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  • The rot from this Labour government goes even deeper!

    From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 26 03:03:50 2023
    Suggesting Maori have free speech while the rest have to watch what we say! Typical of the drive towards an apartheid society. Rich will love it!:)

    https://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/Files/online-content-regulation/%24file/Safer-Online-Services-and-Media-Platforms-Discussion-Document-June-2023.pdf

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to bowesjohn02@gmail.com on Thu Jul 27 10:08:40 2023
    On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 03:03:50 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    Suggesting Maori have free speech while the rest have to watch what we say! Typical of the drive towards an apartheid society. Rich will love it!:)

    https://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/Files/online-content-regulation/%24file/Safer-Online-Services-and-Media-Platforms-Discussion-Document-June-2023.pdf

    This is a 90-page document with 161 clauses and 4 Appendixes. Can you
    be a bit more specific by identifying the clauses you consider to be
    'rot'?


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    Crash McBash

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Crash on Wed Jul 26 16:31:36 2023
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 10:08:25 AM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
    On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 03:03:50 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Suggesting Maori have free speech while the rest have to watch what we say! Typical of the drive towards an apartheid society. Rich will love it!:)

    https://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/Files/online-content-regulation/%24file/Safer-Online-Services-and-Media-Platforms-Discussion-Document-June-2023.pdf
    This is a 90-page document with 161 clauses and 4 Appendixes. Can you
    be a bit more specific by identifying the clauses you consider to be
    'rot'?


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    Crash McBash
    It's yet another attack on our freedom of speech and democracy under a different name Crash. A lot like 3 er 5 er 7 er Affordable Water. Directed by someone appointed!

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to bowesjohn02@gmail.com on Thu Jul 27 12:38:41 2023
    On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 16:31:36 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 10:08:25?AM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
    On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 03:03:50 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Suggesting Maori have free speech while the rest have to watch what we say! Typical of the drive towards an apartheid society. Rich will love it!:)

    https://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/Files/online-content-regulation/%24file/Safer-Online-Services-and-Media-Platforms-Discussion-Document-June-2023.pdf
    This is a 90-page document with 161 clauses and 4 Appendixes. Can you
    be a bit more specific by identifying the clauses you consider to be
    'rot'?


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    Crash McBash
    It's yet another attack on our freedom of speech and democracy under a different name Crash. A lot like 3 er 5 er 7 er Affordable Water. Directed by someone appointed!

    We already have censorship of movies etc. so this is nothing new.
    While I agree that proposals to censor content served up by the
    internet, I saw no evidence of any race-based segregation as you seem
    to have.

    We have a number of regulators - the Commerce Commission, Reserve
    Bank, FMA et al. They are tasked with regulations enforcement.
    Clearly you believe that what is proposed here is different but you
    have given no specifics. From what I can see the proposal is for
    another regulator whose primary role is to establish a code of
    practice with Social Media then to act as an enforcement agency. There
    is no suggestion that the regulator decides on what is to be enforced.

    My take on all this is that regulation to stop harmful internet
    content being seen in NZ will not be possible because any attempt to
    do this will result in the widespread use of virtual networks which
    circumvents geo-location of users.


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    Crash McBash

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Crash on Wed Jul 26 18:18:48 2023
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 12:38:27 PM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
    On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 16:31:36 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 10:08:25?AM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
    On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 03:03:50 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Suggesting Maori have free speech while the rest have to watch what we say! Typical of the drive towards an apartheid society. Rich will love it!:)

    https://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/Files/online-content-regulation/%24file/Safer-Online-Services-and-Media-Platforms-Discussion-Document-June-2023.pdf
    This is a 90-page document with 161 clauses and 4 Appendixes. Can you
    be a bit more specific by identifying the clauses you consider to be
    'rot'?


    --
    Crash McBash
    It's yet another attack on our freedom of speech and democracy under a different name Crash. A lot like 3 er 5 er 7 er Affordable Water. Directed by someone appointed!
    We already have censorship of movies etc. so this is nothing new.
    While I agree that proposals to censor content served up by the
    internet, I saw no evidence of any race-based segregation as you seem
    to have.

    We have a number of regulators - the Commerce Commission, Reserve
    Bank, FMA et al. They are tasked with regulations enforcement.
    Clearly you believe that what is proposed here is different but you
    have given no specifics. From what I can see the proposal is for
    another regulator whose primary role is to establish a code of
    practice with Social Media then to act as an enforcement agency. There
    is no suggestion that the regulator decides on what is to be enforced.

    My take on all this is that regulation to stop harmful internet
    content being seen in NZ will not be possible because any attempt to
    do this will result in the widespread use of virtual networks which circumvents geo-location of users.


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    Crash McBash
    The race based control is another proposal in the pipeline apparently. I still feel the proposal I highlighted here is going over the top!

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