In the vain hope Rich just might learn something it's bloody obvious he hasn't >yet:)That article is brilliant. There is no deceit, no hint of racism and shows an understanding of the real treaty.
https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/don-brash-a-pathetic-attempt-to-justify-co-governance
John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
In the vain hope Rich just might learn something it's bloody obvious he hasn't
yet:)
https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/don-brash-a-pathetic-attempt-to-justify-co-governanceThat article is brilliant. There is no deceit, no hint of racism and shows an
understanding of the real treaty.
Let's vote Labour out!
In the vain hope Rich just might learn something it's bloody obvious he hasn't yet:)
https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/don-brash-a-pathetic-attempt-to-justify-co-governance
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 21:51:09 -0700 (PDT), John BowesActually he does not - so you will no doubt show in detail what he has misrepresented, won't you? Or is it just an opinion? Eh rIch?
<bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
In the vain hope Rich just might learn something it's bloody obvious he >>hasn't yet:)
https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/don-brash-a-pathetic-attempt-to-justify-co-governance
As Brash consistently misrepresents the provisions of the Treaty of
Waitangi, it is not surprising that you see it as pathetic.Oh what a silly thing to post. Desperation personified.
Apparently Brash has also been getting help from Jordan Williams (of
Taxpayer Union fame) in a website to expound his views - they are
quietly ignored where possible by National, but if pushed National do
go as far as saying that National do not share all of the views
expressed by Don Brash.
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 21:51:09 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
In the vain hope Rich just might learn something it's bloody obvious he hasn't yet:)
https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/don-brash-a-pathetic-attempt-to-justify-co-governance
As Brash consistently misrepresents the provisions of the Treaty of
Waitangi, it is not surprising that you see it as pathetic.
Apparently Brash has also been getting help from Jordan Williams (of
Taxpayer Union fame) in a website to expound his views - they are
quietly ignored where possible by National, but if pushed National do
go as far as saying that National do not share all of the views
expressed by Don Brash.
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 21:51:09 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
In the vain hope Rich just might learn something it's bloody obvious he >>hasn't yet:)
https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/don-brash-a-pathetic-attempt-to-justify-co-governance
As Brash consistently misrepresents the provisions of the Treaty ofActually he does not - so you will no doubt show in detail what he has misrepresented, won't you? Or is it just an opinion? Eh rIch?
Waitangi, it is not surprising that you see it as pathetic.
Apparently Brash has also been getting help from Jordan Williams (of >Taxpayer Union fame) in a website to expound his views - they areOh what a silly thing to post. Desperation personified.
quietly ignored where possible by National, but if pushed National do
go as far as saying that National do not share all of the views
expressed by Don Brash.
On 2023-09-01, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 21:51:09 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
In the vain hope Rich just might learn something it's bloody obvious he hasn't yet:)
https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/don-brash-a-pathetic-attempt-to-justify-co-governance
As Brash consistently misrepresents the provisions of the Treaty of Waitangi, it is not surprising that you see it as pathetic.
Apparently Brash has also been getting help from Jordan Williams (of Taxpayer Union fame) in a website to expound his views - they areOnce again we are back to playing the person, not the ideas expressed.
quietly ignored where possible by National, but if pushed National do
go as far as saying that National do not share all of the views
expressed by Don Brash.
The Treaty is rather like a piece of elastic, people will find it to be all different lengths on the assumption(s) of how hard it is pulled.
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 21:51:09 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
In the vain hope Rich just might learn something it's bloody obvious he hasn't yet:)
https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/don-brash-a-pathetic-attempt-to-justify-co-governanceAs Brash consistently misrepresents the provisions of the Treaty of Waitangi, it is not surprising that you see it as pathetic.
Apparently Brash has also been getting help from Jordan Williams (of Taxpayer Union fame) in a website to expound his views - they are
quietly ignored where possible by National, but if pushed National do
go as far as saying that National do not share all of the views
expressed by Don Brash.
On 2023-09-01, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 21:51:09 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
In the vain hope Rich just might learn something it's bloody obvious he hasn't yet:)
https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/don-brash-a-pathetic-attempt-to-justify-co-governance
As Brash consistently misrepresents the provisions of the Treaty of
Waitangi, it is not surprising that you see it as pathetic.
Apparently Brash has also been getting help from Jordan Williams (of
Taxpayer Union fame) in a website to expound his views - they are
quietly ignored where possible by National, but if pushed National do
go as far as saying that National do not share all of the views
expressed by Don Brash.
Once again we are back to playing the person, not the ideas expressed.
The Treaty is rather like a piece of elastic, people will find it to be all >different lengths on the assumption(s) of how hard it is pulled.
On 1 Sep 2023 03:45:32 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Might be a current interpretation. However it goes against everything the Treaty stands for. but then I supose as Labour's behind it it's okay with the lying and stupid Rich! You Rich are the one who got it wrong and as usual you're incapable of
On 2023-09-01, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 21:51:09 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
In the vain hope Rich just might learn something it's bloody obvious he hasn't yet:)
https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/don-brash-a-pathetic-attempt-to-justify-co-governance
As Brash consistently misrepresents the provisions of the Treaty of
Waitangi, it is not surprising that you see it as pathetic.
Apparently Brash has also been getting help from Jordan Williams (of
Taxpayer Union fame) in a website to expound his views - they are
quietly ignored where possible by National, but if pushed National do
go as far as saying that National do not share all of the views
expressed by Don Brash.
Once again we are back to playing the person, not the ideas expressed.
The Treaty is rather like a piece of elastic, people will find it to be all >different lengths on the assumption(s) of how hard it is pulled.Years of Waitangi Tribunal deliberations have led to quite a good understanding of the current interpretation of the Treaty into current English language. Brash got it wrong. It is easy to find more
authoritative explanations of the rights granted expressed in modern
terms.
On 1 Sep 2023 03:45:32 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Brash has it spot on. You have it wrong. The original text is the only correct version.,
On 2023-09-01, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 21:51:09 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
In the vain hope Rich just might learn something it's bloody obvious he >>>>hasn't yet:)
https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/don-brash-a-pathetic-attempt-to-justify-co-governance
As Brash consistently misrepresents the provisions of the Treaty of
Waitangi, it is not surprising that you see it as pathetic.
Apparently Brash has also been getting help from Jordan Williams (of
Taxpayer Union fame) in a website to expound his views - they are
quietly ignored where possible by National, but if pushed National do
go as far as saying that National do not share all of the views
expressed by Don Brash.
Once again we are back to playing the person, not the ideas expressed.
The Treaty is rather like a piece of elastic, people will find it to be all >>different lengths on the assumption(s) of how hard it is pulled.
Years of Waitangi Tribunal deliberations have led to quite a good >understanding of the current interpretation of the Treaty into current >English language. Brash got it wrong. It is easy to find more
authoritative explanations of the rights granted expressed in modern
terms.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1 Sep 2023 03:45:32 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Brash has it spot on. You have it wrong. The original text is the only correct >version.,
On 2023-09-01, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 21:51:09 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
In the vain hope Rich just might learn something it's bloody obvious he >>>>>hasn't yet:)
https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/don-brash-a-pathetic-attempt-to-justify-co-governance
As Brash consistently misrepresents the provisions of the Treaty of
Waitangi, it is not surprising that you see it as pathetic.
Apparently Brash has also been getting help from Jordan Williams (of
Taxpayer Union fame) in a website to expound his views - they are
quietly ignored where possible by National, but if pushed National do
go as far as saying that National do not share all of the views
expressed by Don Brash.
Once again we are back to playing the person, not the ideas expressed.
The Treaty is rather like a piece of elastic, people will find it to be all >>>different lengths on the assumption(s) of how hard it is pulled.
Years of Waitangi Tribunal deliberations have led to quite a good >>understanding of the current interpretation of the Treaty into current >>English language. Brash got it wrong. It is easy to find more
authoritative explanations of the rights granted expressed in modern
terms.
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 06:59:35 -0000 (UTC), TonyUtter garbage like all your cites Rich! Try stretching your knowledge to meet the real world!
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:There are a number of sites that provide good commentary about the
On 1 Sep 2023 03:45:32 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Brash has it spot on. You have it wrong. The original text is the only correct
On 2023-09-01, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 21:51:09 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>>><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
In the vain hope Rich just might learn something it's bloody obvious he >>>>>hasn't yet:)
https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/don-brash-a-pathetic-attempt-to-justify-co-governance
As Brash consistently misrepresents the provisions of the Treaty of >>>> Waitangi, it is not surprising that you see it as pathetic.
Apparently Brash has also been getting help from Jordan Williams (of >>>> Taxpayer Union fame) in a website to expound his views - they are
quietly ignored where possible by National, but if pushed National do >>>> go as far as saying that National do not share all of the views
expressed by Don Brash.
Once again we are back to playing the person, not the ideas expressed. >>>
The Treaty is rather like a piece of elastic, people will find it to be all
different lengths on the assumption(s) of how hard it is pulled.
Years of Waitangi Tribunal deliberations have led to quite a good >>understanding of the current interpretation of the Treaty into current >>English language. Brash got it wrong. It is easy to find more >>authoritative explanations of the rights granted expressed in modern >>terms.
version.,
Treaty - try this one to start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principles_of_the_Treaty_of_Waitangi
Important for current purposes is the Rangatiratanga Principle - the Principle of Self-Management.
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 06:59:35 -0000 (UTC), TonyThe only treaty that matters is the original one with its original text. All others especially the 1980 and later interpretations are false and politically manipulated.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1 Sep 2023 03:45:32 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Brash has it spot on. You have it wrong. The original text is the only >>correct
On 2023-09-01, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 21:51:09 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
In the vain hope Rich just might learn something it's bloody obvious he >>>>>>hasn't yet:)
https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/don-brash-a-pathetic-attempt-to-justify-co-governance
As Brash consistently misrepresents the provisions of the Treaty of
Waitangi, it is not surprising that you see it as pathetic.
Apparently Brash has also been getting help from Jordan Williams (of >>>>> Taxpayer Union fame) in a website to expound his views - they are
quietly ignored where possible by National, but if pushed National do >>>>> go as far as saying that National do not share all of the views
expressed by Don Brash.
Once again we are back to playing the person, not the ideas expressed.
The Treaty is rather like a piece of elastic, people will find it to be all >>>>different lengths on the assumption(s) of how hard it is pulled.
Years of Waitangi Tribunal deliberations have led to quite a good >>>understanding of the current interpretation of the Treaty into current >>>English language. Brash got it wrong. It is easy to find more >>>authoritative explanations of the rights granted expressed in modern >>>terms.
version.,
There are a number of sites that provide good commentary about the
Treaty - try this one to start: >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principles_of_the_Treaty_of_Waitangi
Important for current purposes is the Rangatiratanga Principle - the >Principle of Self-Management.
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Funny how in another thread Rich is lying about how sacrosanct a contract/treaty is. Yet when it comes to NZ's founding document he's happy to see it trashed in favour of a bullshit translation. Pretty typical of feral liars like Rich!
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 06:59:35 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1 Sep 2023 03:45:32 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Brash has it spot on. You have it wrong. The original text is the only >>correct
On 2023-09-01, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 21:51:09 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>>>><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
In the vain hope Rich just might learn something it's bloody obvious he
hasn't yet:)
https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/don-brash-a-pathetic-attempt-to-justify-co-governance
As Brash consistently misrepresents the provisions of the Treaty of >>>>> Waitangi, it is not surprising that you see it as pathetic.
Apparently Brash has also been getting help from Jordan Williams (of >>>>> Taxpayer Union fame) in a website to expound his views - they are >>>>> quietly ignored where possible by National, but if pushed National do >>>>> go as far as saying that National do not share all of the views
expressed by Don Brash.
Once again we are back to playing the person, not the ideas expressed. >>>>
The Treaty is rather like a piece of elastic, people will find it to be all
different lengths on the assumption(s) of how hard it is pulled.
Years of Waitangi Tribunal deliberations have led to quite a good >>>understanding of the current interpretation of the Treaty into current >>>English language. Brash got it wrong. It is easy to find more >>>authoritative explanations of the rights granted expressed in modern >>>terms.
version.,
There are a number of sites that provide good commentary about the
Treaty - try this one to start: >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principles_of_the_Treaty_of_Waitangi
Important for current purposes is the Rangatiratanga Principle - the >Principle of Self-Management.The only treaty that matters is the original one with its original text. All others especially the 1980 and later interpretations are false and politically
manipulated.
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