They must have read your post. you know, the one Rich80105 tried his big distract on. Well it answers his question about who wants to lock up these young pos's. It's his inglorious Labour party! wonder if he's got the e-mail yat :)

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132563946/ministers-commit-to-building-two-new-high-needs-youth-justice-facilities

Guess it finally got through Labours oversized ego that we don't want these young criminals on the streets!

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On 2023-07-18, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

They must have read your post. you know, the one Rich80105 tried his big distract on. Well it answers his question about who wants to lock up these young pos's. It's his inglorious Labour party! wonder if he's got the e-mail yat :)

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132563946/ministers-commit-to-building-two-new-high-needs-youth-justice-facilities

Guess it finally got through Labours oversized ego that we don't want these young criminals on the streets!

Reading throuh that article the phrase (neither) Arthur or Martha comes to mind.

It reads as if it is just knee jerking 87 days out from an election. This is what is driving them at this stage. Win the election and then they will pull out the hidden plan.

At this stage of the electrol cycle it is customary to wave promises in the air, which can turn into mandates should the party win. Asof now it appears
if they should win the country will not know what the mandates are,
confusion will be the result.

Still, this will not be anything that has gone before.

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On 18 Jul 2023 03:43:37 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

On 2023-07-18, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

They must have read your post. you know, the one Rich80105 tried his big distract on. Well it answers his question about who wants to lock up these young pos's. It's his inglorious Labour party! wonder if he's got the e-mail yat :)

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132563946/ministers-commit-to-building-two-new-high-needs-youth-justice-facilities

Guess it finally got through Labours oversized ego that we don't want these young criminals on the streets!

Reading throuh that article the phrase (neither) Arthur or Martha comes to >mind.

Nothing surprising there - the problems with existing facilities have
been talked about a lot over the last couple of years; and the
problems with some staff more recently will have given urgency to
getting started with the building work needed.

It reads as if it is just knee jerking 87 days out from an election. This is >what is driving them at this stage. Win the election and then they will pull >out the hidden plan.

It has been talked about for at least a year - where have you been?

At this stage of the electrol cycle it is customary to wave promises in the >air, which can turn into mandates should the party win. Asof now it appears >if they should win the country will not know what the mandates are,
confusion will be the result.

Absolutely - if you are talking about National; but to be fair to
National they know that they would not have the money to do what
Labour is planning - after all their only policy that goes further
than a headline is to cut the top tax rate - they don't want to talk
about the other side.

Still, this will not be anything that has gone before.

It is a move back to larger facilities for troubled youth, with more
specialist services - Labour wants to fix the problem by turning
troubled youth into responsible and productive citizens; National just
wants to hide them and lock them out of sight. Labour believes in
equal opportunities; National gave that away when Bolger left . . .

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Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 18 Jul 2023 03:43:37 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

On 2023-07-18, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

They must have read your post. you know, the one Rich80105 tried his big >>>distract on. Well it answers his question about who wants to lock up these >>>young pos's. It's his inglorious Labour party! wonder if he's got the e-mail >>>yat :)

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132563946/ministers-commit-to-building-two-new-high-needs-youth-justice-facilities

Guess it finally got through Labours oversized ego that we don't want these >>>young criminals on the streets!

Reading throuh that article the phrase (neither) Arthur or Martha comes to >>mind.

Nothing surprising there - the problems with existing facilities have
been talked about a lot over the last couple of years; and the
problems with some staff more recently will have given urgency to
getting started with the building work needed.

It reads as if it is just knee jerking 87 days out from an election. This is >>what is driving them at this stage. Win the election and then they will pull >>out the hidden plan.

It has been talked about for at least a year - where have you been?

At this stage of the electrol cycle it is customary to wave promises in the >>air, which can turn into mandates should the party win. Asof now it appears >>if they should win the country will not know what the mandates are, >>confusion will be the result.

Absolutely - if you are talking about National; but to be fair to
National they know that they would not have the money to do what
Labour is planning - after all their only policy that goes further
than a headline is to cut the top tax rate - they don't want to talk
about the other side.

Still, this will not be anything that has gone before.

It is a move back to larger facilities for troubled youth, with more >specialist services - Labour wants to fix the problem by turning
troubled youth into responsible and productive citizens; National just
wants to hide them and lock them out of sight. Labour believes in
equal opportunities; National gave that away when Bolger left . . .

What a load of political hogwash Rich, even worse than usual. You just made all of that up.

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