• Re: Is it credible?

    From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Tony on Sun May 21 15:37:57 2023
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 10:28:16 AM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GXvV6Pybns
    Happening in the USA apparently, but we are told not here - is that credible?
    considering how many lies we've had frm this government it wouldn't surprise me they're hiding data from us.

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  • From greybeard@21:1/5 to John Bowes on Mon May 22 10:57:00 2023
    On 22/05/23 10:37, John Bowes wrote:
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 10:28:16 AM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GXvV6Pybns
    Happening in the USA apparently, but we are told not here - is that credible?
    considering how many lies we've had frm this government it wouldn't surprise me they're hiding data from us.



    Notice immediately under the video a " get the latest on covid 19 from
    the NZ government"
    The government dis-information project wants to correct the 'lies'.
    Remember: there is only ONE source of truth.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 21 22:28:12 2023
    XPost: nz.politics

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GXvV6Pybns
    Happening in the USA apparently, but we are told not here - is that credible?

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to greybeard on Mon May 22 00:06:09 2023
    On 2023-05-21, greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
    On 22/05/23 10:37, John Bowes wrote:
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 10:28:16 AM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GXvV6Pybns
    Happening in the USA apparently, but we are told not here - is that credible?
    considering how many lies we've had frm this government it wouldn't surprise me they're hiding data from us.



    Notice immediately under the video a " get the latest on covid 19 from
    the NZ government"
    The government dis-information project wants to correct the 'lies'.
    Remember: there is only ONE source of truth.

    That note has been under all the Covid-19 related You-tube videos which have been allowed on.

    This controlling is wide spread. Twitter until Elon's purchase, You Tube, Facebook etc.

    There is no question, beyond reasonable doubt scandalous things are
    happening.

    Time is still working on getting them free.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Gordon on Mon May 22 00:14:19 2023
    Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    On 2023-05-21, greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
    On 22/05/23 10:37, John Bowes wrote:
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 10:28:16 AM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GXvV6Pybns
    Happening in the USA apparently, but we are told not here - is that >>>>credible?
    considering how many lies we've had frm this government it wouldn't >>>surprise me they're hiding data from us.



    Notice immediately under the video a " get the latest on covid 19 from
    the NZ government"
    The government dis-information project wants to correct the 'lies'.
    Remember: there is only ONE source of truth.

    That note has been under all the Covid-19 related You-tube videos which have >been allowed on.

    This controlling is wide spread. Twitter until Elon's purchase, You Tube, >Facebook etc.

    There is no question, beyond reasonable doubt scandalous things are >happening.
    Real evil is afoot, not only here in New Zealand but also internationally.

    Time is still working on getting them free.

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Mon May 22 11:39:59 2023
    On Sun, 21 May 2023 22:28:12 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GXvV6Pybns
    Happening in the USA apparently, but we are told not here - is that credible?

    There is certainly solid evidence that the increased numbers correlate
    to the emergence and use of Covid vaccines. Until there is a proven
    link to the cause of the increases we an only speculate.

    So the numbers are cause for concern. The next step is to connect the
    causes to the numbers.


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    Crash McBash

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Crash on Mon May 22 00:22:43 2023
    On 2023-05-21, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 21 May 2023 22:28:12 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GXvV6Pybns
    Happening in the USA apparently, but we are told not here - is that credible?

    There is certainly solid evidence that the increased numbers correlate
    to the emergence and use of Covid vaccines. Until there is a proven
    link to the cause of the increases we an only speculate.

    First of all we need a free and open debate with all the data on the table.

    As pointed out there has only been done one complete autopsy. Many thousands are needed to get the big picture. Without autopsies there is no science.


    So the numbers are cause for concern. The next step is to connect the
    causes to the numbers.

    First of all, suggesting that the vaccines might be a cause without causing
    a cancel response is needed.

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Tony on Mon May 22 00:16:26 2023
    On 2023-05-21, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GXvV6Pybns
    Happening in the USA apparently, but we are told not here - is that credible?

    Well to the people who wish/are cancelling this information, yes.

    Why should it not happen in NZ? Same humans, same vaccine.

    Note that interview is a a year old. Many people are on the case, there is a group in the EU who are really on the case.

    Andrew Bridgen's UK MP has battled to get a debate going in the Chamber of Commons, and got one after 156,000 signatures on a partition. He has been tossed out of his party for just asking the question, what is the story.

    Excess deaths are still happening and no one wants to take about it, apart
    from those who are asking the questions about it.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to Gordon on Mon May 22 13:44:01 2023
    On 22 May 2023 00:16:26 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-05-21, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GXvV6Pybns
    Happening in the USA apparently, but we are told not here - is that credible?

    Well to the people who wish/are cancelling this information, yes.

    Why should it not happen in NZ? Same humans, same vaccine.

    Note that interview is a a year old. Many people are on the case, there is a >group in the EU who are really on the case.

    Andrew Bridgen's UK MP has battled to get a debate going in the Chamber of >Commons, and got one after 156,000 signatures on a partition. He has been >tossed out of his party for just asking the question, what is the story.

    Excess deaths are still happening and no one wants to take about it, apart >from those who are asking the questions about it.

    Excess deaths were discussed in another thread recently. The
    statistics have got worse in New Zealand as they have overseas. Internationally, excess deaths for many countries have been measured,
    including the UK, USA and New Zealand, giving cumulative data on the
    difference from the start of Covid. For New Zealand, we achieved fewer
    deaths than normal, largely because we had effective lock downs that
    took us through the winter preiod where usually deaths are higher due
    to winter illnesses - because of isolation and masks etc, our deaths
    reduced from expected levels, and we built up 'excess' deaths to
    around negative 500 up until around March last year, when the major
    reductions in Covid precautions happened. Since then our experience
    has declined - we have now reversed the good level of 500 fewer deaths
    than expected, and now have a cumulative result of around 50
    additional deaths - over the whole period from the beginning of Covid.
    One possible reason for the slightly higher number of deaths may be
    fewer people having Covid injections, but that is a separate issue.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Mon May 22 02:23:30 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 22 May 2023 00:16:26 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-05-21, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GXvV6Pybns
    Happening in the USA apparently, but we are told not here - is that >>>credible?

    Well to the people who wish/are cancelling this information, yes.

    Why should it not happen in NZ? Same humans, same vaccine.

    Note that interview is a a year old. Many people are on the case, there is a >>group in the EU who are really on the case.

    Andrew Bridgen's UK MP has battled to get a debate going in the Chamber of >>Commons, and got one after 156,000 signatures on a partition. He has been >>tossed out of his party for just asking the question, what is the story.

    Excess deaths are still happening and no one wants to take about it, apart >>from those who are asking the questions about it.

    Excess deaths were discussed in another thread recently. The
    statistics have got worse in New Zealand as they have overseas. >Internationally, excess deaths for many countries have been measured, >including the UK, USA and New Zealand, giving cumulative data on the >difference from the start of Covid. For New Zealand, we achieved fewer
    deaths than normal, largely because we had effective lock downs that
    took us through the winter preiod where usually deaths are higher due
    to winter illnesses - because of isolation and masks etc, our deaths
    reduced from expected levels, and we built up 'excess' deaths to
    around negative 500 up until around March last year, when the major >reductions in Covid precautions happened. Since then our experience
    has declined - we have now reversed the good level of 500 fewer deaths
    than expected, and now have a cumulative result of around 50
    additional deaths - over the whole period from the beginning of Covid.
    One possible reason for the slightly higher number of deaths may be
    fewer people having Covid injections, but that is a separate issue.
    Head buried firmly in your own version of sand I see. Ignore the science, ignore the maths and all will be well. Right?

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