Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a matter of >time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing to fire >from a lithium battery.Indeed. Time to take this problem seriously.
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devices
Indeed. Time to take this problem seriously.
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a matter of >>time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing to fire >>from a lithium battery.
Putting out Lithium battery fires is very difficult, much harder than most >other fires. You can't put them out with water and oxygen starvation does not >work.
If it happened on a plane I doubt it would end well.
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 00:08:52 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou whinge, I don't.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devices
Indeed. Time to take this problem seriously.
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a matter of >>>time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing to fire >>>from a lithium battery.
Putting out Lithium battery fires is very difficult, much harder than most >>other fires. You can't put them out with water and oxygen starvation does not >>work.
If it happened on a plane I doubt it would end well.
Many passengers fly with a mobile phone - and there have been problems
with those batteries.
Is your concern just a general whinge, or do you want something to
happen? I cannot see an NZ government banning carrying devices with
batteries on planes . . .
This appears to be just a general whinge, designed to make people >dissatisfied, but not offering any solutions - no where have we seen
that before . . .?
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 01:31:50 -0000 (UTC), TonyThat is so obvious I am sure you could work it out (well, maybe not so sure). But I will assist you, the designers and manufacturers of the batteries need to work on a fix. No different from any technology.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 00:08:52 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou whinge, I don't.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devices
Indeed. Time to take this problem seriously.
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a matter of >>>>>time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing to >>>>>fire
from a lithium battery.
Putting out Lithium battery fires is very difficult, much harder than most >>>>other fires. You can't put them out with water and oxygen starvation does >>>>not
work.
If it happened on a plane I doubt it would end well.
Many passengers fly with a mobile phone - and there have been problems >>>with those batteries.
Is your concern just a general whinge, or do you want something to >>>happen? I cannot see an NZ government banning carrying devices with >>>batteries on planes . . .
This appears to be just a general whinge, designed to make people >>>dissatisfied, but not offering any solutions - no where have we seen
that before . . .?
What it seems to you is as relevant as you are to this newsgroup, virtually >>irrelevant.
Lithium batteries are potential killers and in some cases already so. That is >>not whingiing, that is good scientific concern. The more batteries there are >>the more likely there will be accidents and the fires are much harder to put >>out than most fires, you are a fool hiding your poity head in the proverbial >>sand. Scientists all over the world are concerned, shipping lines are >>concerned, insurers are concerned but you are not, you are a fool.
So what do you believe should happen?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 00:08:52 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou whinge, I don't.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devices
Indeed. Time to take this problem seriously.
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a matter of >>>>time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing to fire
from a lithium battery.
Putting out Lithium battery fires is very difficult, much harder than most >>>other fires. You can't put them out with water and oxygen starvation does not
work.
If it happened on a plane I doubt it would end well.
Many passengers fly with a mobile phone - and there have been problems
with those batteries.
Is your concern just a general whinge, or do you want something to
happen? I cannot see an NZ government banning carrying devices with >>batteries on planes . . .
This appears to be just a general whinge, designed to make people >>dissatisfied, but not offering any solutions - no where have we seen
that before . . .?
What it seems to you is as relevant as you are to this newsgroup, virtually >irrelevant.
Lithium batteries are potential killers and in some cases already so. That is >not whingiing, that is good scientific concern. The more batteries there are >the more likely there will be accidents and the fires are much harder to put >out than most fires, you are a fool hiding your poity head in the proverbial >sand. Scientists all over the world are concerned, shipping lines are >concerned, insurers are concerned but you are not, you are a fool.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 01:31:50 -0000 (UTC), TonyThat is so obvious I am sure you could work it out (well, maybe not so sure). >But I will assist you, the designers and manufacturers of the batteries need to
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 00:08:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:You whinge, I don't.
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devices
Indeed. Time to take this problem seriously.
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a matter of >>>>>>time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing to >>>>>>fire
from a lithium battery.
Putting out Lithium battery fires is very difficult, much harder than most >>>>>other fires. You can't put them out with water and oxygen starvation does >>>>>not
work.
If it happened on a plane I doubt it would end well.
Many passengers fly with a mobile phone - and there have been problems >>>>with those batteries.
Is your concern just a general whinge, or do you want something to >>>>happen? I cannot see an NZ government banning carrying devices with >>>>batteries on planes . . .
This appears to be just a general whinge, designed to make people >>>>dissatisfied, but not offering any solutions - no where have we seen >>>>that before . . .?
What it seems to you is as relevant as you are to this newsgroup, virtually >>>irrelevant.
Lithium batteries are potential killers and in some cases already so. That is
not whingiing, that is good scientific concern. The more batteries there are >>>the more likely there will be accidents and the fires are much harder to put >>>out than most fires, you are a fool hiding your poity head in the proverbial >>>sand. Scientists all over the world are concerned, shipping lines are >>>concerned, insurers are concerned but you are not, you are a fool.
So what do you believe should happen?
work on a fix. No different from any technology.
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 02:11:44 -0000 (UTC), TonyNo such implication from me. You are being obtuse and abusive.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 01:31:50 -0000 (UTC), TonyThat is so obvious I am sure you could work it out (well, maybe not so sure). >>But I will assist you, the designers and manufacturers of the batteries need >>to
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 00:08:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:You whinge, I don't.
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devices
Indeed. Time to take this problem seriously.
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a matter of
time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing to >>>>>>>fire
from a lithium battery.
Putting out Lithium battery fires is very difficult, much harder than >>>>>>most
other fires. You can't put them out with water and oxygen starvation does >>>>>>not
work.
If it happened on a plane I doubt it would end well.
Many passengers fly with a mobile phone - and there have been problems >>>>>with those batteries.
Is your concern just a general whinge, or do you want something to >>>>>happen? I cannot see an NZ government banning carrying devices with >>>>>batteries on planes . . .
This appears to be just a general whinge, designed to make people >>>>>dissatisfied, but not offering any solutions - no where have we seen >>>>>that before . . .?
What it seems to you is as relevant as you are to this newsgroup, virtually >>>>irrelevant.
Lithium batteries are potential killers and in some cases already so. That >>>>is
not whingiing, that is good scientific concern. The more batteries there >>>>are
the more likely there will be accidents and the fires are much harder to >>>>put
out than most fires, you are a fool hiding your poity head in the >>>>proverbial
sand. Scientists all over the world are concerned, shipping lines are >>>>concerned, insurers are concerned but you are not, you are a fool.
So what do you believe should happen?
work on a fix. No different from any technology.
Just as I thought - a general whinge, implying that some action was
needed in New Zealand, and that we were all threatened with disaster
unless change was made
- but in reality accepting my belief that thereYour belief is wrong.
is as yet insufficient evidence to require anything other than keeping
the public generally informed (which is happening).
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:I am nothing like you Tony.
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 02:11:44 -0000 (UTC), TonyNo such implication from me. You are being obtuse and abusive.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 01:31:50 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:That is so obvious I am sure you could work it out (well, maybe not so sure).
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 00:08:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:You whinge, I don't.
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devices
Indeed. Time to take this problem seriously.
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a matter of
time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing to >>>>>>>>fire
from a lithium battery.
Putting out Lithium battery fires is very difficult, much harder than >>>>>>>most
other fires. You can't put them out with water and oxygen starvation does
not
work.
If it happened on a plane I doubt it would end well.
Many passengers fly with a mobile phone - and there have been problems >>>>>>with those batteries.
Is your concern just a general whinge, or do you want something to >>>>>>happen? I cannot see an NZ government banning carrying devices with >>>>>>batteries on planes . . .
This appears to be just a general whinge, designed to make people >>>>>>dissatisfied, but not offering any solutions - no where have we seen >>>>>>that before . . .?
What it seems to you is as relevant as you are to this newsgroup, virtually
irrelevant.
Lithium batteries are potential killers and in some cases already so. That >>>>>is
not whingiing, that is good scientific concern. The more batteries there >>>>>are
the more likely there will be accidents and the fires are much harder to >>>>>put
out than most fires, you are a fool hiding your poity head in the >>>>>proverbial
sand. Scientists all over the world are concerned, shipping lines are >>>>>concerned, insurers are concerned but you are not, you are a fool.
So what do you believe should happen?
But I will assist you, the designers and manufacturers of the batteries need >>>to
work on a fix. No different from any technology.
Just as I thought - a general whinge, implying that some action was
needed in New Zealand, and that we were all threatened with disaster
unless change was made
What a stupid statement. You are losing any ability to analyse and- but in reality accepting my belief that thereYour belief is wrong.
is as yet insufficient evidence to require anything other than keeping
the public generally informed (which is happening).
No whinging from me, you are just too dumb to understand bad technology, maybe >you should never have taken science in high school.
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 03:06:43 -0000 (UTC), TonyNo you are not but you are obtuse and abusive.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:I am nothing like you Tony.
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 02:11:44 -0000 (UTC), TonyNo such implication from me. You are being obtuse and abusive.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 01:31:50 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:That is so obvious I am sure you could work it out (well, maybe not so >>>>sure).
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 00:08:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:You whinge, I don't.
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devices
Indeed. Time to take this problem seriously.
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a matter >>>>>>>>>of
time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing >>>>>>>>>to
fire
from a lithium battery.
Putting out Lithium battery fires is very difficult, much harder than >>>>>>>>most
other fires. You can't put them out with water and oxygen starvation >>>>>>>>does
not
work.
If it happened on a plane I doubt it would end well.
Many passengers fly with a mobile phone - and there have been problems >>>>>>>with those batteries.
Is your concern just a general whinge, or do you want something to >>>>>>>happen? I cannot see an NZ government banning carrying devices with >>>>>>>batteries on planes . . .
This appears to be just a general whinge, designed to make people >>>>>>>dissatisfied, but not offering any solutions - no where have we seen >>>>>>>that before . . .?
What it seems to you is as relevant as you are to this newsgroup, >>>>>>virtually
irrelevant.
Lithium batteries are potential killers and in some cases already so. >>>>>>That
is
not whingiing, that is good scientific concern. The more batteries there >>>>>>are
the more likely there will be accidents and the fires are much harder to >>>>>>put
out than most fires, you are a fool hiding your poity head in the >>>>>>proverbial
sand. Scientists all over the world are concerned, shipping lines are >>>>>>concerned, insurers are concerned but you are not, you are a fool.
So what do you believe should happen?
But I will assist you, the designers and manufacturers of the batteries >>>>need
to
work on a fix. No different from any technology.
Just as I thought - a general whinge, implying that some action was >>>needed in New Zealand, and that we were all threatened with disaster >>>unless change was made
You have never achieved a science degree. Your mental approach is inconsistent with ever having attended university. So you lied about that.What a stupid statement. You are losing any ability to analyse and- but in reality accepting my belief that thereYour belief is wrong.
is as yet insufficient evidence to require anything other than keeping >>>the public generally informed (which is happening).
No whinging from me, you are just too dumb to understand bad technology, >>maybe
you should never have taken science in high school.
think through conversations. I suspect Alzheimer, combined with
unjustified arrogance is making you frustrated by your evident loss of >acuity.
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 00:08:52 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou do love showing what a feral and stupid left whinger Red Rich!
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devicesMany passengers fly with a mobile phone - and there have been problems
Indeed. Time to take this problem seriously.
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a matter of >>time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing to fire
from a lithium battery.
Putting out Lithium battery fires is very difficult, much harder than most >other fires. You can't put them out with water and oxygen starvation does not
work.
If it happened on a plane I doubt it would end well.
with those batteries.
Is your concern just a general whinge, or do you want something to
happen? I cannot see an NZ government banning carrying devices with batteries on planes . . .
This appears to be just a general whinge, designed to make people dissatisfied, but not offering any solutions - no where have we seen
that before . . .?
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 03:06:43 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:I am nothing like you Tony.
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 02:11:44 -0000 (UTC), TonyNo such implication from me. You are being obtuse and abusive.
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 01:31:50 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:That is so obvious I am sure you could work it out (well, maybe not so sure).
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 00:08:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:You whinge, I don't.
Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devices
Indeed. Time to take this problem seriously.
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a matter of
time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing to
fire
from a lithium battery.
Putting out Lithium battery fires is very difficult, much harder than >>>>>>>most
other fires. You can't put them out with water and oxygen starvation does
not
work.
If it happened on a plane I doubt it would end well.
Many passengers fly with a mobile phone - and there have been problems >>>>>>with those batteries.
Is your concern just a general whinge, or do you want something to >>>>>>happen? I cannot see an NZ government banning carrying devices with >>>>>>batteries on planes . . .
This appears to be just a general whinge, designed to make people >>>>>>dissatisfied, but not offering any solutions - no where have we seen >>>>>>that before . . .?
What it seems to you is as relevant as you are to this newsgroup, virtually
irrelevant.
Lithium batteries are potential killers and in some cases already so. That
is
not whingiing, that is good scientific concern. The more batteries there
are
the more likely there will be accidents and the fires are much harder to
put
out than most fires, you are a fool hiding your poity head in the >>>>>proverbial
sand. Scientists all over the world are concerned, shipping lines are >>>>>concerned, insurers are concerned but you are not, you are a fool.
So what do you believe should happen?
But I will assist you, the designers and manufacturers of the batteries need
to
work on a fix. No different from any technology.
Just as I thought - a general whinge, implying that some action was >>needed in New Zealand, and that we were all threatened with disaster >>unless change was made
The stupid is your stupid reply to honesty Red Rich! In your case it's a failure of Labours mental health initiative...What a stupid statement. You are losing any ability to analyse and- but in reality accepting my belief that thereYour belief is wrong.
is as yet insufficient evidence to require anything other than keeping >>the public generally informed (which is happening).
No whinging from me, you are just too dumb to understand bad technology, maybe
you should never have taken science in high school.
think through conversations. I suspect Alzheimer, combined with
unjustified arrogance is making you frustrated by your evident loss of acuity.
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-07-31, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:They are only uncommon to idiots who deny the facts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw2XYr62fjchttps://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devices
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a matter of >>> time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing to fire
from a lithium battery.
This guy is a pilot and he has many video on you tube. Most of them >>interesting.
This one gives and insight of a fire onboard.
A quick search will also show that fires via lithum batteries are no >>uncommon.
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 05:27:45 -0000 (UTC), TonyLying pos! You deny facts on a daily basis Rich and_you_know_it!
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:I do not deny facts - show some to us, Tony . . .
On 2023-07-31, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:They are only uncommon to idiots who deny the facts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw2XYr62fjchttps://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devices
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a matter of
time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing to fire
from a lithium battery.
This guy is a pilot and he has many video on you tube. Most of them >>interesting.
This one gives and insight of a fire onboard.
A quick search will also show that fires via lithum batteries are no >>uncommon.
On 2023-07-31, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:They are only uncommon to idiots who deny the facts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw2XYr62fjchttps://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devices
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a matter of
time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing to fire >> from a lithium battery.
This guy is a pilot and he has many video on you tube. Most of them >interesting.
This one gives and insight of a fire onboard.
A quick search will also show that fires via lithum batteries are no >uncommon.
On 2023-07-31, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-deviceshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw2XYr62fjc
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a matter of
time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing to fire >> from a lithium battery.
This guy is a pilot and he has many video on you tube. Most of them >interesting.
This one gives and insight of a fire onboard.
A quick search will also show that fires via lithum batteries are no >uncommon.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devices
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a matter of time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing to fire from a lithium battery.
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:You forgot: Red Rich is a liar. Fact!
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 05:27:45 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-07-31, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:They are only uncommon to idiots who deny the facts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw2XYr62fjchttps://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devices
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a matter of
time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing to >>>>fire
from a lithium battery.
This guy is a pilot and he has many video on you tube. Most of them >>>interesting.
This one gives and insight of a fire onboard.
A quick search will also show that fires via lithum batteries are no >>>uncommon.
I do not deny facts - show some to us, Tony . . .Lithium batteries burst into flame. Fact!
You are an idiot. Fact!!
Ipso facto you deny facts.
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 05:27:45 -0000 (UTC), TonyLithium batteries burst into flame. Fact!
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-07-31, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:They are only uncommon to idiots who deny the facts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw2XYr62fjchttps://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devices
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a matter of >>>> time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing to >>>>fire
from a lithium battery.
This guy is a pilot and he has many video on you tube. Most of them >>>interesting.
This one gives and insight of a fire onboard.
A quick search will also show that fires via lithum batteries are no >>>uncommon.
I do not deny facts - show some to us, Tony . . .
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 05:27:45 -0000 (UTC), TonyLithium batteries burst into flame. Fact!
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-07-31, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:They are only uncommon to idiots who deny the facts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw2XYr62fjchttps://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devices
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a matter of >>>>> time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing to >>>>>fire
from a lithium battery.
This guy is a pilot and he has many video on you tube. Most of them >>>>interesting.
This one gives and insight of a fire onboard.
A quick search will also show that fires via lithum batteries are no >>>>uncommon.
I do not deny facts - show some to us, Tony . . .
You are an idiot. Fact!!
Ipso facto you deny facts.
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 06:18:29 -0000 (UTC), TonyThat's what YOU are supposed to do Red Rich! Only a lying left whinger like you don't think you ever need to support your claims!
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Prove that they are "no uncommon" as you have asserted then . . .
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 05:27:45 -0000 (UTC), TonyLithium batteries burst into flame. Fact!
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-07-31, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:They are only uncommon to idiots who deny the facts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw2XYr62fjchttps://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devices
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a matter of
time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing to
fire
from a lithium battery.
This guy is a pilot and he has many video on you tube. Most of them >>>>interesting.
This one gives and insight of a fire onboard.
A quick search will also show that fires via lithum batteries are no >>>>uncommon.
I do not deny facts - show some to us, Tony . . .
You are an idiot. Fact!!
Ipso facto you deny facts.
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 06:18:29 -0000 (UTC), TonyOh you do suffer don't you. I did not write that! You should pay more attention - did you get that message at school?
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 05:27:45 -0000 (UTC), TonyLithium batteries burst into flame. Fact!
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-07-31, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:They are only uncommon to idiots who deny the facts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw2XYr62fjchttps://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devices
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a matter of
time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing to >>>>>>fire
from a lithium battery.
This guy is a pilot and he has many video on you tube. Most of them >>>>>interesting.
This one gives and insight of a fire onboard.
A quick search will also show that fires via lithum batteries are no >>>>>uncommon.
I do not deny facts - show some to us, Tony . . .
You are an idiot. Fact!!
Ipso facto you deny facts.
Prove that they are "no uncommon" as you have asserted then . . .
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Correction for the challenged - lithium battery fires are quite common.
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 06:18:29 -0000 (UTC), TonyOh you do suffer don't you. I did not write that! You should pay more >attention
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 05:27:45 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Lithium batteries burst into flame. Fact!
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-07-31, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:They are only uncommon to idiots who deny the facts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw2XYr62fjchttps://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devices
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a matter >>>>>>>of
time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing to >>>>>>>fire
from a lithium battery.
This guy is a pilot and he has many video on you tube. Most of them >>>>>>interesting.
This one gives and insight of a fire onboard.
A quick search will also show that fires via lithum batteries are no >>>>>>uncommon.
I do not deny facts - show some to us, Tony . . .
You are an idiot. Fact!!
Ipso facto you deny facts.
Prove that they are "no uncommon" as you have asserted then . . .
- did you get that message at school?
However fires are not uncommonly caused by lithium batteries. No proof >necessary just google battery fires or something similar.
Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Correction for the challenged - lithium battery fires are quite common.
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 06:18:29 -0000 (UTC), TonyOh you do suffer don't you. I did not write that! You should pay more >>attention
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 05:27:45 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Lithium batteries burst into flame. Fact!
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-07-31, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:They are only uncommon to idiots who deny the facts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw2XYr62fjchttps://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devices
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a matter >>>>>>>>of
time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing to
fire
from a lithium battery.
This guy is a pilot and he has many video on you tube. Most of them >>>>>>>interesting.
This one gives and insight of a fire onboard.
A quick search will also show that fires via lithum batteries are no >>>>>>>uncommon.
I do not deny facts - show some to us, Tony . . .
You are an idiot. Fact!!
Ipso facto you deny facts.
Prove that they are "no uncommon" as you have asserted then . . .
- did you get that message at school?
However fires are not uncommonly caused by lithium batteries. No proof >>necessary just google battery fires or something similar.
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 20:14:26 -0000 (UTC), TonySo Red Rich, do you have anything to support your unsupported claims? Or is it only those who disagree with you/the left who need to support their claims?
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Tony <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:You are correct it was Gordon that originally made that statement, but
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Correction for the challenged - lithium battery fires are quite common.
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 06:18:29 -0000 (UTC), TonyOh you do suffer don't you. I did not write that! You should pay more >>attention
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 05:27:45 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Lithium batteries burst into flame. Fact!
Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-07-31, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:They are only uncommon to idiots who deny the facts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw2XYr62fjchttps://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devices
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a matter
of
time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing to
fire
from a lithium battery.
This guy is a pilot and he has many video on you tube. Most of them >>>>>>>interesting.
This one gives and insight of a fire onboard.
A quick search will also show that fires via lithum batteries are no >>>>>>>uncommon.
I do not deny facts - show some to us, Tony . . .
You are an idiot. Fact!!
Ipso facto you deny facts.
Prove that they are "no uncommon" as you have asserted then . . .
- did you get that message at school?
However fires are not uncommonly caused by lithium batteries. No proof >>necessary just google battery fires or something similar.
you have now effectively said the same thing - again without any
supporting evidence.
I have not experienced a lithium battery fire, and I do not know
anyone else who has. I suspect most people are in that situation, and
many will never have heard of such a fire, despite there having been a number of articles about them around the world - I cannot for example remember when there was such a report in my local paper or on
television or radio - and I possible read and watch more widely than
many. I do know that when they happen they can cause severe damage. I
have been told that many mobile phones use such batteries but I detect
no qualms with most people over leaving them charging overnight or
carrying them around - and precautions against dropping them is more
about avoiding breakage.
So ''quite common'' may be fairly meaningless really in the context of
the general population . . .
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 20:14:26 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou should be more careful - you commonly fail to assign sources accurately.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Correction for the challenged - lithium battery fires are quite common.
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 06:18:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Oh you do suffer don't you. I did not write that! You should pay more >>>attention
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 05:27:45 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Lithium batteries burst into flame. Fact!
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-07-31, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:They are only uncommon to idiots who deny the facts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw2XYr62fjchttps://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devices
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a >>>>>>>>>matter
of
time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing >>>>>>>>>to
fire
from a lithium battery.
This guy is a pilot and he has many video on you tube. Most of them >>>>>>>>interesting.
This one gives and insight of a fire onboard.
A quick search will also show that fires via lithum batteries are no >>>>>>>>uncommon.
I do not deny facts - show some to us, Tony . . .
You are an idiot. Fact!!
Ipso facto you deny facts.
Prove that they are "no uncommon" as you have asserted then . . .
- did you get that message at school?
However fires are not uncommonly caused by lithium batteries. No proof >>>necessary just google battery fires or something similar.
You are correct it was Gordon that originally made that statement, but
you have now effectively said the same thing - again without any
supporting evidence.
I have not experienced a lithium battery fire, and I do not knowABsolute nonsense. Just use your favourite browser. You wil see, but not recognise, the truth.
anyone else who has. I suspect most people are in that situation, and
many will never have heard of such a fire, despite there having been a
number of articles about them around the world - I cannot for example >remember when there was such a report in my local paper or on
television or radio - and I possible read and watch more widely than
many. I do know that when they happen they can cause severe damage. I
have been told that many mobile phones use such batteries but I detect
no qualms with most people over leaving them charging overnight or
carrying them around - and precautions against dropping them is more
about avoiding breakage.
So ''quite common'' may be fairly meaningless really in the context of
the general population . . .
On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 01:09:27 -0000 (UTC), TonyWhat right allows you to defame me. I am not authoritarian and you cannot prove that I am.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:group discussions, whereas in your authoritarian way you regard
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 20:14:26 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou should be more careful - you commonly fail to assign sources accurately. >I do not regard usenet as personal discussions - I regard them as
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Correction for the challenged - lithium battery fires are quite common.
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 06:18:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Oh you do suffer don't you. I did not write that! You should pay more >>>>>attention
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 05:27:45 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Lithium batteries burst into flame. Fact!
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-07-31, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:They are only uncommon to idiots who deny the facts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw2XYr62fjchttps://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devices
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a >>>>>>>>>>>matter
of
time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, >>>>>>>>>>>owing
to
fire
from a lithium battery.
This guy is a pilot and he has many video on you tube. Most of them >>>>>>>>>>interesting.
This one gives and insight of a fire onboard.
A quick search will also show that fires via lithum batteries are no >>>>>>>>>>uncommon.
I do not deny facts - show some to us, Tony . . .
You are an idiot. Fact!!
Ipso facto you deny facts.
Prove that they are "no uncommon" as you have asserted then . . .
- did you get that message at school?
However fires are not uncommonly caused by lithium batteries. No proof >>>>>necessary just google battery fires or something similar.
You are correct it was Gordon that originally made that statement, but >>>you have now effectively said the same thing - again without any >>>supporting evidence.
yourself as in charge of any thread you start . . .
Nonsense. They are commonplace.ABsolute nonsense. Just use your favourite browser. You wil see, but not >>recognise, the truth.
I have not experienced a lithium battery fire, and I do not know
anyone else who has. I suspect most people are in that situation, and >>>many will never have heard of such a fire, despite there having been a >>>number of articles about them around the world - I cannot for example >>>remember when there was such a report in my local paper or on
television or radio - and I possible read and watch more widely than >>>many. I do know that when they happen they can cause severe damage. I >>>have been told that many mobile phones use such batteries but I detect
no qualms with most people over leaving them charging overnight or >>>carrying them around - and precautions against dropping them is more >>>about avoiding breakage.
So ''quite common'' may be fairly meaningless really in the context of >>>the general population . . .
So have you never experienced such a fire, or know anyone who has? I >certainly do not - they only occasionally get reported, although it is
now clear that they can be very difficult to put out
What a silly question - look it up.Lithium battery fires are commonplace worldwide.When was the last fire before the scooter fire in a Wellington
Apartment this week?
Yes they are. Many hundresd every year in this country.To say that you have not had one is culpably stupid. I doubt you have had a >>brain tumour either and they are commonplace.No they are not. I am sorry if you have experienced either.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:I do not regard usenet as personal discussions - I regard them as
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 20:14:26 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou should be more careful - you commonly fail to assign sources accurately.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Correction for the challenged - lithium battery fires are quite common.
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 06:18:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Oh you do suffer don't you. I did not write that! You should pay more >>>>attention
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 05:27:45 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Lithium batteries burst into flame. Fact!
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-07-31, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:They are only uncommon to idiots who deny the facts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw2XYr62fjchttps://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devices
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a >>>>>>>>>>matter
of
time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing >>>>>>>>>>to
fire
from a lithium battery.
This guy is a pilot and he has many video on you tube. Most of them >>>>>>>>>interesting.
This one gives and insight of a fire onboard.
A quick search will also show that fires via lithum batteries are no >>>>>>>>>uncommon.
I do not deny facts - show some to us, Tony . . .
You are an idiot. Fact!!
Ipso facto you deny facts.
Prove that they are "no uncommon" as you have asserted then . . .
- did you get that message at school?
However fires are not uncommonly caused by lithium batteries. No proof >>>>necessary just google battery fires or something similar.
You are correct it was Gordon that originally made that statement, but
you have now effectively said the same thing - again without any
supporting evidence.
ABsolute nonsense. Just use your favourite browser. You wil see, but not >recognise, the truth.
I have not experienced a lithium battery fire, and I do not know
anyone else who has. I suspect most people are in that situation, and
many will never have heard of such a fire, despite there having been a >>number of articles about them around the world - I cannot for example >>remember when there was such a report in my local paper or on
television or radio - and I possible read and watch more widely than
many. I do know that when they happen they can cause severe damage. I
have been told that many mobile phones use such batteries but I detect
no qualms with most people over leaving them charging overnight or
carrying them around - and precautions against dropping them is more
about avoiding breakage.
So ''quite common'' may be fairly meaningless really in the context of
the general population . . .
Lithium battery fires are commonplace worldwide.When was the last fire before the scooter fire in a Wellington
To say that you have not had one is culpably stupid. I doubt you have had a >brain tumour either and they are commonplace.No they are not. I am sorry if you have experienced either.
I cannot for example
remember when there was such a report in my local paper or on
television or radio - and I possible read and watch more widely than
many.
On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 01:09:27 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:group discussions,
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 20:14:26 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou should be more careful - you commonly fail to assign sources accurately. >I do not regard usenet as personal discussions - I regard them as
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Correction for the challenged - lithium battery fires are quite common.
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 06:18:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Oh you do suffer don't you. I did not write that! You should pay more >>>>>attention
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 05:27:45 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Lithium batteries burst into flame. Fact!
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-07-31, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:They are only uncommon to idiots who deny the facts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw2XYr62fjchttps://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/132648088/why-passengers-are-being-warned-not-to-fly-with-fully-charged-devices
Reading into this article we have the concern that it is just a >>>>>>>>>>>matter
of
time before a plane load of people make an unintended landing, owing
to
fire
from a lithium battery.
This guy is a pilot and he has many video on you tube. Most of them >>>>>>>>>>interesting.
This one gives and insight of a fire onboard.
A quick search will also show that fires via lithum batteries are no >>>>>>>>>>uncommon.
I do not deny facts - show some to us, Tony . . .
You are an idiot. Fact!!
Ipso facto you deny facts.
Prove that they are "no uncommon" as you have asserted then . . .
- did you get that message at school?
However fires are not uncommonly caused by lithium batteries. No proof >>>>>necessary just google battery fires or something similar.
You are correct it was Gordon that originally made that statement, but >>>you have now effectively said the same thing - again without any >>>supporting evidence.
whereas in your authoritarian way you regard
yourself as in charge of any thread you start . . .
ABsolute nonsense. Just use your favourite browser. You wil see, but not >>recognise, the truth.
I have not experienced a lithium battery fire, and I do not know
anyone else who has. I suspect most people are in that situation, and >>>many will never have heard of such a fire, despite there having been a >>>number of articles about them around the world - I cannot for example >>>remember when there was such a report in my local paper or on
television or radio - and I possible read and watch more widely than >>>many. I do know that when they happen they can cause severe damage. I >>>have been told that many mobile phones use such batteries but I detect
no qualms with most people over leaving them charging overnight or >>>carrying them around - and precautions against dropping them is more >>>about avoiding breakage.
So ''quite common'' may be fairly meaningless really in the context of >>>the general population . . .
So have you never experienced such a fire, or know anyone who has? I >certainly do not - they only occasionally get reported, although it is
now clear that they can be very difficult to put out
Lithium battery fires are commonplace worldwide.When was the last fire before the scooter fire in a Wellington
Apartment this week?
To say that you have not had one is culpably stupid. I doubt you have had a >>brain tumour either and they are commonplace.No they are not. I am sorry if you have experienced either.
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