Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a cabinet minister.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't apply to the left!
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a cabinet minister.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.htmlDavid Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich with his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. That leaves incompetence.
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15 AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a cabinet minister.
Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't apply to the left!https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.htmlDavid Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich with his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. That leaves incompetence.
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a >cabinet minister.The real question is this - is there an honest minister in this government?
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't apply to the left!
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a cabinet minister.David Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich with his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. That leaves incompetence.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's the Labour standard of accountability.
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a >>cabinet minister.The real question is this - is there an honest minister in this government?
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
On 2023-06-06, Tony <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:Maybe not, but the PM has stood Wood down. Points to the PM. It is a start of the Labour folks behaving properly.
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a >>cabinet minister.The real question is this - is there an honest minister in this government?
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
So now we can expect an apology. Maybe that would be a bridge too far.
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't apply to the left!
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a cabinet minister.David Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich with his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. That leaves incompetence.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's the Labour standard of accountability.john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along
these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under independent investment management he had no idea what holding were
held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him
with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and
Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for
different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been
involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were
thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>Wood is a minister. Key is not. Today's people are what matters.
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff and >>>in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't apply to the
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone >>> > >a cabinet minister.David Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich with his >>> >$13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. That leaves >>> >incompetence.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
left!
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the >>Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's the Labour
standard of accountability.
john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along
these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under >independent investment management he had no idea what holding were
held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him
with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and
Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine >company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for
different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been
involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were
thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
On 2023-06-06, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:No, they will continue to get away with whatever they can - he puapua, 3 or more waters, co-governance - all attacks on democracy. Vote them out.
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a >>>cabinet minister.The real question is this - is there an honest minister in this government?
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
Maybe not, but the PM has stood Wood down. Points to the PM. It is a start
of the Labour folks behaving properly.
So now we can expect an apology. Maybe that would be a bridge too far.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Key was Prime Minister when he was caught. ""Dirty Politics""
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>Wood is a minister. Key is not. Today's people are what matters.
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff and >>>>in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't apply to the
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone >>>> > >a cabinet minister.David Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich with his >>>> >$13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. That leaves >>>> >incompetence.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
left!
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the >>>Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's the Labour
standard of accountability.
john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along
these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under >>independent investment management he had no idea what holding were
held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him
with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and
Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine >>company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for
different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been >>involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were
thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
Wood has been caught out. End of story.
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 14:58:19 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:standards this is corruption and Wood will be removed from the house. No? OK, just more rank hypocrisy from Labour and it's resident apologist then.
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't apply to the left!
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a cabinet minister.David Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich with his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. That leaves incompetence.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's the Labour standard of accountability.
these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under
independent investment management he had no idea what holding were
held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him
with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and
Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine
company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for
different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been
involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were
thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
We are discussing a cabinet minister in 2023, not an opposition spokesman ten years ago, you brainless little shit stain. Try to catch up to the current decade.
But now that you have brought it into the discussion, Cullen called it corruption back then, when an opposition MP didn't correctly declare shares. If so then a minister with direct responsibility would be a far more serious case. Therefore by Labour
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 21:44:27 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>standards this is corruption and Wood will be removed from the house. No? OK, just more rank hypocrisy from Labour and it's resident apologist then.
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 14:58:19 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't apply to the left!
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a cabinet minister.David Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich with his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. That leaves incompetence.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's the Labour standard of accountability.
these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under
independent investment management he had no idea what holding were
held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him
with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and
Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine
company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for
different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been
involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were
thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
We are discussing a cabinet minister in 2023, not an opposition spokesman ten years ago, you brainless little shit stain. Try to catch up to the current decade.
But now that you have brought it into the discussion, Cullen called it corruption back then, when an opposition MP didn't correctly declare shares. If so then a minister with direct responsibility would be a far more serious case. Therefore by Labour
John Key was Prime Minister when it all blew up - together with allPast history and doesn't excuse Wood refusing to sell his airport shares for six bloody years. As usual Rich you lose because like every blind supporter of Labour your just a feral imbecile!
the fuss about tax avoidance through overseas trusts . . .
On Tue, 6 Jun 2023 04:42:36 -0000 (UTC), TonyWood should be fired. Period. Key did not benefit in any way from anything similar. You are lying.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Key was Prime Minister when he was caught. ""Dirty Politics""
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>wrote:Wood is a minister. Key is not. Today's people are what matters.
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff and >>>>>in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't apply >>>>>to the
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let >>>>> > >aloneDavid Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich with >>>>> >his
a cabinet minister.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
$13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. That leaves >>>>> >incompetence.
left!
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the >>>>Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's the >>>>Labour
standard of accountability.
john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along
these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under >>>independent investment management he had no idea what holding were
held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him
with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and
Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine >>>company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for >>>different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been >>>involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were
thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
Wood has been caught out. End of story.
identified the National Party as embodying ""river of filth"" tactics
- and it appears they have not learned from that exposure . . .
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 21:44:27 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>standards this is corruption and Wood will be removed from the house. No? OK, just more rank hypocrisy from Labour and it's resident apologist then.
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 14:58:19 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't apply to the left!
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a cabinet minister.David Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich with his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. That leaves incompetence.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's the Labour standard of accountability.
these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under
independent investment management he had no idea what holding were
held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him
with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and
Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine
company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for
different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been
involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were
thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
We are discussing a cabinet minister in 2023, not an opposition spokesman ten years ago, you brainless little shit stain. Try to catch up to the current decade.
But now that you have brought it into the discussion, Cullen called it corruption back then, when an opposition MP didn't correctly declare shares. If so then a minister with direct responsibility would be a far more serious case. Therefore by Labour
John Key was Prime Minister when it all blew up - together with all
the fuss about tax avoidance through overseas trusts . . .
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Rich lying? Guess Labour must be back in the shitter for there ignoring of the cabinet manual to bring Rich out of Labours sewer of filth....
On Tue, 6 Jun 2023 04:42:36 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Wood should be fired. Period. Key did not benefit in any way from anything similar. You are lying.Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Key was Prime Minister when he was caught. ""Dirty Politics""
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com> >>>wrote:Wood is a minister. Key is not. Today's people are what matters.
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff and
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let >>>>> > >aloneDavid Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich with >>>>> >his
a cabinet minister.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
$13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. That leaves
incompetence.
in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't apply
to the
left!
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the >>>>Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's the >>>>Labour
standard of accountability.
john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along >>>these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under >>>independent investment management he had no idea what holding were >>>held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him >>>with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and >>>Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine >>>company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for >>>different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been >>>involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were >>>thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is >>>probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
Wood has been caught out. End of story.
identified the National Party as embodying ""river of filth"" tactics
- and it appears they have not learned from that exposure . . .
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 22:59:40 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:Labour standards this is corruption and Wood will be removed from the house. No? OK, just more rank hypocrisy from Labour and it's resident apologist then.
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 21:44:27 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 14:58:19 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't apply to the left!
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a cabinet minister.David Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich with his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. That leaves incompetence.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's the Labour standard of accountability.
these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under >> independent investment management he had no idea what holding were
held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him
with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and
Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine >> company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for
different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been
involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were
thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
We are discussing a cabinet minister in 2023, not an opposition spokesman ten years ago, you brainless little shit stain. Try to catch up to the current decade.
But now that you have brought it into the discussion, Cullen called it corruption back then, when an opposition MP didn't correctly declare shares. If so then a minister with direct responsibility would be a far more serious case. Therefore by
This from a journalist more worthy of Hagar's reward: https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/opinion/mikes-minute-michael-wood-has-to-go/John Key was Prime Minister when it all blew up - together with allKey sold his Tranzrail shares in 2003. He did not own them when he became part of the government in 2008. Wood had beneficial ownership of his Airport shares while he was the government minister responsible for transport. You are a lying piece of shit.
the fuss about tax avoidance through overseas trusts . . .
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't apply to the left!
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a cabinet minister.David Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich with his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. That leaves incompetence.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's the Labour standard of accountability.john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along
these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under independent investment management he had no idea what holding were
held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him
with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and
Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for
different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been
involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were
thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a cabinet minister.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2023/06/wood_vs_key_share_scandal_compared.html
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't apply to the left!
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a cabinet minister.David Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich with his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. That leaves incompetence.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's the Labour standard of accountability.john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along
these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under independent investment management he had no idea what holding were
held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him
with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and
Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for
different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been
involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were
thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 21:44:27 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>standards this is corruption and Wood will be removed from the house. No? OK, just more rank hypocrisy from Labour and it's resident apologist then.
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 14:58:19 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't apply to the left!
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a cabinet minister.David Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich with his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. That leaves incompetence.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's the Labour standard of accountability.
these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under
independent investment management he had no idea what holding were
held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him
with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and
Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine
company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for
different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been
involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were
thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
We are discussing a cabinet minister in 2023, not an opposition spokesman ten years ago, you brainless little shit stain. Try to catch up to the current decade.
But now that you have brought it into the discussion, Cullen called it corruption back then, when an opposition MP didn't correctly declare shares. If so then a minister with direct responsibility would be a far more serious case. Therefore by Labour
John Key was Prime Minister when it all blew up - together with allGot a cite for this calumny Rich? Or are you just lying to try and excuse Wood's flagrant breach of the cabinet manual twelve bloody times!!!
the fuss about tax avoidance through overseas trusts . . .
On 2023-06-06, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a >>>cabinet minister.The real question is this - is there an honest minister in this government?
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
Maybe not, but the PM has stood Wood down. Points to the PM. It is a start
of the Labour folks behaving properly.
So now we can expect an apology. Maybe that would be a bridge too far.
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 2:58:19?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't apply to the left!
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a cabinet minister.David Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich with his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. That leaves incompetence.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's the Labour standard of accountability.
these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under
independent investment management he had no idea what holding were
held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him
with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and
Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine
company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for
different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been
involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were
thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
But how many times did he lie about selling an investment Rich? TWELVE? Or is that all we can expect for Labours useless and ethicless moral defunct ministers? He should be cleaning the caucus toilet with his tongue!!!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132248458/michael-wood-asked-12-times-by-cabinet-office-if-he-had-sold-auckland-airport-shares
On 6 Jun 2023 03:10:37 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-06, Tony <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a >>>cabinet minister.The real question is this - is there an honest minister in this government?
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
Maybe not, but the PM has stood Wood down. Points to the PM. It is a start >of the Labour folks behaving properly.
So now we can expect an apology. Maybe that would be a bridge too far. Hipkins squirms:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/michael-wood-auckland-airport-shares-opposition-calls-for-sacking-after-revelations-asked-to-sell-shares-12-times/DD4IG7M7KJCIVI5Y3F3TRQRKTI/
Seems Labour a bit short on the replacement talent for 6 months in
Cabinet. Surprising in the largest Parliamentary caucus in MMP
history.
I am normally a fairly non-partisan commentator but with the current
Labour government, nationwide co-government and vast levels of failure
to deliver this is not possible.
--
Crash McBash
On Tue, 6 Jun 2023 21:02:34 -0700 (PDT), John BowesYou (as usual) dragged Key into the thread. No mention in my post of him. Just the imbecilic feral Wood!
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 2:58:19?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't apply to the left!
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a cabinet minister.David Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich with his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. That leaves incompetence.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's the Labour standard of accountability.
these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under
independent investment management he had no idea what holding were
held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him
with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and
Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine
company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for
different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been
involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were
thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
But how many times did he lie about selling an investment Rich? TWELVE? Or is that all we can expect for Labours useless and ethicless moral defunct ministers? He should be cleaning the caucus toilet with his tongue!!!What did he John Key about? Plenty to the people of New Zealand, but
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132248458/michael-wood-asked-12-times-by-cabinet-office-if-he-had-sold-auckland-airport-shares
the thread is not about John Key - do try to keep your obsessions
under control. It has not been shown that Wood lied at all about his
shares - he did not sell them however, despite being asked to do it a
number of times.
On Wednesday, 7 June 2023 at 21:20:47 UTC+12, Crash wrote:PR joke. The government is being run by cabinet positions 1, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13 and 17. The rest are basically useless placeholders and tokens. The talent puddle is drying out in the sun.
On 6 Jun 2023 03:10:37 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-06, Tony <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Hipkins squirms:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a >> >>>cabinet minister.The real question is this - is there an honest minister in this government?
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
Maybe not, but the PM has stood Wood down. Points to the PM. It is a start >> >of the Labour folks behaving properly.
So now we can expect an apology. Maybe that would be a bridge too far.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/michael-wood-auckland-airport-shares-opposition-calls-for-sacking-after-revelations-asked-to-sell-shares-12-times/DD4IG7M7KJCIVI5Y3F3TRQRKTI/
Seems Labour a bit short on the replacement talent for 6 months in
Cabinet. Surprising in the largest Parliamentary caucus in MMP
history.
I am normally a fairly non-partisan commentator but with the current
Labour government, nationwide co-government and vast levels of failure
to deliver this is not possible.
--
Crash McBash
They're already scraping the bottom of the caucus barrel already with the likes of Ginny Anderson in Police and Willow-Jean Prime in Conservation. Then consider the tokenistic presence of Sepuloni and Davis nominally at ranking 2 and 3 - that's just a
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 13:28:04 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>PR joke. The government is being run by cabinet positions 1, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13 and 17. The rest are basically useless placeholders and tokens. The talent puddle is drying out in the sun.
wrote:
On Wednesday, 7 June 2023 at 21:20:47 UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On 6 Jun 2023 03:10:37 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-06, Tony <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone aThe real question is this - is there an honest minister in this government?
cabinet minister.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
Maybe not, but the PM has stood Wood down. Points to the PM. It is a start
of the Labour folks behaving properly.
So now we can expect an apology. Maybe that would be a bridge too far. >> Hipkins squirms:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/michael-wood-auckland-airport-shares-opposition-calls-for-sacking-after-revelations-asked-to-sell-shares-12-times/DD4IG7M7KJCIVI5Y3F3TRQRKTI/
Seems Labour a bit short on the replacement talent for 6 months in
Cabinet. Surprising in the largest Parliamentary caucus in MMP
history.
I am normally a fairly non-partisan commentator but with the current
Labour government, nationwide co-government and vast levels of failure
to deliver this is not possible.
--
Crash McBash
They're already scraping the bottom of the caucus barrel already with the likes of Ginny Anderson in Police and Willow-Jean Prime in Conservation. Then consider the tokenistic presence of Sepuloni and Davis nominally at ranking 2 and 3 - that's just a
Easy jibes - The Opposition has David Seymour who is dragging votesFollow your own demands Rich and get back on topic! The thread is about yet another useless, abusive Labour minister who doesn't think the cabinet manual is of importance to him. That is if he was capable of reading and comprehending it which is doubtful.
from National but has no-one else in his party that is known, then
Luxon and Willis - who disagree on policy, and Willis has taken over
from Steven Joyce as having a $1.5 billion hole in their finances -
yet to be explained other than by yet more spending cuts that they do
not want to identify . . .
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 21:44:27 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>standards this is corruption and Wood will be removed from the house. No? OK, just more rank hypocrisy from Labour and it's resident apologist then.
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 14:58:19 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't apply to the left!
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a cabinet minister.David Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich with his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. That leaves incompetence.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's the Labour standard of accountability.
these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under
independent investment management he had no idea what holding were
held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him
with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and
Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine
company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for
different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been
involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were
thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
We are discussing a cabinet minister in 2023, not an opposition spokesman ten years ago, you brainless little shit stain. Try to catch up to the current decade.
But now that you have brought it into the discussion, Cullen called it corruption back then, when an opposition MP didn't correctly declare shares. If so then a minister with direct responsibility would be a far more serious case. Therefore by Labour
John Key was Prime Minister when it all blew up - together with all
the fuss about tax avoidance through overseas trusts . . .
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 13:28:04 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>PR joke. The government is being run by cabinet positions 1, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13 and 17. The rest are basically useless placeholders and tokens. The talent puddle is drying out in the sun.
wrote:
On Wednesday, 7 June 2023 at 21:20:47 UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On 6 Jun 2023 03:10:37 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-06, Tony <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Hipkins squirms:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a >>> >>>cabinet minister.The real question is this - is there an honest minister in this government?
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
Maybe not, but the PM has stood Wood down. Points to the PM. It is a start >>> >of the Labour folks behaving properly.
So now we can expect an apology. Maybe that would be a bridge too far.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/michael-wood-auckland-airport-shares-opposition-calls-for-sacking-after-revelations-asked-to-sell-shares-12-times/DD4IG7M7KJCIVI5Y3F3TRQRKTI/
Seems Labour a bit short on the replacement talent for 6 months in
Cabinet. Surprising in the largest Parliamentary caucus in MMP
history.
I am normally a fairly non-partisan commentator but with the current
Labour government, nationwide co-government and vast levels of failure
to deliver this is not possible.
--
Crash McBash
They're already scraping the bottom of the caucus barrel already with the likes of Ginny Anderson in Police and Willow-Jean Prime in Conservation. Then consider the tokenistic presence of Sepuloni and Davis nominally at ranking 2 and 3 - that's just a
Easy jibes - The Opposition has David Seymour who is dragging votes
from National but has no-one else in his party that is known, then
Luxon and Willis - who disagree on policy, and Willis has taken over
from Steven Joyce as having a $1.5 billion hole in their finances -
yet to be explained other than by yet more spending cuts that they do
not want to identify . . .
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 9:06:44 AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a cabinet minister.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
Considering how many times the useless bugger was asked about the shares I'd go with dishonest! Twelve bloody times he was asked about them and twelve times he lied! If that isn't dishonesty then Rich isn't a lying bastard!!!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132248458/michael-wood-asked-12-times-by-cabinet-office-if-he-had-sold-auckland-airport-shares
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 13:28:04 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>PR joke. The government is being run by cabinet positions 1, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13 and 17. The rest are basically useless placeholders and tokens. The talent puddle is drying out in the sun.
wrote:
On Wednesday, 7 June 2023 at 21:20:47 UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On 6 Jun 2023 03:10:37 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-06, Tony <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone aThe real question is this - is there an honest minister in this government?
cabinet minister.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
Maybe not, but the PM has stood Wood down. Points to the PM. It is a start
of the Labour folks behaving properly.
So now we can expect an apology. Maybe that would be a bridge too far. >> Hipkins squirms:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/michael-wood-auckland-airport-shares-opposition-calls-for-sacking-after-revelations-asked-to-sell-shares-12-times/DD4IG7M7KJCIVI5Y3F3TRQRKTI/
Seems Labour a bit short on the replacement talent for 6 months in
Cabinet. Surprising in the largest Parliamentary caucus in MMP
history.
I am normally a fairly non-partisan commentator but with the current
Labour government, nationwide co-government and vast levels of failure
to deliver this is not possible.
--
Crash McBash
They're already scraping the bottom of the caucus barrel already with the likes of Ginny Anderson in Police and Willow-Jean Prime in Conservation. Then consider the tokenistic presence of Sepuloni and Davis nominally at ranking 2 and 3 - that's just a
Easy jibes - The Opposition has David Seymour who is dragging voteshttps://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2306/S00043/another-false-statement-means-wood-must-go.htm
from National but has no-one else in his party that is known, then
Luxon and Willis - who disagree on policy, and Willis has taken over
from Steven Joyce as having a $1.5 billion hole in their finances -
yet to be explained other than by yet more spending cuts that they do
not want to identify . . .
On Tue, 6 Jun 2023 21:02:34 -0700 (PDT), John BowesYou introduced John Key into the thread. Why do you persist in doing such obnoxious things?
<bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 2:58:19?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff >>> >>and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't apply to
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP letDavid Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich with >>> >> >his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. That leaves
alone a cabinet minister.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
incompetence.
the left!
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the >>> >Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's the Labour
standard of accountability.
these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under
independent investment management he had no idea what holding were
held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him
with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and
Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine
company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for
different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been
involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were
thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
But how many times did he lie about selling an investment Rich? TWELVE? Or is >>that all we can expect for Labours useless and ethicless moral defunct >>ministers? He should be cleaning the caucus toilet with his tongue!!! >>https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132248458/michael-wood-asked-12-times-by-cabinet-office-if-he-had-sold-auckland-airport-shares
What did he John Key about? Plenty to the people of New Zealand, but
the thread is not about John Key - do try to keep your obsessions
under control. It has not been shown that Wood lied at all about his
shares - he did not sell them however, despite being asked to do it a
number of times.
On 2023-06-06, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:After this fiasco it doesn't deserve to be pretty.
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 21:44:27 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 14:58:19 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff >>>> >>and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't apply to
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let >>>> >> > >alone a cabinet minister.David Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich with >>>> >> >his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. That leaves
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
incompetence.
the left!
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the >>>> >Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's the Labour
standard of accountability.
these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under >>>> independent investment management he had no idea what holding were
held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him
with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and
Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine >>>> company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for
different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been
involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were
thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
We are discussing a cabinet minister in 2023, not an opposition spokesman >>>ten years ago, you brainless little shit stain. Try to catch up to the current
decade.
But now that you have brought it into the discussion, Cullen called it >>>corruption back then, when an opposition MP didn't correctly declare shares. If
so then a minister with direct responsibility would be a far more serious case.
Therefore by Labour standards this is corruption and Wood will be removed from
the house. No? OK, just more rank hypocrisy from Labour and it's resident >>>apologist then.
John Key was Prime Minister when it all blew up - together with all
the fuss about tax avoidance through overseas trusts . . .
We can not g back into the past. It should have been assigned to history so >that we are able to move on. MP Wood's inability to declare and then sell
the shares with in a reasonable time is current. He/they are part of the >Government and there are rules which Govenment must obey to enable a smooth >running of the country.
The PM now to fire or support the stood down Minister, either way it is not >going to be pretty.
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 13:28:04 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>Completely off topic. If you want to discuss National then start a new thread. This is about Wood and Labour.
wrote:
On Wednesday, 7 June 2023 at 21:20:47 UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On 6 Jun 2023 03:10:37 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-06, Tony <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Hipkins squirms:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a >>> >>>cabinet minister.
The real question is this - is there an honest minister in thishttps://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
government?
Maybe not, but the PM has stood Wood down. Points to the PM. It is a start >>> >of the Labour folks behaving properly.
So now we can expect an apology. Maybe that would be a bridge too far.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/michael-wood-auckland-airport-shares-opposition-calls-for-sacking-after-revelations-asked-to-sell-shares-12-times/DD4IG7M7KJCIVI5Y3F3TRQRKTI/
Seems Labour a bit short on the replacement talent for 6 months in
Cabinet. Surprising in the largest Parliamentary caucus in MMP
history.
I am normally a fairly non-partisan commentator but with the current
Labour government, nationwide co-government and vast levels of failure
to deliver this is not possible.
--
Crash McBash
They're already scraping the bottom of the caucus barrel already with the >>likes of Ginny Anderson in Police and Willow-Jean Prime in Conservation. Then >>consider the tokenistic presence of Sepuloni and Davis nominally at ranking 2 >>and 3 - that's just a PR joke. The government is being run by cabinet positions
1, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13 and 17. The rest are basically useless placeholders and >>tokens. The talent puddle is drying out in the sun.
Easy jibes - The Opposition has David Seymour who is dragging votes
from National but has no-one else in his party that is known, then
Luxon and Willis - who disagree on policy, and Willis has taken over
from Steven Joyce as having a $1.5 billion hole in their finances -
yet to be explained other than by yet more spending cuts that they do
not want to identify . . .
On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 12:21:38?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:a PR joke. The government is being run by cabinet positions 1, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13 and 17. The rest are basically useless placeholders and tokens. The talent puddle is drying out in the sun.
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 13:28:04 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Wednesday, 7 June 2023 at 21:20:47 UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On 6 Jun 2023 03:10:37 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-06, Tony <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone aThe real question is this - is there an honest minister in this government?
cabinet minister.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
Maybe not, but the PM has stood Wood down. Points to the PM. It is a start
of the Labour folks behaving properly.
So now we can expect an apology. Maybe that would be a bridge too far. >> >> Hipkins squirms:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/michael-wood-auckland-airport-shares-opposition-calls-for-sacking-after-revelations-asked-to-sell-shares-12-times/DD4IG7M7KJCIVI5Y3F3TRQRKTI/
Seems Labour a bit short on the replacement talent for 6 months in
Cabinet. Surprising in the largest Parliamentary caucus in MMP
history.
I am normally a fairly non-partisan commentator but with the current
Labour government, nationwide co-government and vast levels of failure
to deliver this is not possible.
--
Crash McBash
They're already scraping the bottom of the caucus barrel already with the likes of Ginny Anderson in Police and Willow-Jean Prime in Conservation. Then consider the tokenistic presence of Sepuloni and Davis nominally at ranking 2 and 3 - that's just
doubtful...Easy jibes - The Opposition has David Seymour who is dragging votesFollow your own demands Rich and get back on topic! The thread is about yet another useless, abusive Labour minister who doesn't think the cabinet manual is of importance to him. That is if he was capable of reading and comprehending it which is
from National but has no-one else in his party that is known, then
Luxon and Willis - who disagree on policy, and Willis has taken over
from Steven Joyce as having a $1.5 billion hole in their finances -
yet to be explained other than by yet more spending cuts that they do
not want to identify . . .
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jun 2023 21:02:34 -0700 (PDT), John BowesYou introduced John Key into the thread. Why do you persist in doing such >obnoxious things?
<bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 2:58:19?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff >>>> >>and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't apply to
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let >>>> >> > >alone a cabinet minister.David Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich with >>>> >> >his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. That leaves
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
incompetence.
the left!
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the >>>> >Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's the Labour
standard of accountability.
these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under >>>> independent investment management he had no idea what holding were
held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him
with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and
Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine >>>> company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for
different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been
involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were
thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
But how many times did he lie about selling an investment Rich? TWELVE? Or is
that all we can expect for Labours useless and ethicless moral defunct >>>ministers? He should be cleaning the caucus toilet with his tongue!!! >>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132248458/michael-wood-asked-12-times-by-cabinet-office-if-he-had-sold-auckland-airport-shares
What did he John Key about? Plenty to the people of New Zealand, but
the thread is not about John Key - do try to keep your obsessions
under control. It has not been shown that Wood lied at all about his
shares - he did not sell them however, despite being asked to do it a >>number of times.
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 02:56:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-06, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:After this fiasco it doesn't deserve to be pretty.
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 21:44:27 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 14:58:19 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along >>>>>> these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under >>>>>> independent investment management he had no idea what holding were >>>>>> held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him >>>>>> with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and >>>>>> Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine >>>>>> company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff >>>>>> >>and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't apply to
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let >>>>>> >> > >alone a cabinet minister.David Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich with
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. That leaves
incompetence.
the left!
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the >>>>>> >Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's the Labour
standard of accountability.
different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been >>>>>> involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were
thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
We are discussing a cabinet minister in 2023, not an opposition spokesman >>>>>ten years ago, you brainless little shit stain. Try to catch up to the current
decade.
But now that you have brought it into the discussion, Cullen called it >>>>>corruption back then, when an opposition MP didn't correctly declare shares. If
so then a minister with direct responsibility would be a far more serious case.
Therefore by Labour standards this is corruption and Wood will be removed from
the house. No? OK, just more rank hypocrisy from Labour and it's resident >>>>>apologist then.
John Key was Prime Minister when it all blew up - together with all
the fuss about tax avoidance through overseas trusts . . .
We can not g back into the past. It should have been assigned to history so >>>that we are able to move on. MP Wood's inability to declare and then sell >>>the shares with in a reasonable time is current. He/they are part of the >>>Government and there are rules which Govenment must obey to enable a smooth >>>running of the country.
The PM now to fire or support the stood down Minister, either way it is not >>>going to be pretty.
It wasn't pretty; but it has now been closed; the shares were sold and >proceeds donated to a charity.
Of more interest now is where the
Auckland Council end up with the proposed sale of shares in Auckland >International Airport - which is the issue that probably led to the >shareholdings by Wood and others being identified.
On 2023-06-07, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 9:06:44?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a cabinet minister.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
Considering how many times the useless bugger was asked about the shares I'd go with dishonest! Twelve bloody times he was asked about them and twelve times he lied! If that isn't dishonesty then Rich isn't a lying bastard!!!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132248458/michael-wood-asked-12-times-by-cabinet-office-if-he-had-sold-auckland-airport-shares
While Wood is a fault for taking 2 years plus to sell the shares, it seems >that the Cabinet Office should have followed up, which they did do, and then >after the third request with out, yes all sold answer, they should have >escualted it to the PM.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Just a response to JohnO - the Michael Wood issue was not about other
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 13:28:04 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>Completely off topic. If you want to discuss National then start a new thread. >This is about Wood and Labour.
wrote:
On Wednesday, 7 June 2023 at 21:20:47 UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On 6 Jun 2023 03:10:37 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-06, Tony <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone a
cabinet minister.
The real question is this - is there an honest minister in thishttps://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
government?
Maybe not, but the PM has stood Wood down. Points to the PM. It is a start
of the Labour folks behaving properly.
So now we can expect an apology. Maybe that would be a bridge too far. >>>> Hipkins squirms:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/michael-wood-auckland-airport-shares-opposition-calls-for-sacking-after-revelations-asked-to-sell-shares-12-times/DD4IG7M7KJCIVI5Y3F3TRQRKTI/
Seems Labour a bit short on the replacement talent for 6 months in
Cabinet. Surprising in the largest Parliamentary caucus in MMP
history.
I am normally a fairly non-partisan commentator but with the current
Labour government, nationwide co-government and vast levels of failure >>>> to deliver this is not possible.
--
Crash McBash
They're already scraping the bottom of the caucus barrel already with the >>>likes of Ginny Anderson in Police and Willow-Jean Prime in Conservation. Then
consider the tokenistic presence of Sepuloni and Davis nominally at ranking 2
and 3 - that's just a PR joke. The government is being run by cabinet positions
1, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13 and 17. The rest are basically useless placeholders and >>>tokens. The talent puddle is drying out in the sun.
Easy jibes - The Opposition has David Seymour who is dragging votes
from National but has no-one else in his party that is known, then
Luxon and Willis - who disagree on policy, and Willis has taken over
from Steven Joyce as having a $1.5 billion hole in their finances -
yet to be explained other than by yet more spending cuts that they do
not want to identify . . .
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-06, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:After this fiasco it doesn't deserve to be pretty.
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 21:44:27 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 14:58:19 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff >>>>> >>and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't apply to
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let >>>>> >> > >alone a cabinet minister.David Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich with >>>>> >> >his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. That leaves
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
incompetence.
the left!
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the >>>>> >Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's the Labour
standard of accountability.
these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under >>>>> independent investment management he had no idea what holding were
held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him
with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and
Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine >>>>> company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for
different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been
involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were
thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
We are discussing a cabinet minister in 2023, not an opposition spokesman >>>>ten years ago, you brainless little shit stain. Try to catch up to the current
decade.
But now that you have brought it into the discussion, Cullen called it >>>>corruption back then, when an opposition MP didn't correctly declare shares. If
so then a minister with direct responsibility would be a far more serious case.
Therefore by Labour standards this is corruption and Wood will be removed from
the house. No? OK, just more rank hypocrisy from Labour and it's resident >>>>apologist then.
John Key was Prime Minister when it all blew up - together with all
the fuss about tax avoidance through overseas trusts . . .
We can not g back into the past. It should have been assigned to history so >>that we are able to move on. MP Wood's inability to declare and then sell >>the shares with in a reasonable time is current. He/they are part of the >>Government and there are rules which Govenment must obey to enable a smooth >>running of the country.
The PM now to fire or support the stood down Minister, either way it is not >>going to be pretty.
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 18:09:06 -0700 (PDT), John Bowesjust a PR joke. The government is being run by cabinet positions 1, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13 and 17. The rest are basically useless placeholders and tokens. The talent puddle is drying out in the sun.
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 12:21:38?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 13:28:04 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Wednesday, 7 June 2023 at 21:20:47 UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On 6 Jun 2023 03:10:37 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-06, Tony <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Hipkins squirms:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone aThe real question is this - is there an honest minister in this government?
cabinet minister.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
Maybe not, but the PM has stood Wood down. Points to the PM. It is a start
of the Labour folks behaving properly.
So now we can expect an apology. Maybe that would be a bridge too far.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/michael-wood-auckland-airport-shares-opposition-calls-for-sacking-after-revelations-asked-to-sell-shares-12-times/DD4IG7M7KJCIVI5Y3F3TRQRKTI/
Seems Labour a bit short on the replacement talent for 6 months in
Cabinet. Surprising in the largest Parliamentary caucus in MMP
history.
I am normally a fairly non-partisan commentator but with the current >> >> Labour government, nationwide co-government and vast levels of failure >> >> to deliver this is not possible.
--
Crash McBash
They're already scraping the bottom of the caucus barrel already with the likes of Ginny Anderson in Police and Willow-Jean Prime in Conservation. Then consider the tokenistic presence of Sepuloni and Davis nominally at ranking 2 and 3 - that's
doubtful...Easy jibes - The Opposition has David Seymour who is dragging votesFollow your own demands Rich and get back on topic! The thread is about yet another useless, abusive Labour minister who doesn't think the cabinet manual is of importance to him. That is if he was capable of reading and comprehending it which is
from National but has no-one else in his party that is known, then
Luxon and Willis - who disagree on policy, and Willis has taken over
from Steven Joyce as having a $1.5 billion hole in their finances -
yet to be explained other than by yet more spending cuts that they do
not want to identify . . .
Take that up with JohnO - he raised the issue of other Ministers thatDo stop being fucking stupid Rich! Just because you've once again made an utter bloody fool of yourself is no reason to go stupider than usual.
are not Michael Wood . . .
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 02:56:00 -0000 (UTC), TonyDon't be an even bigger imbecile than usual! As you well know Wood is the "river of filth"! Key never made that sort of comment against people who didn't support his policies and_you_know_it! You knew perfectly well I wasn't talking about John Key the
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:John Bowes introduced him - who else could "Mr "River of Filth" " be?
On Tue, 6 Jun 2023 21:02:34 -0700 (PDT), John BowesYou introduced John Key into the thread. Why do you persist in doing such >obnoxious things?
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 2:58:19?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along >>>> these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under >>>> independent investment management he had no idea what holding were
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let >>>> >> > >alone a cabinet minister.David Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich with
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. That leaves
incompetence.
and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't apply to
the left!
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the
Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's the Labour
standard of accountability.
held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him
with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and >>>> Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine >>>> company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for
different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been >>>> involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were
thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
But how many times did he lie about selling an investment Rich? TWELVE? Or is
that all we can expect for Labours useless and ethicless moral defunct >>>ministers? He should be cleaning the caucus toilet with his tongue!!! >>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132248458/michael-wood-asked-12-times-by-cabinet-office-if-he-had-sold-auckland-airport-shares
What did he John Key about? Plenty to the people of New Zealand, but
the thread is not about John Key - do try to keep your obsessions
under control. It has not been shown that Wood lied at all about his >>shares - he did not sell them however, despite being asked to do it a >>number of times.
Based on the disclosures in the book "Dirty Tricks" he realised that
his time as a politician was over; he took his money and ran, but
sadly National have gone back to that River, now using a range of
other organisations do they can pretend not to be involved.
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 18:09:06 -0700 (PDT), John Bowesjust a PR joke. The government is being run by cabinet positions 1, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13 and 17. The rest are basically useless placeholders and tokens. The talent puddle is drying out in the sun.
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 12:21:38?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 13:28:04 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Wednesday, 7 June 2023 at 21:20:47 UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On 6 Jun 2023 03:10:37 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-06, Tony <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Hipkins squirms:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone aThe real question is this - is there an honest minister in this government?
cabinet minister.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
Maybe not, but the PM has stood Wood down. Points to the PM. It is a start
of the Labour folks behaving properly.
So now we can expect an apology. Maybe that would be a bridge too far.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/michael-wood-auckland-airport-shares-opposition-calls-for-sacking-after-revelations-asked-to-sell-shares-12-times/DD4IG7M7KJCIVI5Y3F3TRQRKTI/
Seems Labour a bit short on the replacement talent for 6 months in
Cabinet. Surprising in the largest Parliamentary caucus in MMP
history.
I am normally a fairly non-partisan commentator but with the current >> >> Labour government, nationwide co-government and vast levels of failure >> >> to deliver this is not possible.
--
Crash McBash
They're already scraping the bottom of the caucus barrel already with the likes of Ginny Anderson in Police and Willow-Jean Prime in Conservation. Then consider the tokenistic presence of Sepuloni and Davis nominally at ranking 2 and 3 - that's
doubtful...Easy jibes - The Opposition has David Seymour who is dragging votesFollow your own demands Rich and get back on topic! The thread is about yet another useless, abusive Labour minister who doesn't think the cabinet manual is of importance to him. That is if he was capable of reading and comprehending it which is
from National but has no-one else in his party that is known, then
Luxon and Willis - who disagree on policy, and Willis has taken over
from Steven Joyce as having a $1.5 billion hole in their finances -
yet to be explained other than by yet more spending cuts that they do
not want to identify . . .
Take that up with JohnO - he raised the issue of other Ministers that
are not Michael Wood . . .
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 02:56:00 -0000 (UTC), TonyMr River of Filth was obviously minister Wood. If you don't understand that then you are alone in this country.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jun 2023 21:02:34 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:You introduced John Key into the thread. Why do you persist in doing such >>obnoxious things?
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 2:58:19?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff >>>>> >>and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't >>>>> >>apply to
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let >>>>> >> > >alone a cabinet minister.David Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich with >>>>> >> >his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. That >>>>> >> >leaves
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
incompetence.
the left!
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the >>>>> >Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's the >>>>> >Labour
standard of accountability.
these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under >>>>> independent investment management he had no idea what holding were
held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him
with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and
Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine >>>>> company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for
different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been
involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were
thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
But how many times did he lie about selling an investment Rich? TWELVE? Or >>>>is
that all we can expect for Labours useless and ethicless moral defunct >>>>ministers? He should be cleaning the caucus toilet with his tongue!!! >>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132248458/michael-wood-asked-12-times-by-cabinet-office-if-he-had-sold-auckland-airport-shares
What did he John Key about? Plenty to the people of New Zealand, but
the thread is not about John Key - do try to keep your obsessions
under control. It has not been shown that Wood lied at all about his >>>shares - he did not sell them however, despite being asked to do it a >>>number of times.
John Bowes introduced him - who else could "Mr "River of Filth" " be? Stupidity and off topic stuff removed.
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 03:05:34 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are the worst at that and you deserve to be singled out for it. JohnO rarely does it, you are a serial offender.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Just a response to JohnO - the Michael Wood issue was not about other
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 13:28:04 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>wrote:Completely off topic. If you want to discuss National then start a new >>thread.
On Wednesday, 7 June 2023 at 21:20:47 UTC+12, Crash wrote:
On 6 Jun 2023 03:10:37 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-06, Tony <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let alone >>>>> >>>a
cabinet minister.
The real question is this - is there an honest minister in thishttps://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
government?
Maybe not, but the PM has stood Wood down. Points to the PM. It is a >>>>> >start
of the Labour folks behaving properly.
So now we can expect an apology. Maybe that would be a bridge too far. >>>>> Hipkins squirms:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/michael-wood-auckland-airport-shares-opposition-calls-for-sacking-after-revelations-asked-to-sell-shares-12-times/DD4IG7M7KJCIVI5Y3F3TRQRKTI/
Seems Labour a bit short on the replacement talent for 6 months in
Cabinet. Surprising in the largest Parliamentary caucus in MMP
history.
I am normally a fairly non-partisan commentator but with the current >>>>> Labour government, nationwide co-government and vast levels of failure >>>>> to deliver this is not possible.
--
Crash McBash
They're already scraping the bottom of the caucus barrel already with the >>>>likes of Ginny Anderson in Police and Willow-Jean Prime in Conservation. >>>>Then
consider the tokenistic presence of Sepuloni and Davis nominally at ranking >>>>2
and 3 - that's just a PR joke. The government is being run by cabinet >>>>positions
1, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13 and 17. The rest are basically useless placeholders and >>>>tokens. The talent puddle is drying out in the sun.
Easy jibes - The Opposition has David Seymour who is dragging votes
from National but has no-one else in his party that is known, then
Luxon and Willis - who disagree on policy, and Willis has taken over
from Steven Joyce as having a $1.5 billion hole in their finances -
yet to be explained other than by yet more spending cuts that they do
not want to identify . . .
This is about Wood and Labour.
Labour politicians, but I note that you had no objection to JohnO
going off piste . . .
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 02:56:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-06, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:After this fiasco it doesn't deserve to be pretty.
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 21:44:27 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 14:58:19 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along >>>>>> these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under >>>>>> independent investment management he had no idea what holding were >>>>>> held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him >>>>>> with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and >>>>>> Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine >>>>>> company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for >>>>>> different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been >>>>>> involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were >>>>>> thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP letDavid Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich >>>>>> >> >with
alone a cabinet minister.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. >>>>>> >> >That leaves
incompetence.
and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't
apply to
the left!
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the
Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's >>>>>> >the Labour
standard of accountability.
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
We are discussing a cabinet minister in 2023, not an opposition spokesman
ten years ago, you brainless little shit stain. Try to catch up to the >>>>>current
decade.
But now that you have brought it into the discussion, Cullen called it >>>>>corruption back then, when an opposition MP didn't correctly declare >>>>>shares. If
so then a minister with direct responsibility would be a far more serious
case.
Therefore by Labour standards this is corruption and Wood will be removed
from
the house. No? OK, just more rank hypocrisy from Labour and it's resident
apologist then.
John Key was Prime Minister when it all blew up - together with all
the fuss about tax avoidance through overseas trusts . . .
We can not g back into the past. It should have been assigned to history so
that we are able to move on. MP Wood's inability to declare and then sell >>>the shares with in a reasonable time is current. He/they are part of the >>>Government and there are rules which Govenment must obey to enable a smooth
running of the country.
The PM now to fire or support the stood down Minister, either way it is not
going to be pretty.
It wasn't pretty; but it has now been closed; the shares were sold and >proceeds donated to a charity. Of more interest now is where theNo, of most interest now is whether Wood will be held accountable - I don't think Hipkins will do that - not surprising for this governmen.
Auckland Council end up with the proposed sale of shares in Auckland >International Airport - which is the issue that probably led to the >shareholdings by Wood and others being identified.
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 02:56:57 -0000 (UTC), TonyNo, of most interest now is whether Wood will be held accountable - I don't think Hipkins will do that - not surprising for this governmen.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-06, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:After this fiasco it doesn't deserve to be pretty.
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 21:44:27 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 14:58:19 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along >>>>>> these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under >>>>>> independent investment management he had no idea what holding were >>>>>> held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him >>>>>> with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and >>>>>> Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine >>>>>> company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff >>>>>> >>and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't >>>>>> >>apply to
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP let >>>>>> >> > >alone a cabinet minister.David Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich >>>>>> >> >with
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. >>>>>> >> >That leaves
incompetence.
the left!
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the >>>>>> >Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's >>>>>> >the Labour
standard of accountability.
different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been >>>>>> involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were
thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
We are discussing a cabinet minister in 2023, not an opposition spokesman >>>>>ten years ago, you brainless little shit stain. Try to catch up to the >>>>>current
decade.
But now that you have brought it into the discussion, Cullen called it >>>>>corruption back then, when an opposition MP didn't correctly declare >>>>>shares. If
so then a minister with direct responsibility would be a far more serious >>>>>case.
Therefore by Labour standards this is corruption and Wood will be removed >>>>>from
the house. No? OK, just more rank hypocrisy from Labour and it's resident >>>>>apologist then.
John Key was Prime Minister when it all blew up - together with all
the fuss about tax avoidance through overseas trusts . . .
We can not g back into the past. It should have been assigned to history so >>>that we are able to move on. MP Wood's inability to declare and then sell >>>the shares with in a reasonable time is current. He/they are part of the >>>Government and there are rules which Govenment must obey to enable a smooth >>>running of the country.
The PM now to fire or support the stood down Minister, either way it is not >>>going to be pretty.
It wasn't pretty; but it has now been closed; the shares were sold and >proceeds donated to a charity. Of more interest now is where the
Auckland Council end up with the proposed sale of shares in Auckland >International Airport - which is the issue that probably led to the >shareholdings by Wood and others being identified.
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 13:25:29 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>Completely irrelevant.
wrote:
On Friday, 9 June 2023 at 08:21:51 UTC+12, Tony wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 02:56:57 -0000 (UTC), TonyNo, of most interest now is whether Wood will be held accountable - I don't >>> think Hipkins will do that - not surprising for this governmen.
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-06, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:After this fiasco it doesn't deserve to be pretty.
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 21:44:27 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 14:58:19 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com> >>> >>>>>> wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along >>> >>>>>> these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading >>> >>>>>> >>stuff
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP >>> >>>>>> >> > >let
alone a cabinet minister.
David Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich >>> >>>>>> >> >withhttps://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. >>> >>>>>> >> >That leaves
incompetence.
and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules >>> >>>>>> >>don't
apply to
the left!
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach >>> >>>>>> >the
Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished.
That's
the Labour
standard of accountability.
under
independent investment management he had no idea what holding were >>> >>>>>> held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him >>> >>>>>> with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and >>> >>>>>> Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island >>> >>>>>>wine
company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for >>> >>>>>> different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been >>> >>>>>> involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were
thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
We are discussing a cabinet minister in 2023, not an opposition
spokesman
ten years ago, you brainless little shit stain. Try to catch up to the >>> >>>>>current
decade.
But now that you have brought it into the discussion, Cullen called it >>> >>>>>corruption back then, when an opposition MP didn't correctly declare >>> >>>>>shares. If
so then a minister with direct responsibility would be a far more
serious
case.
Therefore by Labour standards this is corruption and Wood will be
removed
from
the house. No? OK, just more rank hypocrisy from Labour and it's
resident
apologist then.
John Key was Prime Minister when it all blew up - together with all >>> >>>> the fuss about tax avoidance through overseas trusts . . .
We can not g back into the past. It should have been assigned to history >>> >>>so
that we are able to move on. MP Wood's inability to declare and then
sell
the shares with in a reasonable time is current. He/they are part of the >>> >>>Government and there are rules which Govenment must obey to enable a
smooth
running of the country.
The PM now to fire or support the stood down Minister, either way it is >>> >>>not
going to be pretty.
It wasn't pretty; but it has now been closed; the shares were sold and
proceeds donated to a charity. Of more interest now is where the
Auckland Council end up with the proposed sale of shares in Auckland
International Airport - which is the issue that probably led to the
shareholdings by Wood and others being identified.
Hipkins is screwed either way. If he leaves Wood in place, he's a sitting >>duck for merciless opposition mocking through to the election. If he chops >>Wood, then Labour lose what they consider to be <cough> one of their better >>performing <cough> ministers.
Apparently the Auditor-General's office was involved in advice that a
$3 million investment in Auckland International Airport (yes the same >company), was not sufficient to prevent the owner voting on whether
Auckland should sell its stake in the company, and that there was no
need for the $3m investment to be sold. One rule for on governing body
and another for a different body?
On Friday, 9 June 2023 at 08:21:51 UTC+12, Tony wrote:ministers.
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 02:56:57 -0000 (UTC), TonyNo, of most interest now is whether Wood will be held accountable - I don't >> think Hipkins will do that - not surprising for this governmen.
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-06, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:After this fiasco it doesn't deserve to be pretty.
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 21:44:27 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 14:58:19 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along >> >>>>>> these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP letDavid Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich >> >>>>>> >> >with
alone a cabinet minister.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest. >> >>>>>> >> >That leaves
incompetence.
and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't
apply to
the left!
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the
Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's >> >>>>>> >the Labour
standard of accountability.
independent investment management he had no idea what holding were
held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him
with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and >> >>>>>> Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine
company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for
different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been >> >>>>>> involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were
thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
We are discussing a cabinet minister in 2023, not an opposition spokesman
ten years ago, you brainless little shit stain. Try to catch up to the >> >>>>>current
decade.
But now that you have brought it into the discussion, Cullen called it >> >>>>>corruption back then, when an opposition MP didn't correctly declare
shares. If
so then a minister with direct responsibility would be a far more serious
case.
Therefore by Labour standards this is corruption and Wood will be removed
from
the house. No? OK, just more rank hypocrisy from Labour and it's resident
apologist then.
John Key was Prime Minister when it all blew up - together with all
the fuss about tax avoidance through overseas trusts . . .
We can not g back into the past. It should have been assigned to history so
that we are able to move on. MP Wood's inability to declare and then sell >> >>>the shares with in a reasonable time is current. He/they are part of the >> >>>Government and there are rules which Govenment must obey to enable a smooth
running of the country.
The PM now to fire or support the stood down Minister, either way it is not
going to be pretty.
It wasn't pretty; but it has now been closed; the shares were sold and
proceeds donated to a charity. Of more interest now is where the
Auckland Council end up with the proposed sale of shares in Auckland
International Airport - which is the issue that probably led to the
shareholdings by Wood and others being identified.
Hipkins is screwed either way. If he leaves Wood in place, he's a sitting duck for merciless opposition mocking through to the election. If he chops Wood, then Labour lose what they consider to be <cough> one of their better performing <cough>
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 13:25:29 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Friday, 9 June 2023 at 08:21:51 UTC+12, Tony wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 02:56:57 -0000 (UTC), TonyNo, of most interest now is whether Wood will be held accountable - I don't
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-06, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:After this fiasco it doesn't deserve to be pretty.
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 21:44:27 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com> >>> >>>> wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 14:58:19 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote: >>> >>>>>> >> On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote: >>> >>>>>> >> > On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along
Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that readingIncompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP
let
alone a cabinet minister.
David Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself richhttps://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
with
his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest.
That leaves
incompetence.
stuff
and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules
don't
apply to
the left!
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach
the
Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. >>> >>>>>> >That's
the Labour
standard of accountability.
these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust >>> >>>>>>under
independent investment management he had no idea what holding were
held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him
with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and
Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island >>> >>>>>>wine
company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for >>> >>>>>> different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been
involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were >>> >>>>>> thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is >>> >>>>>> probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
We are discussing a cabinet minister in 2023, not an opposition
spokesman
ten years ago, you brainless little shit stain. Try to catch up to the
current
decade.
But now that you have brought it into the discussion, Cullen called it
corruption back then, when an opposition MP didn't correctly declare
shares. If
so then a minister with direct responsibility would be a far more >>> >>>>>serious
case.
Therefore by Labour standards this is corruption and Wood will be >>> >>>>>removed
from
the house. No? OK, just more rank hypocrisy from Labour and it's >>> >>>>>resident
apologist then.
John Key was Prime Minister when it all blew up - together with all >>> >>>> the fuss about tax avoidance through overseas trusts . . .
We can not g back into the past. It should have been assigned to history
so
that we are able to move on. MP Wood's inability to declare and then >>> >>>sell
the shares with in a reasonable time is current. He/they are part of the
Government and there are rules which Govenment must obey to enable a >>> >>>smooth
running of the country.
The PM now to fire or support the stood down Minister, either way it is
not
going to be pretty.
It wasn't pretty; but it has now been closed; the shares were sold and >>> >proceeds donated to a charity. Of more interest now is where the
Auckland Council end up with the proposed sale of shares in Auckland >>> >International Airport - which is the issue that probably led to the
shareholdings by Wood and others being identified.
think Hipkins will do that - not surprising for this governmen.
Hipkins is screwed either way. If he leaves Wood in place, he's a sitting >>duck for merciless opposition mocking through to the election. If he chops >>Wood, then Labour lose what they consider to be <cough> one of their better
performing <cough> ministers.
Apparently the Auditor-General's office was involved in advice that aCompletely irrelevant.
$3 million investment in Auckland International Airport (yes the same >company), was not sufficient to prevent the owner voting on whether >Auckland should sell its stake in the company, and that there was no
need for the $3m investment to be sold. One rule for on governing body
and another for a different body?
The issue with Wood is his failure to do what he promised to do and had been requested to do by the appropriate parliamentary authority
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 13:25:29 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>Completely irrelevant.
wrote:
On Friday, 9 June 2023 at 08:21:51 UTC+12, Tony wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 02:56:57 -0000 (UTC), TonyNo, of most interest now is whether Wood will be held accountable - I don't
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-06, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:After this fiasco it doesn't deserve to be pretty.
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 21:44:27 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 14:58:19 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>>>> wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along >>>> >>>>>> these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust >>>> >>>>>>under
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote: >>>> >>>>>> >> > On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading >>>> >>>>>> >>stuffIncompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP >>>> >>>>>> >> > >let
alone a cabinet minister.
David Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself richhttps://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
with
his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest.
That leaves
incompetence.
and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules >>>> >>>>>> >>don't
apply to
the left!
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach
the
Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished.
That's
the Labour
standard of accountability.
independent investment management he had no idea what holding were >>>> >>>>>> held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him >>>> >>>>>> with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and >>>> >>>>>> Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island >>>> >>>>>>wine
company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for >>>> >>>>>> different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been >>>> >>>>>> involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were >>>> >>>>>> thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is >>>> >>>>>> probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
We are discussing a cabinet minister in 2023, not an opposition
spokesman
ten years ago, you brainless little shit stain. Try to catch up to the
current
decade.
But now that you have brought it into the discussion, Cullen called it
corruption back then, when an opposition MP didn't correctly declare >>>> >>>>>shares. If
so then a minister with direct responsibility would be a far more >>>> >>>>>serious
case.
Therefore by Labour standards this is corruption and Wood will be >>>> >>>>>removed
from
the house. No? OK, just more rank hypocrisy from Labour and it's
resident
apologist then.
John Key was Prime Minister when it all blew up - together with all >>>> >>>> the fuss about tax avoidance through overseas trusts . . .
We can not g back into the past. It should have been assigned to history
so
that we are able to move on. MP Wood's inability to declare and then >>>> >>>sell
the shares with in a reasonable time is current. He/they are part of the
Government and there are rules which Govenment must obey to enable a >>>> >>>smooth
running of the country.
The PM now to fire or support the stood down Minister, either way it is >>>> >>>not
going to be pretty.
It wasn't pretty; but it has now been closed; the shares were sold and >>>> >proceeds donated to a charity. Of more interest now is where the
Auckland Council end up with the proposed sale of shares in Auckland
International Airport - which is the issue that probably led to the
shareholdings by Wood and others being identified.
think Hipkins will do that - not surprising for this governmen.
Hipkins is screwed either way. If he leaves Wood in place, he's a sitting >>>duck for merciless opposition mocking through to the election. If he chops >>>Wood, then Labour lose what they consider to be <cough> one of their better >>>performing <cough> ministers.
Apparently the Auditor-General's office was involved in advice that a
$3 million investment in Auckland International Airport (yes the same >>company), was not sufficient to prevent the owner voting on whether >>Auckland should sell its stake in the company, and that there was no
need for the $3m investment to be sold. One rule for on governing body
and another for a different body?
The issue with Wood is his failure to do what he promised to do and had been >requested to do by the appropriate parliamentary authority
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 13:25:29 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>ministers.
wrote:
On Friday, 9 June 2023 at 08:21:51 UTC+12, Tony wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 02:56:57 -0000 (UTC), TonyNo, of most interest now is whether Wood will be held accountable - I don't
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-06-06, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:After this fiasco it doesn't deserve to be pretty.
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 21:44:27 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com> >> >>>> wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 14:58:19 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>> wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 10:35:59 UTC+12, John Bowes wrote:john Key is long gone from Parliament. He had a few incidents along
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:17:15?AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 09:06:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:Can't be JohnO! It's fairly obvious Labour believe that reading stuff
Incompetent or dishonest - either way he's unfit to be an MP letDavid Seymour has pointed out that Wood can't make himself rich
alone a cabinet minister.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/michael-wood-in-hot-water-over-holding-auckland-airport-shares-national-alleges-breach-of-rules.html
with
his $13k of shares despite his ministerial conflict of interest.
That leaves
incompetence.
and in particular the Cabinet manual is unnecessary as the rules don't
apply to
the left!
Based on how the Nash saga went, Mr "River of Filth" gets to breach the
Cabinet Manual at least two more times before being punished. That's
the Labour
standard of accountability.
these lines with claiming that as he had put is investment trust under
independent investment management he had no idea what holding were >> >>>>>> held. I certainly appeared that his "lawyer" friend who helped him >> >>>>>> with international trust 'arrangements' knew what was going on, and
Key himself clearly thought he still had shares in a South Island wine
company; and of course he was still able to discuss prospects for >> >>>>>> different companies with business 'friends' that just may have been
involved in investment decisions on his behalf. Perhaps you were >> >>>>>> thinking of Key with your 'river of filth' comment, but that is
probably going a little far even for you JohnO . . .
We are discussing a cabinet minister in 2023, not an opposition spokesman
ten years ago, you brainless little shit stain. Try to catch up to the
current
decade.
But now that you have brought it into the discussion, Cullen called it
corruption back then, when an opposition MP didn't correctly declare >> >>>>>shares. If
so then a minister with direct responsibility would be a far more serious
case.
Therefore by Labour standards this is corruption and Wood will be removed
from
the house. No? OK, just more rank hypocrisy from Labour and it's resident
apologist then.
John Key was Prime Minister when it all blew up - together with all >> >>>> the fuss about tax avoidance through overseas trusts . . .
We can not g back into the past. It should have been assigned to history so
that we are able to move on. MP Wood's inability to declare and then sell
the shares with in a reasonable time is current. He/they are part of the
Government and there are rules which Govenment must obey to enable a smooth
running of the country.
The PM now to fire or support the stood down Minister, either way it is not
going to be pretty.
It wasn't pretty; but it has now been closed; the shares were sold and >> >proceeds donated to a charity. Of more interest now is where the
Auckland Council end up with the proposed sale of shares in Auckland
International Airport - which is the issue that probably led to the
shareholdings by Wood and others being identified.
think Hipkins will do that - not surprising for this governmen.
Hipkins is screwed either way. If he leaves Wood in place, he's a sitting duck for merciless opposition mocking through to the election. If he chops Wood, then Labour lose what they consider to be <cough> one of their better performing <cough>
Apparently the Auditor-General's office was involved in advice that aIt has obviously slipped what passes for your mind rich,. But Wood was in breech of the cabinet manual and had been told to ditch the shares TWELVE times!
$3 million investment in Auckland International Airport (yes the same company), was not sufficient to prevent the owner voting on whether
Auckland should sell its stake in the company, and that there was no
need for the $3m investment to be sold. One rule for on governing body
and another for a different body?
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