• For those following EVs

    From Gordon@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 19 04:49:46 2023
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/300949702/ev-car-owner-wins-dispute-after-it-stops-suddenly-twice-on-transmission-gully

    Now that the hype has started to fade we are entering the novelity of
    reading about owners experiene with them

    This article has some interesting facts in it. Cost of battery and why one
    cell just throws the system into "limp mode". Also the part issue, 10
    months to get a part from Japan.

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to Gordon on Sun Aug 20 11:57:50 2023
    On 19 Aug 2023 04:49:46 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/300949702/ev-car-owner-wins-dispute-after-it-stops-suddenly-twice-on-transmission-gully

    Now that the hype has started to fade we are entering the novelity of
    reading about owners experiene with them

    This article has some interesting facts in it. Cost of battery and why one >cell just throws the system into "limp mode". Also the part issue, 10
    months to get a part from Japan.

    Extremely unfortunate and probably very rare for an episode such as
    this to happen. However EVs still have very few points of failure
    compared to cars powered by an ICE with attendant gearbox and
    transmission. Where EVs are suspect though is the 'clean green'
    image, which usually excludes the environmental impact of manufacture
    and end-of-life destruction.

    I have had 2 EVs and both are eminently suitable for round-town (ie
    short distance) transport - so an ICE car is still needed for
    longer-distance travel.


    --
    Crash McBash

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  • From JohnO@21:1/5 to Crash on Sun Aug 20 15:40:57 2023
    On Sunday, 20 August 2023 at 11:57:25 UTC+12, Crash wrote:
    On 19 Aug 2023 04:49:46 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/300949702/ev-car-owner-wins-dispute-after-it-stops-suddenly-twice-on-transmission-gully

    Now that the hype has started to fade we are entering the novelity of >reading about owners experiene with them

    This article has some interesting facts in it. Cost of battery and why one >cell just throws the system into "limp mode". Also the part issue, 10 >months to get a part from Japan.
    Extremely unfortunate and probably very rare for an episode such as
    this to happen. However EVs still have very few points of failure
    compared to cars powered by an ICE with attendant gearbox and
    transmission. Where EVs are suspect though is the 'clean green'
    image, which usually excludes the environmental impact of manufacture
    and end-of-life destruction.

    I have had 2 EVs and both are eminently suitable for round-town (ie
    short distance) transport - so an ICE car is still needed for
    longer-distance travel.


    --
    Crash McBash

    BEV require minimal maintenance compared to ICE - No engine oil, engine coolant, filters, spark plugs, injectors, belts, cams, transmission. Regenerative braking so reduced brake wear. Tyres are by far the biggest maintenance and service cost.
    Teslas even with the older battery tech have 90% battery capacity after 10 years or 200,000 miles. Newer LFP batteries degrade slower, don't care about repeated 100% charging, are not prone to thermal runaway and don't use cobalt.
    The only real issues now are cost, range and availability of public fast chargers. The latter two are non issues for commuting.
    My next car will likely be BEV but we'll still have an ICE car for weekend long trips and towing.

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  • From Mutley@21:1/5 to JohnO on Mon Aug 21 11:32:10 2023
    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, 20 August 2023 at 11:57:25 UTC+12, Crash wrote:
    On 19 Aug 2023 04:49:46 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/300949702/ev-car-owner-wins-dispute-after-it-stops-suddenly-twice-on-transmission-gully

    Now that the hype has started to fade we are entering the novelity of
    reading about owners experiene with them

    This article has some interesting facts in it. Cost of battery and why one >> >cell just throws the system into "limp mode". Also the part issue, 10
    months to get a part from Japan.
    Extremely unfortunate and probably very rare for an episode such as
    this to happen. However EVs still have very few points of failure
    compared to cars powered by an ICE with attendant gearbox and
    transmission. Where EVs are suspect though is the 'clean green'
    image, which usually excludes the environmental impact of manufacture
    and end-of-life destruction.

    I have had 2 EVs and both are eminently suitable for round-town (ie
    short distance) transport - so an ICE car is still needed for
    longer-distance travel.


    --
    Crash McBash

    BEV require minimal maintenance compared to ICE - No engine oil, engine coolant, filters, spark plugs, injectors, belts, cams, transmission. Regenerative braking so reduced brake wear. Tyres are by far the biggest maintenance and service cost.
    Teslas even with the older battery tech have 90% battery capacity after 10 years or 200,000 miles. Newer LFP batteries degrade slower, don't care about repeated 100% charging, are not prone to thermal runaway and don't use cobalt.
    The only real issues now are cost, range and availability of public fast chargers. The latter two are non issues for commuting.
    My next car will likely be BEV but we'll still have an ICE car for weekend long trips and towing.
    I read that you need to change the battery coolant on some cars every
    40 000 KMs. Not a cheap thing to do apparently.

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