It seems that National are spending so much time on getting inWhat nonsense. The government is letting crime, especially violent crime, run riot, National want to fix that.
election spending before the restricted election period that they are
not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of
sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care about
- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it
bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are paying
them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/
https://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
It seems that National are spending so much time on getting in
election spending before the restricted election period that they are
not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of >sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care about
- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it
bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are paying
them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
It's just Rich getting in as much political posturing as possible for the next 110 days when his inglorious and mol lacking Labour/Green/Porangi coalition of chaos get consigned to the sewer of history where they belong...https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/
https://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/What nonsense. The government is letting crime, especially violent crime, run
riot, National want to fix that.
Whatever it costs will be nothing compared to what this government has wasted
over the past 5+ years.
Fascism is laughable, of course National are not inclined that way, just as Labour just barely manage to escape the description of marxist.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
It seems that National are spending so much time on getting inWhat nonsense. The government is letting crime, especially violent crime, run riot, National want to fix that.
election spending before the restricted election period that they are
not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of
sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care about
- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it
bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are paying
them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/
https://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/
Whatever it costs will be nothing compared to what this government has wasted over the past 5+ years.
Fascism is laughable, of course National are not inclined that way, just as Labour just barely manage to escape the description of marxist.
It seems that National are spending so much time on getting inRich you need to be careful around the rabbit hole that is thestranded it's just a dispenser of disinformation like the disinformation project with Labour funding!!
election spending before the restricted election period that they are
not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of
sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care about
- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it
bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are paying
them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/
https://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/
It seems that National are spending so much time on getting in
election spending before the restricted election period that they are
not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of
sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care about
- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it
bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are paying
them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/
https://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:11:02 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>Fair call Crash; I was thinking that the three National MPs that were
wrote:
It seems that National are spending so much time on getting in
election spending before the restricted election period that they are
not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of
sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care about
- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it
bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are paying
them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/
https://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/
"Not re-elected"? How illustrative of the muddled thinking your post >reveals. Only governments are re-elected. National are not the
current (or previous) government.
National have promised to repeal the water reforms legislation that
Labour have enacted.
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:43:06 +1200, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:11:02 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
It seems that National are spending so much time on getting in
election spending before the restricted election period that they are >>not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of >>sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care about
- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it
bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are paying >>them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/ >> >>https://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/
"Not re-elected"? How illustrative of the muddled thinking your post >reveals. Only governments are re-elected. National are not theFair call Crash; I was thinking that the three National MPs that were
current (or previous) government.
not aware that their new policy had recently been announced by Labour
should leave Parliament. Pre-MMP thinking, although Luxon may well go shortly after the election when ACT/Nat miss getting enough votes to
form a government . . .
What utter garbage! Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the real traty. It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed translation of the treaty. Which is a contract Rich is quite happy to trash because it can't support Labours racist attack onNational have promised to repeal the water reforms legislation thatThat is a different issue, but it fits with another of the National
Labour have enacted.
rabbit holes - their inherent racism is blinding them to the need to
fulfil Treaty commitments; past National governments have been fairly
good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual obligations
. . .
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:30:51?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:Try this for an example of an MP that just doesn't care: https://twitter.com/rugbyintel/status/1672822657308590080
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:43:06 +1200, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:11:02 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>Fair call Crash; I was thinking that the three National MPs that were
wrote:
It seems that National are spending so much time on getting in
election spending before the restricted election period that they are
not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of
sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care about
- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it
bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are paying
them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/ >> >>
https://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/
"Not re-elected"? How illustrative of the muddled thinking your post
reveals. Only governments are re-elected. National are not the
current (or previous) government.
not aware that their new policy had recently been announced by Labour
should leave Parliament. Pre-MMP thinking, although Luxon may well go
shortly after the election when ACT/Nat miss getting enough votes to
form a government . . .
How about all the Labour MPs who don't seem to know what any of Labours legislation is about Rich?
You're still delusional about Labours chances of getting the coalition of chaos up and running aren't guaranteed by a long shot. Especially now that they've turned 3 waters into 10 waters and made it an even bigger piece of garbage than it wasoriginally.
hopefully the number seeing what a chaotic and useless government we have at present will grow enough to see them on the scrap heap where they belong come October.democracy!
What utter garbage! Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the real traty. It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed translation of the treaty. Which is a contract Rich is quite happy to trash because it can't support Labours racist attack onNational have promised to repeal the water reforms legislation thatThat is a different issue, but it fits with another of the National
Labour have enacted.
rabbit holes - their inherent racism is blinding them to the need to
fulfil Treaty commitments; past National governments have been fairly
good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual obligations
. . .
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:27:27 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:30:51?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:43:06 +1200, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:11:02 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>Fair call Crash; I was thinking that the three National MPs that were
wrote:
It seems that National are spending so much time on getting in
election spending before the restricted election period that they are >> >>not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of
sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care about >> >>- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it
bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are paying >> >>them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/
https://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/
"Not re-elected"? How illustrative of the muddled thinking your post
reveals. Only governments are re-elected. National are not the
current (or previous) government.
not aware that their new policy had recently been announced by Labour
should leave Parliament. Pre-MMP thinking, although Luxon may well go
shortly after the election when ACT/Nat miss getting enough votes to
form a government . . .
How about all the Labour MPs who don't seem to know what any of Labours legislation is about Rich?Try this for an example of an MP that just doesn't care: https://twitter.com/rugbyintel/status/1672822657308590080
originally.You're still delusional about Labours chances of getting the coalition of chaos up and running aren't guaranteed by a long shot. Especially now that they've turned 3 waters into 10 waters and made it an even bigger piece of garbage than it was
on democracy!hopefully the number seeing what a chaotic and useless government we have at present will grow enough to see them on the scrap heap where they belong come October.
What utter garbage! Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the real traty. It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed translation of the treaty. Which is a contract Rich is quite happy to trash because it can't support Labours racist attackNational have promised to repeal the water reforms legislation thatThat is a different issue, but it fits with another of the National
Labour have enacted.
rabbit holes - their inherent racism is blinding them to the need to
fulfil Treaty commitments; past National governments have been fairly
good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual obligations
. . .
You have been corrected on this a number of times - see if you can forYou have told lies about it Rich! I AM correct! YOU continue to lie about the bullshit translation being used by Labour to fuck democracy and NZ!
once find proof to support your assertion.
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:43:06 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:11:02 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:Fair call Crash; I was thinking that the three National MPs that were
It seems that National are spending so much time on getting in
election spending before the restricted election period that they are
not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of >>>sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care about
- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it
bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are paying >>>them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/ >>> >>>https://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/
"Not re-elected"? How illustrative of the muddled thinking your post >>reveals. Only governments are re-elected. National are not the
current (or previous) government.
not aware that their new policy had recently been announced by Labour
should leave Parliament. Pre-MMP thinking, although Luxon may well go
shortly after the election when ACT/Nat miss getting enough votes to
form a government . . .
National have promised to repeal the water reforms legislation that
Labour have enacted.
That is a different issue, but it fits with another of the National
rabbit holes - their inherent racism is blinding them to the need to
fulfil Treaty commitments; past National governments have been fairly
good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual obligations
. . .
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 12:28:53?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:originally.
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:27:27 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:30:51?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:Try this for an example of an MP that just doesn't care:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:43:06 +1200, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:11:02 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>Fair call Crash; I was thinking that the three National MPs that were
wrote:
It seems that National are spending so much time on getting in
election spending before the restricted election period that they are >> >> >>not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of
sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care about >> >> >>- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it
bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are paying >> >> >>them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/
https://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/
"Not re-elected"? How illustrative of the muddled thinking your post
reveals. Only governments are re-elected. National are not the
current (or previous) government.
not aware that their new policy had recently been announced by Labour
should leave Parliament. Pre-MMP thinking, although Luxon may well go
shortly after the election when ACT/Nat miss getting enough votes to
form a government . . .
How about all the Labour MPs who don't seem to know what any of Labours legislation is about Rich?
https://twitter.com/rugbyintel/status/1672822657308590080
You're obviously thinking of the delusional lying Ginny Anderson!
You're still delusional about Labours chances of getting the coalition of chaos up and running aren't guaranteed by a long shot. Especially now that they've turned 3 waters into 10 waters and made it an even bigger piece of garbage than it was
on democracy!hopefully the number seeing what a chaotic and useless government we have at present will grow enough to see them on the scrap heap where they belong come October.
What utter garbage! Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the real traty. It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed translation of the treaty. Which is a contract Rich is quite happy to trash because it can't support Labours racist attackNational have promised to repeal the water reforms legislation thatThat is a different issue, but it fits with another of the National
Labour have enacted.
rabbit holes - their inherent racism is blinding them to the need to
fulfil Treaty commitments; past National governments have been fairly
good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual obligations
. . .
You have been corrected on this a number of times - see if you can forYou have told lies about it Rich! I AM correct! YOU continue to lie about the bullshit translation being used by Labour to fuck democracy and NZ!
once find proof to support your assertion.
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:25:22 -0700 (PDT), John BowesActually old bean - it is for you to show that your treaty is the real one. Until you do so I believe the first traty is always going to be the only one that matters since there have been no ammendments.
<bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 12:28:53?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:27:27 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:30:51?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:Try this for an example of an MP that just doesn't care:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:43:06 +1200, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>> >> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:11:02 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>Fair call Crash; I was thinking that the three National MPs that were >>> >> not aware that their new policy had recently been announced by Labour >>> >> should leave Parliament. Pre-MMP thinking, although Luxon may well go >>> >> shortly after the election when ACT/Nat miss getting enough votes to
wrote:
It seems that National are spending so much time on getting in
election spending before the restricted election period that they are >>> >> >>not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of
sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care about >>> >> >>- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it
bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are paying >>> >> >>them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/
https://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/
"Not re-elected"? How illustrative of the muddled thinking your post >>> >> >reveals. Only governments are re-elected. National are not the
current (or previous) government.
form a government . . .
How about all the Labour MPs who don't seem to know what any of Labours >>> >legislation is about Rich?
https://twitter.com/rugbyintel/status/1672822657308590080
You're obviously thinking of the delusional lying Ginny Anderson!
You have told lies about it Rich! I AM correct! YOU continue to lie about the >>bullshit translation being used by Labour to fuck democracy and NZ!You're still delusional about Labours chances of getting the coalition of >>> >chaos up and running aren't guaranteed by a long shot. Especially now that >>> >they've turned 3 waters into 10 waters and made it an even bigger piece of >>> >garbage than it was originally.You have been corrected on this a number of times - see if you can for
hopefully the number seeing what a chaotic and useless government we have >>> >at present will grow enough to see them on the scrap heap where they belong
come October.
What utter garbage! Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the real traty. >>> >It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed translation of the >>> >treaty. Which is a contract Rich is quite happy to trash because it can't >>> >support Labours racist attack on democracy!National have promised to repeal the water reforms legislation thatThat is a different issue, but it fits with another of the National
Labour have enacted.
rabbit holes - their inherent racism is blinding them to the need to
fulfil Treaty commitments; past National governments have been fairly >>> >> good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual obligations >>> >> . . .
once find proof to support your assertion.
So give the proof . . . . . .
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Rich is little better than an oxygen thief and creator of greenhouse gasses that he loves bitching about. The slimy toad ain't worth a bucket of shit!
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:25:22 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 12:28:53?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:27:27 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:30:51?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:Try this for an example of an MP that just doesn't care:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:43:06 +1200, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>> >> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:11:02 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>> >> >wrote:Fair call Crash; I was thinking that the three National MPs that were >>> >> not aware that their new policy had recently been announced by Labour >>> >> should leave Parliament. Pre-MMP thinking, although Luxon may well go >>> >> shortly after the election when ACT/Nat miss getting enough votes to >>> >> form a government . . .
It seems that National are spending so much time on getting in
election spending before the restricted election period that they are
not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of >>> >> >>sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care about
- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it
bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are paying
them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/
https://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/
"Not re-elected"? How illustrative of the muddled thinking your post >>> >> >reveals. Only governments are re-elected. National are not the
current (or previous) government.
How about all the Labour MPs who don't seem to know what any of Labours >>> >legislation is about Rich?
https://twitter.com/rugbyintel/status/1672822657308590080
You're obviously thinking of the delusional lying Ginny Anderson!
You have told lies about it Rich! I AM correct! YOU continue to lie about theYou're still delusional about Labours chances of getting the coalition ofYou have been corrected on this a number of times - see if you can for >>> once find proof to support your assertion.
chaos up and running aren't guaranteed by a long shot. Especially now that
they've turned 3 waters into 10 waters and made it an even bigger piece of
garbage than it was originally.
hopefully the number seeing what a chaotic and useless government we have
at present will grow enough to see them on the scrap heap where they belong
come October.
What utter garbage! Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the real traty.National have promised to repeal the water reforms legislation that >>> >> >Labour have enacted.That is a different issue, but it fits with another of the National >>> >> rabbit holes - their inherent racism is blinding them to the need to >>> >> fulfil Treaty commitments; past National governments have been fairly >>> >> good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual obligations >>> >> . . .
It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed translation of the
treaty. Which is a contract Rich is quite happy to trash because it can't
support Labours racist attack on democracy!
bullshit translation being used by Labour to fuck democracy and NZ!
So give the proof . . . . . .Actually old bean - it is for you to show that your treaty is the real one. Until you do so I believe the first traty is always going to be the only one that matters since there have been no ammendments.
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:25:22 -0700 (PDT), John Bowesoriginally.
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 12:28:53?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:27:27 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:30:51?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:Try this for an example of an MP that just doesn't care:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:43:06 +1200, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >> >> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:11:02 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >> >> >wrote:Fair call Crash; I was thinking that the three National MPs that were >> >> not aware that their new policy had recently been announced by Labour >> >> should leave Parliament. Pre-MMP thinking, although Luxon may well go >> >> shortly after the election when ACT/Nat miss getting enough votes to >> >> form a government . . .
It seems that National are spending so much time on getting in
election spending before the restricted election period that they are
not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of
sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care about
- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it
bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are paying
them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/
https://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/
"Not re-elected"? How illustrative of the muddled thinking your post >> >> >reveals. Only governments are re-elected. National are not the
current (or previous) government.
How about all the Labour MPs who don't seem to know what any of Labours legislation is about Rich?
https://twitter.com/rugbyintel/status/1672822657308590080
You're obviously thinking of the delusional lying Ginny Anderson!
You're still delusional about Labours chances of getting the coalition of chaos up and running aren't guaranteed by a long shot. Especially now that they've turned 3 waters into 10 waters and made it an even bigger piece of garbage than it was
attack on democracy!hopefully the number seeing what a chaotic and useless government we have at present will grow enough to see them on the scrap heap where they belong come October.
What utter garbage! Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the real traty. It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed translation of the treaty. Which is a contract Rich is quite happy to trash because it can't support Labours racistNational have promised to repeal the water reforms legislation that >> >> >Labour have enacted.That is a different issue, but it fits with another of the National
rabbit holes - their inherent racism is blinding them to the need to >> >> fulfil Treaty commitments; past National governments have been fairly >> >> good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual obligations >> >> . . .
I have on several occasions Rich! If you want proof get your sorry arse down to the National (oops that'll put you off going) library where you can see the bloody treaty!So give the proof . . . . . .You have been corrected on this a number of times - see if you can forYou have told lies about it Rich! I AM correct! YOU continue to lie about the bullshit translation being used by Labour to fuck democracy and NZ!
once find proof to support your assertion.
On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 04:45:20 -0000 (UTC), TonyUtter crap so typical of lying feral bastards like you Rich!
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:It is not my Treaty - it belongs to all of us.
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:25:22 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:Actually old bean - it is for you to show that your treaty is the real one. >Until you do so I believe the first traty is always going to be the only one
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 12:28:53?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:27:27 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:30:51?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:Try this for an example of an MP that just doesn't care:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:43:06 +1200, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:11:02 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>> >> >wrote:Fair call Crash; I was thinking that the three National MPs that were
It seems that National are spending so much time on getting in >>>> >> >>election spending before the restricted election period that they are
not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of >>>> >> >>sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care about
- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it >>>> >> >>bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are paying
them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/
https://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/
"Not re-elected"? How illustrative of the muddled thinking your post
reveals. Only governments are re-elected. National are not the
current (or previous) government.
not aware that their new policy had recently been announced by Labour
should leave Parliament. Pre-MMP thinking, although Luxon may well go
shortly after the election when ACT/Nat miss getting enough votes to >>>> >> form a government . . .
How about all the Labour MPs who don't seem to know what any of Labours
legislation is about Rich?
https://twitter.com/rugbyintel/status/1672822657308590080
You're obviously thinking of the delusional lying Ginny Anderson!
You have told lies about it Rich! I AM correct! YOU continue to lie about theYou're still delusional about Labours chances of getting the coalition ofYou have been corrected on this a number of times - see if you can for >>>> once find proof to support your assertion.
chaos up and running aren't guaranteed by a long shot. Especially now that
they've turned 3 waters into 10 waters and made it an even bigger piece of
garbage than it was originally.
hopefully the number seeing what a chaotic and useless government we have
at present will grow enough to see them on the scrap heap where they belong
come October.
What utter garbage! Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the real traty.National have promised to repeal the water reforms legislation that >>>> >> >Labour have enacted.That is a different issue, but it fits with another of the National >>>> >> rabbit holes - their inherent racism is blinding them to the need to >>>> >> fulfil Treaty commitments; past National governments have been fairly
good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual obligations
. . .
It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed translation of the
treaty. Which is a contract Rich is quite happy to trash because it can't
support Labours racist attack on democracy!
bullshit translation being used by Labour to fuck democracy and NZ!
So give the proof . . . . . .
that matters since there have been no ammendments.
JohnB responded to my saying that past National governments have been
fairly good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual
obligations by claiming that "Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the
real treaty. It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed translation of the treaty. "
You appear to support my view that the version of the Treaty that isYour stupid diversion doesn't change the fact the Treaty the government is supposedly honouring isn't the original treaty but a bullshit translation! Go have a look at the Treaty you dumb, feral troll!
used by our courts is the original Treaty signed by Maori - nothing to
do with the translations. The obligations our government have are to
meet the principles of that version, and while John B may believe they
can be ignored, both Labour and National governments have endeavoured
to meet those commitments.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:25:22 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:Actually old bean - it is for you to show that your treaty is the real one. >Until you do so I believe the first traty is always going to be the only one >that matters since there have been no ammendments.
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 12:28:53?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:27:27 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:30:51?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:Try this for an example of an MP that just doesn't care:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:43:06 +1200, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>>> >> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:11:02 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>> >> >wrote:Fair call Crash; I was thinking that the three National MPs that were >>>> >> not aware that their new policy had recently been announced by Labour >>>> >> should leave Parliament. Pre-MMP thinking, although Luxon may well go >>>> >> shortly after the election when ACT/Nat miss getting enough votes to >>>> >> form a government . . .
It seems that National are spending so much time on getting in
election spending before the restricted election period that they are >>>> >> >>not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of
sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care about
- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it
bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are paying >>>> >> >>them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/
https://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/
"Not re-elected"? How illustrative of the muddled thinking your post >>>> >> >reveals. Only governments are re-elected. National are not the
current (or previous) government.
How about all the Labour MPs who don't seem to know what any of Labours >>>> >legislation is about Rich?
https://twitter.com/rugbyintel/status/1672822657308590080
You're obviously thinking of the delusional lying Ginny Anderson!
You have told lies about it Rich! I AM correct! YOU continue to lie about theYou're still delusional about Labours chances of getting the coalition of >>>> >chaos up and running aren't guaranteed by a long shot. Especially now thatYou have been corrected on this a number of times - see if you can for >>>> once find proof to support your assertion.
they've turned 3 waters into 10 waters and made it an even bigger piece of
garbage than it was originally.
hopefully the number seeing what a chaotic and useless government we have >>>> >at present will grow enough to see them on the scrap heap where they belong
come October.
What utter garbage! Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the real traty. >>>> >It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed translation of the >>>> >treaty. Which is a contract Rich is quite happy to trash because it can't >>>> >support Labours racist attack on democracy!National have promised to repeal the water reforms legislation that >>>> >> >Labour have enacted.That is a different issue, but it fits with another of the National >>>> >> rabbit holes - their inherent racism is blinding them to the need to >>>> >> fulfil Treaty commitments; past National governments have been fairly >>>> >> good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual obligations >>>> >> . . .
bullshit translation being used by Labour to fuck democracy and NZ!
So give the proof . . . . . .
On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 04:45:20 -0000 (UTC), TonyYour treaty is no my treaty.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:25:22 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:Actually old bean - it is for you to show that your treaty is the real one. >>Until you do so I believe the first traty is always going to be the only one >>that matters since there have been no ammendments.
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 12:28:53?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:27:27 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:30:51?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:Try this for an example of an MP that just doesn't care:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:43:06 +1200, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>>>> >> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:11:02 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>>> >> >wrote:
It seems that National are spending so much time on getting in
election spending before the restricted election period that they >>>>> >> >>are
not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of >>>>> >> >>sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care >>>>> >> >>about
- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it >>>>> >> >>bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are
paying
them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/
Fair call Crash; I was thinking that the three National MPs that were >>>>> >> not aware that their new policy had recently been announced by Labour >>>>> >> should leave Parliament. Pre-MMP thinking, although Luxon may well go >>>>> >> shortly after the election when ACT/Nat miss getting enough votes to >>>>> >> form a government . . .https://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/
"Not re-elected"? How illustrative of the muddled thinking your post >>>>> >> >reveals. Only governments are re-elected. National are not the
current (or previous) government.
How about all the Labour MPs who don't seem to know what any of Labours >>>>> >legislation is about Rich?
https://twitter.com/rugbyintel/status/1672822657308590080
You're obviously thinking of the delusional lying Ginny Anderson!
You have told lies about it Rich! I AM correct! YOU continue to lie about >>>>theYou're still delusional about Labours chances of getting the coalition >>>>> >ofYou have been corrected on this a number of times - see if you can for >>>>> once find proof to support your assertion.
chaos up and running aren't guaranteed by a long shot. Especially now >>>>> >that
they've turned 3 waters into 10 waters and made it an even bigger piece >>>>> >of
garbage than it was originally.
hopefully the number seeing what a chaotic and useless government we >>>>> >have
at present will grow enough to see them on the scrap heap where they >>>>> >belong
come October.
What utter garbage! Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the real traty. >>>>> >It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed translation of >>>>> >theNational have promised to repeal the water reforms legislation that >>>>> >> >Labour have enacted.That is a different issue, but it fits with another of the National >>>>> >> rabbit holes - their inherent racism is blinding them to the need to >>>>> >> fulfil Treaty commitments; past National governments have been fairly >>>>> >> good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual obligations >>>>> >> . . .
treaty. Which is a contract Rich is quite happy to trash because it >>>>> >can't
support Labours racist attack on democracy!
bullshit translation being used by Labour to fuck democracy and NZ!
So give the proof . . . . . .
It is not my Treaty - it belongs to all of us.
JohnB responded to my saying that past National governments have beenIrrelevant.
fairly good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual
obligations by claiming that "Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the
real treaty. It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed >translation of the treaty. "
You appear to support my view that the version of the Treaty that is
used by our courts is the original Treaty signed by Maori - nothing to
do with the translations. The obligations our government have are to
meet the principles of that version, and while John B may believe they
can be ignored, both Labour and National governments have endeavoured
to meet those commitments.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Exactly - not a translation as John Bowes asserts, but the original
On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 04:45:20 -0000 (UTC), TonyYour treaty is no my treaty.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:25:22 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:Actually old bean - it is for you to show that your treaty is the real one. >>>Until you do so I believe the first traty is always going to be the only one >>>that matters since there have been no ammendments.
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 12:28:53?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:27:27 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:30:51?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:Try this for an example of an MP that just doesn't care:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:43:06 +1200, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>> >> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:11:02 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>>>> >> >wrote:
It seems that National are spending so much time on getting in >>>>>> >> >>election spending before the restricted election period that they >>>>>> >> >>are
not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of >>>>>> >> >>sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care >>>>>> >> >>about
- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it >>>>>> >> >>bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are >>>>>> >> >>paying
them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/
Fair call Crash; I was thinking that the three National MPs that were >>>>>> >> not aware that their new policy had recently been announced by Labour >>>>>> >> should leave Parliament. Pre-MMP thinking, although Luxon may well go >>>>>> >> shortly after the election when ACT/Nat miss getting enough votes to >>>>>> >> form a government . . .https://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/
"Not re-elected"? How illustrative of the muddled thinking your post >>>>>> >> >reveals. Only governments are re-elected. National are not the >>>>>> >> >current (or previous) government.
How about all the Labour MPs who don't seem to know what any of Labours >>>>>> >legislation is about Rich?
https://twitter.com/rugbyintel/status/1672822657308590080
You're obviously thinking of the delusional lying Ginny Anderson!
You have told lies about it Rich! I AM correct! YOU continue to lie about >>>>>theYou're still delusional about Labours chances of getting the coalition >>>>>> >ofYou have been corrected on this a number of times - see if you can for >>>>>> once find proof to support your assertion.
chaos up and running aren't guaranteed by a long shot. Especially now >>>>>> >that
they've turned 3 waters into 10 waters and made it an even bigger piece >>>>>> >of
garbage than it was originally.
hopefully the number seeing what a chaotic and useless government we >>>>>> >have
at present will grow enough to see them on the scrap heap where they >>>>>> >belong
come October.
What utter garbage! Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the real traty.National have promised to repeal the water reforms legislation that >>>>>> >> >Labour have enacted.That is a different issue, but it fits with another of the National >>>>>> >> rabbit holes - their inherent racism is blinding them to the need to >>>>>> >> fulfil Treaty commitments; past National governments have been fairly >>>>>> >> good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual obligations >>>>>> >> . . .
It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed translation of >>>>>> >the
treaty. Which is a contract Rich is quite happy to trash because it >>>>>> >can't
support Labours racist attack on democracy!
bullshit translation being used by Labour to fuck democracy and NZ!
So give the proof . . . . . .
It is not my Treaty - it belongs to all of us.
Mine is the original one - no other.
Yours is yet to be shown as valid.
Irrelevant.
JohnB responded to my saying that past National governments have been >>fairly good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual >>obligations by claiming that "Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the
real treaty. It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed >>translation of the treaty. "
You appear to support my view that the version of the Treaty that is
used by our courts is the original Treaty signed by Maori - nothing to
do with the translations. The obligations our government have are to
meet the principles of that version, and while John B may believe they
can be ignored, both Labour and National governments have endeavoured
to meet those commitments.
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:25:22 -0700 (PDT), John Bowesoriginally.
<bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 12:28:53?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:27:27 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:30:51?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:Try this for an example of an MP that just doesn't care:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:43:06 +1200, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>> >> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:11:02 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>Fair call Crash; I was thinking that the three National MPs that were >>> >> not aware that their new policy had recently been announced by Labour >>> >> should leave Parliament. Pre-MMP thinking, although Luxon may well go >>> >> shortly after the election when ACT/Nat miss getting enough votes to
wrote:
It seems that National are spending so much time on getting in
election spending before the restricted election period that they are >>> >> >>not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of
sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care about >>> >> >>- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it
bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are paying >>> >> >>them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/
https://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/
"Not re-elected"? How illustrative of the muddled thinking your post >>> >> >reveals. Only governments are re-elected. National are not the
current (or previous) government.
form a government . . .
How about all the Labour MPs who don't seem to know what any of Labours legislation is about Rich?
https://twitter.com/rugbyintel/status/1672822657308590080
You're obviously thinking of the delusional lying Ginny Anderson!
You're still delusional about Labours chances of getting the coalition of chaos up and running aren't guaranteed by a long shot. Especially now that they've turned 3 waters into 10 waters and made it an even bigger piece of garbage than it was
attack on democracy!hopefully the number seeing what a chaotic and useless government we have at present will grow enough to see them on the scrap heap where they belong come October.
What utter garbage! Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the real traty. It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed translation of the treaty. Which is a contract Rich is quite happy to trash because it can't support Labours racistNational have promised to repeal the water reforms legislation thatThat is a different issue, but it fits with another of the National
Labour have enacted.
rabbit holes - their inherent racism is blinding them to the need to
fulfil Treaty commitments; past National governments have been fairly >>> >> good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual obligations >>> >> . . .
You have been corrected on this a number of times - see if you can forYou have told lies about it Rich! I AM correct! YOU continue to lie about the bullshit translation being used by Labour to fuck democracy and NZ!
once find proof to support your assertion.
So give the proof . . . . . .
On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 06:34:34 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Exactly - not a translation as John Bowes asserts, but the original
On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 04:45:20 -0000 (UTC), TonyYour treaty is no my treaty.
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:25:22 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>>><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:Actually old bean - it is for you to show that your treaty is the real one.
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 12:28:53?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:27:27 -0700 (PDT), John BowesSo give the proof . . . . . .
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:30:51?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>> >> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:43:06 +1200, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>Try this for an example of an MP that just doesn't care:
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:11:02 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
It seems that National are spending so much time on getting in >>>>>> >> >>election spending before the restricted election period that they
are
not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of >>>>>> >> >>sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care >>>>>> >> >>about
- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it >>>>>> >> >>bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are >>>>>> >> >>paying
them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/
Fair call Crash; I was thinking that the three National MPs that werehttps://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/
"Not re-elected"? How illustrative of the muddled thinking your post
reveals. Only governments are re-elected. National are not the >>>>>> >> >current (or previous) government.
not aware that their new policy had recently been announced by Labour
should leave Parliament. Pre-MMP thinking, although Luxon may well go
shortly after the election when ACT/Nat miss getting enough votes to
form a government . . .
How about all the Labour MPs who don't seem to know what any of Labours
legislation is about Rich?
https://twitter.com/rugbyintel/status/1672822657308590080
You're obviously thinking of the delusional lying Ginny Anderson!
You have told lies about it Rich! I AM correct! YOU continue to lie aboutYou're still delusional about Labours chances of getting the coalitionYou have been corrected on this a number of times - see if you can for
of
chaos up and running aren't guaranteed by a long shot. Especially now
that
they've turned 3 waters into 10 waters and made it an even bigger piece
of
garbage than it was originally.
hopefully the number seeing what a chaotic and useless government we >>>>>> >have
at present will grow enough to see them on the scrap heap where they >>>>>> >belong
come October.
What utter garbage! Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the real traty.National have promised to repeal the water reforms legislation thatThat is a different issue, but it fits with another of the National
Labour have enacted.
rabbit holes - their inherent racism is blinding them to the need to
fulfil Treaty commitments; past National governments have been fairly
good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual obligations
. . .
It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed translation of
the
treaty. Which is a contract Rich is quite happy to trash because it >>>>>> >can't
support Labours racist attack on democracy!
once find proof to support your assertion.
the
bullshit translation being used by Labour to fuck democracy and NZ! >>>>
Until you do so I believe the first traty is always going to be the only one
that matters since there have been no ammendments.
It is not my Treaty - it belongs to all of us.
Mine is the original one - no other.
treaty signed by Maori and on behalf of the Crown.
Yours is yet to be shown as valid.
Irrelevant.
JohnB responded to my saying that past National governments have been >>fairly good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual >>obligations by claiming that "Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the >>real treaty. It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed >>translation of the treaty. "
You appear to support my view that the version of the Treaty that is >>used by our courts is the original Treaty signed by Maori - nothing to >>do with the translations. The obligations our government have are to >>meet the principles of that version, and while John B may believe they >>can be ignored, both Labour and National governments have endeavoured
to meet those commitments.
On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 06:34:34 -0000 (UTC), TonyAnd not one that was produced after the first was signed - that is the issue because the government and others want to use that.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Exactly - not a translation as John Bowes asserts, but the original
On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 04:45:20 -0000 (UTC), TonyYour treaty is no my treaty.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:25:22 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:Actually old bean - it is for you to show that your treaty is the real one. >>>>Until you do so I believe the first traty is always going to be the only >>>>one
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 12:28:53?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:27:27 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:30:51?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>>> >> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:43:06 +1200, CrashTry this for an example of an MP that just doesn't care:
<nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:11:02 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>> >> >wrote:
It seems that National are spending so much time on getting in >>>>>>> >> >>election spending before the restricted election period that they >>>>>>> >> >>are
not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of >>>>>>> >> >>sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care >>>>>>> >> >>about
- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it >>>>>>> >> >>bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are >>>>>>> >> >>paying
them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/
Fair call Crash; I was thinking that the three National MPs that >>>>>>> >>werehttps://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/
"Not re-elected"? How illustrative of the muddled thinking your >>>>>>> >> >post
reveals. Only governments are re-elected. National are not the >>>>>>> >> >current (or previous) government.
not aware that their new policy had recently been announced by >>>>>>> >>Labour
should leave Parliament. Pre-MMP thinking, although Luxon may well >>>>>>> >>go
shortly after the election when ACT/Nat miss getting enough votes to >>>>>>> >> form a government . . .
How about all the Labour MPs who don't seem to know what any of >>>>>>> >Labours
legislation is about Rich?
https://twitter.com/rugbyintel/status/1672822657308590080
You're obviously thinking of the delusional lying Ginny Anderson!
You have told lies about it Rich! I AM correct! YOU continue to lie about >>>>>>theYou're still delusional about Labours chances of getting the coalition >>>>>>> >ofYou have been corrected on this a number of times - see if you can for >>>>>>> once find proof to support your assertion.
chaos up and running aren't guaranteed by a long shot. Especially now >>>>>>> >that
they've turned 3 waters into 10 waters and made it an even bigger >>>>>>> >piece
of
garbage than it was originally.
hopefully the number seeing what a chaotic and useless government we >>>>>>> >have
at present will grow enough to see them on the scrap heap where they >>>>>>> >belong
come October.
What utter garbage! Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the real >>>>>>> >traty.National have promised to repeal the water reforms legislation that >>>>>>> >> >Labour have enacted.That is a different issue, but it fits with another of the National >>>>>>> >> rabbit holes - their inherent racism is blinding them to the need to >>>>>>> >> fulfil Treaty commitments; past National governments have been >>>>>>> >>fairly
good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual
obligations
. . .
It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed translation of >>>>>>> >the
treaty. Which is a contract Rich is quite happy to trash because it >>>>>>> >can't
support Labours racist attack on democracy!
bullshit translation being used by Labour to fuck democracy and NZ!
So give the proof . . . . . .
that matters since there have been no ammendments.
It is not my Treaty - it belongs to all of us.
Mine is the original one - no other.
treaty signed by Maori and on behalf of the Crown.
Yours is yet to be shown as valid.
Irrelevant.
JohnB responded to my saying that past National governments have been >>>fairly good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual >>>obligations by claiming that "Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the >>>real treaty. It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed >>>translation of the treaty. "
You appear to support my view that the version of the Treaty that is
used by our courts is the original Treaty signed by Maori - nothing to
do with the translations. The obligations our government have are to
meet the principles of that version, and while John B may believe they >>>can be ignored, both Labour and National governments have endeavoured
to meet those commitments.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 06:34:34 -0000 (UTC), TonyAnd not one that was produced after the first was signed - that is the issue >because the government and others want to use that.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Exactly - not a translation as John Bowes asserts, but the original
On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 04:45:20 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Your treaty is no my treaty.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:25:22 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:Actually old bean - it is for you to show that your treaty is the real one.
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 12:28:53?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:27:27 -0700 (PDT), John BowesSo give the proof . . . . . .
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:30:51?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>>>> >> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:43:06 +1200, CrashTry this for an example of an MP that just doesn't care:
<nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:11:02 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
It seems that National are spending so much time on getting in >>>>>>>> >> >>election spending before the restricted election period that they >>>>>>>> >> >>are
not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of >>>>>>>> >> >>sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care >>>>>>>> >> >>about
- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it >>>>>>>> >> >>bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are >>>>>>>> >> >>paying
them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/
Fair call Crash; I was thinking that the three National MPs that >>>>>>>> >>werehttps://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/
"Not re-elected"? How illustrative of the muddled thinking your >>>>>>>> >> >post
reveals. Only governments are re-elected. National are not the >>>>>>>> >> >current (or previous) government.
not aware that their new policy had recently been announced by >>>>>>>> >>Labour
should leave Parliament. Pre-MMP thinking, although Luxon may well >>>>>>>> >>go
shortly after the election when ACT/Nat miss getting enough votes to
form a government . . .
How about all the Labour MPs who don't seem to know what any of >>>>>>>> >Labours
legislation is about Rich?
https://twitter.com/rugbyintel/status/1672822657308590080
You're obviously thinking of the delusional lying Ginny Anderson! >>>>>>>
You have told lies about it Rich! I AM correct! YOU continue to lie aboutYou're still delusional about Labours chances of getting the coalitionYou have been corrected on this a number of times - see if you can for >>>>>>>> once find proof to support your assertion.
of
chaos up and running aren't guaranteed by a long shot. Especially now >>>>>>>> >that
they've turned 3 waters into 10 waters and made it an even bigger >>>>>>>> >piece
of
garbage than it was originally.
hopefully the number seeing what a chaotic and useless government we >>>>>>>> >have
at present will grow enough to see them on the scrap heap where they >>>>>>>> >belong
come October.
What utter garbage! Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the real >>>>>>>> >traty.National have promised to repeal the water reforms legislation thatThat is a different issue, but it fits with another of the National >>>>>>>> >> rabbit holes - their inherent racism is blinding them to the need to
Labour have enacted.
fulfil Treaty commitments; past National governments have been >>>>>>>> >>fairly
good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual
obligations
. . .
It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed translation of >>>>>>>> >the
treaty. Which is a contract Rich is quite happy to trash because it >>>>>>>> >can't
support Labours racist attack on democracy!
the
bullshit translation being used by Labour to fuck democracy and NZ! >>>>>>
Until you do so I believe the first traty is always going to be the only >>>>>one
that matters since there have been no ammendments.
It is not my Treaty - it belongs to all of us.
Mine is the original one - no other.
treaty signed by Maori and on behalf of the Crown.
Yours is yet to be shown as valid.
Irrelevant.
JohnB responded to my saying that past National governments have been >>>>fairly good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual >>>>obligations by claiming that "Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the >>>>real treaty. It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed >>>>translation of the treaty. "
You appear to support my view that the version of the Treaty that is >>>>used by our courts is the original Treaty signed by Maori - nothing to >>>>do with the translations. The obligations our government have are to >>>>meet the principles of that version, and while John B may believe they >>>>can be ignored, both Labour and National governments have endeavoured >>>>to meet those commitments.
On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 21:17:04 -0000 (UTC), TonyWe don't you silly man.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 06:34:34 -0000 (UTC), TonyAnd not one that was produced after the first was signed - that is the issue >>because the government and others want to use that.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Exactly - not a translation as John Bowes asserts, but the original >>>treaty signed by Maori and on behalf of the Crown.
On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 04:45:20 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Your treaty is no my treaty.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:25:22 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>>>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:Actually old bean - it is for you to show that your treaty is the real >>>>>>one.
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 12:28:53?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:27:27 -0700 (PDT), John BowesSo give the proof . . . . . .
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:30:51?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>>>>> >> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:43:06 +1200, CrashTry this for an example of an MP that just doesn't care:
<nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:11:02 +1200, Rich80105
<Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
It seems that National are spending so much time on getting in >>>>>>>>> >> >>election spending before the restricted election period that >>>>>>>>> >> >>they
are
not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of >>>>>>>>> >> >>sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care >>>>>>>>> >> >>about
- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it >>>>>>>>> >> >>bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are >>>>>>>>> >> >>paying
them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/
Fair call Crash; I was thinking that the three National MPs that >>>>>>>>> >>werehttps://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/
"Not re-elected"? How illustrative of the muddled thinking your >>>>>>>>> >> >post
reveals. Only governments are re-elected. National are not the >>>>>>>>> >> >current (or previous) government.
not aware that their new policy had recently been announced by >>>>>>>>> >>Labour
should leave Parliament. Pre-MMP thinking, although Luxon may well >>>>>>>>> >>go
shortly after the election when ACT/Nat miss getting enough votes >>>>>>>>> >>to
form a government . . .
How about all the Labour MPs who don't seem to know what any of >>>>>>>>> >Labours
legislation is about Rich?
https://twitter.com/rugbyintel/status/1672822657308590080
You're obviously thinking of the delusional lying Ginny Anderson! >>>>>>>>
You have told lies about it Rich! I AM correct! YOU continue to lie >>>>>>>>aboutYou're still delusional about Labours chances of getting the >>>>>>>>> >coalitionYou have been corrected on this a number of times - see if you can >>>>>>>>>for
of
chaos up and running aren't guaranteed by a long shot. Especially >>>>>>>>> >now
that
they've turned 3 waters into 10 waters and made it an even bigger >>>>>>>>> >piece
of
garbage than it was originally.
hopefully the number seeing what a chaotic and useless government we >>>>>>>>> >have
at present will grow enough to see them on the scrap heap where they >>>>>>>>> >belong
come October.
What utter garbage! Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the real >>>>>>>>> >traty.National have promised to repeal the water reforms legislation >>>>>>>>> >> >thatThat is a different issue, but it fits with another of the >>>>>>>>> >>National
Labour have enacted.
rabbit holes - their inherent racism is blinding them to the need >>>>>>>>> >>to
fulfil Treaty commitments; past National governments have been >>>>>>>>> >>fairly
good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual >>>>>>>>> >>obligations
. . .
It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed translation >>>>>>>>> >of
the
treaty. Which is a contract Rich is quite happy to trash because it >>>>>>>>> >can't
support Labours racist attack on democracy!
once find proof to support your assertion.
the
bullshit translation being used by Labour to fuck democracy and NZ! >>>>>>>
Until you do so I believe the first traty is always going to be the only >>>>>>one
that matters since there have been no ammendments.
It is not my Treaty - it belongs to all of us.
Mine is the original one - no other.
The Government (and previous governments) do not want to use any of
the translations produced later and the Tribunal uses the original in
making determinations - John Bowes is the only one on nz.general who
appears to want to use a different version - presumably because some
of the later translations did not accurately translate the concepts
that Maori were agreeing to. This is a rabbit hole being seized on by
racists - I am pleased that we agree, Tony.
Yours is yet to be shown as valid.
Irrelevant.
JohnB responded to my saying that past National governments have been >>>>>fairly good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual >>>>>obligations by claiming that "Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the >>>>>real treaty. It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed >>>>>translation of the treaty. "
You appear to support my view that the version of the Treaty that is >>>>>used by our courts is the original Treaty signed by Maori - nothing to >>>>>do with the translations. The obligations our government have are to >>>>>meet the principles of that version, and while John B may believe they >>>>>can be ignored, both Labour and National governments have endeavoured >>>>>to meet those commitments.
On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 21:17:04 -0000 (UTC), TonyDon't be a bigger arsehole than usual Rich! The tribunal is using the bullshit translation as has been explained to you time after time. Why you keep on lying only shows that like most feral left whingers like you you're incapable of rational argument
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:The Government (and previous governments) do not want to use any of
On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 06:34:34 -0000 (UTC), TonyAnd not one that was produced after the first was signed - that is the issue
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Exactly - not a translation as John Bowes asserts, but the original >>treaty signed by Maori and on behalf of the Crown.
On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 04:45:20 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Your treaty is no my treaty.
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:25:22 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>>>>><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:Actually old bean - it is for you to show that your treaty is the real one.
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 12:28:53?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:27:27 -0700 (PDT), John BowesSo give the proof . . . . . .
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:30:51?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>>>> >> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:43:06 +1200, CrashTry this for an example of an MP that just doesn't care:
<nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:11:02 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
It seems that National are spending so much time on getting in >>>>>>>> >> >>election spending before the restricted election period that they
are
not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of
sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care
about
- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it
bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are >>>>>>>> >> >>paying
them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/
Fair call Crash; I was thinking that the three National MPs that >>>>>>>> >>werehttps://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/
"Not re-elected"? How illustrative of the muddled thinking your >>>>>>>> >> >post
reveals. Only governments are re-elected. National are not the >>>>>>>> >> >current (or previous) government.
not aware that their new policy had recently been announced by >>>>>>>> >>Labour
should leave Parliament. Pre-MMP thinking, although Luxon may well
go
shortly after the election when ACT/Nat miss getting enough votes to
form a government . . .
How about all the Labour MPs who don't seem to know what any of >>>>>>>> >Labours
legislation is about Rich?
https://twitter.com/rugbyintel/status/1672822657308590080
You're obviously thinking of the delusional lying Ginny Anderson! >>>>>>>
You have told lies about it Rich! I AM correct! YOU continue to lie aboutYou're still delusional about Labours chances of getting the coalitionYou have been corrected on this a number of times - see if you can for
of
chaos up and running aren't guaranteed by a long shot. Especially now
that
they've turned 3 waters into 10 waters and made it an even bigger >>>>>>>> >piece
of
garbage than it was originally.
hopefully the number seeing what a chaotic and useless government we
have
at present will grow enough to see them on the scrap heap where they
belong
come October.
What utter garbage! Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the real >>>>>>>> >traty.National have promised to repeal the water reforms legislation thatThat is a different issue, but it fits with another of the National
Labour have enacted.
rabbit holes - their inherent racism is blinding them to the need to
fulfil Treaty commitments; past National governments have been >>>>>>>> >>fairly
good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual >>>>>>>> >>obligations
. . .
It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed translation of
the
treaty. Which is a contract Rich is quite happy to trash because it
can't
support Labours racist attack on democracy!
once find proof to support your assertion.
the
bullshit translation being used by Labour to fuck democracy and NZ! >>>>>>
Until you do so I believe the first traty is always going to be the only
one
that matters since there have been no ammendments.
It is not my Treaty - it belongs to all of us.
Mine is the original one - no other.
because the government and others want to use that.
the translations produced later and the Tribunal uses the original in
making determinations - John Bowes is the only one on nz.general who
appears to want to use a different version - presumably because some
of the later translations did not accurately translate the concepts
that Maori were agreeing to. This is a rabbit hole being seized on by racists - I am pleased that we agree, Tony.
Yours is yet to be shown as valid.
Irrelevant.
JohnB responded to my saying that past National governments have been >>>>fairly good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual >>>>obligations by claiming that "Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the >>>>real treaty. It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed >>>>translation of the treaty. "
You appear to support my view that the version of the Treaty that is >>>>used by our courts is the original Treaty signed by Maori - nothing to >>>>do with the translations. The obligations our government have are to >>>>meet the principles of that version, and while John B may believe they >>>>can be ignored, both Labour and National governments have endeavoured >>>>to meet those commitments.
On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 2:28:29?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:AND learning anything that contradicts the lies you keep repeating. Lies like Tony is agreeing with you!
On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 21:17:04 -0000 (UTC), TonyDon't be a bigger arsehole than usual Rich! The tribunal is using the bullshit translation as has been explained to you time after time. Why you keep on lying only shows that like most feral left whingers like you you're incapable of rational argument
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:The Government (and previous governments) do not want to use any of
On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 06:34:34 -0000 (UTC), TonyAnd not one that was produced after the first was signed - that is the issue
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Exactly - not a translation as John Bowes asserts, but the original
On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 04:45:20 -0000 (UTC), TonyYour treaty is no my treaty.
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:25:22 -0700 (PDT), John BowesActually old bean - it is for you to show that your treaty is the real one.
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 12:28:53?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:So give the proof . . . . . .
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:27:27 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:30:51?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:43:06 +1200, CrashTry this for an example of an MP that just doesn't care:
<nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:11:02 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
It seems that National are spending so much time on getting in >> >>>>>>>> >> >>election spending before the restricted election period that they
are
not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of
sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care
about
- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it
bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are >> >>>>>>>> >> >>paying
them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/
Fair call Crash; I was thinking that the three National MPs that >> >>>>>>>> >>werehttps://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/
"Not re-elected"? How illustrative of the muddled thinking your >> >>>>>>>> >> >post
reveals. Only governments are re-elected. National are not the >> >>>>>>>> >> >current (or previous) government.
not aware that their new policy had recently been announced by >> >>>>>>>> >>Labour
should leave Parliament. Pre-MMP thinking, although Luxon may well
go
shortly after the election when ACT/Nat miss getting enough votes to
form a government . . .
How about all the Labour MPs who don't seem to know what any of
Labours
legislation is about Rich?
https://twitter.com/rugbyintel/status/1672822657308590080
You're obviously thinking of the delusional lying Ginny Anderson!
You have told lies about it Rich! I AM correct! YOU continue to lie aboutYou're still delusional about Labours chances of getting the coalitionYou have been corrected on this a number of times - see if you can for
of
chaos up and running aren't guaranteed by a long shot. Especially now
that
they've turned 3 waters into 10 waters and made it an even bigger >> >>>>>>>> >piece
of
garbage than it was originally.
hopefully the number seeing what a chaotic and useless government we
have
at present will grow enough to see them on the scrap heap where they
belong
come October.
What utter garbage! Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the real >> >>>>>>>> >traty.National have promised to repeal the water reforms legislation thatThat is a different issue, but it fits with another of the National
Labour have enacted.
rabbit holes - their inherent racism is blinding them to the need to
fulfil Treaty commitments; past National governments have been >> >>>>>>>> >>fairly
good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual
obligations
. . .
It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed translation of
the
treaty. Which is a contract Rich is quite happy to trash because it
can't
support Labours racist attack on democracy!
once find proof to support your assertion.
the
bullshit translation being used by Labour to fuck democracy and NZ! >> >>>>>>
Until you do so I believe the first traty is always going to be the only
one
that matters since there have been no ammendments.
It is not my Treaty - it belongs to all of us.
Mine is the original one - no other.
treaty signed by Maori and on behalf of the Crown.
because the government and others want to use that.
the translations produced later and the Tribunal uses the original in
making determinations - John Bowes is the only one on nz.general who
appears to want to use a different version - presumably because some
of the later translations did not accurately translate the concepts
that Maori were agreeing to. This is a rabbit hole being seized on by
racists - I am pleased that we agree, Tony.
The original is the english version that only guarantees that all get treated the same and that Maori relinquished sovereignty (a concept they didn't have till then) but I suppose a government obeying Marxist robot like you hate the idea of democracyand equality along with freedom!
Yours is yet to be shown as valid.
Irrelevant.
JohnB responded to my saying that past National governments have been
fairly good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual
obligations by claiming that "Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the >> >>>>real treaty. It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed
translation of the treaty. "
You appear to support my view that the version of the Treaty that is
used by our courts is the original Treaty signed by Maori - nothing to >> >>>>do with the translations. The obligations our government have are to
meet the principles of that version, and while John B may believe they >> >>>>can be ignored, both Labour and National governments have endeavoured
to meet those commitments.
On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 19:46:12 -0700 (PDT), John BowesAND learning anything that contradicts the lies you keep repeating. Lies like Tony is agreeing with you!
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 2:28:29?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 21:17:04 -0000 (UTC), TonyDon't be a bigger arsehole than usual Rich! The tribunal is using the bullshit translation as has been explained to you time after time. Why you keep on lying only shows that like most feral left whingers like you you're incapable of rational argument
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:The Government (and previous governments) do not want to use any of
On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 06:34:34 -0000 (UTC), TonyAnd not one that was produced after the first was signed - that is the issue
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Exactly - not a translation as John Bowes asserts, but the original
On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 04:45:20 -0000 (UTC), TonyYour treaty is no my treaty.
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:25:22 -0700 (PDT), John BowesActually old bean - it is for you to show that your treaty is the real one.
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 12:28:53?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote: >> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:27:27 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:30:51?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:Try this for an example of an MP that just doesn't care:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:43:06 +1200, Crash
<nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:11:02 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
It seems that National are spending so much time on getting in
election spending before the restricted election period that they
are
not aware of what is going on around them. In a little bubble of
sycophants their personal ignorance and biases are all they care
about
- and are unaware of what is happening in parliament! To put it
bluntly, National MPs are not doing the job that taxpayers are
paying
them to do - they deserve to not be re-elected.
https://thestandard.org.nz/national-releases-uncosted-corrections-policy/
Fair call Crash; I was thinking that the three National MPs thathttps://thestandard.org.nz/nacts-law-order-policies-dog-whistle-or-proto-fascism/
"Not re-elected"? How illustrative of the muddled thinking your
post
reveals. Only governments are re-elected. National are not the
current (or previous) government.
were
not aware that their new policy had recently been announced by
Labour
should leave Parliament. Pre-MMP thinking, although Luxon may well
go
shortly after the election when ACT/Nat miss getting enough votes to
form a government . . .
How about all the Labour MPs who don't seem to know what any of >> >>>>>>>> >Labours
legislation is about Rich?
https://twitter.com/rugbyintel/status/1672822657308590080
You're obviously thinking of the delusional lying Ginny Anderson! >> >>>>>>>
You have told lies about it Rich! I AM correct! YOU continue to lie aboutYou're still delusional about Labours chances of getting the coalitionYou have been corrected on this a number of times - see if you can for
of
chaos up and running aren't guaranteed by a long shot. Especially now
that
they've turned 3 waters into 10 waters and made it an even bigger
piece
of
garbage than it was originally.
hopefully the number seeing what a chaotic and useless government we
have
at present will grow enough to see them on the scrap heap where they
belong
come October.
What utter garbage! Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the realNational have promised to repeal the water reforms legislation thatThat is a different issue, but it fits with another of the National
Labour have enacted.
rabbit holes - their inherent racism is blinding them to the need to
fulfil Treaty commitments; past National governments have been
fairly
good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual
obligations
. . .
traty.
It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed translation of
the
treaty. Which is a contract Rich is quite happy to trash because it
can't
support Labours racist attack on democracy!
once find proof to support your assertion.
the
bullshit translation being used by Labour to fuck democracy and NZ!
So give the proof . . . . . .
Until you do so I believe the first traty is always going to be the only
one
that matters since there have been no ammendments.
It is not my Treaty - it belongs to all of us.
Mine is the original one - no other.
treaty signed by Maori and on behalf of the Crown.
because the government and others want to use that.
the translations produced later and the Tribunal uses the original in
making determinations - John Bowes is the only one on nz.general who
appears to want to use a different version - presumably because some
of the later translations did not accurately translate the concepts
that Maori were agreeing to. This is a rabbit hole being seized on by
racists - I am pleased that we agree, Tony.
and equality along with freedom!The original is the english version that only guarantees that all get treated the same and that Maori relinquished sovereignty (a concept they didn't have till then) but I suppose a government obeying Marxist robot like you hate the idea of democracy
Sorry Rich but as usual with you. You LIE!You have certainly made such assertions a number of times, but you
Yours is yet to be shown as valid.
Irrelevant.
JohnB responded to my saying that past National governments have been >> >>>>fairly good at recognising the importance of meeting contractual
obligations by claiming that "Nothing guaranteeing this appears in the
real treaty. It's only an interpretation of what is in the supposed >> >>>>translation of the treaty. "
You appear to support my view that the version of the Treaty that is >> >>>>used by our courts is the original Treaty signed by Maori - nothing to
do with the translations. The obligations our government have are to >> >>>>meet the principles of that version, and while John B may believe they
can be ignored, both Labour and National governments have endeavoured >> >>>>to meet those commitments.
have provided no evidence to support your delusion.
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