https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/132157503/damien-grant-chris-hipkins-fails-the-moral-and-competence-tests-to-be-pmCan't fault an honest opinion. Damien Grant may not be a journalist but he's very good at doing what the so called journalists should be doing...
Nice to see Stuff starting to hedge their bets. Cynical? Probably but possibly
correct.
On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 8:56:16?AM UTC+12, Tony wrote:Well done, John Bowes - you got two things right!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/132157503/damien-grant-chris-hipkins-fails-the-moral-and-competence-tests-to-be-pmCan't fault an honest opinion. Damien Grant may not be a journalist but he's very good at doing what the so called journalists should be doing...
Nice to see Stuff starting to hedge their bets. Cynical? Probably but possibly
correct.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 14:40:36 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:What an entirely expected piece of hatred from you.
On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 8:56:16?AM UTC+12, Tony wrote:Well done, John Bowes - you got two things right!
Can't fault an honest opinion. Damien Grant may not be a journalist but he's >>>very good at doing what the so called journalists should be doing...Nice to see Stuff starting to hedge their bets. Cynical? Probably but >>>>possiblyhttps://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/132157503/damien-grant-chris-hipkins-fails-the-moral-and-competence-tests-to-be-pm
correct.
Yes it was pure opinion - there are few facts to justify the extremist
rant from the ACT supporter Damian Grant, but I share your view that
it was honest opinion. Also yes it is clear that Damien Grant is not a >>journalist, and any journalist that published anything like that
article and pretended that it was journalism should be censured by his
or her professional body.
Compare that "personal opinion"with some real journalism: >>https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300878655/not-under-your-jurisdiction-how-the-phenomenon-known-as-pseudolaw-is-clogging-up-courts
the quote: “Extremist rhetoric and ideas, alongside or without
conspiracy narratives, offer hollow but easy answers to soothe
concerns about uncertain futures or unsettling realities." could have
been talking about Damien Grant's articles, it does explain a couple
of the mistaken narratives. Bellis was in Afghanistan - she was a >>professional journalist who had fled one authoritarian regime and went
to Afghanistan, where despite being pregnant she ignored government >>warnings to either not go there or to return if they were in
Afghanistan - then finding herself in difficulties, expected the
government to bail her out at huge expense from the consequences of
her own decisions. As it was, she managed to use her dispute over her >>entitlement to be bailed out from the results of her own bad decisions
by exploiting the Taliban into giving them the opportunity to pretend
to be more generous than the New Zealand Government whose advice she
had ignored. So Damian Grant believes that it is the job of government
to let people make whatever decisions they want, regardless of
professional advice, but then be responsible for bailing them out when
it all goes wrong for them as a result.
Then there is the issue of school children not being at school. For a
start schools were closed , or decided themselves to close for the
safety of children during the worst of Covid in general, and later
when there were outbreaks of illness that the schools decided
themselves warranted either the school closing or some classes being
asked to stay at home. Places of work were encouraging those workers
that could to work from home, and also encouraging staff to stay at
home if they were ill - not just from Covid but with colds or flu; and >>schools, being aware that children pass infections more readily than >>adults, also advised parents to keep children home if anyone in the
family was ill. Many families did stay home, but they also stayed hone
is they did not have transport due to busses not running due to
drivers being infected . . .
So now we have a freedumb supporter like Damien Grand saying that
schools and employers and schools were wrong to be concerned about the >>health of workers and customers (including school children), and that >>restrictions should have accepted higher health problems and deaths
as the 'price' for his freedumbs.
Then we have his pet Charter Schools beef. The schools that were
closed was because they were not meeting education standards, or that
they had not attracted enough pupils to be viable. In a few cases, it
was discovered that in their haste to push profit to private entities,
the National-led government had not covered the legal side very well - >>money that had been granted to build premises was in some cases not
able to be recovered, or the building taken back by government - yet >>National claim to know about commercial contracts . . .
So much for the truth emerging through a biassed Brash acolyte ACT >>supporter . . .
You hate honesty because it makes you look like the repeat liar you are proven >to be.
You hate anybody who criticises one of your phony heroes and most of all you >hate it when someone like Grant, who has significantly more itellect, >education, honesty and talent than you gets a chance to publish.
Your diatribe above is mere opinion, you know, that thing you love to >critricise others for daring to have.
Your response is full of lies, innuendo and jealousy - what a crock you are. Oh I forgot - and your usual diet of sarcasm.
On Sat, 27 May 2023 14:40:36 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 8:56:16?AM UTC+12, Tony wrote:Well done, John Bowes - you got two things right!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/132157503/damien-grant-chris-hipkins-fails-the-moral-and-competence-tests-to-be-pmCan't fault an honest opinion. Damien Grant may not be a journalist but he's very good at doing what the so called journalists should be doing...
Nice to see Stuff starting to hedge their bets. Cynical? Probably but possibly
correct.
Yes it was pure opinion - there are few facts to justify the extremist
rant from the ACT supporter Damian Grant, but I share your view that
it was honest opinion. Also yes it is clear that Damien Grant is not a journalist, and any journalist that published anything like that
article and pretended that it was journalism should be censured by his
or her professional body.
Compare that "personal opinion"with some real journalism: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300878655/not-under-your-jurisdiction-how-the-phenomenon-known-as-pseudolaw-is-clogging-up-courts
On Sat, 27 May 2023 14:40:36 -0700 (PDT), John BowesWhat an entirely expected piece of hatred from you.
<bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 8:56:16?AM UTC+12, Tony wrote:Well done, John Bowes - you got two things right!
Can't fault an honest opinion. Damien Grant may not be a journalist but he's >>very good at doing what the so called journalists should be doing...Nice to see Stuff starting to hedge their bets. Cynical? Probably but >>>possiblyhttps://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/132157503/damien-grant-chris-hipkins-fails-the-moral-and-competence-tests-to-be-pm
correct.
Yes it was pure opinion - there are few facts to justify the extremist
rant from the ACT supporter Damian Grant, but I share your view that
it was honest opinion. Also yes it is clear that Damien Grant is not a >journalist, and any journalist that published anything like that
article and pretended that it was journalism should be censured by his
or her professional body.
Compare that "personal opinion"with some real journalism: >https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300878655/not-under-your-jurisdiction-how-the-phenomenon-known-as-pseudolaw-is-clogging-up-courts
the quote: “Extremist rhetoric and ideas, alongside or without
conspiracy narratives, offer hollow but easy answers to soothe
concerns about uncertain futures or unsettling realities." could have
been talking about Damien Grant's articles, it does explain a couple
of the mistaken narratives. Bellis was in Afghanistan - she was a >professional journalist who had fled one authoritarian regime and went
to Afghanistan, where despite being pregnant she ignored government
warnings to either not go there or to return if they were in
Afghanistan - then finding herself in difficulties, expected the
government to bail her out at huge expense from the consequences of
her own decisions. As it was, she managed to use her dispute over her >entitlement to be bailed out from the results of her own bad decisions
by exploiting the Taliban into giving them the opportunity to pretend
to be more generous than the New Zealand Government whose advice she
had ignored. So Damian Grant believes that it is the job of government
to let people make whatever decisions they want, regardless of
professional advice, but then be responsible for bailing them out when
it all goes wrong for them as a result.
Then there is the issue of school children not being at school. For a
start schools were closed , or decided themselves to close for the
safety of children during the worst of Covid in general, and later
when there were outbreaks of illness that the schools decided
themselves warranted either the school closing or some classes being
asked to stay at home. Places of work were encouraging those workers
that could to work from home, and also encouraging staff to stay at
home if they were ill - not just from Covid but with colds or flu; and >schools, being aware that children pass infections more readily than
adults, also advised parents to keep children home if anyone in the
family was ill. Many families did stay home, but they also stayed hone
is they did not have transport due to busses not running due to
drivers being infected . . .
So now we have a freedumb supporter like Damien Grand saying that
schools and employers and schools were wrong to be concerned about the
health of workers and customers (including school children), and that >restrictions should have accepted higher health problems and deaths
as the 'price' for his freedumbs.
Then we have his pet Charter Schools beef. The schools that were
closed was because they were not meeting education standards, or that
they had not attracted enough pupils to be viable. In a few cases, it
was discovered that in their haste to push profit to private entities,
the National-led government had not covered the legal side very well -
money that had been granted to build premises was in some cases not
able to be recovered, or the building taken back by government - yet
National claim to know about commercial contracts . . .
So much for the truth emerging through a biassed Brash acolyte ACT
supporter . . .
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