PM Chris Hipkins is desperate to do whatever it takes to beIt will require accounting packages for many retailers - the rules
re-elected. Removing GST on 'fresh fruit and vegetables' in the
belief it will reduce the retail price of said products, against
previous and still credible advice that this would either be
non-existent or minimal. He also cannot answer the accusations that
GST compliance issues become impossible to enforce for those
businesses that sell said products, because of it.
There has been a 'policy bonfire' since Hipkins became the PM after
Jacinda Ardern resigned. There is a policy he cannot address, because
it has been enacted - the various acts that together form the water
reforms legislation. You can call that '3-waters' or 'affordable
water' but as the new PM he could never repeal laws that were enacted
under the leadership of his predecessor in the current Parliamentary
term.
PM Hipkins is saddled with such toxic legislation. If nothing else weHe Pua Pua was never policy - that is a misrepresentation of a
should ensure the next government is led by National or (scarcely
credible) ACT. Even NZF support this - a rare show of lucidity born
not by logic but naked hostility at the history of the He Pupua report
while Labour and NZF were in a coalition government.
Labour brought this on themselves. They deserve to be treated
accordingly at the ballot box in the upcoming election.
I am 73 now and have never made comments such as this about any
political party at any time, let alone just prior to a general
election. There will still be a few more general elections in my
lifetime and it is my sincere hope that no political party will earn
such bile from me. Labour will need to change substantially to avoid
a repeats of this.
On Tue, 29 Aug 2023 21:07:35 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>There were no such agreements. They were co-management agreemenst and there was no attack on democracy.
wrote:
PM Chris Hipkins is desperate to do whatever it takes to beIt will require accounting packages for many retailers - the rules
re-elected. Removing GST on 'fresh fruit and vegetables' in the
belief it will reduce the retail price of said products, against
previous and still credible advice that this would either be
non-existent or minimal. He also cannot answer the accusations that
GST compliance issues become impossible to enforce for those
businesses that sell said products, because of it.
will largely follow those well tested in Australia, albeit with
different products affected. There will be some initial expenses
however, and they will be played up . . .
There has been a 'policy bonfire' since Hipkins became the PM after
Jacinda Ardern resigned. There is a policy he cannot address, because
it has been enacted - the various acts that together form the water
reforms legislation. You can call that '3-waters' or 'affordable
water' but as the new PM he could never repeal laws that were enacted
under the leadership of his predecessor in the current Parliamentary
term.
Those policies are merely a repeat of the co-governance arrangements
started under John Key
- strange they did not get virulent oppositionBecause they didn't attack our democracy unlike water management provisions now in train.
then . . .
He Puapua was a secrtet kept from Peters and his party - that is why he, quite rightly, despises this government.He Pua Pua was never policy - that is a misrepresentation of a
PM Hipkins is saddled with such toxic legislation. If nothing else we >>should ensure the next government is led by National or (scarcely
credible) ACT. Even NZF support this - a rare show of lucidity born
not by logic but naked hostility at the history of the He Pupua report >>while Labour and NZF were in a coalition government.
discussion document which was always intended to represent one line of >thinking.
Labour brought this on themselves. They deserve to be treated
accordingly at the ballot box in the upcoming election.
I am 73 now and have never made comments such as this about any
political party at any time, let alone just prior to a general
election. There will still be a few more general elections in my
lifetime and it is my sincere hope that no political party will earn
such bile from me. Labour will need to change substantially to avoid
a repeats of this.
PM Chris Hipkins is desperate to do whatever it takes to be
re-elected. Removing GST on 'fresh fruit and vegetables' in the
belief it will reduce the retail price of said products, against
previous and still credible advice that this would either be
non-existent or minimal. He also cannot answer the accusations that
GST compliance issues become impossible to enforce for those
businesses that sell said products, because of it.
There has been a 'policy bonfire' since Hipkins became the PM after
Jacinda Ardern resigned. There is a policy he cannot address, because
it has been enacted - the various acts that together form the water
reforms legislation. You can call that '3-waters' or 'affordable
water' but as the new PM he could never repeal laws that were enacted
under the leadership of his predecessor in the current Parliamentary
term.
PM Hipkins is saddled with such toxic legislation. If nothing else we
should ensure the next government is led by National or (scarcely
credible) ACT. Even NZF support this - a rare show of lucidity born
not by logic but naked hostility at the history of the He Pupua report
while Labour and NZF were in a coalition government.
Labour brought this on themselves. They deserve to be treated
accordingly at the ballot box in the upcoming election.
I am 73 now and have never made comments such as this about any
political party at any time, let alone just prior to a general
election. There will still be a few more general elections in my
lifetime and it is my sincere hope that no political party will earn
such bile from me. Labour will need to change substantially to avoid
a repeats of this.
--Well said Crash. I also have never supported any party but now I feel that the time might have arrived.
Crash McBash
PM Chris Hipkins is desperate to do whatever it takes to be
re-elected.
belief it will reduce the retail price of said products, against
previous and still credible advice that this would either be
non-existent or minimal. He also cannot answer the accusations that
GST compliance issues become impossible to enforce for those
businesses that sell said products, because of it.
There has been a 'policy bonfire' since Hipkins became the PM after
Jacinda Ardern resigned. There is a policy he cannot address, because
it has been enacted - the various acts that together form the water
reforms legislation. You can call that '3-waters' or 'affordable
water' but as the new PM he could never repeal laws that were enacted
under the leadership of his predecessor in the current Parliamentary
term.
PM Hipkins is saddled with such toxic legislation. If nothing else we
should ensure the next government is led by National or (scarcely
credible) ACT. Even NZF support this - a rare show of lucidity born
not by logic but naked hostility at the history of the He Pupua report
while Labour and NZF were in a coalition government.
Labour brought this on themselves. They deserve to be treated
accordingly at the ballot box in the upcoming election.
I am 73 now and have never made comments such as this about any
political party at any time, let alone just prior to a general
election. There will still be a few more general elections in my
lifetime and it is my sincere hope that no political party will earn
such bile from me. Labour will need to change substantially to avoid
a repeats of this.
On 2023-08-29, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:Not really Gordon. Certainly there have been some hopeful candidates in the past who have played dirty but not that often has it been the leader of the government or main opposition parties.
PM Chris Hipkins is desperate to do whatever it takes to be
re-elected.
To be fair, I think this applies to every sitting PM at an election. It used >to be called a lolly scrable.
Sure, things have progressed since thing. More signs of desperation, while >offering no long term plans.
Removing GST on 'fresh fruit and vegetables' in the
belief it will reduce the retail price of said products, against
previous and still credible advice that this would either be
non-existent or minimal. He also cannot answer the accusations that
GST compliance issues become impossible to enforce for those
businesses that sell said products, because of it.
There has been a 'policy bonfire' since Hipkins became the PM after
Jacinda Ardern resigned. There is a policy he cannot address, because
it has been enacted - the various acts that together form the water
reforms legislation. You can call that '3-waters' or 'affordable
water' but as the new PM he could never repeal laws that were enacted
under the leadership of his predecessor in the current Parliamentary
term.
PM Hipkins is saddled with such toxic legislation. If nothing else we
should ensure the next government is led by National or (scarcely
credible) ACT. Even NZF support this - a rare show of lucidity born
not by logic but naked hostility at the history of the He Pupua report
while Labour and NZF were in a coalition government.
Labour brought this on themselves. They deserve to be treated
accordingly at the ballot box in the upcoming election.
I am 73 now and have never made comments such as this about any
political party at any time, let alone just prior to a general
election. There will still be a few more general elections in my
lifetime and it is my sincere hope that no political party will earn
such bile from me. Labour will need to change substantially to avoid
a repeats of this.
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
PM Chris Hipkins is desperate to do whatever it takes to beWell said Crash. I also have never supported any party but now I feel that the >time might have arrived.
re-elected. Removing GST on 'fresh fruit and vegetables' in the
belief it will reduce the retail price of said products, against
previous and still credible advice that this would either be
non-existent or minimal. He also cannot answer the accusations that
GST compliance issues become impossible to enforce for those
businesses that sell said products, because of it.
There has been a 'policy bonfire' since Hipkins became the PM after
Jacinda Ardern resigned. There is a policy he cannot address, because
it has been enacted - the various acts that together form the water
reforms legislation. You can call that '3-waters' or 'affordable
water' but as the new PM he could never repeal laws that were enacted
under the leadership of his predecessor in the current Parliamentary
term.
PM Hipkins is saddled with such toxic legislation. If nothing else we >>should ensure the next government is led by National or (scarcely
credible) ACT. Even NZF support this - a rare show of lucidity born
not by logic but naked hostility at the history of the He Pupua report >>while Labour and NZF were in a coalition government.
Labour brought this on themselves. They deserve to be treated
accordingly at the ballot box in the upcoming election.
I am 73 now and have never made comments such as this about any
political party at any time, let alone just prior to a general
election. There will still be a few more general elections in my
lifetime and it is my sincere hope that no political party will earn
such bile from me. Labour will need to change substantially to avoid
a repeats of this.
--
Crash McBash
On 2023-08-29, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
PM Chris Hipkins is desperate to do whatever it takes to be
re-elected.
To be fair, I think this applies to every sitting PM at an election. It used >to be called a lolly scrable.
Sure, things have progressed since thing. More signs of desperation, while >offering no long term plans.
Removing GST on 'fresh fruit and vegetables' in the
belief it will reduce the retail price of said products, against
previous and still credible advice that this would either be
non-existent or minimal. He also cannot answer the accusations that
GST compliance issues become impossible to enforce for those
businesses that sell said products, because of it.
There has been a 'policy bonfire' since Hipkins became the PM after
Jacinda Ardern resigned. There is a policy he cannot address, because
it has been enacted - the various acts that together form the water
reforms legislation. You can call that '3-waters' or 'affordable
water' but as the new PM he could never repeal laws that were enacted
under the leadership of his predecessor in the current Parliamentary
term.
PM Hipkins is saddled with such toxic legislation. If nothing else we
should ensure the next government is led by National or (scarcely
credible) ACT. Even NZF support this - a rare show of lucidity born
not by logic but naked hostility at the history of the He Pupua report
while Labour and NZF were in a coalition government.
Labour brought this on themselves. They deserve to be treated
accordingly at the ballot box in the upcoming election.
I am 73 now and have never made comments such as this about any
political party at any time, let alone just prior to a general
election. There will still be a few more general elections in my
lifetime and it is my sincere hope that no political party will earn
such bile from me. Labour will need to change substantially to avoid
a repeats of this.
On Tue, 29 Aug 2023 21:07:35 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
PM Chris Hipkins is desperate to do whatever it takes to beIt will require accounting packages for many retailers - the rules
re-elected. Removing GST on 'fresh fruit and vegetables' in the
belief it will reduce the retail price of said products, against
previous and still credible advice that this would either be
non-existent or minimal. He also cannot answer the accusations that
GST compliance issues become impossible to enforce for those
businesses that sell said products, because of it.
will largely follow those well tested in Australia, albeit with
different products affected. There will be some initial expenses
however, and they will be played up . . .
There has been a 'policy bonfire' since Hipkins became the PM after
Jacinda Ardern resigned. There is a policy he cannot address, because
it has been enacted - the various acts that together form the water
reforms legislation. You can call that '3-waters' or 'affordable
water' but as the new PM he could never repeal laws that were enacted
under the leadership of his predecessor in the current Parliamentary
term.
Those policies are merely a repeat of the co-governance arrangements
started under John Key - strange they did not get virulent opposition
then . . .
He Pua Pua was never policy - that is a misrepresentation of a
PM Hipkins is saddled with such toxic legislation. If nothing else we >>should ensure the next government is led by National or (scarcely
credible) ACT. Even NZF support this - a rare show of lucidity born
not by logic but naked hostility at the history of the He Pupua report >>while Labour and NZF were in a coalition government.
discussion document which was always intended to represent one line of >thinking.
Labour brought this on themselves. They deserve to be treated
accordingly at the ballot box in the upcoming election.
I am 73 now and have never made comments such as this about any
political party at any time, let alone just prior to a general
election. There will still be a few more general elections in my
lifetime and it is my sincere hope that no political party will earn
such bile from me. Labour will need to change substantially to avoid
a repeats of this.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Aug 2023 21:07:35 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:There were no such agreements. They were co-management agreemenst and there was
PM Chris Hipkins is desperate to do whatever it takes to beIt will require accounting packages for many retailers - the rules
re-elected. Removing GST on 'fresh fruit and vegetables' in the
belief it will reduce the retail price of said products, against
previous and still credible advice that this would either be
non-existent or minimal. He also cannot answer the accusations that
GST compliance issues become impossible to enforce for those
businesses that sell said products, because of it.
will largely follow those well tested in Australia, albeit with
different products affected. There will be some initial expenses
however, and they will be played up . . .
There has been a 'policy bonfire' since Hipkins became the PM after >>>Jacinda Ardern resigned. There is a policy he cannot address, because
it has been enacted - the various acts that together form the water >>>reforms legislation. You can call that '3-waters' or 'affordable
water' but as the new PM he could never repeal laws that were enacted >>>under the leadership of his predecessor in the current Parliamentary >>>term.
Those policies are merely a repeat of the co-governance arrangements >>started under John Key
no attack on democracy.
- strange they did not get virulent oppositionBecause they didn't attack our democracy unlike water management provisions now
then . . .
in train.
He Puapua was a secrtet kept from Peters and his party - that is why he, quite >rightly, despises this government.
He Pua Pua was never policy - that is a misrepresentation of a
PM Hipkins is saddled with such toxic legislation. If nothing else we >>>should ensure the next government is led by National or (scarcely >>>credible) ACT. Even NZF support this - a rare show of lucidity born
not by logic but naked hostility at the history of the He Pupua report >>>while Labour and NZF were in a coalition government.
discussion document which was always intended to represent one line of >>thinking.
Npbody has said He Puapua was policy but that does not mean that it is not >racist and downright evil. The very fact that it was written is racist.
Labour brought this on themselves. They deserve to be treated >>>accordingly at the ballot box in the upcoming election.
I am 73 now and have never made comments such as this about any
political party at any time, let alone just prior to a general
election. There will still be a few more general elections in my >>>lifetime and it is my sincere hope that no political party will earn
such bile from me. Labour will need to change substantially to avoid
a repeats of this.
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