On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 11:30:02 PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/28/opinion/donald-trump-presidency-lies.html

Far-right conspiracy theories, fear of the majority "others" - sadly
this disease is common with ACTNat supporters. . . .

Will you stop confusing centerists with far right please Rich! We all know that the only reason you confuse us with that lie is because of how far left you are.

Btw can you point out where Luxon is mentioned in your stupid cite...

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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/28/opinion/donald-trump-presidency-lies.html

Far-right conspiracy theories, fear of the majority "others" - sadly
this disease is common with ACTNat supporters. . . .

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Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/28/opinion/donald-trump-presidency-lies.html

Far-right conspiracy theories, fear of the majority "others" - sadly
this disease is common with ACTNat supporters. . . .

Sadly you are deluded.
There is no far right in National or ACT. To compare them with the Republican Party is beyond lunacy.

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On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 20:43:35 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/28/opinion/donald-trump-presidency-lies.html >>

Far-right conspiracy theories, fear of the majority "others" - sadly
this disease is common with ACTNat supporters. . . .

Sadly you are deluded.
There is no far right in National or ACT. To compare them with the Republican >Party is beyond lunacy.

Equally lunatic is the notion that Rich knows what diseases some
National/ACT supporters have.


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On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 23:27:28 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/28/opinion/donald-trump-presidency-lies.html

Far-right conspiracy theories, fear of the majority "others" - sadly
this disease is common with ACTNat supporters. . . .

All this talk of "far right" and "far left" is as idiotic as the
so-called political compass; the purpose of which seems only to
confuse people.

The only index that makes any kind of sense is a very long line that
puts liberty at one end and tyranny at the other.

Cappiche?

Bill.

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On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 16:26:49 +1200, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:

On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 23:27:28 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/28/opinion/donald-trump-presidency-lies.html >>
Far-right conspiracy theories, fear of the majority "others" - sadly
this disease is common with ACTNat supporters. . . .

All this talk of "far right" and "far left" is as idiotic as the
so-called political compass; the purpose of which seems only to
confuse people.

The only index that makes any kind of sense is a very long line that
puts liberty at one end and tyranny at the other.

Cappiche?

Bill.

There the Political Compass can help you: https://www.politicalcompass.org/nz2020

For liberty you have the Green Party and ACT (both great believers in
Freedom of Speech for example, and at the Authoritarian end NZ First
and National. Labour is less authoritarian but more libertarian than
National.

On the economic front however National and ACT are far-right; Labour
is not as extreme right, and The Green Party is left of centre.

for comparison, see the similar chart for the USA Presidential
candidates in 2020 - Trump is to the right of the National Party,
Biden to the right of Labour and about the same as National - with
both Biden and Trump not being at all libertarian.

I suspect tyranny can exist at either the far right or far left
extreme authoritarianism - it is ironic that the US regards itself as
embracing Liberty when they have such authoritarian structures . . .

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Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 16:26:49 +1200, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:

On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 23:27:28 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/28/opinion/donald-trump-presidency-lies.html >>>

Far-right conspiracy theories, fear of the majority "others" - sadly
this disease is common with ACTNat supporters. . . .

All this talk of "far right" and "far left" is as idiotic as the
so-called political compass; the purpose of which seems only to
confuse people.

The only index that makes any kind of sense is a very long line that
puts liberty at one end and tyranny at the other.

Cappiche?

Bill.

There the Political Compass can help you: >https://www.politicalcompass.org/nz2020

For liberty you have the Green Party and ACT (both great believers in
Freedom of Speech for example, and at the Authoritarian end NZ First
and National. Labour is less authoritarian but more libertarian than >National.

On the economic front however National and ACT are far-right; Labour
is not as extreme right, and The Green Party is left of centre.

for comparison, see the similar chart for the USA Presidential
candidates in 2020 - Trump is to the right of the National Party,
Biden to the right of Labour and about the same as National - with
both Biden and Trump not being at all libertarian.

I suspect tyranny can exist at either the far right or far left
extreme authoritarianism - it is ironic that the US regards itself as >embracing Liberty when they have such authoritarian structures . . .

Nothing to do with the US, which country do you live in. In fact are you actually a human being or an AI bot?

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On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 6:15:17 PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 16:26:49 +1200, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:

On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 23:27:28 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/28/opinion/donald-trump-presidency-lies.html

Far-right conspiracy theories, fear of the majority "others" - sadly >>this disease is common with ACTNat supporters. . . .

All this talk of "far right" and "far left" is as idiotic as the
so-called political compass; the purpose of which seems only to
confuse people.

The only index that makes any kind of sense is a very long line that
puts liberty at one end and tyranny at the other.

Cappiche?

Bill.

There the Political Compass can help you: https://www.politicalcompass.org/nz2020

It can't even help you not look like a feral and demented fool Rich!

For liberty you have the Green Party and ACT (both great believers in Freedom of Speech for example, and at the Authoritarian end NZ First
and National. Labour is less authoritarian but more libertarian than National.

The Green party doesn't believe in freedom of speech! Like you Rich, they only believe people should talk about what the government approves of!
Labour is authoritarian and the mandates prove that!

On the economic front however National and ACT are far-right; Labour
is not as extreme right, and The Green Party is left of centre.

Labour never is right in any stretch of the imagination! No Marxist party is! National is centre with a slight lean to the left.

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On 2023-07-01, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 16:26:49 +1200, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:

On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 23:27:28 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/28/opinion/donald-trump-presidency-lies.html >>>

Far-right conspiracy theories, fear of the majority "others" - sadly
this disease is common with ACTNat supporters. . . .

All this talk of "far right" and "far left" is as idiotic as the
so-called political compass; the purpose of which seems only to
confuse people.

The only index that makes any kind of sense is a very long line that
puts liberty at one end and tyranny at the other.

Cappiche?

Bill.

There the Political Compass can help you: https://www.politicalcompass.org/nz2020

For liberty you have the Green Party and ACT (both great believers in
Freedom of Speech for example, and at the Authoritarian end NZ First
and National. Labour is less authoritarian but more libertarian than National.

On the economic front however National and ACT are far-right; Labour
is not as extreme right, and The Green Party is left of centre.

Economy is is doing will or it is not. Big conclusion as to how it gets to
be left or right. It is the actions of the party/Government which make it
left or right.

Liberty is what we call freedom and less Government. Of course in a society neither can be asolute. Thus freedom of speech is needed so that society can sort out the acceptable areas


Driversion coming up

for comparison, see the similar chart for the USA Presidential
candidates in 2020 - Trump is to the right of the National Party,
Biden to the right of Labour and about the same as National - with
both Biden and Trump not being at all libertarian.

I suspect tyranny can exist at either the far right or far left
extreme authoritarianism - it is ironic that the US regards itself as embracing Liberty when they have such authoritarian structures . . .

Not the Democrats are not embracing liberty. (Off topic, sorry)

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