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  • A tale of two hypocrites

    From JohnO@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 26 14:13:55 2023
    It's a "climate emergency".

    Luxon family buys a Tesla. You'd think that would be applauded. Luxon family claims rebate despite opposition to policy.

    Chippie flies a delegation to China in an old, inefficient B757 with a second one flying as a backup in case the first one falls over. He could have flown everyone commercially in a fuel efficient modern aircraft at a fraction of the cost and emissions.

    Which one is the real hypocrite?

    Which story had the most coverage in the MSM?

    $55mil gets you a lot of sympathetic media coverage and your opposition a lot of media criticism.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 27 11:07:45 2023
    On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 14:13:55 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    It's a "climate emergency".

    Luxon family buys a Tesla. You'd think that would be applauded. Luxon family claims rebate despite opposition to policy.

    He did get quite a bit of credit for supporting the policy - but a bit
    of derision for his complaints about it!

    Chippie flies a delegation to China in an old, inefficient B757 with a second one flying as a backup in case the first one falls over. He could have flown everyone commercially in a fuel efficient modern aircraft at a fraction of the cost and emissions.

    Which one is the real hypocrite?
    Luxon - He knows the importance of the visit to China, and that the
    care taken to ensure they are on time will be noticed and appreciated
    by China. He should also know that, just as in Education and Health,
    National talks big about Police and Defence, but when in office
    starves them of funds (and spends more on prisons). He should know
    that the replacement of the Air Force planes is being done as part of
    planned spending to upgrade a lot of Defence capability - with
    priorities relating to Defence rather than a leader's ego.

    John Key was seen as a ''man of the people'' by carefully arranged ''walk-abouts'' so that he could be seen to be a normal person - "Me
    First" Luxon ordered a crown limousine to travel 200 metres for his
    first appearance at Parliament as a minor party leader . . .

    Which story had the most coverage in the MSM?
    The visit to China - much more important than all the rest.

    $55mil gets you a lot of sympathetic media coverage and your opposition a lot of media criticism.
    What are you talking about?

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to johno1234@gmail.com on Tue Jun 27 02:01:12 2023
    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 June 2023 at 11:09:24 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 14:13:55 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    It's a "climate emergency".

    Luxon family buys a Tesla. You'd think that would be applauded. Luxon
    family claims rebate despite opposition to policy.
    He did get quite a bit of credit for supporting the policy - but a bit
    of derision for his complaints about it!
    Chippie flies a delegation to China in an old, inefficient B757 with a
    second one flying as a backup in case the first one falls over. He could have
    flown everyone commercially in a fuel efficient modern aircraft at a fraction
    of the cost and emissions.

    Which one is the real hypocrite?
    Luxon - He knows the importance of the visit to China, and that the
    care taken to ensure they are on time will be noticed and appreciated
    by China. He should also know that, just as in Education and Health,
    National talks big about Police and Defence, but when in office
    starves them of funds (and spends more on prisons). He should know
    that the replacement of the Air Force planes is being done as part of
    planned spending to upgrade a lot of Defence capability - with
    priorities relating to Defence rather than a leader's ego.

    John Key was seen as a ''man of the people'' by carefully arranged
    ''walk-abouts'' so that he could be seen to be a normal person - "Me
    First" Luxon ordered a crown limousine to travel 200 metres for his
    first appearance at Parliament as a minor party leader . . .

    Which story had the most coverage in the MSM?
    The visit to China - much more important than all the rest.

    The visit to China was neither of the stories, Dumbo. Luxon Tesla, Hipkins >Boeings. Luxon Tesla, Hipkins Boeings. Got it yet or just too thick to >understand?
    He is too thick to acknowledge his lies when the rest of his tiny world knows he is lying.

    $55mil gets you a lot of sympathetic media coverage and your opposition a >> >lot of media criticism.
    What are you talking about?

    We already know you are dumb, Dickbot, no need to shout it from the rooftops. He is such a laugh eh, half way to being witty.

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  • From JohnO@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 26 18:42:12 2023
    On Tuesday, 27 June 2023 at 11:09:24 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 14:13:55 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    It's a "climate emergency".

    Luxon family buys a Tesla. You'd think that would be applauded. Luxon family claims rebate despite opposition to policy.
    He did get quite a bit of credit for supporting the policy - but a bit
    of derision for his complaints about it!
    Chippie flies a delegation to China in an old, inefficient B757 with a second one flying as a backup in case the first one falls over. He could have flown everyone commercially in a fuel efficient modern aircraft at a fraction of the cost and
    emissions.

    Which one is the real hypocrite?
    Luxon - He knows the importance of the visit to China, and that the
    care taken to ensure they are on time will be noticed and appreciated
    by China. He should also know that, just as in Education and Health, National talks big about Police and Defence, but when in office
    starves them of funds (and spends more on prisons). He should know
    that the replacement of the Air Force planes is being done as part of planned spending to upgrade a lot of Defence capability - with
    priorities relating to Defence rather than a leader's ego.

    John Key was seen as a ''man of the people'' by carefully arranged ''walk-abouts'' so that he could be seen to be a normal person - "Me
    First" Luxon ordered a crown limousine to travel 200 metres for his
    first appearance at Parliament as a minor party leader . . .

    Which story had the most coverage in the MSM?
    The visit to China - much more important than all the rest.

    The visit to China was neither of the stories, Dumbo. Luxon Tesla, Hipkins Boeings. Luxon Tesla, Hipkins Boeings. Got it yet or just too thick to understand?

    $55mil gets you a lot of sympathetic media coverage and your opposition a lot of media criticism.
    What are you talking about?

    We already know you are dumb, Dickbot, no need to shout it from the rooftops.

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to JohnO on Tue Jun 27 02:43:29 2023
    On 2023-06-26, JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    It's a "climate emergency".

    Luxon family buys a Tesla. You'd think that would be applauded. Luxon family claims rebate despite opposition to policy.

    Chippie flies a delegation to China in an old, inefficient B757 with a second one flying as a backup in case the first one falls over. He could have flown everyone commercially in a fuel efficient modern aircraft at a fraction of the cost and emissions.

    Which one is the real hypocrite?

    Okay so the Goverment does this deal with NZ Steel to save x tones of CO2 by going to electric furnaces.

    It then decides to "private" fly to China, but it not sure that the 30 year
    old B757 will be able to make it, after all doing the 7 previous legs
    without incident was a surprise. So it needs another plane as back up in
    case the first one fails. So now we have two planes powering out CO2 worse
    than the private jet folks.

    That is pure hypocritical, top level on the scale.

    As the article says that this issuse needs to be fixed. A poly partisan approach is needed. All agree on a plane the $ to buy and fit out and then inform the people. Heads of countries do need their own plane. Leaving aside the matter of CO2 production.

    This is another matter where all the MP need to be adult and set aside the politics.





    Which story had the most coverage in the MSM?

    $55mil gets you a lot of sympathetic media coverage and your opposition a lot of media criticism.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Tony on Mon Jun 26 19:27:08 2023
    On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 2:01:14 PM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 June 2023 at 11:09:24 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 14:13:55 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    It's a "climate emergency".

    Luxon family buys a Tesla. You'd think that would be applauded. Luxon
    family claims rebate despite opposition to policy.
    He did get quite a bit of credit for supporting the policy - but a bit
    of derision for his complaints about it!
    Chippie flies a delegation to China in an old, inefficient B757 with a >> >second one flying as a backup in case the first one falls over. He could have
    flown everyone commercially in a fuel efficient modern aircraft at a fraction
    of the cost and emissions.

    Which one is the real hypocrite?
    Luxon - He knows the importance of the visit to China, and that the
    care taken to ensure they are on time will be noticed and appreciated
    by China. He should also know that, just as in Education and Health,
    National talks big about Police and Defence, but when in office
    starves them of funds (and spends more on prisons). He should know
    that the replacement of the Air Force planes is being done as part of
    planned spending to upgrade a lot of Defence capability - with
    priorities relating to Defence rather than a leader's ego.

    John Key was seen as a ''man of the people'' by carefully arranged
    ''walk-abouts'' so that he could be seen to be a normal person - "Me
    First" Luxon ordered a crown limousine to travel 200 metres for his
    first appearance at Parliament as a minor party leader . . .

    Which story had the most coverage in the MSM?
    The visit to China - much more important than all the rest.

    The visit to China was neither of the stories, Dumbo. Luxon Tesla, Hipkins >Boeings. Luxon Tesla, Hipkins Boeings. Got it yet or just too thick to >understand?
    He is too thick to acknowledge his lies when the rest of his tiny world knows
    he is lying.

    $55mil gets you a lot of sympathetic media coverage and your opposition a
    lot of media criticism.
    What are you talking about?

    We already know you are dumb, Dickbot, no need to shout it from the rooftops.
    He is such a laugh eh, half way to being witty.

    Considering how often Rich can't remember being corrected about his lies makes me wonder if he(?) isn't just a very early chatbot...

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