-61166339
is not evidence, Tony.
Keith Warren <keithdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 18:26:58 UTC+12, Tony wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 02:47:26 -0000 (UTC), TonyFunny that you would say that considering your propensity to do exactly the
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:John did not post any evidence - a list of people sharing an opinion
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:56:43 -0700 (PDT), John BowesNone of which disproves John's evidence.
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:04:20?AM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John BowesHere ya go :)
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because there are
more
than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a political
stunt!
Requires an account to be set up to read.https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
--
Crash McBash
International scientists have jointly signed a declaration dismissing >> >>>>the
existence of a climate crisis and insisting that carbon dioxide is
beneficial
to Earth.
“There is no climate emergency,” the Global Climate Intelligence >> >>>>Group
(CLINTEL) said in its World Climate Declaration (pdf), made public in >> >>>>August.
“Climate science should be less political, while climate policies >> >>>>should be
more scientific. Scientists should openly address uncertainties and >> >>>>exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians
should
dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of
their
policy measures.”
A total of 1,609 scientists and professionals from around the world have
signed the declaration, including 321 from the United States.
"Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a period of
warming," the declaration said.
Warming is happening “far slower” than predicted by the
Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change.
“Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely plausible
as
policy tools,” the coalition said, adding that these models
"exaggerate the
effect of greenhouse gases" and "ignore the fact that enriching the >> >>>>atmosphere
with CO2 is beneficial.” For instance, even though climate alarmists
characterize CO2 as environmentally-damaging, the coalition pointed out
that
the gas is “not a pollutant.”
Carbon dioxide is “essential” to all life on earth and is
“favorable” for
nature. Extra CO2 results in the growth of global plant biomass while >> >>>>also
boosting the yields of crops worldwide.
CLINTEL also dismissed the narrative of global warming being linked to
increased natural disasters like hurricanes, floods, and droughts,
stressing
that there is “no statistical evidence” to support these claims. >> >>>>
“There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for panic
and
alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2
policy
proposed for 2050. Go for adaptation instead of mitigation; adaptation
works
whatever the causes are,” it said.
“To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe what the >> >>>>model
makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of today’s climate
discussion
to which climate models are central. Climate science has degenerated >> >>>>into a
discussion based on beliefs, not on sound self-critical science. Should
not
we
free ourselves from the naive belief in immature climate models?” >> >>>>
Climate Models and Sunlight Reflection
Among the CLINTEL signatories are two Nobel laureates—physicists John
Francis
Clauser from the United States and Ivan Giaever, a Norwegian-American.
Mr. Clauser has made a significant addition to climate models to dismiss
the
narrative of global warming: the visible light reflected by cumulus >> >>>>clouds
which, on average, cover half of the earth.
Current climate models vastly underestimate this aspect of cumulus cloud
reflection, which plays a key role in regulating the earth’s
temperature.
Mr.
Clauser previously told President Joe Biden that he disagreed with his
climate
policies.
In May, Mr. Clauser was elected to the board of directors at the CO2 >> >>>>Coalition, a group focusing on the beneficial contributions of carbon >> >>>>dioxide
in the environment.
“The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous
corruption
of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being of >> >>>>billions of
people,” Mr. Clauser said in a May 5 statement.
“Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive
shock-journalistic
pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat for a
wide
variety of other unrelated ills.”
“It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided business >> >>>>marketing
agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and
environmentalists.
In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis.”
False Doomsday Predictions, a Presidential Issue
CLINTEL’s declaration against the climate change narrative counters >> >>>>propaganda spread by climate alarmists who have long predicted doomsday
scenarios triggered by global warming—none of which have ever come >> >>>>true.
In 1970, some climate scientists predicted that the earth would move >> >>>>into a
new ice age by the 21st century. Pollution expert James Lodge predicted
that
“air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice age in the
first
third of the new century,” according to The Boston Globe.
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration
demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney,
Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration
demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney,
Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
In May 1982, Mostafa Tolba, then-executive director of the United
Nations
environmental program, said that if the world did not change course, it
would
face an “environmental catastrophe which will witness devastation as
complete,
as irreversible, as any nuclear holocaust” by 2000.
In June 2008, James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute of >> >>>>Space
Sciences, said that within five to 10 years, the Arctic would have no >> >>>>ice
left
in the summer.
As climate alarmists continue to spread propaganda about global warming,
the
topic has become an issue in the 2024 presidential race, with multiple
candidates openly dismissing it.
In a July 13 post on X, Democrat presidential candidate Robert F.
Kennedy
Jr.
said that climate change “is being used to control us through fear.”
“Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop pollution. >> >>>>Polluters
make themselves rich by making the public pay for the damage they do,"
he
said.
During the first 2024 GOP presidential debate, candidate Vivek Ramaswamy
called climate change a “hoax.”
“The reality is, the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our >> >>>>economy.
And so the reality is, more people are dying of bad climate change
policies
than they are of actual climate change,” he said.
High Temperatures, Biden’s Appliance Crackdown
Climate activists have insisted that global warming is responsible for
the
soaring temperatures across the United States, even claiming that
temperatures
are hitting record highs.
In a recent interview with The Epoch Times, John Christy, a
climatologist
and
professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in
Huntsville,
dismissed the narrative of record high temperatures.
“Regionally, the West has seen its largest number of hot summer
records in
the past 100 years, but the Ohio Valley and Upper Midwest are
experiencing
their fewest,” he said.
“For the conterminous U.S. as a whole, the last 10 years have produced
only
an average number of records. The 1930s are still champs.”
Climate change policies have been used to justify sweeping lifestyle >> >>>>changes
across the United States by the Energy Department, like restricting home
appliances, and sometimes, even outright banning them.
In June, the Energy Department proposed rules that would require ceiling
fans
to become more energy efficient, a development that could lead to
manufacturers
having to shell out $86.6 million per year in “increased equipment >> >>>>costs.”
In February, the DOE proposed energy efficiency rules targeting gas >> >>>>stoves
that would affect half of all new models of such stoves sold in the >> >>>>United
States while making most of the existing ones noncompliant.
In July, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission proposed a policy
that
would remove nearly all existing portable gas generators from the
market.
The Biden administration has already implemented a ban on incandescent
light
bulbs, which came into effect on Aug. 1.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guus_Berkhout
and also see some balance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_and_Climate_Intelligence_Unit
and again on the dark side this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation
and this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-61166339
is not evidence, Tony.
same. Actually, many people espousing the same opinion is evidence!
In some circumstances, maybe.
https://sklaw.au/dictionary/opinion-evidence/
Enogh people in agreement makes it so.
On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 20:04:07 UTC+12, Tony wrote:
Keith Warren <keithdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 18:26:58 UTC+12, Tony wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 02:47:26 -0000 (UTC), TonyFunny that you would say that considering your propensity to do exactly the
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:John did not post any evidence - a list of people sharing an opinion
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:56:43 -0700 (PDT), John BowesNone of which disproves John's evidence.
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:04:20?AM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John BowesHere ya go :)
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because there are
more
than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a political
stunt!
Requires an account to be set up to read.https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
--
Crash McBash
International scientists have jointly signed a declaration dismissing >> >> >>>>the
existence of a climate crisis and insisting that carbon dioxide is
beneficial
to Earth.
There is no climate emergency, the Global Climate Intelligence
Group
(CLINTEL) said in its World Climate Declaration (pdf), made public in >> >> >>>>August.
Climate science should be less political, while climate policies
should be
more scientific. Scientists should openly address uncertainties and >> >> >>>>exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians
should
dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of
their
policy measures.
A total of 1,609 scientists and professionals from around the world have
signed the declaration, including 321 from the United States.
"Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a period of
warming," the declaration said.
Warming is happening far slower than predicted by the
Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change.
Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely plausible >> >> >>>>as
policy tools, the coalition said, adding that these models
"exaggerate the
effect of greenhouse gases" and "ignore the fact that enriching the >> >> >>>>atmosphere
with CO2 is beneficial. For instance, even though climate alarmists >> >> >>>>characterize CO2 as environmentally-damaging, the coalition pointed out
that
the gas is not a pollutant.
Carbon dioxide is essential to all life on earth and is
favorable for
nature. Extra CO2 results in the growth of global plant biomass while >> >> >>>>also
boosting the yields of crops worldwide.
CLINTEL also dismissed the narrative of global warming being linked to
increased natural disasters like hurricanes, floods, and droughts,
stressing
that there is no statistical evidence to support these claims.
There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for panic
and
alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2
policy
proposed for 2050. Go for adaptation instead of mitigation; adaptation
works
whatever the causes are, it said.
To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe what the
model
makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of todays climate >> >> >>>>discussion
to which climate models are central. Climate science has degenerated >> >> >>>>into a
discussion based on beliefs, not on sound self-critical science. Should
not
we
free ourselves from the naive belief in immature climate models?
Climate Models and Sunlight Reflection
Among the CLINTEL signatories are two Nobel laureatesphysicists John >> >> >>>>Francis
Clauser from the United States and Ivan Giaever, a Norwegian-American.
Mr. Clauser has made a significant addition to climate models to dismiss
the
narrative of global warming: the visible light reflected by cumulus >> >> >>>>clouds
which, on average, cover half of the earth.
Current climate models vastly underestimate this aspect of cumulus cloud
reflection, which plays a key role in regulating the earths
temperature.
Mr.
Clauser previously told President Joe Biden that he disagreed with his
climate
policies.
In May, Mr. Clauser was elected to the board of directors at the CO2 >> >> >>>>Coalition, a group focusing on the beneficial contributions of carbon >> >> >>>>dioxide
in the environment.
The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous
corruption
of science that threatens the worlds economy and the well-being of >> >> >>>>billions of
people, Mr. Clauser said in a May 5 statement.
Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive
shock-journalistic
pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat for a
wide
variety of other unrelated ills.
It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided business
marketing
agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and
environmentalists.
In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis.
False Doomsday Predictions, a Presidential Issue
CLINTELs declaration against the climate change narrative counters >> >> >>>>propaganda spread by climate alarmists who have long predicted doomsday
scenarios triggered by global warmingnone of which have ever come
true.
In 1970, some climate scientists predicted that the earth would move >> >> >>>>into a
new ice age by the 21st century. Pollution expert James Lodge predicted
that
air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice age in the >> >> >>>>first
third of the new century, according to The Boston Globe.
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration
demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney,
Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration
demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney,
Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
In May 1982, Mostafa Tolba, then-executive director of the United
Nations
environmental program, said that if the world did not change course, it
would
face an environmental catastrophe which will witness devastation as >> >> >>>>complete,
as irreversible, as any nuclear holocaust by 2000.
In June 2008, James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute of >> >> >>>>Space
Sciences, said that within five to 10 years, the Arctic would have no >> >> >>>>ice
left
in the summer.
As climate alarmists continue to spread propaganda about global warming,
the
topic has become an issue in the 2024 presidential race, with multiple
candidates openly dismissing it.
In a July 13 post on X, Democrat presidential candidate Robert F.
Kennedy
Jr.
said that climate change is being used to control us through fear. >> >> >>>>
Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop pollution.
Polluters
make themselves rich by making the public pay for the damage they do,"
he
said.
During the first 2024 GOP presidential debate, candidate Vivek Ramaswamy
called climate change a hoax.
The reality is, the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our
economy.
And so the reality is, more people are dying of bad climate change
policies
than they are of actual climate change, he said.
High Temperatures, Bidens Appliance Crackdown
Climate activists have insisted that global warming is responsible for
the
soaring temperatures across the United States, even claiming that
temperatures
are hitting record highs.
In a recent interview with The Epoch Times, John Christy, a
climatologist
and
professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in
Huntsville,
dismissed the narrative of record high temperatures.
Regionally, the West has seen its largest number of hot summer
records in
the past 100 years, but the Ohio Valley and Upper Midwest are
experiencing
their fewest, he said.
For the conterminous U.S. as a whole, the last 10 years have produced
only
an average number of records. The 1930s are still champs.
Climate change policies have been used to justify sweeping lifestyle >> >> >>>>changes
across the United States by the Energy Department, like restricting home
appliances, and sometimes, even outright banning them.
In June, the Energy Department proposed rules that would require ceiling
fans
to become more energy efficient, a development that could lead to
manufacturers
having to shell out $86.6 million per year in increased equipment
costs.
In February, the DOE proposed energy efficiency rules targeting gas >> >> >>>>stoves
that would affect half of all new models of such stoves sold in the >> >> >>>>United
States while making most of the existing ones noncompliant.
In July, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission proposed a policy
that
would remove nearly all existing portable gas generators from the
market.
The Biden administration has already implemented a ban on incandescent
light
bulbs, which came into effect on Aug. 1.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guus_Berkhout
and also see some balance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_and_Climate_Intelligence_Unit
and again on the dark side this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation
and this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-61166339
is not evidence, Tony.
same. Actually, many people espousing the same opinion is evidence!
In some circumstances, maybe.
https://sklaw.au/dictionary/opinion-evidence/
Enogh people in agreement makes it so.
This the conditional point I was presenting, requiring no further comment. IOW, it stands on its own self-evident merits.
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 01:26:29 -0700 (PDT), Keith WarrenSpeaking for yourself again I see Rich :)
<keithdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 20:04:07 UTC+12, Tony wrote:
Keith Warren <keithdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 18:26:58 UTC+12, Tony wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 02:47:26 -0000 (UTC), TonyFunny that you would say that considering your propensity to do exactly the
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:John did not post any evidence - a list of people sharing an opinion >> >> >is not evidence, Tony.
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:56:43 -0700 (PDT), John BowesNone of which disproves John's evidence.
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:04:20?AM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John BowesHere ya go :)
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because there are
more
than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a political
stunt!
Requires an account to be set up to read.https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
--
Crash McBash
International scientists have jointly signed a declaration dismissing
the
existence of a climate crisis and insisting that carbon dioxide is >> >> >>>>beneficial
to Earth.
“There is no climate emergency,” the Global Climate Intelligence
Group
(CLINTEL) said in its World Climate Declaration (pdf), made public in
August.
“Climate science should be less political, while climate policies
should be
more scientific. Scientists should openly address uncertainties and
exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians
should
dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of
their
policy measures.”
A total of 1,609 scientists and professionals from around the world have
signed the declaration, including 321 from the United States.
"Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a period of
warming," the declaration said.
Warming is happening “far slower” than predicted by the
Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change.
“Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely plausible
as
policy tools,” the coalition said, adding that these models
"exaggerate the
effect of greenhouse gases" and "ignore the fact that enriching the
atmosphere
with CO2 is beneficial.” For instance, even though climate alarmists
characterize CO2 as environmentally-damaging, the coalition pointed out
that
the gas is “not a pollutant.”
Carbon dioxide is “essential” to all life on earth and is
“favorable” for
nature. Extra CO2 results in the growth of global plant biomass while
also
boosting the yields of crops worldwide.
CLINTEL also dismissed the narrative of global warming being linked to
increased natural disasters like hurricanes, floods, and droughts, >> >> >>>>stressing
that there is “no statistical evidence” to support these claims.
“There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for panic
and
alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2 >> >> >>>>policy
proposed for 2050. Go for adaptation instead of mitigation; adaptation
works
whatever the causes are,” it said.
“To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe what the
model
makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of today’s climate
discussion
to which climate models are central. Climate science has degenerated
into a
discussion based on beliefs, not on sound self-critical science. Should
not
we
free ourselves from the naive belief in immature climate models?”
Climate Models and Sunlight Reflection
Among the CLINTEL signatories are two Nobel laureates—physicists John
Francis
Clauser from the United States and Ivan Giaever, a Norwegian-American.
Mr. Clauser has made a significant addition to climate models to dismiss
the
narrative of global warming: the visible light reflected by cumulus
clouds
which, on average, cover half of the earth.
Current climate models vastly underestimate this aspect of cumulus cloud
reflection, which plays a key role in regulating the earth’s
temperature.
Mr.
Clauser previously told President Joe Biden that he disagreed with his
climate
policies.
In May, Mr. Clauser was elected to the board of directors at the CO2
Coalition, a group focusing on the beneficial contributions of carbon
dioxide
in the environment.
“The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous >> >> >>>>corruption
of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being of
billions of
people,” Mr. Clauser said in a May 5 statement.
“Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive
shock-journalistic
pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat for a
wide
variety of other unrelated ills.”
“It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided business
marketing
agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and
environmentalists.
In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis.”
False Doomsday Predictions, a Presidential Issue
CLINTEL’s declaration against the climate change narrative counters
propaganda spread by climate alarmists who have long predicted doomsday
scenarios triggered by global warming—none of which have ever come
true.
In 1970, some climate scientists predicted that the earth would move
into a
new ice age by the 21st century. Pollution expert James Lodge predicted
that
“air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice age in the
first
third of the new century,” according to The Boston Globe.
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration
demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, >> >> >>>>Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration
demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, >> >> >>>>Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
In May 1982, Mostafa Tolba, then-executive director of the United >> >> >>>>Nations
environmental program, said that if the world did not change course, it
would
face an “environmental catastrophe which will witness devastation as
complete,
as irreversible, as any nuclear holocaust” by 2000.
In June 2008, James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute of
Space
Sciences, said that within five to 10 years, the Arctic would have no
ice
left
in the summer.
As climate alarmists continue to spread propaganda about global warming,
the
topic has become an issue in the 2024 presidential race, with multiple
candidates openly dismissing it.
In a July 13 post on X, Democrat presidential candidate Robert F. >> >> >>>>Kennedy
Jr.
said that climate change “is being used to control us through fear.”
“Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop pollution.
Polluters
make themselves rich by making the public pay for the damage they do,"
he
said.
During the first 2024 GOP presidential debate, candidate Vivek Ramaswamy
called climate change a “hoax.”
“The reality is, the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our
economy.
And so the reality is, more people are dying of bad climate change >> >> >>>>policies
than they are of actual climate change,” he said.
High Temperatures, Biden’s Appliance Crackdown
Climate activists have insisted that global warming is responsible for
the
soaring temperatures across the United States, even claiming that >> >> >>>>temperatures
are hitting record highs.
In a recent interview with The Epoch Times, John Christy, a
climatologist
and
professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in >> >> >>>>Huntsville,
dismissed the narrative of record high temperatures.
“Regionally, the West has seen its largest number of hot summer >> >> >>>>records in
the past 100 years, but the Ohio Valley and Upper Midwest are
experiencing
their fewest,” he said.
“For the conterminous U.S. as a whole, the last 10 years have produced
only
an average number of records. The 1930s are still champs.”
Climate change policies have been used to justify sweeping lifestyle
changes
across the United States by the Energy Department, like restricting home
appliances, and sometimes, even outright banning them.
In June, the Energy Department proposed rules that would require ceiling
fans
to become more energy efficient, a development that could lead to >> >> >>>>manufacturers
having to shell out $86.6 million per year in “increased equipment
costs.”
In February, the DOE proposed energy efficiency rules targeting gas
stoves
that would affect half of all new models of such stoves sold in the
United
States while making most of the existing ones noncompliant.
In July, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission proposed a policy
that
would remove nearly all existing portable gas generators from the >> >> >>>>market.
The Biden administration has already implemented a ban on incandescent
light
bulbs, which came into effect on Aug. 1.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guus_Berkhout
and also see some balance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_and_Climate_Intelligence_Unit >> >> >>>
and again on the dark side this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation >> >> >>>and this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-61166339
same. Actually, many people espousing the same opinion is evidence!
In some circumstances, maybe.
https://sklaw.au/dictionary/opinion-evidence/
Enogh people in agreement makes it so.
This the conditional point I was presenting, requiring no further comment. IOW, it stands on its own self-evident merits.Absolutely - but Tony is a bit of a flat-earther . . .he does not do conditional
As does mine.Keith Warren <keithdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 18:26:58 UTC+12, Tony wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 02:47:26 -0000 (UTC), TonyFunny that you would say that considering your propensity to do exactly >> >>the
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:John did not post any evidence - a list of people sharing an opinion
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:56:43 -0700 (PDT), John BowesNone of which disproves John's evidence.
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:04:20?AM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John BowesHere ya go :)
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because there >> >> >>>>> >are
more
than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a
political
stunt!
Requires an account to be set up to read.https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
--
Crash McBash
International scientists have jointly signed a declaration dismissing >> >> >>>>the
existence of a climate crisis and insisting that carbon dioxide is
beneficial
to Earth.
“There is no climate emergency,” the Global Climate Intelligence >> >> >>>>Group
(CLINTEL) said in its World Climate Declaration (pdf), made public in >> >> >>>>August.
“Climate science should be less political, while climate policies >> >> >>>>should be
more scientific. Scientists should openly address uncertainties and >> >> >>>>exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while
politicians
should
dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits >> >> >>>>of
their
policy measures.”
A total of 1,609 scientists and professionals from around the world >> >> >>>>have
signed the declaration, including 321 from the United States.
"Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a period >> >> >>>>of
warming," the declaration said.
Warming is happening “far slower” than predicted by the
Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change.
“Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely
plausible
as
policy tools,” the coalition said, adding that these models
"exaggerate the
effect of greenhouse gases" and "ignore the fact that enriching the >> >> >>>>atmosphere
with CO2 is beneficial.” For instance, even though climate
alarmists
characterize CO2 as environmentally-damaging, the coalition pointed >> >> >>>>out
that
the gas is “not a pollutant.”
Carbon dioxide is “essential” to all life on earth and is
“favorable” for
nature. Extra CO2 results in the growth of global plant biomass while >> >> >>>>also
boosting the yields of crops worldwide.
CLINTEL also dismissed the narrative of global warming being linked >> >> >>>>to
increased natural disasters like hurricanes, floods, and droughts,
stressing
that there is “no statistical evidence” to support these claims. >> >> >>>>
“There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for
panic
and
alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2
policy
proposed for 2050. Go for adaptation instead of mitigation;
adaptation
works
whatever the causes are,” it said.
“To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe what the >> >> >>>>model
makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of today’s
climate
discussion
to which climate models are central. Climate science has degenerated >> >> >>>>into a
discussion based on beliefs, not on sound self-critical science.
Should
not
we
free ourselves from the naive belief in immature climate models?” >> >> >>>>
Climate Models and Sunlight Reflection
Among the CLINTEL signatories are two Nobel laureates—physicists
John
Francis
Clauser from the United States and Ivan Giaever, a
Norwegian-American.
Mr. Clauser has made a significant addition to climate models to
dismiss
the
narrative of global warming: the visible light reflected by cumulus >> >> >>>>clouds
which, on average, cover half of the earth.
Current climate models vastly underestimate this aspect of cumulus
cloud
reflection, which plays a key role in regulating the earth’s
temperature.
Mr.
Clauser previously told President Joe Biden that he disagreed with
his
climate
policies.
In May, Mr. Clauser was elected to the board of directors at the CO2 >> >> >>>>Coalition, a group focusing on the beneficial contributions of carbon >> >> >>>>dioxide
in the environment.
“The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous
corruption
of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being of >> >> >>>>billions of
people,” Mr. Clauser said in a May 5 statement.
“Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive
shock-journalistic
pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat for >> >> >>>>a
wide
variety of other unrelated ills.”
“It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided business >> >> >>>>marketing
agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and
environmentalists.
In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis.”
False Doomsday Predictions, a Presidential Issue
CLINTEL’s declaration against the climate change narrative counters >> >> >>>>propaganda spread by climate alarmists who have long predicted
doomsday
scenarios triggered by global warming—none of which have ever come >> >> >>>>true.
In 1970, some climate scientists predicted that the earth would move >> >> >>>>into a
new ice age by the 21st century. Pollution expert James Lodge
predicted
that
“air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice age in
the
first
third of the new century,” according to The Boston Globe.
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration
demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney,
Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration
demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney,
Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
In May 1982, Mostafa Tolba, then-executive director of the United
Nations
environmental program, said that if the world did not change course, >> >> >>>>it
would
face an “environmental catastrophe which will witness devastation >> >> >>>>as
complete,
as irreversible, as any nuclear holocaust” by 2000.
In June 2008, James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute of >> >> >>>>Space
Sciences, said that within five to 10 years, the Arctic would have no >> >> >>>>ice
left
in the summer.
As climate alarmists continue to spread propaganda about global
warming,
the
topic has become an issue in the 2024 presidential race, with
multiple
candidates openly dismissing it.
In a July 13 post on X, Democrat presidential candidate Robert F.
Kennedy
Jr.
said that climate change “is being used to control us through
fear.”
“Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop pollution. >> >> >>>>Polluters
make themselves rich by making the public pay for the damage they
do,"
he
said.
During the first 2024 GOP presidential debate, candidate Vivek
Ramaswamy
called climate change a “hoax.”
“The reality is, the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our >> >> >>>>economy.
And so the reality is, more people are dying of bad climate change
policies
than they are of actual climate change,” he said.
High Temperatures, Biden’s Appliance Crackdown
Climate activists have insisted that global warming is responsible
for
the
soaring temperatures across the United States, even claiming that
temperatures
are hitting record highs.
In a recent interview with The Epoch Times, John Christy, a
climatologist
and
professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in
Huntsville,
dismissed the narrative of record high temperatures.
“Regionally, the West has seen its largest number of hot summer
records in
the past 100 years, but the Ohio Valley and Upper Midwest are
experiencing
their fewest,” he said.
“For the conterminous U.S. as a whole, the last 10 years have
produced
only
an average number of records. The 1930s are still champs.”
Climate change policies have been used to justify sweeping lifestyle >> >> >>>>changes
across the United States by the Energy Department, like restricting >> >> >>>>home
appliances, and sometimes, even outright banning them.
In June, the Energy Department proposed rules that would require
ceiling
fans
to become more energy efficient, a development that could lead to
manufacturers
having to shell out $86.6 million per year in “increased equipment >> >> >>>>costs.”
In February, the DOE proposed energy efficiency rules targeting gas >> >> >>>>stoves
that would affect half of all new models of such stoves sold in the >> >> >>>>United
States while making most of the existing ones noncompliant.
In July, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission proposed a
policy
that
would remove nearly all existing portable gas generators from the
market.
The Biden administration has already implemented a ban on
incandescent
light
bulbs, which came into effect on Aug. 1.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guus_Berkhout
and also see some balance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_and_Climate_Intelligence_Unit
and again on the dark side this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation
and this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-61166339
is not evidence, Tony.
same. Actually, many people espousing the same opinion is evidence!
In some circumstances, maybe.
https://sklaw.au/dictionary/opinion-evidence/
Enogh people in agreement makes it so.
This the conditional point I was presenting, requiring no further comment. >IOW, it stands on its own self-evident merits.
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 01:26:29 -0700 (PDT), Keith Warren ><keithdownsouth@gmail.com> wrote:Indeed I do, you are a conditional imbecile.
On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 20:04:07 UTC+12, Tony wrote:
Keith Warren <keithdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 18:26:58 UTC+12, Tony wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 02:47:26 -0000 (UTC), TonyFunny that you would say that considering your propensity to do exactly >>> >>the
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:John did not post any evidence - a list of people sharing an opinion >>> >> >is not evidence, Tony.
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:56:43 -0700 (PDT), John BowesNone of which disproves John's evidence.
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:04:20?AM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John BowesHere ya go :)
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because there >>> >> >>>>> >are
more
than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a
political
stunt!
Requires an account to be set up to read.https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
--
Crash McBash
International scientists have jointly signed a declaration
dismissing
the
existence of a climate crisis and insisting that carbon dioxide is >>> >> >>>>beneficial
to Earth.
There is no climate emergency, the Global Climate Intelligence
Group
(CLINTEL) said in its World Climate Declaration (pdf), made public >>> >> >>>>in
August.
Climate science should be less political, while climate policies >>> >> >>>>should be
more scientific. Scientists should openly address uncertainties and >>> >> >>>>exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while
politicians
should
dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined
benefits of
their
policy measures.
A total of 1,609 scientists and professionals from around the world >>> >> >>>>have
signed the declaration, including 321 from the United States.
"Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a period >>> >> >>>>of
warming," the declaration said.
Warming is happening far slower than predicted by the
Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change.
Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely
plausible
as
policy tools, the coalition said, adding that these models
"exaggerate the
effect of greenhouse gases" and "ignore the fact that enriching the >>> >> >>>>atmosphere
with CO2 is beneficial. For instance, even though climate alarmists >>> >> >>>>characterize CO2 as environmentally-damaging, the coalition pointed >>> >> >>>>out
that
the gas is not a pollutant.
Carbon dioxide is essential to all life on earth and is
favorable for
nature. Extra CO2 results in the growth of global plant biomass
while
also
boosting the yields of crops worldwide.
CLINTEL also dismissed the narrative of global warming being linked >>> >> >>>>to
increased natural disasters like hurricanes, floods, and droughts, >>> >> >>>>stressing
that there is no statistical evidence to support these claims.
There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for
panic
and
alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2 >>> >> >>>>policy
proposed for 2050. Go for adaptation instead of mitigation;
adaptation
works
whatever the causes are, it said.
To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe what the >>> >> >>>>model
makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of todays climate >>> >> >>>>discussion
to which climate models are central. Climate science has degenerated >>> >> >>>>into a
discussion based on beliefs, not on sound self-critical science.
Should
not
we
free ourselves from the naive belief in immature climate models? >>> >> >>>>
Climate Models and Sunlight Reflection
Among the CLINTEL signatories are two Nobel laureatesphysicists
John
Francis
Clauser from the United States and Ivan Giaever, a
Norwegian-American.
Mr. Clauser has made a significant addition to climate models to
dismiss
the
narrative of global warming: the visible light reflected by cumulus >>> >> >>>>clouds
which, on average, cover half of the earth.
Current climate models vastly underestimate this aspect of cumulus >>> >> >>>>cloud
reflection, which plays a key role in regulating the earths
temperature.
Mr.
Clauser previously told President Joe Biden that he disagreed with >>> >> >>>>his
climate
policies.
In May, Mr. Clauser was elected to the board of directors at the CO2 >>> >> >>>>Coalition, a group focusing on the beneficial contributions of
carbon
dioxide
in the environment.
The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous
corruption
of science that threatens the worlds economy and the well-being of >>> >> >>>>billions of
people, Mr. Clauser said in a May 5 statement.
Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive
shock-journalistic
pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat for >>> >> >>>>a
wide
variety of other unrelated ills.
It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided business >>> >> >>>>marketing
agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and
environmentalists.
In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis.
False Doomsday Predictions, a Presidential Issue
CLINTELs declaration against the climate change narrative counters >>> >> >>>>propaganda spread by climate alarmists who have long predicted
doomsday
scenarios triggered by global warmingnone of which have ever come >>> >> >>>>true.
In 1970, some climate scientists predicted that the earth would move >>> >> >>>>into a
new ice age by the 21st century. Pollution expert James Lodge
predicted
that
air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice age in the >>> >> >>>>first
third of the new century, according to The Boston Globe.
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration
demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, >>> >> >>>>Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration
demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, >>> >> >>>>Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
In May 1982, Mostafa Tolba, then-executive director of the United >>> >> >>>>Nations
environmental program, said that if the world did not change course, >>> >> >>>>it
would
face an environmental catastrophe which will witness devastation as >>> >> >>>>complete,
as irreversible, as any nuclear holocaust by 2000.
In June 2008, James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute of >>> >> >>>>Space
Sciences, said that within five to 10 years, the Arctic would have >>> >> >>>>no
ice
left
in the summer.
As climate alarmists continue to spread propaganda about global
warming,
the
topic has become an issue in the 2024 presidential race, with
multiple
candidates openly dismissing it.
In a July 13 post on X, Democrat presidential candidate Robert F. >>> >> >>>>Kennedy
Jr.
said that climate change is being used to control us through fear. >>> >> >>>>
Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop pollution. >>> >> >>>>Polluters
make themselves rich by making the public pay for the damage they >>> >> >>>>do,"
he
said.
During the first 2024 GOP presidential debate, candidate Vivek
Ramaswamy
called climate change a hoax.
The reality is, the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our >>> >> >>>>economy.
And so the reality is, more people are dying of bad climate change >>> >> >>>>policies
than they are of actual climate change, he said.
High Temperatures, Bidens Appliance Crackdown
Climate activists have insisted that global warming is responsible >>> >> >>>>for
the
soaring temperatures across the United States, even claiming that >>> >> >>>>temperatures
are hitting record highs.
In a recent interview with The Epoch Times, John Christy, a
climatologist
and
professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in
Huntsville,
dismissed the narrative of record high temperatures.
Regionally, the West has seen its largest number of hot summer
records in
the past 100 years, but the Ohio Valley and Upper Midwest are
experiencing
their fewest, he said.
For the conterminous U.S. as a whole, the last 10 years have
produced
only
an average number of records. The 1930s are still champs.
Climate change policies have been used to justify sweeping lifestyle >>> >> >>>>changes
across the United States by the Energy Department, like restricting >>> >> >>>>home
appliances, and sometimes, even outright banning them.
In June, the Energy Department proposed rules that would require
ceiling
fans
to become more energy efficient, a development that could lead to >>> >> >>>>manufacturers
having to shell out $86.6 million per year in increased equipment >>> >> >>>>costs.
In February, the DOE proposed energy efficiency rules targeting gas >>> >> >>>>stoves
that would affect half of all new models of such stoves sold in the >>> >> >>>>United
States while making most of the existing ones noncompliant.
In July, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission proposed a
policy
that
would remove nearly all existing portable gas generators from the >>> >> >>>>market.
The Biden administration has already implemented a ban on
incandescent
light
bulbs, which came into effect on Aug. 1.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guus_Berkhout
and also see some balance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_and_Climate_Intelligence_Unit >>> >> >>>
and again on the dark side this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation >>> >> >>>and this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-61166339
same. Actually, many people espousing the same opinion is evidence!
In some circumstances, maybe.
https://sklaw.au/dictionary/opinion-evidence/
Enogh people in agreement makes it so.
This the conditional point I was presenting, requiring no further comment. >>IOW, it stands on its own self-evident merits.
Absolutely - but Tony is a bit of a flat-earther . . .he does not do >conditional
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 9:10:27?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:Indeed, I was expressing my observations about Tony; and history of
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 01:26:29 -0700 (PDT), Keith WarrenSpeaking for yourself again I see Rich :)
<keithdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 20:04:07 UTC+12, Tony wrote:Absolutely - but Tony is a bit of a flat-earther . . .he does not do
Keith Warren <keithdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 18:26:58 UTC+12, Tony wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 02:47:26 -0000 (UTC), TonyFunny that you would say that considering your propensity to do exactly the
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:John did not post any evidence - a list of people sharing an opinion >> >> >> >is not evidence, Tony.
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:56:43 -0700 (PDT), John BowesNone of which disproves John's evidence.
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:04:20?AM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John BowesHere ya go :)
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because there are
more
than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a political
stunt!
Requires an account to be set up to read.https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
--
Crash McBash
International scientists have jointly signed a declaration dismissing
the
existence of a climate crisis and insisting that carbon dioxide is >> >> >> >>>>beneficial
to Earth.
There is no climate emergency, the Global Climate Intelligence >> >> >> >>>>Group
(CLINTEL) said in its World Climate Declaration (pdf), made public in
August.
Climate science should be less political, while climate policies >> >> >> >>>>should be
more scientific. Scientists should openly address uncertainties and
exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians
should
dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of
their
policy measures.
A total of 1,609 scientists and professionals from around the world have
signed the declaration, including 321 from the United States.
"Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a period of
warming," the declaration said.
Warming is happening far slower than predicted by the
Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change.
Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely plausible
as
policy tools, the coalition said, adding that these models
"exaggerate the
effect of greenhouse gases" and "ignore the fact that enriching the
atmosphere
with CO2 is beneficial. For instance, even though climate alarmists
characterize CO2 as environmentally-damaging, the coalition pointed out
that
the gas is not a pollutant.
Carbon dioxide is essential to all life on earth and is
favorable for
nature. Extra CO2 results in the growth of global plant biomass while
also
boosting the yields of crops worldwide.
CLINTEL also dismissed the narrative of global warming being linked to
increased natural disasters like hurricanes, floods, and droughts, >> >> >> >>>>stressing
that there is no statistical evidence to support these claims. >> >> >> >>>>
There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for panic
and
alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2 >> >> >> >>>>policy
proposed for 2050. Go for adaptation instead of mitigation; adaptation
works
whatever the causes are, it said.
To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe what the >> >> >> >>>>model
makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of todays climate
discussion
to which climate models are central. Climate science has degenerated
into a
discussion based on beliefs, not on sound self-critical science. Should
not
we
free ourselves from the naive belief in immature climate models? >> >> >> >>>>
Climate Models and Sunlight Reflection
Among the CLINTEL signatories are two Nobel laureatesphysicists John
Francis
Clauser from the United States and Ivan Giaever, a Norwegian-American.
Mr. Clauser has made a significant addition to climate models to dismiss
the
narrative of global warming: the visible light reflected by cumulus
clouds
which, on average, cover half of the earth.
Current climate models vastly underestimate this aspect of cumulus cloud
reflection, which plays a key role in regulating the earths
temperature.
Mr.
Clauser previously told President Joe Biden that he disagreed with his
climate
policies.
In May, Mr. Clauser was elected to the board of directors at the CO2
Coalition, a group focusing on the beneficial contributions of carbon
dioxide
in the environment.
The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous >> >> >> >>>>corruption
of science that threatens the worlds economy and the well-being of
billions of
people, Mr. Clauser said in a May 5 statement.
Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive
shock-journalistic
pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat for a
wide
variety of other unrelated ills.
It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided business >> >> >> >>>>marketing
agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and
environmentalists.
In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis.
False Doomsday Predictions, a Presidential Issue
CLINTELs declaration against the climate change narrative counters
propaganda spread by climate alarmists who have long predicted doomsday
scenarios triggered by global warmingnone of which have ever come >> >> >> >>>>true.
In 1970, some climate scientists predicted that the earth would move
into a
new ice age by the 21st century. Pollution expert James Lodge predicted
that
air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice age in the
first
third of the new century, according to The Boston Globe.
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration
demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, >> >> >> >>>>Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration
demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, >> >> >> >>>>Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
In May 1982, Mostafa Tolba, then-executive director of the United >> >> >> >>>>Nations
environmental program, said that if the world did not change course, it
would
face an environmental catastrophe which will witness devastation as
complete,
as irreversible, as any nuclear holocaust by 2000.
In June 2008, James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute of
Space
Sciences, said that within five to 10 years, the Arctic would have no
ice
left
in the summer.
As climate alarmists continue to spread propaganda about global warming,
the
topic has become an issue in the 2024 presidential race, with multiple
candidates openly dismissing it.
In a July 13 post on X, Democrat presidential candidate Robert F. >> >> >> >>>>Kennedy
Jr.
said that climate change is being used to control us through fear.
Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop pollution. >> >> >> >>>>Polluters
make themselves rich by making the public pay for the damage they do,"
he
said.
During the first 2024 GOP presidential debate, candidate Vivek Ramaswamy
called climate change a hoax.
The reality is, the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our >> >> >> >>>>economy.
And so the reality is, more people are dying of bad climate change >> >> >> >>>>policies
than they are of actual climate change, he said.
High Temperatures, Bidens Appliance Crackdown
Climate activists have insisted that global warming is responsible for
the
soaring temperatures across the United States, even claiming that >> >> >> >>>>temperatures
are hitting record highs.
In a recent interview with The Epoch Times, John Christy, a
climatologist
and
professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in >> >> >> >>>>Huntsville,
dismissed the narrative of record high temperatures.
Regionally, the West has seen its largest number of hot summer
records in
the past 100 years, but the Ohio Valley and Upper Midwest are
experiencing
their fewest, he said.
For the conterminous U.S. as a whole, the last 10 years have produced
only
an average number of records. The 1930s are still champs.
Climate change policies have been used to justify sweeping lifestyle
changes
across the United States by the Energy Department, like restricting home
appliances, and sometimes, even outright banning them.
In June, the Energy Department proposed rules that would require ceiling
fans
to become more energy efficient, a development that could lead to >> >> >> >>>>manufacturers
having to shell out $86.6 million per year in increased equipment >> >> >> >>>>costs.
In February, the DOE proposed energy efficiency rules targeting gas
stoves
that would affect half of all new models of such stoves sold in the
United
States while making most of the existing ones noncompliant.
In July, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission proposed a policy
that
would remove nearly all existing portable gas generators from the >> >> >> >>>>market.
The Biden administration has already implemented a ban on incandescent
light
bulbs, which came into effect on Aug. 1.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guus_Berkhout
and also see some balance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_and_Climate_Intelligence_Unit >> >> >> >>>
and again on the dark side this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation >> >> >> >>>and this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-61166339
same. Actually, many people espousing the same opinion is evidence!
In some circumstances, maybe.
https://sklaw.au/dictionary/opinion-evidence/
Enogh people in agreement makes it so.
This the conditional point I was presenting, requiring no further comment. IOW, it stands on its own self-evident merits.
conditional
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 02:55:51 -0700 (PDT), John BowesAbuse.
<bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 9:10:27?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:Indeed, I was expressing my observations about Tony
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 01:26:29 -0700 (PDT), Keith WarrenSpeaking for yourself again I see Rich :)
<keithdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 20:04:07 UTC+12, Tony wrote:Absolutely - but Tony is a bit of a flat-earther . . .he does not do
Keith Warren <keithdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 18:26:58 UTC+12, Tony wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:In some circumstances, maybe.
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 02:47:26 -0000 (UTC), TonyFunny that you would say that considering your propensity to do
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:John did not post any evidence - a list of people sharing an opinion >>> >> >> >is not evidence, Tony.
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:56:43 -0700 (PDT), John BowesNone of which disproves John's evidence.
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:04:20?AM UTC+12, Crash wrote: >>> >> >> >>>>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:Here ya go :)
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because
there are
more
than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a
political
stunt!
Requires an account to be set up to read.https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
--
Crash McBash
International scientists have jointly signed a declaration
dismissing
the
existence of a climate crisis and insisting that carbon dioxide >>> >> >> >>>>is
beneficial
to Earth.
There is no climate emergency, the Global Climate Intelligence >>> >> >> >>>>Group
(CLINTEL) said in its World Climate Declaration (pdf), made
public in
August.
Climate science should be less political, while climate policies >>> >> >> >>>>should be
more scientific. Scientists should openly address uncertainties >>> >> >> >>>>and
exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while
politicians
should
dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined
benefits of
their
policy measures.
A total of 1,609 scientists and professionals from around the
world have
signed the declaration, including 321 from the United States.
"Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a
period of
warming," the declaration said.
Warming is happening far slower than predicted by the
Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change.
Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely
plausible
as
policy tools, the coalition said, adding that these models
"exaggerate the
effect of greenhouse gases" and "ignore the fact that enriching >>> >> >> >>>>the
atmosphere
with CO2 is beneficial. For instance, even though climate
alarmists
characterize CO2 as environmentally-damaging, the coalition
pointed out
that
the gas is not a pollutant.
Carbon dioxide is essential to all life on earth and is
favorable for
nature. Extra CO2 results in the growth of global plant biomass >>> >> >> >>>>while
also
boosting the yields of crops worldwide.
CLINTEL also dismissed the narrative of global warming being
linked to
increased natural disasters like hurricanes, floods, and
droughts,
stressing
that there is no statistical evidence to support these claims. >>> >> >> >>>>
There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for >>> >> >> >>>>panic
and
alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero >>> >> >> >>>>CO2
policy
proposed for 2050. Go for adaptation instead of mitigation;
adaptation
works
whatever the causes are, it said.
To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe what the >>> >> >> >>>>model
makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of todays
climate
discussion
to which climate models are central. Climate science has
degenerated
into a
discussion based on beliefs, not on sound self-critical science. >>> >> >> >>>>Should
not
we
free ourselves from the naive belief in immature climate models? >>> >> >> >>>>
Climate Models and Sunlight Reflection
Among the CLINTEL signatories are two Nobel laureatesphysicists >>> >> >> >>>>John
Francis
Clauser from the United States and Ivan Giaever, a
Norwegian-American.
Mr. Clauser has made a significant addition to climate models to >>> >> >> >>>>dismiss
the
narrative of global warming: the visible light reflected by
cumulus
clouds
which, on average, cover half of the earth.
Current climate models vastly underestimate this aspect of
cumulus cloud
reflection, which plays a key role in regulating the earths
temperature.
Mr.
Clauser previously told President Joe Biden that he disagreed
with his
climate
policies.
In May, Mr. Clauser was elected to the board of directors at the >>> >> >> >>>>CO2
Coalition, a group focusing on the beneficial contributions of >>> >> >> >>>>carbon
dioxide
in the environment.
The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous >>> >> >> >>>>corruption
of science that threatens the worlds economy and the well-being >>> >> >> >>>>of
billions of
people, Mr. Clauser said in a May 5 statement.
Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive
shock-journalistic
pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat >>> >> >> >>>>for a
wide
variety of other unrelated ills.
It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided
business
marketing
agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and
environmentalists.
In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis.
False Doomsday Predictions, a Presidential Issue
CLINTELs declaration against the climate change narrative
counters
propaganda spread by climate alarmists who have long predicted >>> >> >> >>>>doomsday
scenarios triggered by global warmingnone of which have ever
come
true.
In 1970, some climate scientists predicted that the earth would >>> >> >> >>>>move
into a
new ice age by the 21st century. Pollution expert James Lodge
predicted
that
air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice age in >>> >> >> >>>>the
first
third of the new century, according to The Boston Globe.
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration >>> >> >> >>>>demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in
Sydney,
Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration >>> >> >> >>>>demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in
Sydney,
Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
In May 1982, Mostafa Tolba, then-executive director of the United >>> >> >> >>>>Nations
environmental program, said that if the world did not change
course, it
would
face an environmental catastrophe which will witness devastation >>> >> >> >>>>as
complete,
as irreversible, as any nuclear holocaust by 2000.
In June 2008, James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute >>> >> >> >>>>of
Space
Sciences, said that within five to 10 years, the Arctic would
have no
ice
left
in the summer.
As climate alarmists continue to spread propaganda about global >>> >> >> >>>>warming,
the
topic has become an issue in the 2024 presidential race, with
multiple
candidates openly dismissing it.
In a July 13 post on X, Democrat presidential candidate Robert F. >>> >> >> >>>>Kennedy
Jr.
said that climate change is being used to control us through
fear.
Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop
pollution.
Polluters
make themselves rich by making the public pay for the damage they >>> >> >> >>>>do,"
he
said.
During the first 2024 GOP presidential debate, candidate Vivek >>> >> >> >>>>Ramaswamy
called climate change a hoax.
The reality is, the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our >>> >> >> >>>>economy.
And so the reality is, more people are dying of bad climate
change
policies
than they are of actual climate change, he said.
High Temperatures, Bidens Appliance Crackdown
Climate activists have insisted that global warming is
responsible for
the
soaring temperatures across the United States, even claiming that >>> >> >> >>>>temperatures
are hitting record highs.
In a recent interview with The Epoch Times, John Christy, a
climatologist
and
professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in >>> >> >> >>>>Huntsville,
dismissed the narrative of record high temperatures.
Regionally, the West has seen its largest number of hot summer >>> >> >> >>>>records in
the past 100 years, but the Ohio Valley and Upper Midwest are
experiencing
their fewest, he said.
For the conterminous U.S. as a whole, the last 10 years have
produced
only
an average number of records. The 1930s are still champs.
Climate change policies have been used to justify sweeping
lifestyle
changes
across the United States by the Energy Department, like
restricting home
appliances, and sometimes, even outright banning them.
In June, the Energy Department proposed rules that would require >>> >> >> >>>>ceiling
fans
to become more energy efficient, a development that could lead to >>> >> >> >>>>manufacturers
having to shell out $86.6 million per year in increased
equipment
costs.
In February, the DOE proposed energy efficiency rules targeting >>> >> >> >>>>gas
stoves
that would affect half of all new models of such stoves sold in >>> >> >> >>>>the
United
States while making most of the existing ones noncompliant.
In July, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission proposed a >>> >> >> >>>>policy
that
would remove nearly all existing portable gas generators from the >>> >> >> >>>>market.
The Biden administration has already implemented a ban on
incandescent
light
bulbs, which came into effect on Aug. 1.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guus_Berkhout
and also see some balance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_and_Climate_Intelligence_Unit >>> >> >> >>>
and again on the dark side this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation >>> >> >> >>>and this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-61166339
exactly the
same. Actually, many people espousing the same opinion is evidence! >>> >> >
https://sklaw.au/dictionary/opinion-evidence/
Enogh people in agreement makes it so.
This the conditional point I was presenting, requiring no further comment. >>> >IOW, it stands on its own self-evident merits.
conditional
; and history of
nz.general demonstrates that where Tony goes so John Bowes follows.
Now you and Tony may have a different opinion, but 2 to 1 is not
conclusive - understand?
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 02:55:51 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 9:10:27?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:Indeed, I was expressing my observations about Tony; and history of nz.general demonstrates that where Tony goes so John Bowes follows.
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 01:26:29 -0700 (PDT), Keith WarrenSpeaking for yourself again I see Rich :)
<keithdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 20:04:07 UTC+12, Tony wrote:Absolutely - but Tony is a bit of a flat-earther . . .he does not do
Keith Warren <keithdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 18:26:58 UTC+12, Tony wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:In some circumstances, maybe.
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 02:47:26 -0000 (UTC), TonyFunny that you would say that considering your propensity to do exactly the
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:John did not post any evidence - a list of people sharing an opinion
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:56:43 -0700 (PDT), John BowesNone of which disproves John's evidence.
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:04:20?AM UTC+12, Crash wrote: >> >> >> >>>>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:Here ya go :)
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because there are
more
than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a political
stunt!
Requires an account to be set up to read.https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
--
Crash McBash
International scientists have jointly signed a declaration dismissing
the
existence of a climate crisis and insisting that carbon dioxide is
beneficial
to Earth.
“There is no climate emergency,” the Global Climate Intelligence
Group
(CLINTEL) said in its World Climate Declaration (pdf), made public in
August.
“Climate science should be less political, while climate policies
should be
more scientific. Scientists should openly address uncertainties and
exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians
should
dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of
their
policy measures.”
A total of 1,609 scientists and professionals from around the world have
signed the declaration, including 321 from the United States. >> >> >> >>>>
"Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a period of
warming," the declaration said.
Warming is happening “far slower” than predicted by the
Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change.
“Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely plausible
as
policy tools,” the coalition said, adding that these models >> >> >> >>>>"exaggerate the
effect of greenhouse gases" and "ignore the fact that enriching the
atmosphere
with CO2 is beneficial.” For instance, even though climate alarmists
characterize CO2 as environmentally-damaging, the coalition pointed out
that
the gas is “not a pollutant.”
Carbon dioxide is “essential” to all life on earth and is >> >> >> >>>>“favorable” for
nature. Extra CO2 results in the growth of global plant biomass while
also
boosting the yields of crops worldwide.
CLINTEL also dismissed the narrative of global warming being linked to
increased natural disasters like hurricanes, floods, and droughts,
stressing
that there is “no statistical evidence” to support these claims.
“There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for panic
and
alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2
policy
proposed for 2050. Go for adaptation instead of mitigation; adaptation
works
whatever the causes are,” it said.
“To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe what the
model
makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of today’s climate
discussion
to which climate models are central. Climate science has degenerated
into a
discussion based on beliefs, not on sound self-critical science. Should
not
we
free ourselves from the naive belief in immature climate models?”
Climate Models and Sunlight Reflection
Among the CLINTEL signatories are two Nobel laureates—physicists John
Francis
Clauser from the United States and Ivan Giaever, a Norwegian-American.
Mr. Clauser has made a significant addition to climate models to dismiss
the
narrative of global warming: the visible light reflected by cumulus
clouds
which, on average, cover half of the earth.
Current climate models vastly underestimate this aspect of cumulus cloud
reflection, which plays a key role in regulating the earth’s >> >> >> >>>>temperature.
Mr.
Clauser previously told President Joe Biden that he disagreed with his
climate
policies.
In May, Mr. Clauser was elected to the board of directors at the CO2
Coalition, a group focusing on the beneficial contributions of carbon
dioxide
in the environment.
“The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous
corruption
of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being of
billions of
people,” Mr. Clauser said in a May 5 statement.
“Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive
shock-journalistic
pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat for a
wide
variety of other unrelated ills.”
“It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided business
marketing
agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and
environmentalists.
In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis.”
False Doomsday Predictions, a Presidential Issue
CLINTEL’s declaration against the climate change narrative counters
propaganda spread by climate alarmists who have long predicted doomsday
scenarios triggered by global warming—none of which have ever come
true.
In 1970, some climate scientists predicted that the earth would move
into a
new ice age by the 21st century. Pollution expert James Lodge predicted
that
“air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice age in the
first
third of the new century,” according to The Boston Globe.
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration >> >> >> >>>>demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney,
Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration >> >> >> >>>>demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney,
Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
In May 1982, Mostafa Tolba, then-executive director of the United
Nations
environmental program, said that if the world did not change course, it
would
face an “environmental catastrophe which will witness devastation as
complete,
as irreversible, as any nuclear holocaust” by 2000.
In June 2008, James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute of
Space
Sciences, said that within five to 10 years, the Arctic would have no
ice
left
in the summer.
As climate alarmists continue to spread propaganda about global warming,
the
topic has become an issue in the 2024 presidential race, with multiple
candidates openly dismissing it.
In a July 13 post on X, Democrat presidential candidate Robert F.
Kennedy
Jr.
said that climate change “is being used to control us through fear.”
“Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop pollution.
Polluters
make themselves rich by making the public pay for the damage they do,"
he
said.
During the first 2024 GOP presidential debate, candidate Vivek Ramaswamy
called climate change a “hoax.”
“The reality is, the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our
economy.
And so the reality is, more people are dying of bad climate change
policies
than they are of actual climate change,” he said.
High Temperatures, Biden’s Appliance Crackdown
Climate activists have insisted that global warming is responsible for
the
soaring temperatures across the United States, even claiming that
temperatures
are hitting record highs.
In a recent interview with The Epoch Times, John Christy, a
climatologist
and
professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in
Huntsville,
dismissed the narrative of record high temperatures.
“Regionally, the West has seen its largest number of hot summer
records in
the past 100 years, but the Ohio Valley and Upper Midwest are >> >> >> >>>>experiencing
their fewest,” he said.
“For the conterminous U.S. as a whole, the last 10 years have produced
only
an average number of records. The 1930s are still champs.”
Climate change policies have been used to justify sweeping lifestyle
changes
across the United States by the Energy Department, like restricting home
appliances, and sometimes, even outright banning them.
In June, the Energy Department proposed rules that would require ceiling
fans
to become more energy efficient, a development that could lead to
manufacturers
having to shell out $86.6 million per year in “increased equipment
costs.”
In February, the DOE proposed energy efficiency rules targeting gas
stoves
that would affect half of all new models of such stoves sold in the
United
States while making most of the existing ones noncompliant.
In July, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission proposed a policy
that
would remove nearly all existing portable gas generators from the
market.
The Biden administration has already implemented a ban on incandescent
light
bulbs, which came into effect on Aug. 1.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guus_Berkhout
and also see some balance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_and_Climate_Intelligence_Unit
and again on the dark side this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation
and this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-61166339
is not evidence, Tony.
same. Actually, many people espousing the same opinion is evidence! >> >> >
https://sklaw.au/dictionary/opinion-evidence/
Enogh people in agreement makes it so.
This the conditional point I was presenting, requiring no further comment. IOW, it stands on its own self-evident merits.
conditional
Now you and Tony may have a different opinion, but 2 to 1 is not
conclusive - understand?
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 01:26:29 -0700 (PDT), Keith Warren
<keithdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 20:04:07 UTC+12, Tony wrote:
Keith Warren <keithdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 18:26:58 UTC+12, Tony wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 02:47:26 -0000 (UTC), TonyFunny that you would say that considering your propensity to do exactly the
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:John did not post any evidence - a list of people sharing an opinion >> >> >is not evidence, Tony.
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:56:43 -0700 (PDT), John BowesNone of which disproves John's evidence.
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:04:20?AM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John BowesHere ya go :)
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because there are
more
than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a political
stunt!
Requires an account to be set up to read.https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
--
Crash McBash
International scientists have jointly signed a declaration dismissing
the
existence of a climate crisis and insisting that carbon dioxide is >> >> >>>>beneficial
to Earth.
“There is no climate emergency,” the Global Climate Intelligence
Group
(CLINTEL) said in its World Climate Declaration (pdf), made public in
August.
“Climate science should be less political, while climate policies
should be
more scientific. Scientists should openly address uncertainties and
exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians
should
dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of
their
policy measures.”
A total of 1,609 scientists and professionals from around the world have
signed the declaration, including 321 from the United States.
"Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a period of
warming," the declaration said.
Warming is happening “far slower” than predicted by the
Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change.
“Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely plausible
as
policy tools,” the coalition said, adding that these models
"exaggerate the
effect of greenhouse gases" and "ignore the fact that enriching the
atmosphere
with CO2 is beneficial.” For instance, even though climate alarmists
characterize CO2 as environmentally-damaging, the coalition pointed out
that
the gas is “not a pollutant.”
Carbon dioxide is “essential” to all life on earth and is
“favorable” for
nature. Extra CO2 results in the growth of global plant biomass while
also
boosting the yields of crops worldwide.
CLINTEL also dismissed the narrative of global warming being linked to
increased natural disasters like hurricanes, floods, and droughts, >> >> >>>>stressing
that there is “no statistical evidence” to support these claims.
“There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for panic
and
alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2 >> >> >>>>policy
proposed for 2050. Go for adaptation instead of mitigation; adaptation
works
whatever the causes are,” it said.
“To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe what the
model
makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of today’s climate
discussion
to which climate models are central. Climate science has degenerated
into a
discussion based on beliefs, not on sound self-critical science. Should
not
we
free ourselves from the naive belief in immature climate models?”
Climate Models and Sunlight Reflection
Among the CLINTEL signatories are two Nobel laureates—physicists John
Francis
Clauser from the United States and Ivan Giaever, a Norwegian-American.
Mr. Clauser has made a significant addition to climate models to dismiss
the
narrative of global warming: the visible light reflected by cumulus
clouds
which, on average, cover half of the earth.
Current climate models vastly underestimate this aspect of cumulus cloud
reflection, which plays a key role in regulating the earth’s
temperature.
Mr.
Clauser previously told President Joe Biden that he disagreed with his
climate
policies.
In May, Mr. Clauser was elected to the board of directors at the CO2
Coalition, a group focusing on the beneficial contributions of carbon
dioxide
in the environment.
“The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous >> >> >>>>corruption
of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being of
billions of
people,” Mr. Clauser said in a May 5 statement.
“Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive
shock-journalistic
pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat for a
wide
variety of other unrelated ills.”
“It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided business
marketing
agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and
environmentalists.
In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis.”
False Doomsday Predictions, a Presidential Issue
CLINTEL’s declaration against the climate change narrative counters
propaganda spread by climate alarmists who have long predicted doomsday
scenarios triggered by global warming—none of which have ever come
true.
In 1970, some climate scientists predicted that the earth would move
into a
new ice age by the 21st century. Pollution expert James Lodge predicted
that
“air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice age in the
first
third of the new century,” according to The Boston Globe.
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration
demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, >> >> >>>>Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration
demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, >> >> >>>>Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
In May 1982, Mostafa Tolba, then-executive director of the United >> >> >>>>Nations
environmental program, said that if the world did not change course, it
would
face an “environmental catastrophe which will witness devastation as
complete,
as irreversible, as any nuclear holocaust” by 2000.
In June 2008, James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute of
Space
Sciences, said that within five to 10 years, the Arctic would have no
ice
left
in the summer.
As climate alarmists continue to spread propaganda about global warming,
the
topic has become an issue in the 2024 presidential race, with multiple
candidates openly dismissing it.
In a July 13 post on X, Democrat presidential candidate Robert F. >> >> >>>>Kennedy
Jr.
said that climate change “is being used to control us through fear.”
“Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop pollution.
Polluters
make themselves rich by making the public pay for the damage they do,"
he
said.
During the first 2024 GOP presidential debate, candidate Vivek Ramaswamy
called climate change a “hoax.”
“The reality is, the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our
economy.
And so the reality is, more people are dying of bad climate change >> >> >>>>policies
than they are of actual climate change,” he said.
High Temperatures, Biden’s Appliance Crackdown
Climate activists have insisted that global warming is responsible for
the
soaring temperatures across the United States, even claiming that >> >> >>>>temperatures
are hitting record highs.
In a recent interview with The Epoch Times, John Christy, a
climatologist
and
professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in >> >> >>>>Huntsville,
dismissed the narrative of record high temperatures.
“Regionally, the West has seen its largest number of hot summer >> >> >>>>records in
the past 100 years, but the Ohio Valley and Upper Midwest are
experiencing
their fewest,” he said.
“For the conterminous U.S. as a whole, the last 10 years have produced
only
an average number of records. The 1930s are still champs.”
Climate change policies have been used to justify sweeping lifestyle
changes
across the United States by the Energy Department, like restricting home
appliances, and sometimes, even outright banning them.
In June, the Energy Department proposed rules that would require ceiling
fans
to become more energy efficient, a development that could lead to >> >> >>>>manufacturers
having to shell out $86.6 million per year in “increased equipment
costs.”
In February, the DOE proposed energy efficiency rules targeting gas
stoves
that would affect half of all new models of such stoves sold in the
United
States while making most of the existing ones noncompliant.
In July, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission proposed a policy
that
would remove nearly all existing portable gas generators from the >> >> >>>>market.
The Biden administration has already implemented a ban on incandescent
light
bulbs, which came into effect on Aug. 1.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guus_Berkhout
and also see some balance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_and_Climate_Intelligence_Unit >> >> >>>
and again on the dark side this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation >> >> >>>and this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-61166339
same. Actually, many people espousing the same opinion is evidence!
In some circumstances, maybe.
https://sklaw.au/dictionary/opinion-evidence/
Enogh people in agreement makes it so.
This the conditional point I was presenting, requiring no further comment. IOW, it stands on its own self-evident merits.Absolutely - but Tony is a bit of a flat-earther . . .he does not do conditional...
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 01:26:29 -0700 (PDT), Keith Warren
<keithdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 20:04:07 UTC+12, Tony wrote:Absolutely - but Tony is a bit of a flat-earther . . .he does not do
Keith Warren <keithdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 18:26:58 UTC+12, Tony wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 02:47:26 -0000 (UTC), TonyFunny that you would say that considering your propensity to do
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:John did not post any evidence - a list of people sharing an opinion >> >> >> >is not evidence, Tony.
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:56:43 -0700 (PDT), John BowesNone of which disproves John's evidence.
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:04:20?AM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John BowesHere ya go :)
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because
there are
more
than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a
political
stunt!
Requires an account to be set up to read.https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
--
Crash McBash
International scientists have jointly signed a declaration
dismissing
the
existence of a climate crisis and insisting that carbon dioxide is >> >> >> >>>>beneficial
to Earth.
“There is no climate emergency,” the Global Climate
Intelligence
Group
(CLINTEL) said in its World Climate Declaration (pdf), made public >> >> >> >>>>in
August.
“Climate science should be less political, while climate
policies
should be
more scientific. Scientists should openly address uncertainties
and
exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while
politicians
should
dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined
benefits of
their
policy measures.”
A total of 1,609 scientists and professionals from around the
world have
signed the declaration, including 321 from the United States.
"Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a
period of
warming," the declaration said.
Warming is happening “far slower” than predicted by the
Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change.
“Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely
plausible
as
policy tools,” the coalition said, adding that these models
"exaggerate the
effect of greenhouse gases" and "ignore the fact that enriching
the
atmosphere
with CO2 is beneficial.” For instance, even though climate
alarmists
characterize CO2 as environmentally-damaging, the coalition
pointed out
that
the gas is “not a pollutant.”
Carbon dioxide is “essential” to all life on earth and is
“favorable” for
nature. Extra CO2 results in the growth of global plant biomass
while
also
boosting the yields of crops worldwide.
CLINTEL also dismissed the narrative of global warming being
linked to
increased natural disasters like hurricanes, floods, and droughts, >> >> >> >>>>stressing
that there is “no statistical evidence” to support these
claims.
“There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for >> >> >> >>>>panic
and
alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2 >> >> >> >>>>policy
proposed for 2050. Go for adaptation instead of mitigation;
adaptation
works
whatever the causes are,” it said.
“To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe what
the
model
makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of today’s
climate
discussion
to which climate models are central. Climate science has
degenerated
into a
discussion based on beliefs, not on sound self-critical science. >> >> >> >>>>Should
not
we
free ourselves from the naive belief in immature climate
models?”
Climate Models and Sunlight Reflection
Among the CLINTEL signatories are two Nobel laureates—physicists >> >> >> >>>>John
Francis
Clauser from the United States and Ivan Giaever, a
Norwegian-American.
Mr. Clauser has made a significant addition to climate models to >> >> >> >>>>dismiss
the
narrative of global warming: the visible light reflected by
cumulus
clouds
which, on average, cover half of the earth.
Current climate models vastly underestimate this aspect of cumulus >> >> >> >>>>cloud
reflection, which plays a key role in regulating the earth’s
temperature.
Mr.
Clauser previously told President Joe Biden that he disagreed with >> >> >> >>>>his
climate
policies.
In May, Mr. Clauser was elected to the board of directors at the >> >> >> >>>>CO2
Coalition, a group focusing on the beneficial contributions of
carbon
dioxide
in the environment.
“The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous >> >> >> >>>>corruption
of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being >> >> >> >>>>of
billions of
people,” Mr. Clauser said in a May 5 statement.
“Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive
shock-journalistic
pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat >> >> >> >>>>for a
wide
variety of other unrelated ills.”
“It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided
business
marketing
agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and
environmentalists.
In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis.”
False Doomsday Predictions, a Presidential Issue
CLINTEL’s declaration against the climate change narrative
counters
propaganda spread by climate alarmists who have long predicted
doomsday
scenarios triggered by global warming—none of which have ever
come
true.
In 1970, some climate scientists predicted that the earth would
move
into a
new ice age by the 21st century. Pollution expert James Lodge
predicted
that
“air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice age in >> >> >> >>>>the
first
third of the new century,” according to The Boston Globe.
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration
demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, >> >> >> >>>>Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration
demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney, >> >> >> >>>>Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
In May 1982, Mostafa Tolba, then-executive director of the United >> >> >> >>>>Nations
environmental program, said that if the world did not change
course, it
would
face an “environmental catastrophe which will witness
devastation as
complete,
as irreversible, as any nuclear holocaust” by 2000.
In June 2008, James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute >> >> >> >>>>of
Space
Sciences, said that within five to 10 years, the Arctic would have >> >> >> >>>>no
ice
left
in the summer.
As climate alarmists continue to spread propaganda about global
warming,
the
topic has become an issue in the 2024 presidential race, with
multiple
candidates openly dismissing it.
In a July 13 post on X, Democrat presidential candidate Robert F. >> >> >> >>>>Kennedy
Jr.
said that climate change “is being used to control us through
fear.”
“Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop
pollution.
Polluters
make themselves rich by making the public pay for the damage they >> >> >> >>>>do,"
he
said.
During the first 2024 GOP presidential debate, candidate Vivek
Ramaswamy
called climate change a “hoax.”
“The reality is, the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on
our
economy.
And so the reality is, more people are dying of bad climate change >> >> >> >>>>policies
than they are of actual climate change,” he said.
High Temperatures, Biden’s Appliance Crackdown
Climate activists have insisted that global warming is responsible >> >> >> >>>>for
the
soaring temperatures across the United States, even claiming that >> >> >> >>>>temperatures
are hitting record highs.
In a recent interview with The Epoch Times, John Christy, a
climatologist
and
professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in >> >> >> >>>>Huntsville,
dismissed the narrative of record high temperatures.
“Regionally, the West has seen its largest number of hot summer >> >> >> >>>>records in
the past 100 years, but the Ohio Valley and Upper Midwest are
experiencing
their fewest,” he said.
“For the conterminous U.S. as a whole, the last 10 years have
produced
only
an average number of records. The 1930s are still champs.”
Climate change policies have been used to justify sweeping
lifestyle
changes
across the United States by the Energy Department, like
restricting home
appliances, and sometimes, even outright banning them.
In June, the Energy Department proposed rules that would require >> >> >> >>>>ceiling
fans
to become more energy efficient, a development that could lead to >> >> >> >>>>manufacturers
having to shell out $86.6 million per year in “increased
equipment
costs.”
In February, the DOE proposed energy efficiency rules targeting
gas
stoves
that would affect half of all new models of such stoves sold in
the
United
States while making most of the existing ones noncompliant.
In July, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission proposed a
policy
that
would remove nearly all existing portable gas generators from the >> >> >> >>>>market.
The Biden administration has already implemented a ban on
incandescent
light
bulbs, which came into effect on Aug. 1.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guus_Berkhout
and also see some balance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_and_Climate_Intelligence_Unit >> >> >> >>>
and again on the dark side this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation >> >> >> >>>and this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-61166339
exactly the
same. Actually, many people espousing the same opinion is evidence!
In some circumstances, maybe.
https://sklaw.au/dictionary/opinion-evidence/
Enogh people in agreement makes it so.
This the conditional point I was presenting, requiring no further comment. >> >IOW, it stands on its own self-evident merits.
conditional...
...as is the case of those inevitably compromised by their deluded one-eyed >obsessions, poor punctuation and messy syntax.Ah, yes - an accurate self analysis if ever there was one. Well done Keith.
James Christophers <jmschri...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 9:10:27 PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 01:26:29 -0700 (PDT), Keith Warren
<keithdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 20:04:07 UTC+12, Tony wrote:Absolutely - but Tony is a bit of a flat-earther . . .he does not do
Keith Warren <keithdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 18:26:58 UTC+12, Tony wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:In some circumstances, maybe.
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 02:47:26 -0000 (UTC), TonyFunny that you would say that considering your propensity to do
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:John did not post any evidence - a list of people sharing an opinion
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:56:43 -0700 (PDT), John BowesNone of which disproves John's evidence.
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:04:20?AM UTC+12, Crash wrote: >> >> >> >>>>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:Here ya go :)
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because >> >> >> >>>>> >there are
more
than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a >> >> >> >>>>> >political
stunt!
Requires an account to be set up to read.https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
--
Crash McBash
International scientists have jointly signed a declaration
dismissing
the
existence of a climate crisis and insisting that carbon dioxide is
beneficial
to Earth.
“There is no climate emergency,” the Global Climate
Intelligence
Group
(CLINTEL) said in its World Climate Declaration (pdf), made public
in
August.
“Climate science should be less political, while climate
policies
should be
more scientific. Scientists should openly address uncertainties >> >> >> >>>>and
exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while
politicians
should
dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined
benefits of
their
policy measures.”
A total of 1,609 scientists and professionals from around the >> >> >> >>>>world have
signed the declaration, including 321 from the United States. >> >> >> >>>>
"Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a
period of
warming," the declaration said.
Warming is happening “far slower” than predicted by the
Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change.
“Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely >> >> >> >>>>plausible
as
policy tools,” the coalition said, adding that these models >> >> >> >>>>"exaggerate the
effect of greenhouse gases" and "ignore the fact that enriching >> >> >> >>>>the
atmosphere
with CO2 is beneficial.” For instance, even though climate
alarmists
characterize CO2 as environmentally-damaging, the coalition
pointed out
that
the gas is “not a pollutant.”
Carbon dioxide is “essential” to all life on earth and is >> >> >> >>>>“favorable” for
nature. Extra CO2 results in the growth of global plant biomass >> >> >> >>>>while
also
boosting the yields of crops worldwide.
CLINTEL also dismissed the narrative of global warming being
linked to
increased natural disasters like hurricanes, floods, and droughts,
stressing
that there is “no statistical evidence” to support these
claims.
“There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for
panic
and
alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2
policy
proposed for 2050. Go for adaptation instead of mitigation;
adaptation
works
whatever the causes are,” it said.
“To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe what >> >> >> >>>>the
model
makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of today’s >> >> >> >>>>climate
discussion
to which climate models are central. Climate science has
degenerated
into a
discussion based on beliefs, not on sound self-critical science.
Should
not
we
free ourselves from the naive belief in immature climate
models?”
Climate Models and Sunlight Reflection
Among the CLINTEL signatories are two Nobel laureates—physicists
John
Francis
Clauser from the United States and Ivan Giaever, a
Norwegian-American.
Mr. Clauser has made a significant addition to climate models to
dismiss
the
narrative of global warming: the visible light reflected by
cumulus
clouds
which, on average, cover half of the earth.
Current climate models vastly underestimate this aspect of cumulus
cloud
reflection, which plays a key role in regulating the earth’s >> >> >> >>>>temperature.
Mr.
Clauser previously told President Joe Biden that he disagreed with
his
climate
policies.
In May, Mr. Clauser was elected to the board of directors at the
CO2
Coalition, a group focusing on the beneficial contributions of >> >> >> >>>>carbon
dioxide
in the environment.
“The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous
corruption
of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being
of
billions of
people,” Mr. Clauser said in a May 5 statement.
“Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive
shock-journalistic
pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat
for a
wide
variety of other unrelated ills.”
“It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided
business
marketing
agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and
environmentalists.
In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis.”
False Doomsday Predictions, a Presidential Issue
CLINTEL’s declaration against the climate change narrative
counters
propaganda spread by climate alarmists who have long predicted >> >> >> >>>>doomsday
scenarios triggered by global warming—none of which have ever >> >> >> >>>>come
true.
In 1970, some climate scientists predicted that the earth would >> >> >> >>>>move
into a
new ice age by the 21st century. Pollution expert James Lodge >> >> >> >>>>predicted
that
“air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice age in
the
first
third of the new century,” according to The Boston Globe.
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration >> >> >> >>>>demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney,
Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration >> >> >> >>>>demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney,
Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
In May 1982, Mostafa Tolba, then-executive director of the United
Nations
environmental program, said that if the world did not change
course, it
would
face an “environmental catastrophe which will witness
devastation as
complete,
as irreversible, as any nuclear holocaust” by 2000.
In June 2008, James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute
of
Space
Sciences, said that within five to 10 years, the Arctic would have
no
ice
left
in the summer.
As climate alarmists continue to spread propaganda about global >> >> >> >>>>warming,
the
topic has become an issue in the 2024 presidential race, with >> >> >> >>>>multiple
candidates openly dismissing it.
In a July 13 post on X, Democrat presidential candidate Robert F.
Kennedy
Jr.
said that climate change “is being used to control us through >> >> >> >>>>fear.”
“Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop
pollution.
Polluters
make themselves rich by making the public pay for the damage they
do,"
he
said.
During the first 2024 GOP presidential debate, candidate Vivek >> >> >> >>>>Ramaswamy
called climate change a “hoax.”
“The reality is, the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on >> >> >> >>>>our
economy.
And so the reality is, more people are dying of bad climate change
policies
than they are of actual climate change,” he said.
High Temperatures, Biden’s Appliance Crackdown
Climate activists have insisted that global warming is responsible
for
the
soaring temperatures across the United States, even claiming that
temperatures
are hitting record highs.
In a recent interview with The Epoch Times, John Christy, a
climatologist
and
professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in
Huntsville,
dismissed the narrative of record high temperatures.
“Regionally, the West has seen its largest number of hot summer
records in
the past 100 years, but the Ohio Valley and Upper Midwest are >> >> >> >>>>experiencing
their fewest,” he said.
“For the conterminous U.S. as a whole, the last 10 years have >> >> >> >>>>produced
only
an average number of records. The 1930s are still champs.”
Climate change policies have been used to justify sweeping
lifestyle
changes
across the United States by the Energy Department, like
restricting home
appliances, and sometimes, even outright banning them.
In June, the Energy Department proposed rules that would require
ceiling
fans
to become more energy efficient, a development that could lead to
manufacturers
having to shell out $86.6 million per year in “increased
equipment
costs.”
In February, the DOE proposed energy efficiency rules targeting >> >> >> >>>>gas
stoves
that would affect half of all new models of such stoves sold in >> >> >> >>>>the
United
States while making most of the existing ones noncompliant.
In July, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission proposed a >> >> >> >>>>policy
that
would remove nearly all existing portable gas generators from the
market.
The Biden administration has already implemented a ban on
incandescent
light
bulbs, which came into effect on Aug. 1.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guus_Berkhout
and also see some balance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_and_Climate_Intelligence_Unit
and again on the dark side this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation
and this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-61166339
is not evidence, Tony.
exactly the
same. Actually, many people espousing the same opinion is evidence! >> >> >
https://sklaw.au/dictionary/opinion-evidence/
Enogh people in agreement makes it so.
This the conditional point I was presenting, requiring no further comment.
IOW, it stands on its own self-evident merits.
conditional...
...as is the case of those inevitably compromised by their deluded one-eyed >obsessions, poor punctuation and messy syntax.
Ah, yes - an accurate self analysis if ever there was one. Well done Keith.
On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 4:00:45 PM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
James Christophers <jmschri...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 9:10:27 PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 01:26:29 -0700 (PDT), Keith Warren
<keithdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 20:04:07 UTC+12, Tony wrote:Absolutely - but Tony is a bit of a flat-earther . . .he does not do
Keith Warren <keithdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 18:26:58 UTC+12, Tony wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 02:47:26 -0000 (UTC), TonyFunny that you would say that considering your propensity to do >> >> >>exactly the
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:John did not post any evidence - a list of people sharing an opinion
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:56:43 -0700 (PDT), John BowesNone of which disproves John's evidence.
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:04:20?AM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John BowesHere ya go :)
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because >> >> >> >>>>> >there are
more
than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a >> >> >> >>>>> >political
stunt!
Requires an account to be set up to read.https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
--
Crash McBash
International scientists have jointly signed a declaration
dismissing
the
existence of a climate crisis and insisting that carbon dioxide is
beneficial
to Earth.
“There is no climate emergency,” the Global Climate
Intelligence
Group
(CLINTEL) said in its World Climate Declaration (pdf), made public
in
August.
“Climate science should be less political, while climate
policies
should be
more scientific. Scientists should openly address uncertainties
and
exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while >> >> >> >>>>politicians
should
dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined >> >> >> >>>>benefits of
their
policy measures.”
A total of 1,609 scientists and professionals from around the >> >> >> >>>>world have
signed the declaration, including 321 from the United States. >> >> >> >>>>
"Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a >> >> >> >>>>period of
warming," the declaration said.
Warming is happening “far slower” than predicted by the >> >> >> >>>>Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change.
“Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely >> >> >> >>>>plausible
as
policy tools,” the coalition said, adding that these models >> >> >> >>>>"exaggerate the
effect of greenhouse gases" and "ignore the fact that enriching
the
atmosphere
with CO2 is beneficial.” For instance, even though climate >> >> >> >>>>alarmists
characterize CO2 as environmentally-damaging, the coalition >> >> >> >>>>pointed out
that
the gas is “not a pollutant.”
Carbon dioxide is “essential” to all life on earth and is >> >> >> >>>>“favorable” for
nature. Extra CO2 results in the growth of global plant biomass
while
also
boosting the yields of crops worldwide.
CLINTEL also dismissed the narrative of global warming being >> >> >> >>>>linked to
increased natural disasters like hurricanes, floods, and droughts,
stressing
that there is “no statistical evidence” to support these >> >> >> >>>>claims.
“There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for
panic
and
alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2
policy
proposed for 2050. Go for adaptation instead of mitigation; >> >> >> >>>>adaptation
works
whatever the causes are,” it said.
“To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe what
the
model
makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of today’s
climate
discussion
to which climate models are central. Climate science has
degenerated
into a
discussion based on beliefs, not on sound self-critical science.
Should
not
we
free ourselves from the naive belief in immature climate
models?”
Climate Models and Sunlight Reflection
Among the CLINTEL signatories are two Nobel laureates—physicists
John
Francis
Clauser from the United States and Ivan Giaever, a
Norwegian-American.
Mr. Clauser has made a significant addition to climate models to
dismiss
the
narrative of global warming: the visible light reflected by >> >> >> >>>>cumulus
clouds
which, on average, cover half of the earth.
Current climate models vastly underestimate this aspect of cumulus
cloud
reflection, which plays a key role in regulating the earth’s
temperature.
Mr.
Clauser previously told President Joe Biden that he disagreed with
his
climate
policies.
In May, Mr. Clauser was elected to the board of directors at the
CO2
Coalition, a group focusing on the beneficial contributions of
carbon
dioxide
in the environment.
“The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous
corruption
of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being
of
billions of
people,” Mr. Clauser said in a May 5 statement.
“Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive
shock-journalistic
pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat
for a
wide
variety of other unrelated ills.”
“It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided >> >> >> >>>>business
marketing
agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and
environmentalists.
In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis.”
False Doomsday Predictions, a Presidential Issue
CLINTEL’s declaration against the climate change narrative >> >> >> >>>>counters
propaganda spread by climate alarmists who have long predicted
doomsday
scenarios triggered by global warming—none of which have ever
come
true.
In 1970, some climate scientists predicted that the earth would
move
into a
new ice age by the 21st century. Pollution expert James Lodge >> >> >> >>>>predicted
that
“air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice age in
the
first
third of the new century,” according to The Boston Globe. >> >> >> >>>>
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration
demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney,
Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
Participants hold placards as they take part in a demonstration
demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in Sydney,
Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
In May 1982, Mostafa Tolba, then-executive director of the United
Nations
environmental program, said that if the world did not change >> >> >> >>>>course, it
would
face an “environmental catastrophe which will witness
devastation as
complete,
as irreversible, as any nuclear holocaust” by 2000.
In June 2008, James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute
of
Space
Sciences, said that within five to 10 years, the Arctic would have
no
ice
left
in the summer.
As climate alarmists continue to spread propaganda about global
warming,
the
topic has become an issue in the 2024 presidential race, with >> >> >> >>>>multiple
candidates openly dismissing it.
In a July 13 post on X, Democrat presidential candidate Robert F.
Kennedy
Jr.
said that climate change “is being used to control us through
fear.”
“Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop
pollution.
Polluters
make themselves rich by making the public pay for the damage they
do,"
he
said.
During the first 2024 GOP presidential debate, candidate Vivek
Ramaswamy
called climate change a “hoax.”
“The reality is, the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on
our
economy.
And so the reality is, more people are dying of bad climate change
policies
than they are of actual climate change,” he said.
High Temperatures, Biden’s Appliance Crackdown
Climate activists have insisted that global warming is responsible
for
the
soaring temperatures across the United States, even claiming that
temperatures
are hitting record highs.
In a recent interview with The Epoch Times, John Christy, a >> >> >> >>>>climatologist
and
professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in
Huntsville,
dismissed the narrative of record high temperatures.
“Regionally, the West has seen its largest number of hot summer
records in
the past 100 years, but the Ohio Valley and Upper Midwest are >> >> >> >>>>experiencing
their fewest,” he said.
“For the conterminous U.S. as a whole, the last 10 years have
produced
only
an average number of records. The 1930s are still champs.” >> >> >> >>>>
Climate change policies have been used to justify sweeping
lifestyle
changes
across the United States by the Energy Department, like
restricting home
appliances, and sometimes, even outright banning them.
In June, the Energy Department proposed rules that would require
ceiling
fans
to become more energy efficient, a development that could lead to
manufacturers
having to shell out $86.6 million per year in “increased
equipment
costs.”
In February, the DOE proposed energy efficiency rules targeting
gas
stoves
that would affect half of all new models of such stoves sold in
the
United
States while making most of the existing ones noncompliant. >> >> >> >>>>
In July, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission proposed a
policy
that
would remove nearly all existing portable gas generators from the
market.
The Biden administration has already implemented a ban on
incandescent
light
bulbs, which came into effect on Aug. 1.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guus_Berkhout
and also see some balance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_and_Climate_Intelligence_Unit
and again on the dark side this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation
and this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-61166339
is not evidence, Tony.
same. Actually, many people espousing the same opinion is evidence!
In some circumstances, maybe.
https://sklaw.au/dictionary/opinion-evidence/
Enogh people in agreement makes it so.
This the conditional point I was presenting, requiring no further comment.
IOW, it stands on its own self-evident merits.
conditional...
...as is the case of those inevitably compromised by their deluded one-eyed
obsessions, poor punctuation and messy syntax.
Ah, yes - an accurate self analysis if ever there was one.
I spend my life doing useful things. You seem to be keen on failing to put others down - what a wasted life you have had.James Christophers <jmschri...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 9:10:27 PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 01:26:29 -0700 (PDT), Keith Warren
<keithdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 20:04:07 UTC+12, Tony wrote:Absolutely - but Tony is a bit of a flat-earther . . .he does not do
Keith Warren <keithdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 18:26:58 UTC+12, Tony wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 02:47:26 -0000 (UTC), TonyFunny that you would say that considering your propensity to do >> > >> >> >>exactly the
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:56:43 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:04:20?AM UTC+12, Crash
wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT), John BowesHere ya go :)
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Was it 1,100 scientists called for climate action? Because >> > >> >> >> >>>>> >there are
more
than that declaring the so called climate crisis is just a >> > >> >> >> >>>>> >political
stunt!
Requires an account to be set up to read.https://www.theepochtimes.com/science/over-1600-scientists-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration-5482554
--
Crash McBash
International scientists have jointly signed a declaration
dismissing
the
existence of a climate crisis and insisting that carbon
dioxide is
beneficial
to Earth.
“There is no climate emergency,” the Global Climate
Intelligence
Group
(CLINTEL) said in its World Climate Declaration (pdf), made >> > >> >> >> >>>>public
in
August.
“Climate science should be less political, while climate
policies
should be
more scientific. Scientists should openly address
uncertainties
and
exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while >> > >> >> >> >>>>politicians
should
dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined >> > >> >> >> >>>>benefits of
their
policy measures.”
A total of 1,609 scientists and professionals from around the >> > >> >> >> >>>>world have
signed the declaration, including 321 from the United States. >> > >> >> >> >>>>
"Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a >> > >> >> >> >>>>period of
warming," the declaration said.
Warming is happening “far slower” than predicted by the >> > >> >> >> >>>>Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change.
“Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely >> > >> >> >> >>>>plausible
as
policy tools,” the coalition said, adding that these models >> > >> >> >> >>>>"exaggerate the
effect of greenhouse gases" and "ignore the fact that
enriching
the
atmosphere
with CO2 is beneficial.” For instance, even though climate >> > >> >> >> >>>>alarmists
characterize CO2 as environmentally-damaging, the coalition >> > >> >> >> >>>>pointed out
that
the gas is “not a pollutant.”
Carbon dioxide is “essential” to all life on earth and is >> > >> >> >> >>>>“favorable” for
nature. Extra CO2 results in the growth of global plant
biomass
while
also
boosting the yields of crops worldwide.
CLINTEL also dismissed the narrative of global warming being >> > >> >> >> >>>>linked to
increased natural disasters like hurricanes, floods, and
droughts,
stressing
that there is “no statistical evidence” to support these >> > >> >> >> >>>>claims.
“There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no
cause for
panic
and
alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic
net-zero CO2
policy
proposed for 2050. Go for adaptation instead of mitigation; >> > >> >> >> >>>>adaptation
works
whatever the causes are,” it said.
“To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe
what
the
model
makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of
today’s
climate
discussion
to which climate models are central. Climate science has
degenerated
into a
discussion based on beliefs, not on sound self-critical
science.
Should
not
we
free ourselves from the naive belief in immature climate
models?”
Climate Models and Sunlight Reflection
Among the CLINTEL signatories are two Nobel
laureates—physicists
John
Francis
Clauser from the United States and Ivan Giaever, a
Norwegian-American.
Mr. Clauser has made a significant addition to climate models >> > >> >> >> >>>>to
dismiss
the
narrative of global warming: the visible light reflected by >> > >> >> >> >>>>cumulus
clouds
which, on average, cover half of the earth.
Current climate models vastly underestimate this aspect of
cumulus
cloud
reflection, which plays a key role in regulating the
earth’s
temperature.
Mr.
Clauser previously told President Joe Biden that he disagreed >> > >> >> >> >>>>with
his
climate
policies.
In May, Mr. Clauser was elected to the board of directors at >> > >> >> >> >>>>the
CO2
Coalition, a group focusing on the beneficial contributions >> > >> >> >> >>>>of
carbon
dioxide
in the environment.
“The popular narrative about climate change reflects a
dangerous
corruption
of science that threatens the world’s economy and the
well-being
of
billions of
people,” Mr. Clauser said in a May 5 statement.
“Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive
shock-journalistic
pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a
scapegoat
for a
wide
variety of other unrelated ills.”
“It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided >> > >> >> >> >>>>business
marketing
agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and
environmentalists.
In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis.”
False Doomsday Predictions, a Presidential Issue
CLINTEL’s declaration against the climate change narrative >> > >> >> >> >>>>counters
propaganda spread by climate alarmists who have long
predicted
doomsday
scenarios triggered by global warming—none of which have
ever
come
true.
In 1970, some climate scientists predicted that the earth
would
move
into a
new ice age by the 21st century. Pollution expert James Lodge >> > >> >> >> >>>>predicted
that
“air pollution may obliterate the sun and cause a new ice >> > >> >> >> >>>>age in
the
first
third of the new century,” according to The Boston Globe. >> > >> >> >> >>>>
Participants hold placards as they take part in a
demonstration
demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in
Sydney,
Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
Participants hold placards as they take part in a
demonstration
demanding
the
government take immediate action against climate change in
Sydney,
Australia,
on Jan. 10, 2020. (Mohammed Farooq/AFP via Getty Images)
In May 1982, Mostafa Tolba, then-executive director of the
United
Nations
environmental program, said that if the world did not change >> > >> >> >> >>>>course, it
would
face an “environmental catastrophe which will witness
devastation as
complete,
as irreversible, as any nuclear holocaust” by 2000.
In June 2008, James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard
Institute
of
Space
Sciences, said that within five to 10 years, the Arctic would >> > >> >> >> >>>>have
no
ice
left
in the summer.
As climate alarmists continue to spread propaganda about
global
warming,
the
topic has become an issue in the 2024 presidential race, with >> > >> >> >> >>>>multiple
candidates openly dismissing it.
In a July 13 post on X, Democrat presidential candidate
Robert F.
Kennedy
Jr.
said that climate change “is being used to control us
through
fear.”
“Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop
pollution.
Polluters
make themselves rich by making the public pay for the damage >> > >> >> >> >>>>they
do,"
he
said.
During the first 2024 GOP presidential debate, candidate
Vivek
Ramaswamy
called climate change a “hoax.”
“The reality is, the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket >> > >> >> >> >>>>on
our
economy.
And so the reality is, more people are dying of bad climate >> > >> >> >> >>>>change
policies
than they are of actual climate change,” he said.
High Temperatures, Biden’s Appliance Crackdown
Climate activists have insisted that global warming is
responsible
for
the
soaring temperatures across the United States, even claiming >> > >> >> >> >>>>that
temperatures
are hitting record highs.
In a recent interview with The Epoch Times, John Christy, a >> > >> >> >> >>>>climatologist
and
professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama >> > >> >> >> >>>>in
Huntsville,
dismissed the narrative of record high temperatures.
“Regionally, the West has seen its largest number of hot
summer
records in
the past 100 years, but the Ohio Valley and Upper Midwest are >> > >> >> >> >>>>experiencing
their fewest,” he said.
“For the conterminous U.S. as a whole, the last 10 years
have
produced
only
an average number of records. The 1930s are still champs.” >> > >> >> >> >>>>
Climate change policies have been used to justify sweeping
lifestyle
changes
across the United States by the Energy Department, like
restricting home
appliances, and sometimes, even outright banning them.
In June, the Energy Department proposed rules that would
require
ceiling
fans
to become more energy efficient, a development that could
lead to
manufacturers
having to shell out $86.6 million per year in “increased
equipment
costs.”
In February, the DOE proposed energy efficiency rules
targeting
gas
stoves
that would affect half of all new models of such stoves sold >> > >> >> >> >>>>in
the
United
States while making most of the existing ones noncompliant. >> > >> >> >> >>>>
In July, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission proposed >> > >> >> >> >>>>a
policy
that
would remove nearly all existing portable gas generators from >> > >> >> >> >>>>the
market.
The Biden administration has already implemented a ban on
incandescent
light
bulbs, which came into effect on Aug. 1.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guus_Berkhout
and also see some balance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_and_Climate_Intelligence_Unit
and again on the dark side this:
John did not post any evidence - a list of people sharing anNone of which disproves John's evidence.and this:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-61166339
opinion
is not evidence, Tony.
same. Actually, many people espousing the same opinion is
evidence!
In some circumstances, maybe.
https://sklaw.au/dictionary/opinion-evidence/
Enogh people in agreement makes it so.
This the conditional point I was presenting, requiring no further
comment.
IOW, it stands on its own self-evident merits.
conditional...
...as is the case of those inevitably compromised by their deluded
one-eyed
obsessions, poor punctuation and messy syntax.
Ah, yes - an accurate self analysis if ever there was one.
Do something really useful just for once and get down to learning the >appropriate use of the subjunctive.
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