• Well what a surprise.

    From Tony@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 7 00:33:56 2023
    XPost: nz.politics

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/06/02/antarctic-ice-shelves-growing/?fbclid=IwAR0ynCxwn2tyLSE1SHbPfCjxWtpnV4yPDh1csget3FjXhl9E9GRJAUC9MYE
    It cools, it heats it does it all again and has been doing so for mellenia.
    And this https://waikanaewatch.org/2023/06/06/statistics-that-the-climatists-avoid/ Greta go and find a real job.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Thu Jun 8 08:58:02 2023
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 00:33:56 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/06/02/antarctic-ice-shelves-growing/?fbclid=IwAR0ynCxwn2tyLSE1SHbPfCjxWtpnV4yPDh1csget3FjXhl9E9GRJAUC9MYE
    It cools, it heats it does it all again and has been doing so for mellenia. >And this >https://waikanaewatch.org/2023/06/06/statistics-that-the-climatists-avoid/ >Greta go and find a real job.

    As the ice melts, it spreads further over the surface of the sea -
    getting larger in surface area does not mean it is overall getting
    colder.

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  • From JohnO@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 7 14:44:50 2023
    On Thursday, 8 June 2023 at 08:59:02 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 00:33:56 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/06/02/antarctic-ice-shelves-growing/?fbclid=IwAR0ynCxwn2tyLSE1SHbPfCjxWtpnV4yPDh1csget3FjXhl9E9GRJAUC9MYE
    It cools, it heats it does it all again and has been doing so for mellenia. >And this >https://waikanaewatch.org/2023/06/06/statistics-that-the-climatists-avoid/ >Greta go and find a real job.
    As the ice melts, it spreads further over the surface of the sea -
    getting larger in surface area does not mean it is overall getting
    colder.

    Dickbot has made some really stupid posts over the years but that one really takes the cake!

    Here's a clue, moron: When ice melts it is water. It doesn't spread over the surface of the sea. It *is* the sea. Duh!

    According to morons like Dickbot, ice coverage expanding or ice coverage contracting are both signs of temperature increase!

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to JohnO on Wed Jun 7 16:07:32 2023
    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:44:51 AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 8 June 2023 at 08:59:02 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 00:33:56 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/06/02/antarctic-ice-shelves-growing/?fbclid=IwAR0ynCxwn2tyLSE1SHbPfCjxWtpnV4yPDh1csget3FjXhl9E9GRJAUC9MYE
    It cools, it heats it does it all again and has been doing so for mellenia.
    And this >https://waikanaewatch.org/2023/06/06/statistics-that-the-climatists-avoid/
    Greta go and find a real job.
    As the ice melts, it spreads further over the surface of the sea -
    getting larger in surface area does not mean it is overall getting
    colder.
    Dickbot has made some really stupid posts over the years but that one really takes the cake!

    Here's a clue, moron: When ice melts it is water. It doesn't spread over the surface of the sea. It *is* the sea. Duh!

    According to morons like Dickbot, ice coverage expanding or ice coverage contracting are both signs of temperature increase!

    He must be a weird scientist. Ice expands as it freezes and decreases in volume as it melts. So any ice floating in water isn't going to do anything to the sea except maybe lower the sea level if enough melts...

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to JohnO on Wed Jun 7 22:55:53 2023
    On 2023-06-07, JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, 8 June 2023 at 08:59:02 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 00:33:56 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/06/02/antarctic-ice-shelves-growing/?fbclid=IwAR0ynCxwn2tyLSE1SHbPfCjxWtpnV4yPDh1csget3FjXhl9E9GRJAUC9MYE
    It cools, it heats it does it all again and has been doing so for mellenia. >> >And this
    https://waikanaewatch.org/2023/06/06/statistics-that-the-climatists-avoid/ >> >Greta go and find a real job.
    As the ice melts, it spreads further over the surface of the sea -
    getting larger in surface area does not mean it is overall getting
    colder.

    Dickbot has made some really stupid posts over the years but that one really takes the cake!

    Here's a clue, moron: When ice melts it is water. It doesn't spread over the surface of the sea. It *is* the sea. Duh!

    According to morons like Dickbot, ice coverage expanding or ice coverage contracting are both signs of temperature increase!

    While we are here, the ice bergs which are floating in the sea and melt do not increase the sea level rise. Ice is less dense than water. Water is the most dense at 4 degrees C.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to bowesjohn02@gmail.com on Thu Jun 8 11:25:28 2023
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 16:07:32 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:44:51?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 8 June 2023 at 08:59:02 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 00:33:56 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/06/02/antarctic-ice-shelves-growing/?fbclid=IwAR0ynCxwn2tyLSE1SHbPfCjxWtpnV4yPDh1csget3FjXhl9E9GRJAUC9MYE
    It cools, it heats it does it all again and has been doing so for mellenia.
    And this
    https://waikanaewatch.org/2023/06/06/statistics-that-the-climatists-avoid/
    Greta go and find a real job.
    As the ice melts, it spreads further over the surface of the sea -
    getting larger in surface area does not mean it is overall getting
    colder.
    Dickbot has made some really stupid posts over the years but that one really takes the cake!

    Here's a clue, moron: When ice melts it is water. It doesn't spread over the surface of the sea. It *is* the sea. Duh!

    According to morons like Dickbot, ice coverage expanding or ice coverage contracting are both signs of temperature increase!

    He must be a weird scientist. Ice expands as it freezes and decreases in volume as it melts. So any ice floating in water isn't going to do anything to the sea except maybe lower the sea level if enough melts...

    If all the snow and ice on Mt Erebus melted, we would see an increase
    in sea levels.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 7 16:43:51 2023
    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 11:26:24 AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 16:07:32 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:44:51?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 8 June 2023 at 08:59:02 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 00:33:56 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/06/02/antarctic-ice-shelves-growing/?fbclid=IwAR0ynCxwn2tyLSE1SHbPfCjxWtpnV4yPDh1csget3FjXhl9E9GRJAUC9MYE
    It cools, it heats it does it all again and has been doing so for mellenia.
    And this
    https://waikanaewatch.org/2023/06/06/statistics-that-the-climatists-avoid/
    Greta go and find a real job.
    As the ice melts, it spreads further over the surface of the sea -
    getting larger in surface area does not mean it is overall getting
    colder.
    Dickbot has made some really stupid posts over the years but that one really takes the cake!

    Here's a clue, moron: When ice melts it is water. It doesn't spread over the surface of the sea. It *is* the sea. Duh!

    According to morons like Dickbot, ice coverage expanding or ice coverage contracting are both signs of temperature increase!

    He must be a weird scientist. Ice expands as it freezes and decreases in volume as it melts. So any ice floating in water isn't going to do anything to the sea except maybe lower the sea level if enough melts...
    If all the snow and ice on Mt Erebus melted, we would see an increase
    in sea levels.

    A barely significant rise Rich! Why you posted this is beyond me apart from your desire to show just what a fucking imbecile you are! My post was about ice on the oceans not on the land though in Antartica a lot of the ice idiots like you get excited
    about is actually resting on water! But that's okay you keep playing the ng clown we'll all keep laughing at you :)

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 7 18:11:10 2023
    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 12:23:13 PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 16:43:51 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 11:26:24?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 16:07:32 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:44:51?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 8 June 2023 at 08:59:02 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 00:33:56 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/06/02/antarctic-ice-shelves-growing/?fbclid=IwAR0ynCxwn2tyLSE1SHbPfCjxWtpnV4yPDh1csget3FjXhl9E9GRJAUC9MYE
    It cools, it heats it does it all again and has been doing so for mellenia.
    And this
    https://waikanaewatch.org/2023/06/06/statistics-that-the-climatists-avoid/
    Greta go and find a real job.
    As the ice melts, it spreads further over the surface of the sea - >> >> > getting larger in surface area does not mean it is overall getting >> >> > colder.
    Dickbot has made some really stupid posts over the years but that one really takes the cake!

    Here's a clue, moron: When ice melts it is water. It doesn't spread over the surface of the sea. It *is* the sea. Duh!

    According to morons like Dickbot, ice coverage expanding or ice coverage contracting are both signs of temperature increase!

    He must be a weird scientist. Ice expands as it freezes and decreases in volume as it melts. So any ice floating in water isn't going to do anything to the sea except maybe lower the sea level if enough melts...
    If all the snow and ice on Mt Erebus melted, we would see an increase
    in sea levels.

    A barely significant rise Rich! Why you posted this is beyond me apart from your desire to show just what a fucking imbecile you are! My post was about ice on the oceans not on the land though in Antartica a lot of the ice idiots like you get excited
    about is actually resting on water! But that's okay you keep playing the ng clown we'll all keep laughing at you :)
    There is more melting from the Arctic than from Antarctica anyway.
    So fucking WHAT? You just love digging deep holes don't you Rich! But guess that's all we can expect from a fucking comprehensionless imbecile like you...

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to bowesjohn02@gmail.com on Thu Jun 8 12:22:16 2023
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 16:43:51 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 11:26:24?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 16:07:32 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:44:51?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 8 June 2023 at 08:59:02 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 00:33:56 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/06/02/antarctic-ice-shelves-growing/?fbclid=IwAR0ynCxwn2tyLSE1SHbPfCjxWtpnV4yPDh1csget3FjXhl9E9GRJAUC9MYE
    It cools, it heats it does it all again and has been doing so for mellenia.
    And this
    https://waikanaewatch.org/2023/06/06/statistics-that-the-climatists-avoid/
    Greta go and find a real job.
    As the ice melts, it spreads further over the surface of the sea -
    getting larger in surface area does not mean it is overall getting
    colder.
    Dickbot has made some really stupid posts over the years but that one really takes the cake!

    Here's a clue, moron: When ice melts it is water. It doesn't spread over the surface of the sea. It *is* the sea. Duh!

    According to morons like Dickbot, ice coverage expanding or ice coverage contracting are both signs of temperature increase!

    He must be a weird scientist. Ice expands as it freezes and decreases in volume as it melts. So any ice floating in water isn't going to do anything to the sea except maybe lower the sea level if enough melts...
    If all the snow and ice on Mt Erebus melted, we would see an increase
    in sea levels.

    A barely significant rise Rich! Why you posted this is beyond me apart from your desire to show just what a fucking imbecile you are! My post was about ice on the oceans not on the land though in Antartica a lot of the ice idiots like you get excited
    about is actually resting on water! But that's okay you keep playing the ng clown we'll all keep laughing at you :)

    There is more melting from the Arctic than from Antarctica anyway.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Jun 8 03:02:21 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 16:07:32 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:44:51?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 8 June 2023 at 08:59:02 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 00:33:56 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:


    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/06/02/antarctic-ice-shelves-growing/?fbclid=IwAR0ynCxwn2tyLSE1SHbPfCjxWtpnV4yPDh1csget3FjXhl9E9GRJAUC9MYE
    It cools, it heats it does it all again and has been doing so for
    mellenia.
    And this

    https://waikanaewatch.org/2023/06/06/statistics-that-the-climatists-avoid/
    Greta go and find a real job.
    As the ice melts, it spreads further over the surface of the sea -
    getting larger in surface area does not mean it is overall getting
    colder.
    Dickbot has made some really stupid posts over the years but that one >>>really takes the cake!

    Here's a clue, moron: When ice melts it is water. It doesn't spread over >>>the surface of the sea. It *is* the sea. Duh!

    According to morons like Dickbot, ice coverage expanding or ice coverage >>>contracting are both signs of temperature increase!

    He must be a weird scientist. Ice expands as it freezes and decreases in >>volume as it melts. So any ice floating in water isn't going to do anything to
    the sea except maybe lower the sea level if enough melts...

    If all the snow and ice on Mt Erebus melted, we would see an increase
    in sea levels.
    We are discussin sea iv=ce, not land ice. The two are different.
    As the ice melts it becomes water and part of the ocean. If it is sea ice (ie floating) It also shrinks in volume. As ice melts it cools the ocean as well. Having said that there is no target involving the sea getting colder, that is a non sequitur.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Jun 8 03:03:34 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 16:43:51 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 11:26:24?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 16:07:32 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:44:51?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 8 June 2023 at 08:59:02 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 00:33:56 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:


    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/06/02/antarctic-ice-shelves-growing/?fbclid=IwAR0ynCxwn2tyLSE1SHbPfCjxWtpnV4yPDh1csget3FjXhl9E9GRJAUC9MYE
    It cools, it heats it does it all again and has been doing so for
    mellenia.
    And this

    https://waikanaewatch.org/2023/06/06/statistics-that-the-climatists-avoid/
    Greta go and find a real job.
    As the ice melts, it spreads further over the surface of the sea -
    getting larger in surface area does not mean it is overall getting
    colder.
    Dickbot has made some really stupid posts over the years but that one >>> >>really takes the cake!

    Here's a clue, moron: When ice melts it is water. It doesn't spread over >>> >>the surface of the sea. It *is* the sea. Duh!

    According to morons like Dickbot, ice coverage expanding or ice coverage >>> >>contracting are both signs of temperature increase!

    He must be a weird scientist. Ice expands as it freezes and decreases in >>> >volume as it melts. So any ice floating in water isn't going to do anything to
    the sea except maybe lower the sea level if enough melts...
    If all the snow and ice on Mt Erebus melted, we would see an increase
    in sea levels.

    A barely significant rise Rich! Why you posted this is beyond me apart from >>your desire to show just what a fucking imbecile you are! My post was about ice
    on the oceans not on the land though in Antartica a lot of the ice idiots like
    you get excited about is actually resting on water! But that's okay you keep >>playing the ng clown we'll all keep laughing at you :)

    There is more melting from the Arctic than from Antarctica anyway.
    The arctic ice is all sea ice and when it melts it decreases in volume and cools the ocean.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Tony on Wed Jun 7 22:42:58 2023
    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 3:03:36 PM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 16:43:51 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 11:26:24?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 16:07:32 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:44:51?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 8 June 2023 at 08:59:02 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 00:33:56 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:


    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/06/02/antarctic-ice-shelves-growing/?fbclid=IwAR0ynCxwn2tyLSE1SHbPfCjxWtpnV4yPDh1csget3FjXhl9E9GRJAUC9MYE
    It cools, it heats it does it all again and has been doing so for >>> >> > >mellenia.
    And this

    https://waikanaewatch.org/2023/06/06/statistics-that-the-climatists-avoid/
    Greta go and find a real job.
    As the ice melts, it spreads further over the surface of the sea - >>> >> > getting larger in surface area does not mean it is overall getting >>> >> > colder.
    Dickbot has made some really stupid posts over the years but that one >>> >>really takes the cake!

    Here's a clue, moron: When ice melts it is water. It doesn't spread over
    the surface of the sea. It *is* the sea. Duh!

    According to morons like Dickbot, ice coverage expanding or ice coverage
    contracting are both signs of temperature increase!

    He must be a weird scientist. Ice expands as it freezes and decreases in
    volume as it melts. So any ice floating in water isn't going to do anything to
    the sea except maybe lower the sea level if enough melts...
    If all the snow and ice on Mt Erebus melted, we would see an increase >>> in sea levels.

    A barely significant rise Rich! Why you posted this is beyond me apart from
    your desire to show just what a fucking imbecile you are! My post was about ice
    on the oceans not on the land though in Antartica a lot of the ice idiots like
    you get excited about is actually resting on water! But that's okay you keep
    playing the ng clown we'll all keep laughing at you :)

    There is more melting from the Arctic than from Antarctica anyway.
    The arctic ice is all sea ice and when it melts it decreases in volume and cools the ocean.
    I wonder if Rich has an electronic message fed into him so he knows what his name is and how to get dressed in the morning? He seems to make stupid look good...

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 7 22:45:08 2023
    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 12:23:13 PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 16:43:51 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 11:26:24?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 16:07:32 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:44:51?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 8 June 2023 at 08:59:02 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 00:33:56 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/06/02/antarctic-ice-shelves-growing/?fbclid=IwAR0ynCxwn2tyLSE1SHbPfCjxWtpnV4yPDh1csget3FjXhl9E9GRJAUC9MYE
    It cools, it heats it does it all again and has been doing so for mellenia.
    And this
    https://waikanaewatch.org/2023/06/06/statistics-that-the-climatists-avoid/
    Greta go and find a real job.
    As the ice melts, it spreads further over the surface of the sea - >> >> > getting larger in surface area does not mean it is overall getting >> >> > colder.
    Dickbot has made some really stupid posts over the years but that one really takes the cake!

    Here's a clue, moron: When ice melts it is water. It doesn't spread over the surface of the sea. It *is* the sea. Duh!

    According to morons like Dickbot, ice coverage expanding or ice coverage contracting are both signs of temperature increase!

    He must be a weird scientist. Ice expands as it freezes and decreases in volume as it melts. So any ice floating in water isn't going to do anything to the sea except maybe lower the sea level if enough melts...
    If all the snow and ice on Mt Erebus melted, we would see an increase
    in sea levels.

    A barely significant rise Rich! Why you posted this is beyond me apart from your desire to show just what a fucking imbecile you are! My post was about ice on the oceans not on the land though in Antartica a lot of the ice idiots like you get excited
    about is actually resting on water! But that's okay you keep playing the ng clown we'll all keep laughing at you :)
    There is more melting from the Arctic than from Antarctica anyway.
    Again: SO_FUCKING_WHAT?! We were talking about sea ice till you did your usual trick andftried to divert the thread for some obscure political reason Rich. I do wish that for once in your useless fucking life you'd practice what you preach and stay on
    topic!!!

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to bowesjohn02@gmail.com on Thu Jun 8 20:59:23 2023
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 22:42:58 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 3:03:36?PM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 16:43:51 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 11:26:24?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 16:07:32 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:44:51?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 8 June 2023 at 08:59:02 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 00:33:56 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:


    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/06/02/antarctic-ice-shelves-growing/?fbclid=IwAR0ynCxwn2tyLSE1SHbPfCjxWtpnV4yPDh1csget3FjXhl9E9GRJAUC9MYE
    It cools, it heats it does it all again and has been doing so for >> >>> >> > >mellenia.
    And this

    https://waikanaewatch.org/2023/06/06/statistics-that-the-climatists-avoid/
    Greta go and find a real job.
    As the ice melts, it spreads further over the surface of the sea - >> >>> >> > getting larger in surface area does not mean it is overall getting >> >>> >> > colder.
    Dickbot has made some really stupid posts over the years but that one >> >>> >>really takes the cake!

    Here's a clue, moron: When ice melts it is water. It doesn't spread over
    the surface of the sea. It *is* the sea. Duh!

    According to morons like Dickbot, ice coverage expanding or ice coverage
    contracting are both signs of temperature increase!

    He must be a weird scientist. Ice expands as it freezes and decreases in
    volume as it melts. So any ice floating in water isn't going to do anything to
    the sea except maybe lower the sea level if enough melts...
    If all the snow and ice on Mt Erebus melted, we would see an increase
    in sea levels.

    A barely significant rise Rich! Why you posted this is beyond me apart from
    your desire to show just what a fucking imbecile you are! My post was about ice
    on the oceans not on the land though in Antartica a lot of the ice idiots like
    you get excited about is actually resting on water! But that's okay you keep
    playing the ng clown we'll all keep laughing at you :)

    There is more melting from the Arctic than from Antarctica anyway.
    The arctic ice is all sea ice and when it melts it decreases in volume and >> cools the ocean.
    I wonder if Rich has an electronic message fed into him so he knows what his name is and how to get dressed in the morning? He seems to make stupid look good...

    Settle petal, - Tony clearly understands a lot more than you do, John
    Bowes.

    The melting ice from the Arctic is indeed helping to cool the water
    around it down, but despite that overall world temperatures are
    rising, and have been for some time. Here in New Zealand we are losing
    our glaciers, and yes while a lot of sea ice is melting in Antarctica,
    so is some land ice melting as well.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to bowesjohn02@gmail.com on Thu Jun 8 21:35:22 2023
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 22:45:08 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 12:23:13?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 16:43:51 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 11:26:24?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 16:07:32 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:44:51?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 8 June 2023 at 08:59:02 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 00:33:56 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/06/02/antarctic-ice-shelves-growing/?fbclid=IwAR0ynCxwn2tyLSE1SHbPfCjxWtpnV4yPDh1csget3FjXhl9E9GRJAUC9MYE
    It cools, it heats it does it all again and has been doing so for mellenia.
    And this
    https://waikanaewatch.org/2023/06/06/statistics-that-the-climatists-avoid/
    Greta go and find a real job.
    As the ice melts, it spreads further over the surface of the sea - >> >> >> > getting larger in surface area does not mean it is overall getting >> >> >> > colder.
    Dickbot has made some really stupid posts over the years but that one really takes the cake!

    Here's a clue, moron: When ice melts it is water. It doesn't spread over the surface of the sea. It *is* the sea. Duh!

    According to morons like Dickbot, ice coverage expanding or ice coverage contracting are both signs of temperature increase!

    He must be a weird scientist. Ice expands as it freezes and decreases in volume as it melts. So any ice floating in water isn't going to do anything to the sea except maybe lower the sea level if enough melts...
    If all the snow and ice on Mt Erebus melted, we would see an increase
    in sea levels.

    A barely significant rise Rich! Why you posted this is beyond me apart from your desire to show just what a fucking imbecile you are! My post was about ice on the oceans not on the land though in Antartica a lot of the ice idiots like you get excited
    about is actually resting on water! But that's okay you keep playing the ng clown we'll all keep laughing at you :)
    There is more melting from the Arctic than from Antarctica anyway.
    Again: SO_FUCKING_WHAT?! We were talking about sea ice till you did your usual trick andftried to divert the thread for some obscure political reason Rich. I do wish that for once in your useless fucking life you'd practice what you preach and stay on
    topic!!!

    The arctic is largely sea ice, but with land ice in surrounding lands;
    the Antarctica has both sea and land ice. Changes to one part of the
    systems affect other parts; they are not independent. As the
    Introduction to the first article above says:

    "Ice shelves fringe three-quarters of the Antarctic coastline,
    providing buttressing support to the grounded ice and linking the ice
    sheet with the Southern Ocean. The calving front represents the
    seaward limit of the ice shelf edge and is the boundary of the
    Antarctic coastal margin. The calving front location (CFL) can change
    gradually through sustained growth or retreat (Cook and Vaughan, 2010)
    or more suddenly due to large events such as iceberg calving (Hogg and Gudmundsson, 2017) and ice shelf collapse (Rott et al., 1996; Rack and
    Rott, 2004; Padman et al., 2012). Mapping the time-variable calving
    front location on Antarctic ice shelves is important (i) for
    estimating the total ice shelf freshwater budget, (ii) as a precursor
    for dynamic instability and therefore ice sheet sea level
    contribution, (iii) as an indicator of changing ice shelf structural conditions, and (iv) as a proxy for changing ocean and atmospheric
    forcing."

    and a conclusion in Section 4: "This study has generated a
    comprehensive dataset of change in ice shelf area on 34 Antarctica ice
    shelves over the last decade. Overall, ice shelves on the Antarctic
    Peninsula and West Antarctica lost areas of 6693 km2 and 5563 km2, respectively, while East Antarctic ice shelves gained 3532 km2 of ice,
    and the large ice shelves of Ross, Ronne, and Filchner grew by 14 028
    km2 (total)."

    So sea ice and land ice are very much linked in Antarctica.
    As for the second reference above, it draws conclusions based on
    numbers in a table without showing any scientific references, ignores
    the reality that in many natural systems balance is fragile - sudden
    changes in one variable may have a disproportionate effect on other
    parts of that system. It is not worth wasting your time reading.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 8 03:24:01 2023
    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:36:22 PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 22:45:08 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 12:23:13?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 16:43:51 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 11:26:24?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 16:07:32 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:44:51?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 8 June 2023 at 08:59:02 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 00:33:56 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/06/02/antarctic-ice-shelves-growing/?fbclid=IwAR0ynCxwn2tyLSE1SHbPfCjxWtpnV4yPDh1csget3FjXhl9E9GRJAUC9MYE
    It cools, it heats it does it all again and has been doing so for mellenia.
    And this
    https://waikanaewatch.org/2023/06/06/statistics-that-the-climatists-avoid/
    Greta go and find a real job.
    As the ice melts, it spreads further over the surface of the sea -
    getting larger in surface area does not mean it is overall getting
    colder.
    Dickbot has made some really stupid posts over the years but that one really takes the cake!

    Here's a clue, moron: When ice melts it is water. It doesn't spread over the surface of the sea. It *is* the sea. Duh!

    According to morons like Dickbot, ice coverage expanding or ice coverage contracting are both signs of temperature increase!

    He must be a weird scientist. Ice expands as it freezes and decreases in volume as it melts. So any ice floating in water isn't going to do anything to the sea except maybe lower the sea level if enough melts...
    If all the snow and ice on Mt Erebus melted, we would see an increase >> >> in sea levels.

    A barely significant rise Rich! Why you posted this is beyond me apart from your desire to show just what a fucking imbecile you are! My post was about ice on the oceans not on the land though in Antartica a lot of the ice idiots like you get
    excited about is actually resting on water! But that's okay you keep playing the ng clown we'll all keep laughing at you :)
    There is more melting from the Arctic than from Antarctica anyway. >Again: SO_FUCKING_WHAT?! We were talking about sea ice till you did your usual trick andftried to divert the thread for some obscure political reason Rich. I do wish that for once in your useless fucking life you'd practice what you preach and stay on
    topic!!!
    <a load of typical Rich garbage of topic snipped>
    So fucking what? We were talking about sea ice which can't make a difference to sea levels no matter what bullshit you might post Rich and I'll bet I know a damn sight more about almost everything than you'll ever find the brain cells to understand as
    proved by your constant infantile and useless comments!

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  • From JohnO@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 8 13:20:42 2023
    On Thursday, 8 June 2023 at 21:00:23 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 22:42:58 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 3:03:36?PM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 16:43:51 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 11:26:24?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 16:07:32 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:44:51?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 8 June 2023 at 08:59:02 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 00:33:56 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:


    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/06/02/antarctic-ice-shelves-growing/?fbclid=IwAR0ynCxwn2tyLSE1SHbPfCjxWtpnV4yPDh1csget3FjXhl9E9GRJAUC9MYE
    It cools, it heats it does it all again and has been doing so for
    mellenia.
    And this

    https://waikanaewatch.org/2023/06/06/statistics-that-the-climatists-avoid/
    Greta go and find a real job.
    As the ice melts, it spreads further over the surface of the sea -
    getting larger in surface area does not mean it is overall getting
    colder.
    Dickbot has made some really stupid posts over the years but that one
    really takes the cake!

    Here's a clue, moron: When ice melts it is water. It doesn't spread over
    the surface of the sea. It *is* the sea. Duh!

    According to morons like Dickbot, ice coverage expanding or ice coverage
    contracting are both signs of temperature increase!

    He must be a weird scientist. Ice expands as it freezes and decreases in
    volume as it melts. So any ice floating in water isn't going to do anything to
    the sea except maybe lower the sea level if enough melts...
    If all the snow and ice on Mt Erebus melted, we would see an increase >> >>> in sea levels.

    A barely significant rise Rich! Why you posted this is beyond me apart from
    your desire to show just what a fucking imbecile you are! My post was about ice
    on the oceans not on the land though in Antartica a lot of the ice idiots like
    you get excited about is actually resting on water! But that's okay you keep
    playing the ng clown we'll all keep laughing at you :)

    There is more melting from the Arctic than from Antarctica anyway.
    The arctic ice is all sea ice and when it melts it decreases in volume and >> cools the ocean.
    I wonder if Rich has an electronic message fed into him so he knows what his name is and how to get dressed in the morning? He seems to make stupid look good...
    Settle petal, - Tony clearly understands a lot more than you do, John
    Bowes.

    The melting ice from the Arctic is indeed helping to cool the water
    around it down, but despite that overall world temperatures are
    rising, and have been for some time. Here in New Zealand we are losing
    our glaciers,

    Some are retreating and some are expanding. https://www.wgtn.ac.nz/news/2017/02/explaining-new-zealands-unusual-growing-glaciers#:~:text=Newly%20published%20research%20shows%20regional,while%20glaciers%20worldwide%20were%20shrinking.

    and yes while a lot of sea ice is melting in Antarctica,
    so is some land ice melting as well.

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  • From JohnO@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 8 13:17:30 2023
    On Thursday, 8 June 2023 at 11:26:24 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 16:07:32 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:44:51?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 8 June 2023 at 08:59:02 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 00:33:56 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/06/02/antarctic-ice-shelves-growing/?fbclid=IwAR0ynCxwn2tyLSE1SHbPfCjxWtpnV4yPDh1csget3FjXhl9E9GRJAUC9MYE
    It cools, it heats it does it all again and has been doing so for mellenia.
    And this
    https://waikanaewatch.org/2023/06/06/statistics-that-the-climatists-avoid/
    Greta go and find a real job.
    As the ice melts, it spreads further over the surface of the sea -
    getting larger in surface area does not mean it is overall getting
    colder.
    Dickbot has made some really stupid posts over the years but that one really takes the cake!

    Here's a clue, moron: When ice melts it is water. It doesn't spread over the surface of the sea. It *is* the sea. Duh!

    According to morons like Dickbot, ice coverage expanding or ice coverage contracting are both signs of temperature increase!

    He must be a weird scientist. Ice expands as it freezes and decreases in volume as it melts. So any ice floating in water isn't going to do anything to the sea except maybe lower the sea level if enough melts...
    If all the snow and ice on Mt Erebus melted, we would see an increase
    in sea levels.

    If your auntie had balls she'd be... still your auntie, probably.

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