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https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2307/S00005/mongrel-mob-endorses-labour-greens-coalition.htm
No surprise, soft on crime is good for gangs.

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On 2023-07-04, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 20:38:07 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2307/S00005/mongrel-mob-endorses-labour-greens-coalition.htm
No surprise, soft on crime is good for gangs.

What is no surprise is that you should decide not to post a balanced
news report about this political statement, but to post a biased view
from a single political party - your partisan support for National is
all that motivates you.

Once again, it does seen that you are talking about the Government.

Labour have increase the number of police, and
reduce crime by catching more criminals

Nevertheless the crime rate has gone up.

- National think that the
threat of excessive punishment replaces the need for rehabilitation,
and more importantly the alleviation of poverty which is believed by academics to be a prime cause of the attraction of gangs to so many
young people.

Now who are these academics as there has been a great deal of talk in recent times when the universities are full of woke culture.

In contrast, Labour will work towards equal opportunity
for all young people, reducing the attraction of gangs before they
suck the young into crime and drug peddling.

The one concrete policy National have stuck to is dropping the top
tax rate . . . Meanwhile the Greens ... hey and ACT..... and NZ first....

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On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 20:38:07 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2307/S00005/mongrel-mob-endorses-labour-greens-coalition.htm
No surprise, soft on crime is good for gangs.

What is no surprise is that you should decide not to post a balanced
news report about this political statement, but to post a biased view
from a single political party - your partisan support for National is
all that motivates you. Labour have increase the number of police, and
reduce crime by catching more criminals - National think that the
threat of excessive punishment replaces the need for rehabilitation,
and more importantly the alleviation of poverty which is believed by
academics to be a prime cause of the attraction of gangs to so many
young people. In contrast, Labour will work towards equal opportunity
for all young people, reducing the attraction of gangs before they
suck the young into crime and drug peddling. The one concrete policy
National have stuck to is dropping the top tax rate . . .

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Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 20:38:07 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2307/S00005/mongrel-mob-endorses-labour-greens-coalition.htm
No surprise, soft on crime is good for gangs.

What is no surprise is that you should decide not to post a balanced
news report about this political statement, but to post a biased view
from a single political party - your partisan support for National is
all that motivates you. Labour have increase the number of police, and
reduce crime by catching more criminals - National think that the
threat of excessive punishment replaces the need for rehabilitation,
and more importantly the alleviation of poverty which is believed by >academics to be a prime cause of the attraction of gangs to so many
young people. In contrast, Labour will work towards equal opportunity
for all young people, reducing the attraction of gangs before they
suck the young into crime and drug peddling. The one concrete policy
National have stuck to is dropping the top tax rate . . .

Every single word you have written above is a lie. Yes, every single one.
I am not and never have been a National suppporter. I am a hater of this vicious, racist and undemocratic government. And for that reason I will not be voting for them or their comrades.
You claim that I support National as if that is something that is wrong, well if I did support them (and I don't) it would be just like your partisan support of Labour and anything left of them.
So basically you silly old man, it is you that is politically biased, not me. I do admit to a non-political bias, I am a supporter of the truth.
For instance - did you ever manage to google Sweden's abandonbment of net zero? Well did you???

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On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 10:47:48 AM UTC+12, Tony wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 20:38:07 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2307/S00005/mongrel-mob-endorses-labour-greens-coalition.htm
No surprise, soft on crime is good for gangs.

What is no surprise is that you should decide not to post a balanced
news report about this political statement, but to post a biased view
from a single political party - your partisan support for National is
all that motivates you. Labour have increase the number of police, and >reduce crime by catching more criminals - National think that the
threat of excessive punishment replaces the need for rehabilitation,
and more importantly the alleviation of poverty which is believed by >academics to be a prime cause of the attraction of gangs to so many
young people. In contrast, Labour will work towards equal opportunity
for all young people, reducing the attraction of gangs before they
suck the young into crime and drug peddling. The one concrete policy >National have stuck to is dropping the top tax rate . . .

Every single word you have written above is a lie. Yes, every single one.
I am not and never have been a National suppporter. I am a hater of this vicious, racist and undemocratic government. And for that reason I will not be
voting for them or their comrades.
You claim that I support National as if that is something that is wrong, well
if I did support them (and I don't) it would be just like your partisan support
of Labour and anything left of them.
So basically you silly old man, it is you that is politically biased, not me. I
do admit to a non-political bias, I am a supporter of the truth.
For instance - did you ever manage to google Sweden's abandonbment of net zero?
Well did you???

Looking at Labours list of disasters over the last six years you have to wonder at the intelligence of those still blindly supporting Labour. A Labour party that has blatantly lied in their endeavours to coerce NZ into following their demands. A Labour
party that has overseen the dismantling of democracy and creating a division of the races worthy of Boer run South Africa. A Labour party that is without a doubt the worst government in NZ history. I'd go so far as to say Labour voters are all victims of
Labour failed mental health initiative!
The only reason I support National is because they aren't Labour/Green/Porangi!

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On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 9:47:31 AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:

On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 20:38:07 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2307/S00005/mongrel-mob-endorses-labour-greens-coalition.htm
No surprise, soft on crime is good for gangs.

What is no surprise is that you should decide not to post a balanced
news report about this political statement, but to post a biased view
from a single political party - your partisan support for National is
all that motivates you. Labour have increase the number of police, and reduce crime by catching more criminals - National think that the
threat of excessive punishment replaces the need for rehabilitation,
and more importantly the alleviation of poverty which is believed by academics to be a prime cause of the attraction of gangs to so many
young people. In contrast, Labour will work towards equal opportunity
for all young people, reducing the attraction of gangs before they
suck the young into crime and drug peddling. The one concrete policy National have stuck to is dropping the top tax rate . . .

Labour has reduced crime? What utter garbage! Much like the rest of your biased and blatant support of Labour lies!

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On 4 Jul 2023 22:10:45 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

On 2023-07-04, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 20:38:07 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2307/S00005/mongrel-mob-endorses-labour-greens-coalition.htm

No surprise, soft on crime is good for gangs.

What is no surprise is that you should decide not to post a balanced
news report about this political statement, but to post a biased view
from a single political party - your partisan support for National is
all that motivates you.

Once again, it does seen that you are talking about the Government.

Labour have increase the number of police, and
reduce crime by catching more criminals

Nevertheless the crime rate has gone up.

- National think that the
threat of excessive punishment replaces the need for rehabilitation,
and more importantly the alleviation of poverty which is believed by
academics to be a prime cause of the attraction of gangs to so many
young people.

Now who are these academics as there has been a great deal of talk in recent >times when the universities are full of woke culture.

In contrast, Labour will work towards equal opportunity
for all young people, reducing the attraction of gangs before they
suck the young into crime and drug peddling.

The one concrete policy National have stuck to is dropping the top
tax rate . . . Meanwhile the Greens ... hey and ACT..... and NZ first.... and Te Pati Maori . . . in fact almost everyone except National are

going up in the polls - perhaps sue to this sort of thing: http://werewolf.co.nz/2023/06/gordon-campbell-on-nationals-law-and-ordure-policy/

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On Wed, 05 Jul 2023 09:44:58 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:

On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 20:38:07 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2307/S00005/mongrel-mob-endorses-labour-greens-coalition.htm
No surprise, soft on crime is good for gangs.

What is no surprise is that you should decide not to post a balanced
news report about this political statement, but to post a biased view
from a single political party - your partisan support for National is
all that motivates you.

Are you saying that posting a press release from a political party is
not kosher in this ng? What rubbish.

Labour have increase the number of police, and
reduce crime by catching more criminals

Except the post by Tony was about Mongrel Mob endorsement of Labour
and the Greens. You are wandering off-topic because you have nothing
to say about this.

- National think that the
threat of excessive punishment replaces the need for rehabilitation,
and more importantly the alleviation of poverty which is believed by >academics to be a prime cause of the attraction of gangs to so many
young people.

The validity of what you think National is saying about anything would
fit on the back of a postage stamp with plenty of space to spare.

In contrast, Labour will work towards equal opportunity
for all young people, reducing the attraction of gangs before they
suck the young into crime and drug peddling. The one concrete policy
National have stuck to is dropping the top tax rate . . .

After nearly 6 years - you wish. In the meantime any gang-related
meetings will continue to shut down the streets as has happened
recently because after 6 years of Labour government the Police are
either incompetent or not capable of maintaining public order.


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On Wed, 05 Jul 2023 09:44:58 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:

On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 20:38:07 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2307/S00005/mongrel-mob-endorses-labour-greens-coalition.htm
No surprise, soft on crime is good for gangs.

What is no surprise is that you should decide not to post a balanced
news report about this political statement, but to post a biased view
from a single political party - your partisan support for National is
all that motivates you. Labour have increase the number of police, and
reduce crime by catching more criminals - National think that the
threat of excessive punishment replaces the need for rehabilitation,
and more importantly the alleviation of poverty which is believed by >academics to be a prime cause of the attraction of gangs to so many
young people. In contrast, Labour will work towards equal opportunity
for all young people, reducing the attraction of gangs before they
suck the young into crime and drug peddling. The one concrete policy
National have stuck to is dropping the top tax rate . . .

You can't spin your way out of this.

Labour are supported by villains because they themselves are villains.

Anyone could pull you up on every point, but that's not necessary. No
rational person would take the above dissertation seriously.

Bill.

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On Wed, 05 Jul 2023 19:05:35 +1200, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:

On Wed, 05 Jul 2023 09:44:58 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:

On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 20:38:07 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2307/S00005/mongrel-mob-endorses-labour-greens-coalition.htm

No surprise, soft on crime is good for gangs.

What is no surprise is that you should decide not to post a balanced
news report about this political statement, but to post a biased view
from a single political party - your partisan support for National is
all that motivates you. Labour have increase the number of police, and >>reduce crime by catching more criminals - National think that the
threat of excessive punishment replaces the need for rehabilitation,
and more importantly the alleviation of poverty which is believed by >>academics to be a prime cause of the attraction of gangs to so many
young people. In contrast, Labour will work towards equal opportunity
for all young people, reducing the attraction of gangs before they
suck the young into crime and drug peddling. The one concrete policy >>National have stuck to is dropping the top tax rate . . .

You can't spin your way out of this.

Labour are supported by villains because they themselves are villains.

Anyone could pull you up on every point, but that's not necessary. No >rational person would take the above dissertation seriously.

Bill.

I tried - se my earlier post in this thread........;-)


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