• Re: The state of the water reforms

    From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Crash on Thu Apr 13 21:43:30 2023
    On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 4:35:20 PM UTC+12, Crash wrote:
    Well we have had a few days to digest the 'reset' of Labours Water
    reforms. The original was sprung on this country when the He Puapua
    report was kept secret until it was leaked well after the 2020
    election. Labour had no mandate for the water reforms it came up with
    and they have become law purely because we have a
    single-party-majority government for the first time in the MMP era. It
    is appropriate to remember that the Water Services Entities Bill
    passed with only Labour voting for it. The Greens, the Maori Party,
    National and Act all voted against it:

    https://tinyurl.com/52z8brvk

    Note also that an attempt was made to entrench parts of this Act but
    this was withdrawn from the Bill before it was passed.

    Earlier this year, new PM Hipkins announced that Water reforms would
    be reviewed as part of a directional change under his leadership. The
    result was minor changes that leave the principle causes of widespread opposition intact. Water Entity A is unchanged but Water Entities B,
    C and D were split into 9 smaller Water Entities.

    Clearly this review changed nothing of substance. National have
    committed to repeal this legislation if elected in the general
    election later this year. The Taxpayers Union and Hobsons Choice will continue with their relentless campaign against Labours water reforms.

    I predict that when it becomes clear that the latest reset is as
    unpopular as the current law is, moves will be made by Hipkins to
    remove co-governance in favour of Entities with boards appointed
    entirely by the local bodies within their territories. There will be internal ructions within the Labour caucus and many Maori MPs may well
    leave the party. Hipkins though will be able to head into the
    election campaign having fixed a toxic water reforms initiative that
    would have cost them the opportunity to form the next government.

    The polls over the next 3 months or so will tell a story.


    --
    Crash McBash

    So what you're saying is Labour put lipstick on the pig... ;)

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 14 16:35:16 2023
    Well we have had a few days to digest the 'reset' of Labours Water
    reforms. The original was sprung on this country when the He Puapua
    report was kept secret until it was leaked well after the 2020
    election. Labour had no mandate for the water reforms it came up with
    and they have become law purely because we have a
    single-party-majority government for the first time in the MMP era. It
    is appropriate to remember that the Water Services Entities Bill
    passed with only Labour voting for it. The Greens, the Maori Party,
    National and Act all voted against it:

    https://tinyurl.com/52z8brvk

    Note also that an attempt was made to entrench parts of this Act but
    this was withdrawn from the Bill before it was passed.

    Earlier this year, new PM Hipkins announced that Water reforms would
    be reviewed as part of a directional change under his leadership. The
    result was minor changes that leave the principle causes of widespread opposition intact. Water Entity A is unchanged but Water Entities B,
    C and D were split into 9 smaller Water Entities.

    Clearly this review changed nothing of substance. National have
    committed to repeal this legislation if elected in the general
    election later this year. The Taxpayers Union and Hobsons Choice will
    continue with their relentless campaign against Labours water reforms.

    I predict that when it becomes clear that the latest reset is as
    unpopular as the current law is, moves will be made by Hipkins to
    remove co-governance in favour of Entities with boards appointed
    entirely by the local bodies within their territories. There will be
    internal ructions within the Labour caucus and many Maori MPs may well
    leave the party. Hipkins though will be able to head into the
    election campaign having fixed a toxic water reforms initiative that
    would have cost them the opportunity to form the next government.

    The polls over the next 3 months or so will tell a story.


    --
    Crash McBash

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Crash on Fri Apr 14 05:16:08 2023
    Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    Well we have had a few days to digest the 'reset' of Labours Water
    reforms. The original was sprung on this country when the He Puapua
    report was kept secret until it was leaked well after the 2020
    election. Labour had no mandate for the water reforms it came up with
    and they have become law purely because we have a
    single-party-majority government for the first time in the MMP era. It
    is appropriate to remember that the Water Services Entities Bill
    passed with only Labour voting for it. The Greens, the Maori Party,
    National and Act all voted against it:

    https://tinyurl.com/52z8brvk

    Note also that an attempt was made to entrench parts of this Act but
    this was withdrawn from the Bill before it was passed.

    Earlier this year, new PM Hipkins announced that Water reforms would
    be reviewed as part of a directional change under his leadership. The
    result was minor changes that leave the principle causes of widespread >opposition intact. Water Entity A is unchanged but Water Entities B,
    C and D were split into 9 smaller Water Entities.

    Clearly this review changed nothing of substance. National have
    committed to repeal this legislation if elected in the general
    election later this year. The Taxpayers Union and Hobsons Choice will >continue with their relentless campaign against Labours water reforms.

    I predict that when it becomes clear that the latest reset is as
    unpopular as the current law is, moves will be made by Hipkins to
    remove co-governance in favour of Entities with boards appointed
    entirely by the local bodies within their territories. There will be >internal ructions within the Labour caucus and many Maori MPs may well
    leave the party. Hipkins though will be able to head into the
    election campaign having fixed a toxic water reforms initiative that
    would have cost them the opportunity to form the next government.

    The polls over the next 3 months or so will tell a story.
    Hipkins will do what he is told to do until he realises his career is at risk. Then he will do the pragmatic political thing as you have forecast.
    Whatever happens at the next election, we have many years of rebuilding ahead. Maori/European relationships have been massively damaged (deliberately?) by this government. Ardern, Mahuta and others (perhaps Hipkins) will be remembered as being the guilty. The folk of New Zealand will be remembered as the victims of greedy race based infamy.
    I hope with all my heart that this will not happen but I fear it is too late. Let us cast these fools out and start the rebuilding; 12 years of Labour in the minor parties would help.

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    Crash McBash

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