• Seymour at his best

    From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 13 09:43:17 2023
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300876220/david-seymours-interview-on-voice-for-freedom-radio-station-is-fascinating

    This interview allowed Seymour to demonstrate his acceptance that
    others may have views he does not share, showing that he can be closer
    to Green Party or Labour tolerance levels than National, while not
    needing to defend his less attractive economic views. In this
    interview Seymour shows the benefit of his experience, but at the same
    time provides a contrast to the has-been and never-will-be politicians
    that are Peters and Luxon. Seymour also knows that a vote from the
    idiot fringe has just as much value as one from those that share his
    marginal views on other issues.

    The interview could almost have been planned to result in a Stuff
    report from Charlie Mitchell - see an earlier article by him here: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300841258/rip-woke-media-an-examination-of-voices-for-freedoms-web-radio-channel

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 12 15:39:15 2023
    On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 9:49:33 AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300876220/david-seymours-interview-on-voice-for-freedom-radio-station-is-fascinating

    This interview allowed Seymour to demonstrate his acceptance that
    others may have views he does not share, showing that he can be closer
    to Green Party or Labour tolerance levels than National, while not
    needing to defend his less attractive economic views. In this
    interview Seymour shows the benefit of his experience, but at the same
    time provides a contrast to the has-been and never-will-be politicians
    that are Peters and Luxon. Seymour also knows that a vote from the
    idiot fringe has just as much value as one from those that share his marginal views on other issues.

    The interview could almost have been planned to result in a Stuff
    report from Charlie Mitchell - see an earlier article by him here: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300841258/rip-woke-media-an-examination-of-voices-for-freedoms-web-radio-channel
    What a load of twaddle! Seymour is as far more tolerant than the dictatorial Labour and Greens! It's a surprise to many that Stuff reported on this but on reading it it's just another Stuff attack on a right wing politician though a rather weak one.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to bowesjohn02@gmail.com on Sat May 13 11:33:56 2023
    On Fri, 12 May 2023 15:39:15 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 9:49:33?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300876220/david-seymours-interview-on-voice-for-freedom-radio-station-is-fascinating

    This interview allowed Seymour to demonstrate his acceptance that
    others may have views he does not share, showing that he can be closer
    to Green Party or Labour tolerance levels than National, while not
    needing to defend his less attractive economic views. In this
    interview Seymour shows the benefit of his experience, but at the same
    time provides a contrast to the has-been and never-will-be politicians
    that are Peters and Luxon. Seymour also knows that a vote from the
    idiot fringe has just as much value as one from those that share his
    marginal views on other issues.

    The interview could almost have been planned to result in a Stuff
    report from Charlie Mitchell - see an earlier article by him here:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300841258/rip-woke-media-an-examination-of-voices-for-freedoms-web-radio-channel
    What a load of twaddle! Seymour is as far more tolerant than the dictatorial Labour and Greens! It's a surprise to many that Stuff reported on this but on reading it it's just another Stuff attack on a right wing politician though a rather weak one.

    I suspect Seymour and ACT will be very happy with the article; it is
    likely to encourage at least a few National voters to shift from
    National . . . I did not see any attack on Seymour.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 12 17:29:26 2023
    On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:41:15 AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Fri, 12 May 2023 15:39:15 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 9:49:33?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300876220/david-seymours-interview-on-voice-for-freedom-radio-station-is-fascinating

    This interview allowed Seymour to demonstrate his acceptance that
    others may have views he does not share, showing that he can be closer
    to Green Party or Labour tolerance levels than National, while not
    needing to defend his less attractive economic views. In this
    interview Seymour shows the benefit of his experience, but at the same
    time provides a contrast to the has-been and never-will-be politicians
    that are Peters and Luxon. Seymour also knows that a vote from the
    idiot fringe has just as much value as one from those that share his
    marginal views on other issues.

    The interview could almost have been planned to result in a Stuff
    report from Charlie Mitchell - see an earlier article by him here:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300841258/rip-woke-media-an-examination-of-voices-for-freedoms-web-radio-channel
    What a load of twaddle! Seymour is as far more tolerant than the dictatorial Labour and Greens! It's a surprise to many that Stuff reported on this but on reading it it's just another Stuff attack on a right wing politician though a rather weak one.
    I suspect Seymour and ACT will be very happy with the article; it is
    likely to encourage at least a few National voters to shift from
    National . . . I did not see any attack on Seymour.
    Funny how as Labour continues it downward spiral you are still stupid enough to think it's only because of an imagined move of voters from one right wing party to another. The trouble with nasty little communist trans like you Rich is your constant
    pushing of opinion not supported by any facts!
    As to your inability to perceive an attack from Stuff. That's just your lack of comprehension letting you down yet again...

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sat May 13 00:30:20 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 12 May 2023 15:39:15 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 9:49:33?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300876220/david-seymours-interview-on-voice-for-freedom-radio-station-is-fascinating

    This interview allowed Seymour to demonstrate his acceptance that
    others may have views he does not share, showing that he can be closer
    to Green Party or Labour tolerance levels than National, while not
    needing to defend his less attractive economic views. In this
    interview Seymour shows the benefit of his experience, but at the same
    time provides a contrast to the has-been and never-will-be politicians
    that are Peters and Luxon. Seymour also knows that a vote from the
    idiot fringe has just as much value as one from those that share his
    marginal views on other issues.

    The interview could almost have been planned to result in a Stuff
    report from Charlie Mitchell - see an earlier article by him here:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300841258/rip-woke-media-an-examination-of-voices-for-freedoms-web-radio-channel
    What a load of twaddle! Seymour is as far more tolerant than the dictatorial >>Labour and Greens! It's a surprise to many that Stuff reported on this but on >>reading it it's just another Stuff attack on a right wing politician though a >>rather weak one.

    I suspect Seymour and ACT will be very happy with the article; it is
    likely to encourage at least a few National voters to shift from
    National . . . I did not see any attack on Seymour.
    Seymour has gained support from all across the political spectrum, not just National.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Sat May 13 19:20:35 2023
    On Sat, 13 May 2023 00:30:20 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 12 May 2023 15:39:15 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 9:49:33?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300876220/david-seymours-interview-on-voice-for-freedom-radio-station-is-fascinating

    This interview allowed Seymour to demonstrate his acceptance that
    others may have views he does not share, showing that he can be closer >>>> to Green Party or Labour tolerance levels than National, while not
    needing to defend his less attractive economic views. In this
    interview Seymour shows the benefit of his experience, but at the same >>>> time provides a contrast to the has-been and never-will-be politicians >>>> that are Peters and Luxon. Seymour also knows that a vote from the
    idiot fringe has just as much value as one from those that share his
    marginal views on other issues.

    The interview could almost have been planned to result in a Stuff
    report from Charlie Mitchell - see an earlier article by him here:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300841258/rip-woke-media-an-examination-of-voices-for-freedoms-web-radio-channel
    What a load of twaddle! Seymour is as far more tolerant than the dictatorial >>>Labour and Greens! It's a surprise to many that Stuff reported on this but on
    reading it it's just another Stuff attack on a right wing politician though a
    rather weak one.

    I suspect Seymour and ACT will be very happy with the article; it is
    likely to encourage at least a few National voters to shift from
    National . . . I did not see any attack on Seymour.
    Seymour has gained support from all across the political spectrum, not just >National.
    Do you have any evidence to support that statement, Tony? I would not
    expect many to shift from either the Green Party or Te Pati Maori; but
    the polls do not give sufficient information to completely assess
    changes - that ACT has increased by roughly the same percentage as
    National has declined may however indicate where most movement is
    happening . . .

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sat May 13 21:49:26 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 13 May 2023 00:30:20 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 12 May 2023 15:39:15 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 9:49:33?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300876220/david-seymours-interview-on-voice-for-freedom-radio-station-is-fascinating

    This interview allowed Seymour to demonstrate his acceptance that
    others may have views he does not share, showing that he can be closer >>>>> to Green Party or Labour tolerance levels than National, while not
    needing to defend his less attractive economic views. In this
    interview Seymour shows the benefit of his experience, but at the same >>>>> time provides a contrast to the has-been and never-will-be politicians >>>>> that are Peters and Luxon. Seymour also knows that a vote from the
    idiot fringe has just as much value as one from those that share his >>>>> marginal views on other issues.

    The interview could almost have been planned to result in a Stuff
    report from Charlie Mitchell - see an earlier article by him here:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300841258/rip-woke-media-an-examination-of-voices-for-freedoms-web-radio-channel
    What a load of twaddle! Seymour is as far more tolerant than the >>>>dictatorial
    Labour and Greens! It's a surprise to many that Stuff reported on this but >>>>on
    reading it it's just another Stuff attack on a right wing politician though >>>>a
    rather weak one.

    I suspect Seymour and ACT will be very happy with the article; it is >>>likely to encourage at least a few National voters to shift from
    National . . . I did not see any attack on Seymour.
    Seymour has gained support from all across the political spectrum, not just >>National.
    Do you have any evidence to support that statement, Tony? I would not
    expect many to shift from either the Green Party or Te Pati Maori; but
    the polls do not give sufficient information to completely assess
    changes - that ACT has increased by roughly the same percentage as
    National has declined may however indicate where most movement is
    happening . . .
    When you provide support for your statement -
    "it is likely to encourage at least a few National voters to shift from National"
    I will consider it.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Tony on Sat May 13 17:14:54 2023
    On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 9:50:31 AM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 13 May 2023 00:30:20 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 12 May 2023 15:39:15 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 9:49:33?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300876220/david-seymours-interview-on-voice-for-freedom-radio-station-is-fascinating

    This interview allowed Seymour to demonstrate his acceptance that >>>>> others may have views he does not share, showing that he can be closer >>>>> to Green Party or Labour tolerance levels than National, while not >>>>> needing to defend his less attractive economic views. In this
    interview Seymour shows the benefit of his experience, but at the same >>>>> time provides a contrast to the has-been and never-will-be politicians >>>>> that are Peters and Luxon. Seymour also knows that a vote from the >>>>> idiot fringe has just as much value as one from those that share his >>>>> marginal views on other issues.

    The interview could almost have been planned to result in a Stuff >>>>> report from Charlie Mitchell - see an earlier article by him here: >>>>> >>>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300841258/rip-woke-media-an-examination-of-voices-for-freedoms-web-radio-channel
    What a load of twaddle! Seymour is as far more tolerant than the >>>>dictatorial
    Labour and Greens! It's a surprise to many that Stuff reported on this but
    on
    reading it it's just another Stuff attack on a right wing politician though
    a
    rather weak one.

    I suspect Seymour and ACT will be very happy with the article; it is >>>likely to encourage at least a few National voters to shift from >>>National . . . I did not see any attack on Seymour.
    Seymour has gained support from all across the political spectrum, not just
    National.
    Do you have any evidence to support that statement, Tony? I would not >expect many to shift from either the Green Party or Te Pati Maori; but
    the polls do not give sufficient information to completely assess
    changes - that ACT has increased by roughly the same percentage as >National has declined may however indicate where most movement is >happening . . .
    When you provide support for your statement -
    "it is likely to encourage at least a few National voters to shift from National"
    I will consider it.
    It only takes common sense to come to your conclusion Tony. Rich is so deeply enamoured of his highly politicized opinion to comprehend the truth of your claim!

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Tony on Sun May 14 01:22:06 2023
    John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 9:50:31 AM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 13 May 2023 00:30:20 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 12 May 2023 15:39:15 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 9:49:33?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:


    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300876220/david-seymours-interview-on-voice-for-freedom-radio-station-is-fascinating

    This interview allowed Seymour to demonstrate his acceptance that
    others may have views he does not share, showing that he can be closer >> >>>>> to Green Party or Labour tolerance levels than National, while not
    needing to defend his less attractive economic views. In this
    interview Seymour shows the benefit of his experience, but at the same >> >>>>> time provides a contrast to the has-been and never-will-be politicians >> >>>>> that are Peters and Luxon. Seymour also knows that a vote from the
    idiot fringe has just as much value as one from those that share his >> >>>>> marginal views on other issues.

    The interview could almost have been planned to result in a Stuff
    report from Charlie Mitchell - see an earlier article by him here:


    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300841258/rip-woke-media-an-examination-of-voices-for-freedoms-web-radio-channel
    What a load of twaddle! Seymour is as far more tolerant than the
    dictatorial
    Labour and Greens! It's a surprise to many that Stuff reported on this >> >>>>but
    on
    reading it it's just another Stuff attack on a right wing politician
    though
    a
    rather weak one.

    I suspect Seymour and ACT will be very happy with the article; it is
    likely to encourage at least a few National voters to shift from
    National . . . I did not see any attack on Seymour.
    Seymour has gained support from all across the political spectrum, not
    just
    National.
    Do you have any evidence to support that statement, Tony? I would not
    expect many to shift from either the Green Party or Te Pati Maori; but
    the polls do not give sufficient information to completely assess
    changes - that ACT has increased by roughly the same percentage as
    National has declined may however indicate where most movement is
    happening . . .
    When you provide support for your statement -
    "it is likely to encourage at least a few National voters to shift from
    National"
    I will consider it.
    It only takes common sense to come to your conclusion Tony. Rich is so deeply >enamoured of his highly politicized opinion to comprehend the truth of your >claim!
    Nobody with a scince degree of any kind would consider that a decline by National of a similar percentage to ACT means that the two are directly related. Science degrees include some statistics, some of them a great deal. The assumption made breaks all the rules.
    Secondly a percentage change does not necessarily correlate to numbers when comparing two very different change size samples - also basic science. There are other parties involved and only by considering them all can you come to a conclusion.
    In other words he guessed.

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sun May 14 01:39:59 2023
    On 2023-05-13, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 13 May 2023 00:30:20 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 12 May 2023 15:39:15 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 9:49:33?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300876220/david-seymours-interview-on-voice-for-freedom-radio-station-is-fascinating

    This interview allowed Seymour to demonstrate his acceptance that
    others may have views he does not share, showing that he can be closer >>>>> to Green Party or Labour tolerance levels than National, while not
    needing to defend his less attractive economic views. In this
    interview Seymour shows the benefit of his experience, but at the same >>>>> time provides a contrast to the has-been and never-will-be politicians >>>>> that are Peters and Luxon. Seymour also knows that a vote from the
    idiot fringe has just as much value as one from those that share his >>>>> marginal views on other issues.

    The interview could almost have been planned to result in a Stuff
    report from Charlie Mitchell - see an earlier article by him here:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300841258/rip-woke-media-an-examination-of-voices-for-freedoms-web-radio-channel
    What a load of twaddle! Seymour is as far more tolerant than the dictatorial
    Labour and Greens! It's a surprise to many that Stuff reported on this but on
    reading it it's just another Stuff attack on a right wing politician though a
    rather weak one.

    I suspect Seymour and ACT will be very happy with the article; it is >>>likely to encourage at least a few National voters to shift from
    National . . . I did not see any attack on Seymour.
    Seymour has gained support from all across the political spectrum, not just >>National.
    Do you have any evidence to support that statement, Tony? I would not
    expect many to shift from either the Green Party or Te Pati Maori;

    It is the so called swinging voters who do the shifting. All the other
    parties have layal voters.

    but
    the polls do not give sufficient information to completely assess
    changes - that ACT has increased by roughly the same percentage as
    National has declined may however indicate where most movement is
    happening . . .

    Yes the Swinger Labour voters are still asleep. Some are waking up.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Sun May 14 14:44:42 2023
    On Sat, 13 May 2023 21:49:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 13 May 2023 00:30:20 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 12 May 2023 15:39:15 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 9:49:33?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300876220/david-seymours-interview-on-voice-for-freedom-radio-station-is-fascinating

    This interview allowed Seymour to demonstrate his acceptance that
    others may have views he does not share, showing that he can be closer >>>>>> to Green Party or Labour tolerance levels than National, while not >>>>>> needing to defend his less attractive economic views. In this
    interview Seymour shows the benefit of his experience, but at the same >>>>>> time provides a contrast to the has-been and never-will-be politicians >>>>>> that are Peters and Luxon. Seymour also knows that a vote from the >>>>>> idiot fringe has just as much value as one from those that share his >>>>>> marginal views on other issues.

    The interview could almost have been planned to result in a Stuff
    report from Charlie Mitchell - see an earlier article by him here: >>>>>> >>>>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300841258/rip-woke-media-an-examination-of-voices-for-freedoms-web-radio-channel
    What a load of twaddle! Seymour is as far more tolerant than the >>>>>dictatorial
    Labour and Greens! It's a surprise to many that Stuff reported on this but >>>>>on
    reading it it's just another Stuff attack on a right wing politician though
    a
    rather weak one.

    I suspect Seymour and ACT will be very happy with the article; it is >>>>likely to encourage at least a few National voters to shift from >>>>National . . . I did not see any attack on Seymour.
    Seymour has gained support from all across the political spectrum, not just >>>National.
    Do you have any evidence to support that statement, Tony? I would not >>expect many to shift from either the Green Party or Te Pati Maori; but
    the polls do not give sufficient information to completely assess
    changes - that ACT has increased by roughly the same percentage as
    National has declined may however indicate where most movement is
    happening . . .
    When you provide support for your statement -
    "it is likely to encourage at least a few National voters to shift from >National"
    I will consider it.

    If your statement is true, then mine is also true as being a small
    part of your claim. It just indicates that your "reckons" are more
    wild than those of others . . .

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sun May 14 03:20:05 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 13 May 2023 21:49:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 13 May 2023 00:30:20 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 12 May 2023 15:39:15 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 9:49:33?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300876220/david-seymours-interview-on-voice-for-freedom-radio-station-is-fascinating

    This interview allowed Seymour to demonstrate his acceptance that >>>>>>> others may have views he does not share, showing that he can be closer >>>>>>> to Green Party or Labour tolerance levels than National, while not >>>>>>> needing to defend his less attractive economic views. In this
    interview Seymour shows the benefit of his experience, but at the same >>>>>>> time provides a contrast to the has-been and never-will-be politicians >>>>>>> that are Peters and Luxon. Seymour also knows that a vote from the >>>>>>> idiot fringe has just as much value as one from those that share his >>>>>>> marginal views on other issues.

    The interview could almost have been planned to result in a Stuff >>>>>>> report from Charlie Mitchell - see an earlier article by him here: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300841258/rip-woke-media-an-examination-of-voices-for-freedoms-web-radio-channel
    What a load of twaddle! Seymour is as far more tolerant than the >>>>>>dictatorial
    Labour and Greens! It's a surprise to many that Stuff reported on this >>>>>>but
    on
    reading it it's just another Stuff attack on a right wing politician >>>>>>though
    a
    rather weak one.

    I suspect Seymour and ACT will be very happy with the article; it is >>>>>likely to encourage at least a few National voters to shift from >>>>>National . . . I did not see any attack on Seymour.
    Seymour has gained support from all across the political spectrum, not just >>>>National.
    Do you have any evidence to support that statement, Tony? I would not >>>expect many to shift from either the Green Party or Te Pati Maori; but >>>the polls do not give sufficient information to completely assess
    changes - that ACT has increased by roughly the same percentage as >>>National has declined may however indicate where most movement is >>>happening . . .
    When you provide support for your statement -
    "it is likely to encourage at least a few National voters to shift from >>National"
    I will consider it.

    If your statement is true, then mine is also true as being a small
    part of your claim. It just indicates that your "reckons" are more
    wild than those of others . . .
    Logic is not a strength of yours, your statement does not depend on mine, an absurd bit of reasoning. Your statement is not true. Period. You claim a degree, you may have one but it not a science degree. Anybody with a science degree would never have made that claim.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 13 22:15:42 2023
    On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 2:52:50 PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sat, 13 May 2023 21:49:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 13 May 2023 00:30:20 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 12 May 2023 15:39:15 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>>><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 9:49:33?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300876220/david-seymours-interview-on-voice-for-freedom-radio-station-is-fascinating

    This interview allowed Seymour to demonstrate his acceptance that >>>>>> others may have views he does not share, showing that he can be closer
    to Green Party or Labour tolerance levels than National, while not >>>>>> needing to defend his less attractive economic views. In this
    interview Seymour shows the benefit of his experience, but at the same
    time provides a contrast to the has-been and never-will-be politicians
    that are Peters and Luxon. Seymour also knows that a vote from the >>>>>> idiot fringe has just as much value as one from those that share his >>>>>> marginal views on other issues.

    The interview could almost have been planned to result in a Stuff >>>>>> report from Charlie Mitchell - see an earlier article by him here: >>>>>> >>>>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300841258/rip-woke-media-an-examination-of-voices-for-freedoms-web-radio-channel
    What a load of twaddle! Seymour is as far more tolerant than the >>>>>dictatorial
    Labour and Greens! It's a surprise to many that Stuff reported on this but
    on
    reading it it's just another Stuff attack on a right wing politician though
    a
    rather weak one.

    I suspect Seymour and ACT will be very happy with the article; it is >>>>likely to encourage at least a few National voters to shift from >>>>National . . . I did not see any attack on Seymour.
    Seymour has gained support from all across the political spectrum, not just
    National.
    Do you have any evidence to support that statement, Tony? I would not >>expect many to shift from either the Green Party or Te Pati Maori; but >>the polls do not give sufficient information to completely assess >>changes - that ACT has increased by roughly the same percentage as >>National has declined may however indicate where most movement is >>happening . . .
    When you provide support for your statement -
    "it is likely to encourage at least a few National voters to shift from >National"
    I will consider it.
    If your statement is true, then mine is also true as being a small
    part of your claim. It just indicates that your "reckons" are more
    wild than those of others . . .
    Rich. YOU are the best deliverer of wild reckons! You need to do some work on your comprehension skills or cut back on the politicised bullshit you keep pushing...

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Sun May 14 18:19:52 2023
    On Sun, 14 May 2023 03:20:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 13 May 2023 21:49:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 13 May 2023 00:30:20 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 12 May 2023 15:39:15 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 9:49:33?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300876220/david-seymours-interview-on-voice-for-freedom-radio-station-is-fascinating

    This interview allowed Seymour to demonstrate his acceptance that >>>>>>>> others may have views he does not share, showing that he can be closer >>>>>>>> to Green Party or Labour tolerance levels than National, while not >>>>>>>> needing to defend his less attractive economic views. In this
    interview Seymour shows the benefit of his experience, but at the same >>>>>>>> time provides a contrast to the has-been and never-will-be politicians >>>>>>>> that are Peters and Luxon. Seymour also knows that a vote from the >>>>>>>> idiot fringe has just as much value as one from those that share his >>>>>>>> marginal views on other issues.

    The interview could almost have been planned to result in a Stuff >>>>>>>> report from Charlie Mitchell - see an earlier article by him here: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300841258/rip-woke-media-an-examination-of-voices-for-freedoms-web-radio-channel
    What a load of twaddle! Seymour is as far more tolerant than the >>>>>>>dictatorial
    Labour and Greens! It's a surprise to many that Stuff reported on this >>>>>>>but
    on
    reading it it's just another Stuff attack on a right wing politician >>>>>>>though
    a
    rather weak one.

    I suspect Seymour and ACT will be very happy with the article; it is >>>>>>likely to encourage at least a few National voters to shift from >>>>>>National . . . I did not see any attack on Seymour.
    Seymour has gained support from all across the political spectrum, not just
    National.
    Do you have any evidence to support that statement, Tony? I would not >>>>expect many to shift from either the Green Party or Te Pati Maori; but >>>>the polls do not give sufficient information to completely assess >>>>changes - that ACT has increased by roughly the same percentage as >>>>National has declined may however indicate where most movement is >>>>happening . . .
    When you provide support for your statement -
    "it is likely to encourage at least a few National voters to shift from >>>National"
    I will consider it.

    If your statement is true, then mine is also true as being a small
    part of your claim. It just indicates that your "reckons" are more
    wild than those of others . . .
    Logic is not a strength of yours, your statement does not depend on mine, an >absurd bit of reasoning. Your statement is not true. Period. You claim a >degree, you may have one but it not a science degree. Anybody with a science >degree would never have made that claim.

    So you are saying that ACT is gaining support from all across the
    political spectrum, but that the article will not bring them any
    support from National voters . . . . Logic not your strong point;
    "Right", Tony?

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sun May 14 21:22:46 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 14 May 2023 03:20:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 13 May 2023 21:49:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 13 May 2023 00:30:20 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 12 May 2023 15:39:15 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>>>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 9:49:33?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300876220/david-seymours-interview-on-voice-for-freedom-radio-station-is-fascinating

    This interview allowed Seymour to demonstrate his acceptance that >>>>>>>>> others may have views he does not share, showing that he can be >>>>>>>>>closer
    to Green Party or Labour tolerance levels than National, while not >>>>>>>>> needing to defend his less attractive economic views. In this >>>>>>>>> interview Seymour shows the benefit of his experience, but at the >>>>>>>>>same
    time provides a contrast to the has-been and never-will-be >>>>>>>>>politicians
    that are Peters and Luxon. Seymour also knows that a vote from the >>>>>>>>> idiot fringe has just as much value as one from those that share his >>>>>>>>> marginal views on other issues.

    The interview could almost have been planned to result in a Stuff >>>>>>>>> report from Charlie Mitchell - see an earlier article by him here: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300841258/rip-woke-media-an-examination-of-voices-for-freedoms-web-radio-channel
    What a load of twaddle! Seymour is as far more tolerant than the >>>>>>>>dictatorial
    Labour and Greens! It's a surprise to many that Stuff reported on this >>>>>>>>but
    on
    reading it it's just another Stuff attack on a right wing politician >>>>>>>>though
    a
    rather weak one.

    I suspect Seymour and ACT will be very happy with the article; it is >>>>>>>likely to encourage at least a few National voters to shift from >>>>>>>National . . . I did not see any attack on Seymour.
    Seymour has gained support from all across the political spectrum, not >>>>>>just
    National.
    Do you have any evidence to support that statement, Tony? I would not >>>>>expect many to shift from either the Green Party or Te Pati Maori; but >>>>>the polls do not give sufficient information to completely assess >>>>>changes - that ACT has increased by roughly the same percentage as >>>>>National has declined may however indicate where most movement is >>>>>happening . . .
    When you provide support for your statement -
    "it is likely to encourage at least a few National voters to shift from >>>>National"
    I will consider it.

    If your statement is true, then mine is also true as being a small
    part of your claim. It just indicates that your "reckons" are more
    wild than those of others . . .
    Logic is not a strength of yours, your statement does not depend on mine, an >>absurd bit of reasoning. Your statement is not true. Period. You claim a >>degree, you may have one but it not a science degree. Anybody with a science >>degree would never have made that claim.

    So you are saying that ACT is gaining support from all across the
    political spectrum, but that the article will not bring them any
    support from National voters . . . . Logic not your strong point;
    "Right", Tony?
    You can prevaricate as much as you want but when you suggested that ACTs gain was Nationals loss you made a significant logical and mathematical blunder - unlikely from a science graduate.
    My logic eclipses yours

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Mon May 15 11:38:03 2023
    On Sun, 14 May 2023 21:22:46 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 14 May 2023 03:20:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 13 May 2023 21:49:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 13 May 2023 00:30:20 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 12 May 2023 15:39:15 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>>>>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 9:49:33?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300876220/david-seymours-interview-on-voice-for-freedom-radio-station-is-fascinating

    This interview allowed Seymour to demonstrate his acceptance that >>>>>>>>>> others may have views he does not share, showing that he can be >>>>>>>>>>closer
    to Green Party or Labour tolerance levels than National, while not >>>>>>>>>> needing to defend his less attractive economic views. In this >>>>>>>>>> interview Seymour shows the benefit of his experience, but at the >>>>>>>>>>same
    time provides a contrast to the has-been and never-will-be >>>>>>>>>>politicians
    that are Peters and Luxon. Seymour also knows that a vote from the >>>>>>>>>> idiot fringe has just as much value as one from those that share his >>>>>>>>>> marginal views on other issues.

    The interview could almost have been planned to result in a Stuff >>>>>>>>>> report from Charlie Mitchell - see an earlier article by him here: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300841258/rip-woke-media-an-examination-of-voices-for-freedoms-web-radio-channel
    What a load of twaddle! Seymour is as far more tolerant than the >>>>>>>>>dictatorial
    Labour and Greens! It's a surprise to many that Stuff reported on this >>>>>>>>>but
    on
    reading it it's just another Stuff attack on a right wing politician >>>>>>>>>though
    a
    rather weak one.

    I suspect Seymour and ACT will be very happy with the article; it is >>>>>>>>likely to encourage at least a few National voters to shift from >>>>>>>>National . . . I did not see any attack on Seymour.
    Seymour has gained support from all across the political spectrum, not >>>>>>>just
    National.
    Do you have any evidence to support that statement, Tony? I would not >>>>>>expect many to shift from either the Green Party or Te Pati Maori; but >>>>>>the polls do not give sufficient information to completely assess >>>>>>changes - that ACT has increased by roughly the same percentage as >>>>>>National has declined may however indicate where most movement is >>>>>>happening . . .
    When you provide support for your statement -
    "it is likely to encourage at least a few National voters to shift from >>>>>National"
    I will consider it.

    If your statement is true, then mine is also true as being a small
    part of your claim. It just indicates that your "reckons" are more
    wild than those of others . . .
    Logic is not a strength of yours, your statement does not depend on mine, an >>>absurd bit of reasoning. Your statement is not true. Period. You claim a >>>degree, you may have one but it not a science degree. Anybody with a science >>>degree would never have made that claim.

    So you are saying that ACT is gaining support from all across the
    political spectrum, but that the article will not bring them any
    support from National voters . . . . Logic not your strong point;
    "Right", Tony?
    You can prevaricate as much as you want but when you suggested that ACTs gain >was Nationals loss you made a significant logical and mathematical blunder - >unlikely from a science graduate.
    My logic eclipses yours
    Oh dear, you do get yourself very muddled, Tony. Never mind, you can
    comfort yourself that Luxon is now ahead of Ardern in the preferred
    leader poll . . .

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Mon May 15 01:00:37 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 14 May 2023 21:22:46 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 14 May 2023 03:20:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 13 May 2023 21:49:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 13 May 2023 00:30:20 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 12 May 2023 15:39:15 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>>>>>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 9:49:33?AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300876220/david-seymours-interview-on-voice-for-freedom-radio-station-is-fascinating

    This interview allowed Seymour to demonstrate his acceptance that >>>>>>>>>>> others may have views he does not share, showing that he can be >>>>>>>>>>>closer
    to Green Party or Labour tolerance levels than National, while not >>>>>>>>>>> needing to defend his less attractive economic views. In this >>>>>>>>>>> interview Seymour shows the benefit of his experience, but at the >>>>>>>>>>>same
    time provides a contrast to the has-been and never-will-be >>>>>>>>>>>politicians
    that are Peters and Luxon. Seymour also knows that a vote from the >>>>>>>>>>> idiot fringe has just as much value as one from those that share >>>>>>>>>>>his
    marginal views on other issues.

    The interview could almost have been planned to result in a Stuff >>>>>>>>>>> report from Charlie Mitchell - see an earlier article by him here: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300841258/rip-woke-media-an-examination-of-voices-for-freedoms-web-radio-channel
    What a load of twaddle! Seymour is as far more tolerant than the >>>>>>>>>>dictatorial
    Labour and Greens! It's a surprise to many that Stuff reported on >>>>>>>>>>this
    but
    on
    reading it it's just another Stuff attack on a right wing politician >>>>>>>>>>though
    a
    rather weak one.

    I suspect Seymour and ACT will be very happy with the article; it is >>>>>>>>>likely to encourage at least a few National voters to shift from >>>>>>>>>National . . . I did not see any attack on Seymour.
    Seymour has gained support from all across the political spectrum, not >>>>>>>>just
    National.
    Do you have any evidence to support that statement, Tony? I would not >>>>>>>expect many to shift from either the Green Party or Te Pati Maori; but >>>>>>>the polls do not give sufficient information to completely assess >>>>>>>changes - that ACT has increased by roughly the same percentage as >>>>>>>National has declined may however indicate where most movement is >>>>>>>happening . . .
    When you provide support for your statement -
    "it is likely to encourage at least a few National voters to shift from >>>>>>National"
    I will consider it.

    If your statement is true, then mine is also true as being a small >>>>>part of your claim. It just indicates that your "reckons" are more >>>>>wild than those of others . . .
    Logic is not a strength of yours, your statement does not depend on mine, >>>>an
    absurd bit of reasoning. Your statement is not true. Period. You claim a >>>>degree, you may have one but it not a science degree. Anybody with a >>>>science
    degree would never have made that claim.

    So you are saying that ACT is gaining support from all across the >>>political spectrum, but that the article will not bring them any
    support from National voters . . . . Logic not your strong point; >>>"Right", Tony?
    You can prevaricate as much as you want but when you suggested that ACTs gain >>was Nationals loss you made a significant logical and mathematical blunder - >>unlikely from a science graduate.
    My logic eclipses yours
    Oh dear, you do get yourself very muddled, Tony. Never mind, you can
    comfort yourself that Luxon is now ahead of Ardern in the preferred
    leader poll . . .
    So you deny your mathematical and scientific incompetence. So you should, because it is very amusing.
    I don't give a fig about such matters as who is preferred leader. Those that do bore me silly. And you lead that club.

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