• Crossing a river - an allegory

    From Tony@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 13 20:24:08 2023
    XPost: nz.politics

    Part 1
    https://thebfd.co.nz/2023/08/13/how-not-to-cross-a-river/
    Part 2 https://thebfd.co.nz/2023/08/13/one-step-at-a-time/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=one-step-at-a-time
    Well worth reading - headlong rush into the unknown is exactlky what is happening.
    Ignore the site where it is published - please just read and digest the content.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Tony on Sun Aug 13 22:02:05 2023
    On 2023-08-13, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Part 1
    https://thebfd.co.nz/2023/08/13/how-not-to-cross-a-river/
    Part 2 https://thebfd.co.nz/2023/08/13/one-step-at-a-time/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=one-step-at-a-time
    Well worth reading - headlong rush into the unknown is exactlky what is happening.
    Ignore the site where it is published - please just read and digest the content.


    That is a good summary. Other people are also expressing the ideas in
    article.

    The lack of critical thinking could not be greater when it comes to all
    things associated with getting CO2 out of the atmosphere.

    Yes, EVs have there advantages but they are no silver bullet.

    As the Police told us for a long time, The faster you go the bigger the
    mess.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Tony on Mon Aug 14 03:52:03 2023
    On 2023-08-13, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Part 1
    https://thebfd.co.nz/2023/08/13/how-not-to-cross-a-river/
    Part 2 https://thebfd.co.nz/2023/08/13/one-step-at-a-time/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=one-step-at-a-time
    Well worth reading - headlong rush into the unknown is exactlky what is happening.
    Ignore the site where it is published - please just read and digest the content.

    I think Harry Palmer has missed the point of using heat pumps to heat water
    for domestic houses. The idea is not to heat the water all the way but just wahat it can do easily, then the water rises to the top where the resistive element takes it to 55 degrees C. As heat pumps are more efficient than the resistive element there is an overall power saving. Whether or not this is ecominical $ wise is a matter of power cost.

    Regardless wsome power will be saved and as it probably be from coal powered power there will be less CO2

    Now, CO2 storage.

    "Now compare this with what we’re told by government and their helpers: we’re going to capture the CO2 and store it underground. What are these idiots talking about? Have they any idea?"

    Well looks like they do. They are working on it. Is it feasible/commerical? Maybe not.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0306261917313016

    This is a teaser. $38US for the PDF and further paywalls of of the
    references.

    One with think that with an emergency having been in swing for months now
    some of the "Green" money could have been use to "free" these PDFs.

    Then we have You-tube. Click away

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6EzF5HpzBo
    Norway pumping CO2

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Gordon on Mon Aug 14 04:19:23 2023
    Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    On 2023-08-13, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Part 1
    https://thebfd.co.nz/2023/08/13/how-not-to-cross-a-river/
    Part 2
    https://thebfd.co.nz/2023/08/13/one-step-at-a-time/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=one-step-at-a-time
    Well worth reading - headlong rush into the unknown is exactlky what is
    happening.
    Ignore the site where it is published - please just read and digest the >>content.

    I think Harry Palmer has missed the point of using heat pumps to heat water >for domestic houses. The idea is not to heat the water all the way but just >wahat it can do easily, then the water rises to the top where the resistive >element takes it to 55 degrees C. As heat pumps are more efficient than the >resistive element there is an overall power saving. Whether or not this is >ecominical $ wise is a matter of power cost.
    There are also heat pump clothes dryers.
    Whatever the application heat pumps are more efficient than traditional heating methods. But they are only part of the equation.

    Regardless wsome power will be saved and as it probably be from coal powered >power there will be less CO2

    Now, CO2 storage.

    "Now compare this with what we’re told by government and their helpers: >we’re going to capture the CO2 and store it underground. What are these >idiots talking about? Have they any idea?"
    It is idiotic but they are following some pseudo green philosophy or perhaps just chasing profit. Nevertheless it is idiotic.

    Well looks like they do. They are working on it. Is it feasible/commerical? >Maybe not.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0306261917313016

    This is a teaser. $38US for the PDF and further paywalls of of the >references.

    One with think that with an emergency having been in swing for months now >some of the "Green" money could have been use to "free" these PDFs.

    Then we have You-tube. Click away

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6EzF5HpzBo
    Norway pumping CO2
    Where to? The moon? And why?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)