https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132123637/national-using-ai-for-attack-ads-the-ai-political-campaign-has-arrived?
and https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/05/national-uses-realistic-looking-ai-generated-health-workers-scared-woman-to-front-attack-ads.html


There go National again - it is not clear whether this is their Dirty
Tricks group again, or whether they are just following Trump and the Republicans, but thankfully their use of misleading photographs has
been picked up by our media. Either Luxon hasn't learned the Trump
lessons about plausible deniability, or as the media seem to believe
he is just out of touch - perhaps it has been deliberately kept from
him.

Labour and the Green Party have said that they do not use AI in their
ads, I would expect they would discuss this internally before taking
that step to the dark side . . .

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On Tue, 23 May 2023 21:18:48 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132123637/national-using-ai-for-attack-ads-the-ai-political-campaign-has-arrived?
and >https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/05/national-uses-realistic-looking-ai-generated-health-workers-scared-woman-to-front-attack-ads.html

There go National again - it is not clear whether this is their Dirty
Tricks group again, or whether they are just following Trump and the >Republicans, but thankfully their use of misleading photographs has
been picked up by our media. Either Luxon hasn't learned the Trump
lessons about plausible deniability, or as the media seem to believe
he is just out of touch - perhaps it has been deliberately kept from
him.

While AI is not a preference that I would support, your objection to
its use is not of AI but the message that is conveyed in the ads that
you have very obviously failed to comment on.

Labour and the Green Party have said that they do not use AI in their
ads, I would expect they would discuss this internally before taking
that step to the dark side . . .

Note that the Greens and Labour say they do not use AI currently but significant by its absence is any commitment that this will continue.
There is not a lot of difference between this type of content and the
use of imagery commonly found in movies such as Toy Story and Avatar.

My bet is that if such techniques prove to successfully move public
opinion both Labour and the Greens will be using it in the future.

Either way, it is not the means used to produce the ads that matters,
it is the message that is conveyed.


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Crash McBash

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Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132123637/national-using-ai-for-attack-ads-the-ai-political-campaign-has-arrived?

and >https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/05/national-uses-realistic-looking-ai-generated-health-workers-scared-woman-to-front-attack-ads.html

There go National again - it is not clear whether this is their Dirty
Tricks group again, or whether they are just following Trump and the >Republicans, but thankfully their use of misleading photographs has
been picked up by our media. Either Luxon hasn't learned the Trump
lessons about plausible deniability, or as the media seem to believe
he is just out of touch - perhaps it has been deliberately kept from
him.

Labour and the Green Party have said that they do not use AI in their
ads, I would expect they would discuss this internally before taking
that step to the dark side . . .

What a silly post. AI is all over the place, I don't particularly like it but "the dark side" how silly!
It is just the use of available technology. So long as nobody tells lies all is good - hint (the lies bit of course).

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On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 9:18:52 PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132123637/national-using-ai-for-attack-ads-the-ai-political-campaign-has-arrived?
and https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/05/national-uses-realistic-looking-ai-generated-health-workers-scared-woman-to-front-attack-ads.html

There go National again - it is not clear whether this is their Dirty
Tricks group again, or whether they are just following Trump and the Republicans, but thankfully their use of misleading photographs has
been picked up by our media. Either Luxon hasn't learned the Trump
lessons about plausible deniability, or as the media seem to believe
he is just out of touch - perhaps it has been deliberately kept from
him.

So you're quite happy for Labour to deception in it's add campaigns but god help us if National party uses a new technique? Or are you just pissed that Labour didn't use AI and instead uses stock photos from overseas and make extravagant claims that don'
t match reality?
The only one out of touch is you and Labour Rich..

Labour and the Green Party have said that they do not use AI in their
ads, I would expect they would discuss this internally before taking
that step to the dark side . . .

What is so dark about it Rich? At least you haven't claimed it's undemocratic as one Green supporter has! Guess stupidity runs rife in the left!

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On 2023-05-23, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

On Tue, 23 May 2023 21:18:48 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132123637/national-using-ai-for-attack-ads-the-ai-political-campaign-has-arrived?
and >>https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/05/national-uses-realistic-looking-ai-generated-health-workers-scared-woman-to-front-attack-ads.html


There go National again - it is not clear whether this is their Dirty >>Tricks group again, or whether they are just following Trump and the >>Republicans, but thankfully their use of misleading photographs has
been picked up by our media. Either Luxon hasn't learned the Trump
lessons about plausible deniability, or as the media seem to believe
he is just out of touch - perhaps it has been deliberately kept from
him.

While AI is not a preference that I would support, your objection to
its use is not of AI but the message that is conveyed in the ads that
you have very obviously failed to comment on.

Here we have the start that AI is the bad guy/person. As has been pointed
out in this thread AI is technology, and technology is netural. The task
before humanity is to understand where it might go and to agree on some control.

Labour and the Green Party have said that they do not use AI in their
ads, I would expect they would discuss this internally before taking
that step to the dark side . . .

Note that the Greens and Labour say they do not use AI currently but significant by its absence is any commitment that this will continue.

They have not thought this far, probably.

There is not a lot of difference between this type of content and the
use of imagery commonly found in movies such as Toy Story and Avatar.

My bet is that if such techniques prove to successfully move public
opinion both Labour and the Greens will be using it in the future.

Of course they will.

Either way, it is not the means used to produce the ads that matters,
it is the message that is conveyed.

Which Rich seems to be unwilling to point out the flaws in the message.

Remember that we have had cartoons in poltical ads. Reds dancing on the bed.

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