The draft Electoral Review is out now. Anyone can make a submission
here:
https://tinyurl.com/yhn2n8ky
The mechanism is in the form of a survey and every survey answer is
preceded by a summary of what is recommended and why. It takes a bit
of time but is very easy to do.
--Done some weeks ago...
Crash McBash
The draft Electoral Review is out now. Anyone can make a submission
here:
https://tinyurl.com/yhn2n8ky
The mechanism is in the form of a survey and every survey answer is
preceded by a summary of what is recommended and why. It takes a bit
of time but is very easy to do.
On 2023-06-16, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
The draft Electoral Review is out now. Anyone can make a submissionWell it is clear that the Treaty is tangling things up.
here:
https://tinyurl.com/yhn2n8ky
The mechanism is in the form of a survey and every survey answer is
preceded by a summary of what is recommended and why. It takes a bit
of time but is very easy to do.
In a democracy the overiding principle is one man (human) one vote. Does not >the Treaty give the Maori the same rights as the white/British. As far as I >am aware the Maori have their own seats, and may vote on the General Roll >should they so desire. This is more than 87% of the population.
If there are issues of the Maori being treated unfairly or there are other >related issues then this can be addressed separately.
Can we not keep the Treaty out of areas in which it provided no value >overall.
On 2023-06-16, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:The total number of seats held by each party is determined by the
The draft Electoral Review is out now. Anyone can make a submissionWell it is clear that the Treaty is tangling things up.
here:
https://tinyurl.com/yhn2n8ky
The mechanism is in the form of a survey and every survey answer is
preceded by a summary of what is recommended and why. It takes a bit
of time but is very easy to do.
In a democracy the overiding principle is one man (human) one vote. Does not >the Treaty give the Maori the same rights as the white/British. As far as I >am aware the Maori have their own seats, and may vote on the General Roll >should they so desire. This is more than 87% of the population.
If there are issues of the Maori being treated unfairly or there are other >related issues then this can be addressed separately.And that is exactly what is happening
Can we not keep the Treaty out of areas in which it provided no value >overall.What value it provides may not be universally agreed, but issues
On 16 Jun 2023 04:12:37 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-16, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
The draft Electoral Review is out now. Anyone can make a submissionWell it is clear that the Treaty is tangling things up.
here:
https://tinyurl.com/yhn2n8ky
The mechanism is in the form of a survey and every survey answer is
preceded by a summary of what is recommended and why. It takes a bit
of time but is very easy to do.
In a democracy the overiding principle is one man (human) one vote. Does notThe total number of seats held by each party is determined by the
the Treaty give the Maori the same rights as the white/British. As far as I >am aware the Maori have their own seats, and may vote on the General Roll >should they so desire. This is more than 87% of the population.
Party Vote. The Maori electorate seats will therefore not change the
party or parties that form the government. They do however ensure that
at least 4 seats are elected by those registered in those seats -
knowing it makes little difference, successive governments have said
that they will retain the Maori Seats until Maori are happy for that
to change. In recent times, MPs identifying as Maori have been
elected to other than the 4 Maori seats - in either other electorates
or on party lists.
Pity the tribunal isn't using the original and real treaty...If there are issues of the Maori being treated unfairly or there are other >related issues then this can be addressed separately.And that is exactly what is happening
Can we not keep the Treaty out of areas in which it provided no value >overall.What value it provides may not be universally agreed, but issues
before the Tribunal must relate to the areas covered by the Treaty.
On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 4:34:24?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:Gordon, unlike Rich80105, knows what he's talking about...
On 16 Jun 2023 04:12:37 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-16, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> wrote:The total number of seats held by each party is determined by the
The draft Electoral Review is out now. Anyone can make a submissionWell it is clear that the Treaty is tangling things up.
here:
https://tinyurl.com/yhn2n8ky
The mechanism is in the form of a survey and every survey answer is
preceded by a summary of what is recommended and why. It takes a bit
of time but is very easy to do.
In a democracy the overiding principle is one man (human) one vote. Does not
the Treaty give the Maori the same rights as the white/British. As far as I >> >am aware the Maori have their own seats, and may vote on the General Roll >> >should they so desire. This is more than 87% of the population.
Party Vote. The Maori electorate seats will therefore not change the
party or parties that form the government. They do however ensure that
at least 4 seats are elected by those registered in those seats -
knowing it makes little difference, successive governments have said
that they will retain the Maori Seats until Maori are happy for that
to change. In recent times, MPs identifying as Maori have been
elected to other than the 4 Maori seats - in either other electorates
or on party lists.
What are you rabbiting on about now Rich? Apart from there being SEVEN Maori seats the rest of your post is about as much use as a Labour minister of the crown. You love stating the bloody obvious which anyone with a trace of comprehension would show
They are.Pity the tribunal isn't using the original and real treaty...If there are issues of the Maori being treated unfairly or there are other >> >related issues then this can be addressed separately.And that is exactly what is happening
What value it provides may not be universally agreed, but issues
Can we not keep the Treaty out of areas in which it provided no value
overall.
before the Tribunal must relate to the areas covered by the Treaty.
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 03:09:55 -0700 (PDT), John BowesYou cannot demonstrate that. They are not using the original. That has been shown here many times.
<bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 4:34:24?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On 16 Jun 2023 04:12:37 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-16, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> wrote:The total number of seats held by each party is determined by the
The draft Electoral Review is out now. Anyone can make a submissionWell it is clear that the Treaty is tangling things up.
here:
https://tinyurl.com/yhn2n8ky
The mechanism is in the form of a survey and every survey answer is
preceded by a summary of what is recommended and why. It takes a bit
of time but is very easy to do.
In a democracy the overiding principle is one man (human) one vote. Does >>> >not
the Treaty give the Maori the same rights as the white/British. As far as >>> >I
am aware the Maori have their own seats, and may vote on the General Roll >>> >should they so desire. This is more than 87% of the population.
Party Vote. The Maori electorate seats will therefore not change the
party or parties that form the government. They do however ensure that
at least 4 seats are elected by those registered in those seats -
knowing it makes little difference, successive governments have said
that they will retain the Maori Seats until Maori are happy for that
to change. In recent times, MPs identifying as Maori have been
elected to other than the 4 Maori seats - in either other electorates
or on party lists.
What are you rabbiting on about now Rich? Apart from there being SEVEN Maori >>seats the rest of your post is about as much use as a Labour minister of the >>crown. You love stating the bloody obvious which anyone with a trace of >>comprehension would show Gordon, unlike Rich80105, knows what he's talking >>about...
Yes you are correct that the number of Maori seats has changed - but
they still do not affect the make up of parliament by party - the
party vote is one vote per person, and results in the total number of
seats for each party
They are.
Pity the tribunal isn't using the original and real treaty...If there are issues of the Maori being treated unfairly or there are other >>> >related issues then this can be addressed separately.And that is exactly what is happening
What value it provides may not be universally agreed, but issues
Can we not keep the Treaty out of areas in which it provided no value
overall.
before the Tribunal must relate to the areas covered by the Treaty.
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 03:09:55 -0700 (PDT), John BowesGordon, unlike Rich80105, knows what he's talking about...
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 4:34:24?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On 16 Jun 2023 04:12:37 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-16, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> wrote:The total number of seats held by each party is determined by the
The draft Electoral Review is out now. Anyone can make a submissionWell it is clear that the Treaty is tangling things up.
here:
https://tinyurl.com/yhn2n8ky
The mechanism is in the form of a survey and every survey answer is
preceded by a summary of what is recommended and why. It takes a bit >> >> of time but is very easy to do.
In a democracy the overiding principle is one man (human) one vote. Does not
the Treaty give the Maori the same rights as the white/British. As far as I
am aware the Maori have their own seats, and may vote on the General Roll
should they so desire. This is more than 87% of the population.
Party Vote. The Maori electorate seats will therefore not change the
party or parties that form the government. They do however ensure that
at least 4 seats are elected by those registered in those seats -
knowing it makes little difference, successive governments have said
that they will retain the Maori Seats until Maori are happy for that
to change. In recent times, MPs identifying as Maori have been
elected to other than the 4 Maori seats - in either other electorates
or on party lists.
What are you rabbiting on about now Rich? Apart from there being SEVEN Maori seats the rest of your post is about as much use as a Labour minister of the crown. You love stating the bloody obvious which anyone with a trace of comprehension would show
Yes you are correct that the number of Maori seats has changed - butDo you still teach your grandmother to suck eggs Rich? Because you do tend to think we're all like you and are fucking imbeciles! We're all quite aware of how elections go. Even though you're happy to blindly support Labours anti democratic and racist 5
they still do not affect the make up of parliament by party - the
party vote is one vote per person, and results in the total number of
seats for each party
They are.Pity the tribunal isn't using the original and real treaty...If there are issues of the Maori being treated unfairly or there are otherAnd that is exactly what is happening
related issues then this can be addressed separately.
What value it provides may not be universally agreed, but issues
Can we not keep the Treaty out of areas in which it provided no value
overall.
before the Tribunal must relate to the areas covered by the Treaty.
On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 11:12:04?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:Gordon, unlike Rich80105, knows what he's talking about...
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 03:09:55 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 4:34:24?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On 16 Jun 2023 04:12:37 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-16, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> wrote:The total number of seats held by each party is determined by the
The draft Electoral Review is out now. Anyone can make a submissionWell it is clear that the Treaty is tangling things up.
here:
https://tinyurl.com/yhn2n8ky
The mechanism is in the form of a survey and every survey answer is
preceded by a summary of what is recommended and why. It takes a bit >> >> >> of time but is very easy to do.
In a democracy the overiding principle is one man (human) one vote. Does not
the Treaty give the Maori the same rights as the white/British. As far as I
am aware the Maori have their own seats, and may vote on the General Roll
should they so desire. This is more than 87% of the population.
Party Vote. The Maori electorate seats will therefore not change the
party or parties that form the government. They do however ensure that
at least 4 seats are elected by those registered in those seats -
knowing it makes little difference, successive governments have said
that they will retain the Maori Seats until Maori are happy for that
to change. In recent times, MPs identifying as Maori have been
elected to other than the 4 Maori seats - in either other electorates
or on party lists.
What are you rabbiting on about now Rich? Apart from there being SEVEN Maori seats the rest of your post is about as much use as a Labour minister of the crown. You love stating the bloody obvious which anyone with a trace of comprehension would show
waters legislation! Hypocrisy is what you and Labour/Green/Porangi party are good at. The ONLY thing you're good at!Yes you are correct that the number of Maori seats has changed - butDo you still teach your grandmother to suck eggs Rich? Because you do tend to think we're all like you and are fucking imbeciles! We're all quite aware of how elections go. Even though you're happy to blindly support Labours anti democratic and racist 5
they still do not affect the make up of parliament by party - the
party vote is one vote per person, and results in the total number of
seats for each party
That is the original Treaty document - the one signed by so manyThey are.
Pity the tribunal isn't using the original and real treaty...If there are issues of the Maori being treated unfairly or there are otherAnd that is exactly what is happening
related issues then this can be addressed separately.
What value it provides may not be universally agreed, but issues
Can we not keep the Treaty out of areas in which it provided no value
overall.
before the Tribunal must relate to the areas covered by the Treaty.
They're using the bullshit maori translation of the treaty Rich! Like you and Labour it's a swindle!!!
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 15:01:00 -0700 (PDT), John Bowesshow Gordon, unlike Rich80105, knows what he's talking about...
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 11:12:04?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 03:09:55 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 4:34:24?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On 16 Jun 2023 04:12:37 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-16, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> wrote:The total number of seats held by each party is determined by the
The draft Electoral Review is out now. Anyone can make a submission >> >> >> here:Well it is clear that the Treaty is tangling things up.
https://tinyurl.com/yhn2n8ky
The mechanism is in the form of a survey and every survey answer is >> >> >> preceded by a summary of what is recommended and why. It takes a bit
of time but is very easy to do.
In a democracy the overiding principle is one man (human) one vote. Does not
the Treaty give the Maori the same rights as the white/British. As far as I
am aware the Maori have their own seats, and may vote on the General Roll
should they so desire. This is more than 87% of the population.
Party Vote. The Maori electorate seats will therefore not change the >> >> party or parties that form the government. They do however ensure that >> >> at least 4 seats are elected by those registered in those seats -
knowing it makes little difference, successive governments have said >> >> that they will retain the Maori Seats until Maori are happy for that >> >> to change. In recent times, MPs identifying as Maori have been
elected to other than the 4 Maori seats - in either other electorates >> >> or on party lists.
What are you rabbiting on about now Rich? Apart from there being SEVEN Maori seats the rest of your post is about as much use as a Labour minister of the crown. You love stating the bloody obvious which anyone with a trace of comprehension would
5 waters legislation! Hypocrisy is what you and Labour/Green/Porangi party are good at. The ONLY thing you're good at!Yes you are correct that the number of Maori seats has changed - butDo you still teach your grandmother to suck eggs Rich? Because you do tend to think we're all like you and are fucking imbeciles! We're all quite aware of how elections go. Even though you're happy to blindly support Labours anti democratic and racist
they still do not affect the make up of parliament by party - the
party vote is one vote per person, and results in the total number of
seats for each party
Utter BULLSHIT! The treaty that was signed can be viewed at the National Library and it certainly isn't the bullshit treaty you defend like the fucking imbecile you continue to prove to us all!They are.
Pity the tribunal isn't using the original and real treaty...If there are issues of the Maori being treated unfairly or there are otherAnd that is exactly what is happening
related issues then this can be addressed separately.
What value it provides may not be universally agreed, but issues
Can we not keep the Treaty out of areas in which it provided no value >> >> >overall.
before the Tribunal must relate to the areas covered by the Treaty.
They're using the bullshit maori translation of the treaty Rich! Like you and Labour it's a swindle!!!That is the original Treaty document - the one signed by so many
Maori. They were presented with a contract; and they signed it. How is
that not the "original Treaty"?
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