Yes of course it has political overtones but so does anything that the government publishes. https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/131777857/david-seymour-covid-isolation-rules-reflect-bad-decisions-based-on-bad-advice
On 2023-04-15, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Yes of course it has political overtones but so does anything that the
government publishes.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/131777857/david-seymour-covid-isolation-rules-reflect-bad-decisions-based-on-bad-advice
I liked this from the commentsIndeed it is - Covid deaths are likely to be around 4 times our road
"Has anyone noticed Seymour does not engage in spin.
Agree with him or not - it is refreshing to have a
politician say what he thinks without the statement
clouded with nonsense words, and meaning different
from the actual statement".
Whether you agree or disagree his view point is clear and you can have a >clear debate. You do not have to think what the message is.
The point not made by David is that Onicron changed the landscape and the >Goverment still has not got in back pedal mode as is being done in other >countries. ( Can not admit we were wrong Oh no!) In Nov 21 when Omicron >appeared in Uganda the doctors said, very tramismissible but a great deal >less deadly. The rest of the world could not see that this was the case. So >Omicron got on a plane and showed them first hand.
Natural immunity is now working just fine.
The Swiss have stopped Covid vacinations apart from on demand and with a >doctors agreement.
This act of holding onto power is certainly telling.
On 15 Apr 2023 04:42:02 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Gosh what a silly post. Simply being sarcastic is not debate Rich80105.
On 2023-04-15, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Indeed it is - Covid deaths are likely to be around 4 times our road
Yes of course it has political overtones but so does anything that the
government publishes.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/131777857/david-seymour-covid-isolation-rules-reflect-bad-decisions-based-on-bad-advice
I liked this from the comments
"Has anyone noticed Seymour does not engage in spin.
Agree with him or not - it is refreshing to have a
politician say what he thinks without the statement
clouded with nonsense words, and meaning different
from the actual statement".
Whether you agree or disagree his view point is clear and you can have a >>clear debate. You do not have to think what the message is.
The point not made by David is that Onicron changed the landscape and the >>Goverment still has not got in back pedal mode as is being done in other >>countries. ( Can not admit we were wrong Oh no!) In Nov 21 when Omicron >>appeared in Uganda the doctors said, very tramismissible but a great deal >>less deadly. The rest of the world could not see that this was the case. So >>Omicron got on a plane and showed them first hand.
Natural immunity is now working just fine.
The Swiss have stopped Covid vacinations apart from on demand and with a >>doctors agreement.
This act of holding onto power is certainly telling.
deaths; they are likely to require a couple of hundred hospital beds
and time of medical staff that we would prefer to use for other
purposes, and we are heading into winter when health services are
normally stretched already. Accepting professional medical advice is
usually a good idea. and 2 more months of standing down to look after
both yourself and those you may otherwise infect makes a lot of sense.
I suspect there are a lot of things that are done in other countries
that we do not follow. If there are rational and scientific reasons
other than your reliance on Ugandan practice then let us have a clear
debate . . .
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Highly politicized bullshit like most of this isn't either. Hell he hasn't even followed his own high handed rules and provided a cite for his weak and useless opinion. But what else would you expect from someone who believes that if you think you are a
On 15 Apr 2023 04:42:02 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
Gosh what a silly post. Simply being sarcastic is not debate Rich80105.On 2023-04-15, Tony <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Indeed it is - Covid deaths are likely to be around 4 times our road >deaths; they are likely to require a couple of hundred hospital beds
Yes of course it has political overtones but so does anything that the >>> government publishes.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/131777857/david-seymour-covid-isolation-rules-reflect-bad-decisions-based-on-bad-advice
I liked this from the comments
"Has anyone noticed Seymour does not engage in spin.
Agree with him or not - it is refreshing to have a
politician say what he thinks without the statement
clouded with nonsense words, and meaning different
from the actual statement".
Whether you agree or disagree his view point is clear and you can have a >>clear debate. You do not have to think what the message is.
The point not made by David is that Onicron changed the landscape and the >>Goverment still has not got in back pedal mode as is being done in other >>countries. ( Can not admit we were wrong Oh no!) In Nov 21 when Omicron >>appeared in Uganda the doctors said, very tramismissible but a great deal >>less deadly. The rest of the world could not see that this was the case. So
Omicron got on a plane and showed them first hand.
Natural immunity is now working just fine.
The Swiss have stopped Covid vacinations apart from on demand and with a >>doctors agreement.
This act of holding onto power is certainly telling.
and time of medical staff that we would prefer to use for other
purposes, and we are heading into winter when health services are
normally stretched already. Accepting professional medical advice is >usually a good idea. and 2 more months of standing down to look after
both yourself and those you may otherwise infect makes a lot of sense.
I suspect there are a lot of things that are done in other countries
that we do not follow. If there are rational and scientific reasons
other than your reliance on Ugandan practice then let us have a clear >debate . . .
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 06:26:33 -0000 (UTC), TonyThe one Tony cited may not. But this from Newshub is! https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/04/political-commentator-says-christopher-luxon-comes-across-as-decent-bloke-but-struggling-to-be-a-politician.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:So prove that the article mentioned was published either by the
On 15 Apr 2023 04:42:02 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Gosh what a silly post. Simply being sarcastic is not debate Rich80105.
On 2023-04-15, Tony <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Indeed it is - Covid deaths are likely to be around 4 times our road >>deaths; they are likely to require a couple of hundred hospital beds
Yes of course it has political overtones but so does anything that the >>>> government publishes.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/131777857/david-seymour-covid-isolation-rules-reflect-bad-decisions-based-on-bad-advice
I liked this from the comments
"Has anyone noticed Seymour does not engage in spin.
Agree with him or not - it is refreshing to have a
politician say what he thinks without the statement
clouded with nonsense words, and meaning different
from the actual statement".
Whether you agree or disagree his view point is clear and you can have a >>>clear debate. You do not have to think what the message is.
The point not made by David is that Onicron changed the landscape and the >>>Goverment still has not got in back pedal mode as is being done in other >>>countries. ( Can not admit we were wrong Oh no!) In Nov 21 when Omicron >>>appeared in Uganda the doctors said, very tramismissible but a great deal >>>less deadly. The rest of the world could not see that this was the case. So
Omicron got on a plane and showed them first hand.
Natural immunity is now working just fine.
The Swiss have stopped Covid vacinations apart from on demand and with a >>>doctors agreement.
This act of holding onto power is certainly telling.
and time of medical staff that we would prefer to use for other >>purposes, and we are heading into winter when health services are >>normally stretched already. Accepting professional medical advice is >>usually a good idea. and 2 more months of standing down to look after >>both yourself and those you may otherwise infect makes a lot of sense.
I suspect there are a lot of things that are done in other countries >>that we do not follow. If there are rational and scientific reasons >>other than your reliance on Ugandan practice then let us have a clear >>debate . . .
government or with money from the government - you can;t, so you
whiffle around, go off tpic, and complain about everyone else.
Just stay on topic, Tony!
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 15 Apr 2023 04:42:02 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Gosh what a silly post. Simply being sarcastic is not debate Rich80105.
On 2023-04-15, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Indeed it is - Covid deaths are likely to be around 4 times our road >>deaths; they are likely to require a couple of hundred hospital beds
Yes of course it has political overtones but so does anything that the >>>> government publishes.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/131777857/david-seymour-covid-isolation-rules-reflect-bad-decisions-based-on-bad-advice
I liked this from the comments
"Has anyone noticed Seymour does not engage in spin.
Agree with him or not - it is refreshing to have a
politician say what he thinks without the statement
clouded with nonsense words, and meaning different
from the actual statement".
Whether you agree or disagree his view point is clear and you can have a >>>clear debate. You do not have to think what the message is.
The point not made by David is that Onicron changed the landscape and the >>>Goverment still has not got in back pedal mode as is being done in other >>>countries. ( Can not admit we were wrong Oh no!) In Nov 21 when Omicron >>>appeared in Uganda the doctors said, very tramismissible but a great deal >>>less deadly. The rest of the world could not see that this was the case. So >>>Omicron got on a plane and showed them first hand.
Natural immunity is now working just fine.
The Swiss have stopped Covid vacinations apart from on demand and with a >>>doctors agreement.
This act of holding onto power is certainly telling.
and time of medical staff that we would prefer to use for other
purposes, and we are heading into winter when health services are
normally stretched already. Accepting professional medical advice is >>usually a good idea. and 2 more months of standing down to look after
both yourself and those you may otherwise infect makes a lot of sense.
I suspect there are a lot of things that are done in other countries
that we do not follow. If there are rational and scientific reasons
other than your reliance on Ugandan practice then let us have a clear >>debate . . .
On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 9:44:27?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 06:26:33 -0000 (UTC), TonyThe one Tony cited may not. But this from Newshub is! >https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/04/political-commentator-says-christopher-luxon-comes-across-as-decent-bloke-but-struggling-to-be-a-politician.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:So prove that the article mentioned was published either by the
On 15 Apr 2023 04:42:02 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Gosh what a silly post. Simply being sarcastic is not debate Rich80105.
On 2023-04-15, Tony <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Indeed it is - Covid deaths are likely to be around 4 times our road
Yes of course it has political overtones but so does anything that the >> >>>> government publishes.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/131777857/david-seymour-covid-isolation-rules-reflect-bad-decisions-based-on-bad-advice
I liked this from the comments
"Has anyone noticed Seymour does not engage in spin.
Agree with him or not - it is refreshing to have a
politician say what he thinks without the statement
clouded with nonsense words, and meaning different
from the actual statement".
Whether you agree or disagree his view point is clear and you can have a >> >>>clear debate. You do not have to think what the message is.
The point not made by David is that Onicron changed the landscape and the >> >>>Goverment still has not got in back pedal mode as is being done in other >> >>>countries. ( Can not admit we were wrong Oh no!) In Nov 21 when Omicron >> >>>appeared in Uganda the doctors said, very tramismissible but a great deal >> >>>less deadly. The rest of the world could not see that this was the case. So
Omicron got on a plane and showed them first hand.
Natural immunity is now working just fine.
The Swiss have stopped Covid vacinations apart from on demand and with a >> >>>doctors agreement.
This act of holding onto power is certainly telling.
deaths; they are likely to require a couple of hundred hospital beds
and time of medical staff that we would prefer to use for other
purposes, and we are heading into winter when health services are
normally stretched already. Accepting professional medical advice is
usually a good idea. and 2 more months of standing down to look after
both yourself and those you may otherwise infect makes a lot of sense.
I suspect there are a lot of things that are done in other countries
that we do not follow. If there are rational and scientific reasons
other than your reliance on Ugandan practice then let us have a clear
debate . . .
government or with money from the government - you can;t, so you
whiffle around, go off tpic, and complain about everyone else.
Just stay on topic, Tony!
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 06:26:33 -0000 (UTC), TonyI didn't at any time say where that article was published. Do atay on topic. And stop the childish sarcasm.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 15 Apr 2023 04:42:02 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Gosh what a silly post. Simply being sarcastic is not debate Rich80105.
On 2023-04-15, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Indeed it is - Covid deaths are likely to be around 4 times our road >>>deaths; they are likely to require a couple of hundred hospital beds
Yes of course it has political overtones but so does anything that the >>>>> government publishes.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/131777857/david-seymour-covid-isolation-rules-reflect-bad-decisions-based-on-bad-advice
I liked this from the comments
"Has anyone noticed Seymour does not engage in spin.
Agree with him or not - it is refreshing to have a
politician say what he thinks without the statement
clouded with nonsense words, and meaning different
from the actual statement".
Whether you agree or disagree his view point is clear and you can have a >>>>clear debate. You do not have to think what the message is.
The point not made by David is that Onicron changed the landscape and the >>>>Goverment still has not got in back pedal mode as is being done in other >>>>countries. ( Can not admit we were wrong Oh no!) In Nov 21 when Omicron >>>>appeared in Uganda the doctors said, very tramismissible but a great deal >>>>less deadly. The rest of the world could not see that this was the case. So >>>>Omicron got on a plane and showed them first hand.
Natural immunity is now working just fine.
The Swiss have stopped Covid vacinations apart from on demand and with a >>>>doctors agreement.
This act of holding onto power is certainly telling.
and time of medical staff that we would prefer to use for other
purposes, and we are heading into winter when health services are >>>normally stretched already. Accepting professional medical advice is >>>usually a good idea. and 2 more months of standing down to look after >>>both yourself and those you may otherwise infect makes a lot of sense.
I suspect there are a lot of things that are done in other countries
that we do not follow. If there are rational and scientific reasons >>>other than your reliance on Ugandan practice then let us have a clear >>>debate . . .
So prove that the article mentioned was published either by the
government or with money from the government - you can;t, so you
whiffle around, go off tpic, and complain about everyone else.
Just stay on topic, Tony!
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 02:57:58 -0700 (PDT), John BowesThis was not paid for by NZ on Air aka the Labour party.
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 9:44:27?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:That is political comment; it is not journalism - and see also this https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/04/paula-bennett-defends-christopher-luxon-amid-criticism-of-national-leader-struggling-as-politician.html
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 06:26:33 -0000 (UTC), TonyThe one Tony cited may not. But this from Newshub is! >https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/04/political-commentator-says-christopher-luxon-comes-across-as-decent-bloke-but-struggling-to-be-a-politician.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:government or with money from the government - you can;t, so you
On 15 Apr 2023 04:42:02 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Gosh what a silly post. Simply being sarcastic is not debate Rich80105. >> So prove that the article mentioned was published either by the
On 2023-04-15, Tony <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Indeed it is - Covid deaths are likely to be around 4 times our road
Yes of course it has political overtones but so does anything that the
government publishes.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/131777857/david-seymour-covid-isolation-rules-reflect-bad-decisions-based-on-bad-advice
I liked this from the comments
"Has anyone noticed Seymour does not engage in spin.
Agree with him or not - it is refreshing to have a
politician say what he thinks without the statement
clouded with nonsense words, and meaning different
from the actual statement".
Whether you agree or disagree his view point is clear and you can have a
clear debate. You do not have to think what the message is.
The point not made by David is that Onicron changed the landscape and the
Goverment still has not got in back pedal mode as is being done in other
countries. ( Can not admit we were wrong Oh no!) In Nov 21 when Omicron
appeared in Uganda the doctors said, very tramismissible but a great deal
less deadly. The rest of the world could not see that this was the case. So
Omicron got on a plane and showed them first hand.
Natural immunity is now working just fine.
The Swiss have stopped Covid vacinations apart from on demand and with a
doctors agreement.
This act of holding onto power is certainly telling.
deaths; they are likely to require a couple of hundred hospital beds
and time of medical staff that we would prefer to use for other
purposes, and we are heading into winter when health services are
normally stretched already. Accepting professional medical advice is
usually a good idea. and 2 more months of standing down to look after >> >>both yourself and those you may otherwise infect makes a lot of sense. >> >>I suspect there are a lot of things that are done in other countries
that we do not follow. If there are rational and scientific reasons
other than your reliance on Ugandan practice then let us have a clear >> >>debate . . .
whiffle around, go off tpic, and complain about everyone else.
Just stay on topic, Tony!
Newshub does try to be a little balanced, unlike The Herald where
Hoskins rants are seldom countered with another view.
To an extent these articles are based on political polls - where not
even Farrrar can sugar-coat the failure of Luxon to attract personal support, even from many National voters. He has surrounded himself
with quite a few losers - Uffindell is apparently now their spokesman
for Police! Essentially he is not a politician, and he has not had
the time to develop those skills - he lacks empathy, and does not have
the background to explain policies. But everyone can see that he is
trying - some would say very trying!
Certainly we have too much cheap comment as space or time fillers in
our commercial media, and much of it is unbalanced, just like personal comment on nz.general, but most see through that and attempt to
genuinely debate - you should try it sometime, John Bowes . . .
Yes of course it has political overtones but so does anything that the >government publishes. >https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/131777857/david-seymour-covid-isolation-rules-reflect-bad-decisions-based-on-bad-advice
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 02:13:02 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Yes of course it has political overtones but so does anything that the >>government publishes. >>https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/131777857/david-seymour-covid-isolation-rules-reflect-bad-decisions-based-on-bad-advice
All a bit of a nonsense really. While we may have regulatory
requirements with positive RAT results, enforcement is not possible so compliance is totally optional. It is not worth the effort to expose
such farcical regulation because we can continue to ignore it.
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