https://climate-science.press/2023/08/07/offshore-wind-a-greater-threat-to-whales-than-oil/More unforseen consequences of a silly policy!
So just s few whales eh? All to attend to a non existent climate emergency.
On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 20:21:12 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
https://climate-science.press/2023/08/07/offshore-wind-a-greater-threat-to-whales-than-oil/effects on whales, and a possible disruption to shipping traffic. Many
So just s few whales eh? All to attend to a non existent climate emergency. You appear incapable of thinking, Tony. This may have a peripheral connection with climate issues, but much more to do with concerns of
ships across the channel could be in real danger if whale travel
changes. The ability to generate electricity and to find oil are both
very important to the UK - even more so with the Russia / Ukraine war affecting normal supplies of Russian oil. Generating electricity from
wind power, including turbines placed off shore has been an important development to the UK, and Scotland in particular. The article did not
give any implication that these developments may only affect a few
whales; your comprehension regrettably yet again appears to be
deficient.
You have posted this to nz.general; presumably you are concerned that decisions you express concerns about for the UK have some relevance
here. We do have whales that could be disturbed by off-shore turbines;
that needs to be considered here, and we could well be concerned if
tourist operations in some areas are disturbed, but there are likely
to be many other places that turbines that could be put with little disruption to tourism or to coastal shipping, but we may be more
concerned about any effects on fishing within our sea boundaries.
New Zealand is moving towards as much independence from fossil fuels
as possible, which makes sense where we can generate power more
efficiently than purchasing from other countries.
Regardless of your ignorant prejudices, there may well be good value
to New Zealand from understanding all the implications of seeking to
use off-shore based wind-power to meeting our growing energy needs,
but I doubt you are either capable or inclined to think further ahead
than the next few months . . ..
https://climate-science.press/2023/08/07/offshore-wind-a-greater-threat-to-whales-than-oil/
So just s few whales eh? All to attend to a non existent climate emergency.
On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 20:21:12 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
https://climate-science.press/2023/08/07/offshore-wind-a-greater-threat-to-whales-than-oil/
So just s few whales eh? All to attend to a non existent climate emergency.
You appear incapable of thinking, Tony.
This may have a peripheralNo, signofocant, obviously.
connection with climate issues
, but much more to do with concerns ofOff topic, this is not about danger to ships.
effects on whales, and a possible disruption to shipping traffic. Many
ships across the channel could be in real danger if whale travel
changes.
The ability to generate electricity and to find oil are bothYour mind is deficient. As is your abilty to follow any logic.
very important to the UK - even more so with the Russia / Ukraine war >affecting normal supplies of Russian oil. Generating electricity from
wind power, including turbines placed off shore has been an important >development to the UK, and Scotland in particular. The article did not
give any implication that these developments may only affect a few
whales; your comprehension regrettably yet again appears to be
deficient.
You have posted this to nz.general; presumably you are concerned that >decisions you express concerns about for the UK have some relevanceYou are alwaya posting things about other countries, why should I not?
here.
We do have whales that could be disturbed by off-shore turbines;So you answered your own inane question so why did you ask it?
that needs to be considered here, and we could well be concerned if
tourist operations in some areas are disturbed, but there are likely
to be many other places that turbines that could be put with little >disruption to tourism or to coastal shipping, but we may be more
concerned about any effects on fishing within our sea boundaries.
New Zealand is moving towards as much independence from fossil fuelsOff topic.
as possible, which makes sense where we can generate power more
efficiently than purchasing from other countries.
Regardless of your ignorant prejudices, there may well be good valueYou are incapable of thinking you abominal tiny geriatric turd.
to New Zealand from understanding all the implications of seeking to
use off-shore based wind-power to meeting our growing energy needs,
but I doubt you are either capable or inclined to think further ahead
than the next few months . . ..
On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 20:21:12 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
https://climate-science.press/2023/08/07/offshore-wind-a-greater-threat-to-whales-than-oil/
So just s few whales eh? All to attend to a non existent climate emergency.
You appear incapable of thinking, Tony. This may have a peripheral
connection with climate issues, but much more to do with concerns of
effects on whales, and a possible disruption to shipping traffic. Many
ships across the channel could be in real danger if whale travel
changes.
The ability to generate electricity and to find oil are both
very important to the UK - even more so with the Russia / Ukraine war affecting normal supplies of Russian oil.
Generating electricity from
wind power, including turbines placed off shore has been an important development to the UK, and Scotland in particular. The article did not
give any implication that these developments may only affect a few
whales; your comprehension regrettably yet again appears to be
deficient.
You have posted this to nz.general; presumably you are concerned that decisions you express concerns about for the UK have some relevance
here.
We do have whales that could be disturbed by off-shore turbines;
that needs to be considered here, and we could well be concerned if
tourist operations in some areas are disturbed, but there are likely
to be many other places that turbines that could be put with little disruption to tourism or to coastal shipping, but we may be more
concerned about any effects on fishing within our sea boundaries.
New Zealand is moving towards as much independence from fossil fuels
as possible, which makes sense where we can generate power more
efficiently than purchasing from other countries.
Regardless of your ignorant prejudices, there may well be good value
to New Zealand from understanding all the implications of seeking to
use off-shore based wind-power to meeting our growing energy needs,
but I doubt you are either capable or inclined to think further ahead
than the next few months . . ..
On 2023-08-10, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Unfortunatly Rich cannot comprehend simple matters like that.
On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 20:21:12 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
You appear incapable of thinking, Tony. This may have a peripheralSo just s few whales eh? All to attend to a non existent climate emergency. >>https://climate-science.press/2023/08/07/offshore-wind-a-greater-threat-to-whales-than-oil/
connection with climate issues, but much more to do with concerns of
effects on whales, and a possible disruption to shipping traffic. Many
ships across the channel could be in real danger if whale travel
changes.
Whale travel/migration is unlikley to alter unless the food supplies alter.
From the article
"The proposed offshore wind megaproject is to line the Atlantic coast with >dozens of huge wind “farms”. These monster wind facilities are directly >adjacent to one of the world’s heaviest traffic shipping corridors.
This corridor is named the M-95 because it parallels I-95, America’s >heaviest traffic interstate highway."
It is not a few whales which are affected. It is a great number which are >going to be injuded or killed. In effect we are now going to have open
season on killing whales.
Yes he just resaid what I said but shows that he didn't really understand a word.The ability to generate electricity and to find oil are both
very important to the UK - even more so with the Russia / Ukraine war
affecting normal supplies of Russian oil.
The are in Ukraine will be over bfore the climate scam is put to into >history. Please keep the distraction away.
Generating electricity from
wind power, including turbines placed off shore has been an important
development to the UK, and Scotland in particular. The article did not
give any implication that these developments may only affect a few
whales; your comprehension regrettably yet again appears to be
deficient.
Once again, it is many wind farms over huge areas on migration whale routes.
You have posted this to nz.general; presumably you are concerned that
decisions you express concerns about for the UK have some relevance
here.
Correct. It is the same planet we are on.
We do have whales that could be disturbed by off-shore turbines;
that needs to be considered here, and we could well be concerned if
tourist operations in some areas are disturbed, but there are likely
to be many other places that turbines that could be put with little
disruption to tourism or to coastal shipping, but we may be more
concerned about any effects on fishing within our sea boundaries.
New Zealand is moving towards as much independence from fossil fuels
as possible, which makes sense where we can generate power more
efficiently than purchasing from other countries.
Regardless of your ignorant prejudices, there may well be good value
to New Zealand from understanding all the implications of seeking to
use off-shore based wind-power to meeting our growing energy needs,
but I doubt you are either capable or inclined to think further ahead
than the next few months . . ..
This is exactly what the people who are raising the "anti" points.
On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 8:21:15 AM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
https://climate-science.press/2023/08/07/offshore-wind-a-greater-threat-to-whales-than-oil/More unforseen consequences of a silly policy!
So just s few whales eh? All to attend to a non existent climate emergency.
On 2023-08-10, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 20:21:12 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
You appear incapable of thinking, Tony. This may have a peripheralSo just s few whales eh? All to attend to a non existent climate emergency. >>https://climate-science.press/2023/08/07/offshore-wind-a-greater-threat-to-whales-than-oil/
connection with climate issues, but much more to do with concerns of
effects on whales, and a possible disruption to shipping traffic. Many
ships across the channel could be in real danger if whale travel
changes.
Whale travel/migration is unlikley to alter unless the food supplies alter.
From the article
"The proposed offshore wind megaproject is to line the Atlantic coast with >dozens of huge wind farms. These monster wind facilities are directly >adjacent to one of the worlds heaviest traffic shipping corridors.
This corridor is named the M-95 because it parallels I-95, Americas
heaviest traffic interstate highway."
It is not a few whales which are affected. It is a great number which are >going to be injuded or killed. In effect we are now going to have open
season on killing whales.
The war is affecting planning in the UK now for an expansion of windThe ability to generate electricity and to find oil are both
very important to the UK - even more so with the Russia / Ukraine war
affecting normal supplies of Russian oil.
The are in Ukraine will be over bfore the climate scam is put to into >history. Please keep the distraction away.
need to be considered for developments being considered for NewGenerating electricity from
wind power, including turbines placed off shore has been an important
development to the UK, and Scotland in particular. The article did not
give any implication that these developments may only affect a few
whales; your comprehension regrettably yet again appears to be
deficient.
Once again, it is many wind farms over huge areas on migration whale routes. That may well be the case in the UK; I am concerned that these matters
Thank you Gordon - Tony gets somewhat anal about posts that are not
You have posted this to nz.general; presumably you are concerned that
decisions you express concerns about for the UK have some relevance
here.
Correct. It is the same planet we are on.
Not sure what you mean by that, Gordon - - anti could refer to whales,We do have whales that could be disturbed by off-shore turbines;
that needs to be considered here, and we could well be concerned if
tourist operations in some areas are disturbed, but there are likely
to be many other places that turbines that could be put with little
disruption to tourism or to coastal shipping, but we may be more
concerned about any effects on fishing within our sea boundaries.
New Zealand is moving towards as much independence from fossil fuels
as possible, which makes sense where we can generate power more
efficiently than purchasing from other countries.
Regardless of your ignorant prejudices, there may well be good value
to New Zealand from understanding all the implications of seeking to
use off-shore based wind-power to meeting our growing energy needs,
but I doubt you are either capable or inclined to think further ahead
than the next few months . . ..
This is exactly what the people who are raising the "anti" points.
On 10 Aug 2023 02:40:58 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Obvious irony, to make a poit, But I am not surprised that you missed it.
On 2023-08-10, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 20:21:12 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
You appear incapable of thinking, Tony. This may have a peripheralSo just s few whales eh? All to attend to a non existent climate emergency. >>>https://climate-science.press/2023/08/07/offshore-wind-a-greater-threat-to-whales-than-oil/
connection with climate issues, but much more to do with concerns of
effects on whales, and a possible disruption to shipping traffic. Many
ships across the channel could be in real danger if whale travel
changes.
Whale travel/migration is unlikley to alter unless the food supplies alter. >>
From the article
"The proposed offshore wind megaproject is to line the Atlantic coast with >>dozens of huge wind farms. These monster wind facilities are directly >>adjacent to one of the worlds heaviest traffic shipping corridors.
This corridor is named the M-95 because it parallels I-95, Americas >>heaviest traffic interstate highway."
It is not a few whales which are affected. It is a great number which are >>going to be injuded or killed. In effect we are now going to have open >>season on killing whales.
It was Tony that claimed : "So just s few whales eh?"
I believe even aWhich was the point of the original post - well done Rich, a tiny glimpse of understanding for once, but so tiny that it was probably just chance.
few is concerning, but that if it affects fish as well it needs
further consideration if they are to be used for New Zealand
Wow you got two glimpses in one post - again, that was why I posted the original link.The war is affecting planning in the UK now for an expansion of wind
The ability to generate electricity and to find oil are both
very important to the UK - even more so with the Russia / Ukraine war
affecting normal supplies of Russian oil.
The are in Ukraine will be over bfore the climate scam is put to into >>history. Please keep the distraction away.
turbines
need to be considered for developments being considered for New
Generating electricity from
wind power, including turbines placed off shore has been an important
development to the UK, and Scotland in particular. The article did not
give any implication that these developments may only affect a few
whales; your comprehension regrettably yet again appears to be
deficient.
Once again, it is many wind farms over huge areas on migration whale routes. >That may well be the case in the UK; I am concerned that these matters
Zealand.
Anal is what you do, not me. But I am broadminded - you make love your way but I will keep to tradition.Thank you Gordon - Tony gets somewhat anal about posts that are not
You have posted this to nz.general; presumably you are concerned that
decisions you express concerns about for the UK have some relevance
here.
Correct. It is the same planet we are on.
directly linked to New Zealand - unless he posts about events overseas
. . .It is absolutely about the climate change scam. But then you were always obtuse.
Not sure what you mean by that, Gordon - - anti could refer to whales, >fishing, the UK, or electricity generation. There appears to be
We do have whales that could be disturbed by off-shore turbines;
that needs to be considered here, and we could well be concerned if
tourist operations in some areas are disturbed, but there are likely
to be many other places that turbines that could be put with little
disruption to tourism or to coastal shipping, but we may be more
concerned about any effects on fishing within our sea boundaries.
New Zealand is moving towards as much independence from fossil fuels
as possible, which makes sense where we can generate power more
efficiently than purchasing from other countries.
Regardless of your ignorant prejudices, there may well be good value
to New Zealand from understanding all the implications of seeking to
use off-shore based wind-power to meeting our growing energy needs,
but I doubt you are either capable or inclined to think further ahead
than the next few months . . ..
This is exactly what the people who are raising the "anti" points.
little connection to climate change.
On 10 Aug 2023 02:40:58 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-08-10, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 20:21:12 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
So just s few whales eh? All to attend to a non existent climate emergency.https://climate-science.press/2023/08/07/offshore-wind-a-greater-threat-to-whales-than-oil/
You appear incapable of thinking, Tony. This may have a peripheral
connection with climate issues, but much more to do with concerns of
effects on whales, and a possible disruption to shipping traffic. Many
ships across the channel could be in real danger if whale travel
changes.
Whale travel/migration is unlikley to alter unless the food supplies alter.
From the article
"The proposed offshore wind megaproject is to line the Atlantic coast with >dozens of huge wind “farms”. These monster wind facilities are directly >adjacent to one of the world’s heaviest traffic shipping corridors.
This corridor is named the M-95 because it parallels I-95, America’s >heaviest traffic interstate highway."
It is not a few whales which are affected. It is a great number which are >going to be injuded or killed. In effect we are now going to have open >season on killing whales.It was Tony that claimed : "So just s few whales eh?" I believe even a
few is concerning, but that if it affects fish as well it needs
further consideration if they are to be used for New Zealand
The ability to generate electricity and to find oil are both
very important to the UK - even more so with the Russia / Ukraine war
affecting normal supplies of Russian oil.
The are in Ukraine will be over bfore the climate scam is put to into >history. Please keep the distraction away.The war is affecting planning in the UK now for an expansion of wind turbines
Generating electricity from
wind power, including turbines placed off shore has been an important
development to the UK, and Scotland in particular. The article did not
give any implication that these developments may only affect a few
whales; your comprehension regrettably yet again appears to be
deficient.
Once again, it is many wind farms over huge areas on migration whale routes. That may well be the case in the UK; I am concerned that these mattersneed to be considered for developments being considered for New
Zealand.
You have posted this to nz.general; presumably you are concerned that
decisions you express concerns about for the UK have some relevance
here.
Correct. It is the same planet we are on.Thank you Gordon - Tony gets somewhat anal about posts that are not
directly linked to New Zealand - unless he posts about events overseas
. . .
We do have whales that could be disturbed by off-shore turbines;
that needs to be considered here, and we could well be concerned if
tourist operations in some areas are disturbed, but there are likely
to be many other places that turbines that could be put with little
disruption to tourism or to coastal shipping, but we may be more
concerned about any effects on fishing within our sea boundaries.
New Zealand is moving towards as much independence from fossil fuels
as possible, which makes sense where we can generate power more
efficiently than purchasing from other countries.
Regardless of your ignorant prejudices, there may well be good value
to New Zealand from understanding all the implications of seeking to
use off-shore based wind-power to meeting our growing energy needs,
but I doubt you are either capable or inclined to think further ahead
than the next few months . . ..
This is exactly what the people who are raising the "anti" points.Not sure what you mean by that, Gordon - - anti could refer to whales, fishing, the UK, or electricity generation. There appears to be
little connection to climate change.
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