• Just a quick partial list . . .

    From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 14 08:16:44 2023
    Just for information. This is of course a very short summary of a few
    of the achievements of the Ardern / Hipkins governments:

    LABOUR HAS
    •Introduced a new short term cost of living payment for 2.1 million
    Kiwis, to help with higher grocery and power bills.
    •Over 190,000 Kiwis supported to upskill with their trades training
    and apprenticeship programme.
    •Helped more than one million New Zealanders stay warm over the colder
    months through the Winter Energy Payment.
    •Increased the minimum wage to $21.20 per hour.
    •Delivered more than 12,500 public and transitional homes, as part of
    their plan to deliver more than 18,000 extra places by 2024.
    •Extended fuel tax cut and half-price public transport fees, as the
    war in Ukraine drives up fuel prices globally.
    •Made visiting the doctor cheaper or free for nearly 600,000 New
    Zealanders.
    •Extended paid parental leave from 18 to 26 weeks.
    •Made the biggest investment in mental health of any Budget.
    •Provided healthy, free school lunches to more than 200,000 students
    across the country, with 45 million lunches already served.
    •Passed the landmark Zero Carbon Act, with a target of net zero carbon emissions by 2050.
    •Upgraded almost every state school in the country through the School Investment Package.
    •Removed fees from NCEA and NZ Scholarship.
    •Launched the Best Start payment, supporting parents with the costs of
    a newborn.
    •Launched a new Cancer Action Plan and made the largest ever direct
    investment in new radiation machines.
    •Secured a historic free trade agreement with the UK, which sees a
    boost of almost $1 billion to New Zealand’s GDP and unprecedented
    access for our exporters.
    •Funded thousands more places in out of school care (OSCAR), to help
    low-income parents get to work or training.
    •Extended the bright-line test to 10 years, to dampen speculative
    demand and tilt the balance towards first home buyers.
    •Delivered pay equity for teacher aides.
    •Introduced Warmer Kiwi Homes which has delivered almost 80,000
    insulation and heating installs in low-income homes since 2018,
    ensuring more low-income families have healthy homes and reduced power
    bills.
    •Provided interest-free and low-interest loans to help more than
    115,000 businesses stay afloat during COVID
    •Established a new Maori Health Authority to improve health outcomes
    for Maori.
    •Removed abortion from the Crimes Act, to make sure it’s treated as a
    health issue.
    •Brought back government funding for adult night classes, to give New Zealanders more opportunities to keep learning.
    •Boosted funding for Pharmac to ensure more Kiwis can get lifesaving
    medicines and treatments.
    •Supporting certificated teachers on the lowest pay in early education
    and care to move closer to pay parity with their equivalents in
    kindergartens.
    •Invested in over 1,700 regional economic development projects worth
    $4.3 billion.
    •Backing small and medium sized businesses with a new Business Growth
    Fund
    •Laid the foundations for a new firearms registry so Police get better information on who has what firearms where.
    •Started planting one billion trees, with more than 349 million
    already in the ground.
    •Supporting kohanga reo, to ensure kaiako and kaimahi are paid fairly
    and facilities are in good condition.
    •Rolled out free period products for all student across New Zealand,
    already 1,996 schools and kura have provided 343,472 students with
    access to products.
    •Committed $50 million to helping councils fully decarbonise the
    public transport bus fleet by 2035.
    •Created more than 7,190 environmental jobs in our regions through the
    Jobs for Nature programme.
    •Backed New Zealand exporters during COVID, providing on-the-ground
    support to help them connect with overseas markets.
    •Helping employers keep and take on new apprentices through
    Apprenticeship Boost.
    •Backed Kiwi research and development innovators and entrepreneurs
    with a substantial funding boost.
    •Delivered the largest ever funding boost for disability support
    services.
    •Established a national energy centre in Taranaki to accelerate the
    development of new clean energy technologies.
    •Rolling out high quality broadband services to 99.8 percent of the
    population through Ultra-Fast Broadband, Rural Broadband and related initiatives.
    •Launched the successful Opportunities Grow Here campaign to attract
    more people to vital food and fibre sector jobs
    •Injected more than $2.1 billion into regional economies through
    initiatives like the Provincial Growth Fund.
    •Increased funding for community law centres.
    •Rolled out the National Bowel Screening
    Programme to nearly all DHBs
    •More than doubled the funding for Search and Rescue, recreational
    boating safety and safety awareness to help save lives.
    •Extended free doctors’ visits for children to include 13-year-olds,
    reaching an extra 56,000 young

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Apr 13 20:28:31 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Just for information. This is of course a very short summary of a few
    of the achievements of the Ardern / Hipkins governments:

    LABOUR HAS
    •Introduced a new short term cost of living payment for 2.1 million
    Kiwis, to help with higher grocery and power bills.
    •Over 190,000 Kiwis supported to upskill with their trades training
    and apprenticeship programme.
    •Helped more than one million New Zealanders stay warm over the colder
    months through the Winter Energy Payment.
    •Increased the minimum wage to $21.20 per hour.
    •Delivered more than 12,500 public and transitional homes, as part of
    their plan to deliver more than 18,000 extra places by 2024.
    •Extended fuel tax cut and half-price public transport fees, as the
    war in Ukraine drives up fuel prices globally.
    •Made visiting the doctor cheaper or free for nearly 600,000 New
    Zealanders.
    •Extended paid parental leave from 18 to 26 weeks.
    •Made the biggest investment in mental health of any Budget.
    •Provided healthy, free school lunches to more than 200,000 students
    across the country, with 45 million lunches already served.
    •Passed the landmark Zero Carbon Act, with a target of net zero carbon >emissions by 2050.
    •Upgraded almost every state school in the country through the School >Investment Package.
    •Removed fees from NCEA and NZ Scholarship.
    •Launched the Best Start payment, supporting parents with the costs of
    a newborn.
    •Launched a new Cancer Action Plan and made the largest ever direct >investment in new radiation machines.
    •Secured a historic free trade agreement with the UK, which sees a
    boost of almost $1 billion to New Zealand’s GDP and unprecedented
    access for our exporters.
    •Funded thousands more places in out of school care (OSCAR), to help >low-income parents get to work or training.
    •Extended the bright-line test to 10 years, to dampen speculative
    demand and tilt the balance towards first home buyers.
    •Delivered pay equity for teacher aides.
    •Introduced Warmer Kiwi Homes which has delivered almost 80,000
    insulation and heating installs in low-income homes since 2018,
    ensuring more low-income families have healthy homes and reduced power
    bills.
    •Provided interest-free and low-interest loans to help more than
    115,000 businesses stay afloat during COVID
    •Established a new Maori Health Authority to improve health outcomes
    for Maori.
    •Removed abortion from the Crimes Act, to make sure it’s treated as a
    health issue.
    •Brought back government funding for adult night classes, to give New >Zealanders more opportunities to keep learning.
    •Boosted funding for Pharmac to ensure more Kiwis can get lifesaving >medicines and treatments.
    •Supporting certificated teachers on the lowest pay in early education
    and care to move closer to pay parity with their equivalents in >kindergartens.
    •Invested in over 1,700 regional economic development projects worth
    $4.3 billion.
    •Backing small and medium sized businesses with a new Business Growth
    Fund
    •Laid the foundations for a new firearms registry so Police get better >information on who has what firearms where.
    •Started planting one billion trees, with more than 349 million
    already in the ground.
    •Supporting kohanga reo, to ensure kaiako and kaimahi are paid fairly
    and facilities are in good condition.
    •Rolled out free period products for all student across New Zealand,
    already 1,996 schools and kura have provided 343,472 students with
    access to products.
    •Committed $50 million to helping councils fully decarbonise the
    public transport bus fleet by 2035.
    •Created more than 7,190 environmental jobs in our regions through the
    Jobs for Nature programme.
    •Backed New Zealand exporters during COVID, providing on-the-ground
    support to help them connect with overseas markets.
    •Helping employers keep and take on new apprentices through
    Apprenticeship Boost.
    •Backed Kiwi research and development innovators and entrepreneurs
    with a substantial funding boost.
    •Delivered the largest ever funding boost for disability support
    services.
    •Established a national energy centre in Taranaki to accelerate the >development of new clean energy technologies.
    •Rolling out high quality broadband services to 99.8 percent of the >population through Ultra-Fast Broadband, Rural Broadband and related >initiatives.
    •Launched the successful Opportunities Grow Here campaign to attract
    more people to vital food and fibre sector jobs
    •Injected more than $2.1 billion into regional economies through
    initiatives like the Provincial Growth Fund.
    •Increased funding for community law centres.
    •Rolled out the National Bowel Screening
    Programme to nearly all DHBs
    •More than doubled the funding for Search and Rescue, recreational
    boating safety and safety awareness to help save lives.
    •Extended free doctors’ visits for children to include 13-year-olds,
    reaching an extra 56,000 young
    90% of those are things that would have been rubber stamped by a minister at the request of a department - business as usual that would occur under any government at any time.
    The rest are small - notable absent are every single major promise made prior to the election.
    Good try but no cigar. Just cheap waste of time rhetoric.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Tony on Thu Apr 13 13:41:02 2023
    On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 8:28:33 AM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Just for information. This is of course a very short summary of a few
    of the achievements of the Ardern / Hipkins governments:

    LABOUR HAS
    肘ntroduced a new short term cost of living payment for 2.1 million >Kiwis, to help with higher grocery and power bills.
    桧ver 190,000 Kiwis supported to upskill with their trades training
    and apprenticeship programme.
    è±elped more than one million New Zealanders stay warm over the colder >months through the Winter Energy Payment.
    肘ncreased the minimum wage to $21.20 per hour.
    ç–‹elivered more than 12,500 public and transitional homes, as part of >their plan to deliver more than 18,000 extra places by 2024.
    é«­xtended fuel tax cut and half-price public transport fees, as the
    war in Ukraine drives up fuel prices globally.
    ç­†ade visiting the doctor cheaper or free for nearly 600,000 New >Zealanders.
    é«­xtended paid parental leave from 18 to 26 weeks.
    ç­†ade the biggest investment in mental health of any Budget.
    姫rovided healthy, free school lunches to more than 200,000 students >across the country, with 45 million lunches already served.
    姫assed the landmark Zero Carbon Act, with a target of net zero carbon >emissions by 2050.
    俵pgraded almost every state school in the country through the School >Investment Package.
    ç´emoved fees from NCEA and NZ Scholarship.
    ç•¢aunched the Best Start payment, supporting parents with the costs of
    a newborn.
    ç•¢aunched a new Cancer Action Plan and made the largest ever direct >investment in new radiation machines.
    百ecured a historic free trade agreement with the UK, which sees a
    boost of almost $1 billion to New Zealandç—´ GDP and unprecedented
    access for our exporters.
    彦unded thousands more places in out of school care (OSCAR), to help >low-income parents get to work or training.
    é«­xtended the bright-line test to 10 years, to dampen speculative
    demand and tilt the balance towards first home buyers.
    ç–‹elivered pay equity for teacher aides.
    肘ntroduced Warmer Kiwi Homes which has delivered almost 80,000 >insulation and heating installs in low-income homes since 2018,
    ensuring more low-income families have healthy homes and reduced power >bills.
    姫rovided interest-free and low-interest loans to help more than
    115,000 businesses stay afloat during COVID
    é«­stablished a new Maori Health Authority to improve health outcomes
    for Maori.
    ç´emoved abortion from the Crimes Act, to make sure itç—´ treated as a >health issue.
    稗rought back government funding for adult night classes, to give New >Zealanders more opportunities to keep learning.
    稗oosted funding for Pharmac to ensure more Kiwis can get lifesaving >medicines and treatments.
    百upporting certificated teachers on the lowest pay in early education >and care to move closer to pay parity with their equivalents in >kindergartens.
    肘nvested in over 1,700 regional economic development projects worth
    $4.3 billion.
    稗acking small and medium sized businesses with a new Business Growth >Fund
    ç•¢aid the foundations for a new firearms registry so Police get better >information on who has what firearms where.
    百tarted planting one billion trees, with more than 349 million
    already in the ground.
    百upporting kohanga reo, to ensure kaiako and kaimahi are paid fairly
    and facilities are in good condition.
    ç´olled out free period products for all student across New Zealand, >already 1,996 schools and kura have provided 343,472 students with
    access to products.
    匹ommitted $50 million to helping councils fully decarbonise the
    public transport bus fleet by 2035.
    匹reated more than 7,190 environmental jobs in our regions through the >Jobs for Nature programme.
    稗acked New Zealand exporters during COVID, providing on-the-ground >support to help them connect with overseas markets.
    è±elping employers keep and take on new apprentices through >Apprenticeship Boost.
    稗acked Kiwi research and development innovators and entrepreneurs
    with a substantial funding boost.
    ç–‹elivered the largest ever funding boost for disability support >services.
    é«­stablished a national energy centre in Taranaki to accelerate the >development of new clean energy technologies.
    ç´olling out high quality broadband services to 99.8 percent of the >population through Ultra-Fast Broadband, Rural Broadband and related >initiatives.
    ç•¢aunched the successful Opportunities Grow Here campaign to attract
    more people to vital food and fibre sector jobs
    肘njected more than $2.1 billion into regional economies through >initiatives like the Provincial Growth Fund.
    肘ncreased funding for community law centres.
    ç´olled out the National Bowel Screening
    Programme to nearly all DHBs
    ç­†ore than doubled the funding for Search and Rescue, recreational >boating safety and safety awareness to help save lives.
    髭xtended free doctors�visits for children to include 13-year-olds, >reaching an extra 56,000 young
    90% of those are things that would have been rubber stamped by a minister at the request of a department - business as usual that would occur under any government at any time.
    The rest are small - notable absent are every single major promise made prior
    to the election.
    Good try but no cigar. Just cheap waste of time rhetoric.
    Notice nothing of vital importance in that Labour generated propaganda list? They didn't list a destroyed economy, or it's anti women's rights attitude, or it's anti democracy stance, or it's bribery of journalists, or it's support of rioting trans. So
    much Labour is trying to sweep under the carpet...

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  • From HitAnyKey@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 13 22:32:33 2023
    On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 08:16:44 +1200, Rich80105 wrote:

    Just for information. This is of course a very short summary of a few
    of the achievements of the Ardern / Hipkins governments:

    LABOUR HAS
    •Introduced a new short term cost of living payment for 2.1 million
    Kiwis, to help with higher grocery and power bills.
    •Over 190,000 Kiwis supported to upskill with their trades training
    and apprenticeship programme.
    •Helped more than one million New Zealanders stay warm over the colder months through the Winter Energy Payment.
    •Increased the minimum wage to $21.20 per hour.
    •Delivered more than 12,500 public and transitional homes, as part of
    their plan to deliver more than 18,000 extra places by 2024.
    •Extended fuel tax cut and half-price public transport fees, as the
    war in Ukraine drives up fuel prices globally.
    •Made visiting the doctor cheaper or free for nearly 600,000 New
    Zealanders.
    •Extended paid parental leave from 18 to 26 weeks.
    •Made the biggest investment in mental health of any Budget.
    •Provided healthy, free school lunches to more than 200,000 students
    across the country, with 45 million lunches already served.
    •Passed the landmark Zero Carbon Act, with a target of net zero carbon emissions by 2050.
    •Upgraded almost every state school in the country through the School Investment Package.
    •Removed fees from NCEA and NZ Scholarship.
    •Launched the Best Start payment, supporting parents with the costs of
    a newborn.
    •Launched a new Cancer Action Plan and made the largest ever direct investment in new radiation machines.
    •Secured a historic free trade agreement with the UK, which sees a
    boost of almost $1 billion to New ZealandÂ’s GDP and unprecedented
    access for our exporters.
    •Funded thousands more places in out of school care (OSCAR), to help low-income parents get to work or training.
    •Extended the bright-line test to 10 years, to dampen speculative
    demand and tilt the balance towards first home buyers.
    •Delivered pay equity for teacher aides.
    •Introduced Warmer Kiwi Homes which has delivered almost 80,000
    insulation and heating installs in low-income homes since 2018,
    ensuring more low-income families have healthy homes and reduced power
    bills.
    •Provided interest-free and low-interest loans to help more than
    115,000 businesses stay afloat during COVID
    •Established a new Maori Health Authority to improve health outcomes
    for Maori.
    •Removed abortion from the Crimes Act, to make sure it’s treated as a health issue.
    •Brought back government funding for adult night classes, to give New Zealanders more opportunities to keep learning.
    •Boosted funding for Pharmac to ensure more Kiwis can get lifesaving medicines and treatments.
    •Supporting certificated teachers on the lowest pay in early education
    and care to move closer to pay parity with their equivalents in kindergartens.
    •Invested in over 1,700 regional economic development projects worth
    $4.3 billion.
    •Backing small and medium sized businesses with a new Business Growth
    Fund
    •Laid the foundations for a new firearms registry so Police get better information on who has what firearms where.
    •Started planting one billion trees, with more than 349 million
    already in the ground.
    •Supporting kohanga reo, to ensure kaiako and kaimahi are paid fairly
    and facilities are in good condition.
    •Rolled out free period products for all student across New Zealand,
    already 1,996 schools and kura have provided 343,472 students with
    access to products.
    •Committed $50 million to helping councils fully decarbonise the
    public transport bus fleet by 2035.
    •Created more than 7,190 environmental jobs in our regions through the
    Jobs for Nature programme.
    •Backed New Zealand exporters during COVID, providing on-the-ground
    support to help them connect with overseas markets.
    •Helping employers keep and take on new apprentices through
    Apprenticeship Boost.
    •Backed Kiwi research and development innovators and entrepreneurs
    with a substantial funding boost.
    •Delivered the largest ever funding boost for disability support
    services.
    •Established a national energy centre in Taranaki to accelerate the development of new clean energy technologies.
    •Rolling out high quality broadband services to 99.8 percent of the population through Ultra-Fast Broadband, Rural Broadband and related initiatives.
    •Launched the successful Opportunities Grow Here campaign to attract
    more people to vital food and fibre sector jobs
    •Injected more than $2.1 billion into regional economies through
    initiatives like the Provincial Growth Fund.
    •Increased funding for community law centres.
    •Rolled out the National Bowel Screening
    Programme to nearly all DHBs
    •More than doubled the funding for Search and Rescue, recreational
    boating safety and safety awareness to help save lives.
    •Extended free doctors’ visits for children to include 13-year-olds, reaching an extra 56,000 young

    Well, it's certainly not an impartial list .....

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 14 11:07:27 2023
    On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 08:16:44 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:


    Just for information. This is of course a very short summary of a few
    of the achievements of the Ardern / Hipkins governments:

    LABOUR HAS
    •Introduced a new short term cost of living payment for 2.1 million
    Kiwis, to help with higher grocery and power bills.
    •Over 190,000 Kiwis supported to upskill with their trades training
    and apprenticeship programme.
    •Helped more than one million New Zealanders stay warm over the colder
    months through the Winter Energy Payment.
    •Increased the minimum wage to $21.20 per hour.
    •Delivered more than 12,500 public and transitional homes, as part of
    their plan to deliver more than 18,000 extra places by 2024.
    •Extended fuel tax cut and half-price public transport fees, as the
    war in Ukraine drives up fuel prices globally.
    •Made visiting the doctor cheaper or free for nearly 600,000 New
    Zealanders.
    •Extended paid parental leave from 18 to 26 weeks.
    •Made the biggest investment in mental health of any Budget.
    •Provided healthy, free school lunches to more than 200,000 students
    across the country, with 45 million lunches already served.
    •Passed the landmark Zero Carbon Act, with a target of net zero carbon >emissions by 2050.
    •Upgraded almost every state school in the country through the School >Investment Package.
    •Removed fees from NCEA and NZ Scholarship.
    •Launched the Best Start payment, supporting parents with the costs of
    a newborn.
    •Launched a new Cancer Action Plan and made the largest ever direct >investment in new radiation machines.
    •Secured a historic free trade agreement with the UK, which sees a
    boost of almost $1 billion to New Zealand’s GDP and unprecedented
    access for our exporters.
    •Funded thousands more places in out of school care (OSCAR), to help >low-income parents get to work or training.
    •Extended the bright-line test to 10 years, to dampen speculative
    demand and tilt the balance towards first home buyers.
    •Delivered pay equity for teacher aides.
    •Introduced Warmer Kiwi Homes which has delivered almost 80,000
    insulation and heating installs in low-income homes since 2018,
    ensuring more low-income families have healthy homes and reduced power
    bills.
    •Provided interest-free and low-interest loans to help more than
    115,000 businesses stay afloat during COVID
    •Established a new Maori Health Authority to improve health outcomes
    for Maori.
    •Removed abortion from the Crimes Act, to make sure it’s treated as a
    health issue.
    •Brought back government funding for adult night classes, to give New >Zealanders more opportunities to keep learning.
    •Boosted funding for Pharmac to ensure more Kiwis can get lifesaving >medicines and treatments.
    •Supporting certificated teachers on the lowest pay in early education
    and care to move closer to pay parity with their equivalents in >kindergartens.
    •Invested in over 1,700 regional economic development projects worth
    $4.3 billion.
    •Backing small and medium sized businesses with a new Business Growth
    Fund
    •Laid the foundations for a new firearms registry so Police get better >information on who has what firearms where.
    •Started planting one billion trees, with more than 349 million
    already in the ground.
    •Supporting kohanga reo, to ensure kaiako and kaimahi are paid fairly
    and facilities are in good condition.
    •Rolled out free period products for all student across New Zealand,
    already 1,996 schools and kura have provided 343,472 students with
    access to products.
    •Committed $50 million to helping councils fully decarbonise the
    public transport bus fleet by 2035.
    •Created more than 7,190 environmental jobs in our regions through the
    Jobs for Nature programme.
    •Backed New Zealand exporters during COVID, providing on-the-ground
    support to help them connect with overseas markets.
    •Helping employers keep and take on new apprentices through
    Apprenticeship Boost.
    •Backed Kiwi research and development innovators and entrepreneurs
    with a substantial funding boost.
    •Delivered the largest ever funding boost for disability support
    services.
    •Established a national energy centre in Taranaki to accelerate the >development of new clean energy technologies.
    •Rolling out high quality broadband services to 99.8 percent of the >population through Ultra-Fast Broadband, Rural Broadband and related >initiatives.
    •Launched the successful Opportunities Grow Here campaign to attract
    more people to vital food and fibre sector jobs
    •Injected more than $2.1 billion into regional economies through
    initiatives like the Provincial Growth Fund.
    •Increased funding for community law centres.
    •Rolled out the National Bowel Screening
    Programme to nearly all DHBs
    •More than doubled the funding for Search and Rescue, recreational
    boating safety and safety awareness to help save lives.
    •Extended free doctors’ visits for children to include 13-year-olds,
    reaching an extra 56,000 young

    Why bother with a quick partial list Rich? The list is predominantly
    funding - new or increased funding. Significant by its absence is any
    evidence of actual delivery of outcomes and this neatly sums up how
    Labour operate.

    I suspect that Labour will make more comprehensive claims during the
    election campaign.


    --
    Crash McBash

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 14 00:49:37 2023
    On 2023-04-13, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    Just for information. This is of course a very short summary of a few
    of the achievements of the Ardern / Hipkins governments:

    LABOUR HAS
    •Introduced a new short term cost of living payment for 2.1 million
    Kiwis, to help with higher grocery and power bills.

    Cause by inflation, caused by the Government spending like all were all
    going to die the next day.

    •Over 190,000 Kiwis supported to upskill with their trades training
    and apprenticeship programme.
    •Helped more than one million New Zealanders stay warm over the colder months through the Winter Energy Payment.

    But not deat with the cause og high power prices

    •Increased the minimum wage to $21.20 per hour.

    This was was back when? It is higher now


    •Delivered more than 12,500 public and transitional homes, as part of
    their plan to deliver more than 18,000 extra places by 2024.

    Delivered a very small number of the number promised

    •Extended fuel tax cut and half-price public transport fees, as the
    war in Ukraine drives up fuel prices globally.

    Once again this was months ago. Fuel prices have fallen since then.

    •Made visiting the doctor cheaper or free for nearly 600,000 New
    Zealanders.

    This might be the exception.

    •Extended paid parental leave from 18 to 26 weeks.
    •Made the biggest investment in mental health of any Budget.

    Got almost nothing of value out of it

    •Provided healthy, free school lunches to more than 200,000 students
    across the country, with 45 million lunches already served.

    Once agai. Not fixed the problem.


    •Passed the landmark Zero Carbon Act, with a target of net zero carbon emissions by 2050.

    This will help to made Kiiws poor, while doing very little to the "cause"

    I'll leave it there.

    Seems to be no mention of the Covid response, or indeed all the other
    failures.

    •Upgraded almost every state school in the country through the School Investment Package.
    •Removed fees from NCEA and NZ Scholarship.
    •Launched the Best Start payment, supporting parents with the costs of
    a newborn.
    •Launched a new Cancer Action Plan and made the largest ever direct investment in new radiation machines.
    •Secured a historic free trade agreement with the UK, which sees a
    boost of almost $1 billion to New ZealandÂ’s GDP and unprecedented
    access for our exporters.
    •Funded thousands more places in out of school care (OSCAR), to help low-income parents get to work or training.
    •Extended the bright-line test to 10 years, to dampen speculative
    demand and tilt the balance towards first home buyers.
    •Delivered pay equity for teacher aides.
    •Introduced Warmer Kiwi Homes which has delivered almost 80,000
    insulation and heating installs in low-income homes since 2018,
    ensuring more low-income families have healthy homes and reduced power
    bills.
    •Provided interest-free and low-interest loans to help more than
    115,000 businesses stay afloat during COVID
    •Established a new Maori Health Authority to improve health outcomes
    for Maori.
    •Removed abortion from the Crimes Act, to make sure it’s treated as a health issue.
    •Brought back government funding for adult night classes, to give New Zealanders more opportunities to keep learning.
    •Boosted funding for Pharmac to ensure more Kiwis can get lifesaving medicines and treatments.
    •Supporting certificated teachers on the lowest pay in early education
    and care to move closer to pay parity with their equivalents in kindergartens.
    •Invested in over 1,700 regional economic development projects worth
    $4.3 billion.
    •Backing small and medium sized businesses with a new Business Growth
    Fund
    •Laid the foundations for a new firearms registry so Police get better information on who has what firearms where.
    •Started planting one billion trees, with more than 349 million
    already in the ground.
    •Supporting kohanga reo, to ensure kaiako and kaimahi are paid fairly
    and facilities are in good condition.
    •Rolled out free period products for all student across New Zealand,
    already 1,996 schools and kura have provided 343,472 students with
    access to products.
    •Committed $50 million to helping councils fully decarbonise the
    public transport bus fleet by 2035.
    •Created more than 7,190 environmental jobs in our regions through the
    Jobs for Nature programme.
    •Backed New Zealand exporters during COVID, providing on-the-ground
    support to help them connect with overseas markets.
    •Helping employers keep and take on new apprentices through
    Apprenticeship Boost.
    •Backed Kiwi research and development innovators and entrepreneurs
    with a substantial funding boost.
    •Delivered the largest ever funding boost for disability support
    services.
    •Established a national energy centre in Taranaki to accelerate the development of new clean energy technologies.
    •Rolling out high quality broadband services to 99.8 percent of the population through Ultra-Fast Broadband, Rural Broadband and related initiatives.
    •Launched the successful Opportunities Grow Here campaign to attract
    more people to vital food and fibre sector jobs
    •Injected more than $2.1 billion into regional economies through
    initiatives like the Provincial Growth Fund.
    •Increased funding for community law centres.
    •Rolled out the National Bowel Screening
    Programme to nearly all DHBs
    •More than doubled the funding for Search and Rescue, recreational
    boating safety and safety awareness to help save lives.
    •Extended free doctors’ visits for children to include 13-year-olds, reaching an extra 56,000 young

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to bowesjohn02@gmail.com on Fri Apr 14 12:51:28 2023
    On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 13:41:02 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 8:28:33?AM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Just for information. This is of course a very short summary of a few
    of the achievements of the Ardern / Hipkins governments:

    LABOUR HAS
    ?ntroduced a new short term cost of living payment for 2.1 million
    Kiwis, to help with higher grocery and power bills.
    ?ver 190,000 Kiwis supported to upskill with their trades training
    and apprenticeship programme.
    ?elped more than one million New Zealanders stay warm over the colder
    months through the Winter Energy Payment.
    ?ncreased the minimum wage to $21.20 per hour.
    ?elivered more than 12,500 public and transitional homes, as part of
    their plan to deliver more than 18,000 extra places by 2024.
    ?xtended fuel tax cut and half-price public transport fees, as the
    war in Ukraine drives up fuel prices globally.
    ?ade visiting the doctor cheaper or free for nearly 600,000 New
    Zealanders.
    ?xtended paid parental leave from 18 to 26 weeks.
    ?ade the biggest investment in mental health of any Budget.
    ?rovided healthy, free school lunches to more than 200,000 students
    across the country, with 45 million lunches already served.
    ?assed the landmark Zero Carbon Act, with a target of net zero carbon
    emissions by 2050.
    ?pgraded almost every state school in the country through the School
    Investment Package.
    ?emoved fees from NCEA and NZ Scholarship.
    ?aunched the Best Start payment, supporting parents with the costs of
    a newborn.
    ?aunched a new Cancer Action Plan and made the largest ever direct
    investment in new radiation machines.
    ?ecured a historic free trade agreement with the UK, which sees a
    boost of almost $1 billion to New Zealand? GDP and unprecedented
    access for our exporters.
    ?unded thousands more places in out of school care (OSCAR), to help
    low-income parents get to work or training.
    ?xtended the bright-line test to 10 years, to dampen speculative
    demand and tilt the balance towards first home buyers.
    ?elivered pay equity for teacher aides.
    ?ntroduced Warmer Kiwi Homes which has delivered almost 80,000
    insulation and heating installs in low-income homes since 2018,
    ensuring more low-income families have healthy homes and reduced power
    bills.
    ?rovided interest-free and low-interest loans to help more than
    115,000 businesses stay afloat during COVID
    ?stablished a new Maori Health Authority to improve health outcomes
    for Maori.
    ?emoved abortion from the Crimes Act, to make sure it? treated as a
    health issue.
    ?rought back government funding for adult night classes, to give New
    Zealanders more opportunities to keep learning.
    ?oosted funding for Pharmac to ensure more Kiwis can get lifesaving
    medicines and treatments.
    ?upporting certificated teachers on the lowest pay in early education
    and care to move closer to pay parity with their equivalents in
    kindergartens.
    ?nvested in over 1,700 regional economic development projects worth
    $4.3 billion.
    ?acking small and medium sized businesses with a new Business Growth
    Fund
    ?aid the foundations for a new firearms registry so Police get better
    information on who has what firearms where.
    ?tarted planting one billion trees, with more than 349 million
    already in the ground.
    ?upporting kohanga reo, to ensure kaiako and kaimahi are paid fairly
    and facilities are in good condition.
    ?olled out free period products for all student across New Zealand,
    already 1,996 schools and kura have provided 343,472 students with
    access to products.
    ?ommitted $50 million to helping councils fully decarbonise the
    public transport bus fleet by 2035.
    ?reated more than 7,190 environmental jobs in our regions through the
    Jobs for Nature programme.
    ?acked New Zealand exporters during COVID, providing on-the-ground
    support to help them connect with overseas markets.
    ?elping employers keep and take on new apprentices through
    Apprenticeship Boost.
    ?acked Kiwi research and development innovators and entrepreneurs
    with a substantial funding boost.
    ?elivered the largest ever funding boost for disability support
    services.
    ?stablished a national energy centre in Taranaki to accelerate the
    development of new clean energy technologies.
    ?olling out high quality broadband services to 99.8 percent of the
    population through Ultra-Fast Broadband, Rural Broadband and related
    initiatives.
    ?aunched the successful Opportunities Grow Here campaign to attract
    more people to vital food and fibre sector jobs
    ?njected more than $2.1 billion into regional economies through
    initiatives like the Provincial Growth Fund.
    ?ncreased funding for community law centres.
    ?olled out the National Bowel Screening
    Programme to nearly all DHBs
    ?ore than doubled the funding for Search and Rescue, recreational
    boating safety and safety awareness to help save lives.
    ?xtended free doctors?visits for children to include 13-year-olds,
    reaching an extra 56,000 young
    90% of those are things that would have been rubber stamped by a minister at >> the request of a department - business as usual that would occur under any >> government at any time.
    The rest are small - notable absent are every single major promise made prior
    to the election.
    Good try but no cigar. Just cheap waste of time rhetoric.
    Notice nothing of vital importance in that Labour generated propaganda list? They didn't list a destroyed economy, or it's anti women's rights attitude, or it's anti democracy stance, or it's bribery of journalists, or it's support of rioting trans. So
    much Labour is trying to sweep under the carpet...
    On the contrary, New Zealand came through Covid not just with lower
    death rates than any other country, but with low unemployment, and few businesses disappearing - our economy has thrived rather than being
    destroyed. Supporting those that differ in some ways from the majority
    is one of New Zealand's real strengths - showed most dramatically
    after the Christchurch shooting with the declaration that 'They are
    Us"; our acceptance of those that are different, including you John
    Bowes, is a real strength of our national we do not rip ourselves
    apart with destructive racism; we endeavour to treat all equally, and,
    unlike the opposition to offer equal opportunities to all New
    Zealanders.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 14 12:52:46 2023
    On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 11:07:27 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 08:16:44 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:


    Just for information. This is of course a very short summary of a few
    of the achievements of the Ardern / Hipkins governments:

    LABOUR HAS
    •Introduced a new short term cost of living payment for 2.1 million
    Kiwis, to help with higher grocery and power bills.
    •Over 190,000 Kiwis supported to upskill with their trades training
    and apprenticeship programme.
    •Helped more than one million New Zealanders stay warm over the colder >>months through the Winter Energy Payment.
    •Increased the minimum wage to $21.20 per hour.
    •Delivered more than 12,500 public and transitional homes, as part of
    their plan to deliver more than 18,000 extra places by 2024.
    •Extended fuel tax cut and half-price public transport fees, as the
    war in Ukraine drives up fuel prices globally.
    •Made visiting the doctor cheaper or free for nearly 600,000 New >>Zealanders.
    •Extended paid parental leave from 18 to 26 weeks.
    •Made the biggest investment in mental health of any Budget.
    •Provided healthy, free school lunches to more than 200,000 students
    across the country, with 45 million lunches already served.
    •Passed the landmark Zero Carbon Act, with a target of net zero carbon >>emissions by 2050.
    •Upgraded almost every state school in the country through the School >>Investment Package.
    •Removed fees from NCEA and NZ Scholarship.
    •Launched the Best Start payment, supporting parents with the costs of
    a newborn.
    •Launched a new Cancer Action Plan and made the largest ever direct >>investment in new radiation machines.
    •Secured a historic free trade agreement with the UK, which sees a
    boost of almost $1 billion to New Zealand’s GDP and unprecedented
    access for our exporters.
    •Funded thousands more places in out of school care (OSCAR), to help >>low-income parents get to work or training.
    •Extended the bright-line test to 10 years, to dampen speculative
    demand and tilt the balance towards first home buyers.
    •Delivered pay equity for teacher aides.
    •Introduced Warmer Kiwi Homes which has delivered almost 80,000
    insulation and heating installs in low-income homes since 2018,
    ensuring more low-income families have healthy homes and reduced power >>bills.
    •Provided interest-free and low-interest loans to help more than
    115,000 businesses stay afloat during COVID
    •Established a new Maori Health Authority to improve health outcomes
    for Maori.
    •Removed abortion from the Crimes Act, to make sure it’s treated as a >>health issue.
    •Brought back government funding for adult night classes, to give New >>Zealanders more opportunities to keep learning.
    •Boosted funding for Pharmac to ensure more Kiwis can get lifesaving >>medicines and treatments.
    •Supporting certificated teachers on the lowest pay in early education
    and care to move closer to pay parity with their equivalents in >>kindergartens.
    •Invested in over 1,700 regional economic development projects worth
    $4.3 billion.
    •Backing small and medium sized businesses with a new Business Growth
    Fund
    •Laid the foundations for a new firearms registry so Police get better >>information on who has what firearms where.
    •Started planting one billion trees, with more than 349 million
    already in the ground.
    •Supporting kohanga reo, to ensure kaiako and kaimahi are paid fairly
    and facilities are in good condition.
    •Rolled out free period products for all student across New Zealand, >>already 1,996 schools and kura have provided 343,472 students with
    access to products.
    •Committed $50 million to helping councils fully decarbonise the
    public transport bus fleet by 2035.
    •Created more than 7,190 environmental jobs in our regions through the
    Jobs for Nature programme.
    •Backed New Zealand exporters during COVID, providing on-the-ground
    support to help them connect with overseas markets.
    •Helping employers keep and take on new apprentices through
    Apprenticeship Boost.
    •Backed Kiwi research and development innovators and entrepreneurs
    with a substantial funding boost.
    •Delivered the largest ever funding boost for disability support
    services.
    •Established a national energy centre in Taranaki to accelerate the >>development of new clean energy technologies.
    •Rolling out high quality broadband services to 99.8 percent of the >>population through Ultra-Fast Broadband, Rural Broadband and related >>initiatives.
    •Launched the successful Opportunities Grow Here campaign to attract
    more people to vital food and fibre sector jobs
    •Injected more than $2.1 billion into regional economies through >>initiatives like the Provincial Growth Fund.
    •Increased funding for community law centres.
    •Rolled out the National Bowel Screening
    Programme to nearly all DHBs
    •More than doubled the funding for Search and Rescue, recreational
    boating safety and safety awareness to help save lives.
    •Extended free doctors’ visits for children to include 13-year-olds, >>reaching an extra 56,000 young

    Why bother with a quick partial list Rich? The list is predominantly
    funding - new or increased funding. Significant by its absence is any >evidence of actual delivery of outcomes and this neatly sums up how
    Labour operate.

    I suspect that Labour will make more comprehensive claims during the
    election campaign.
    I am sure you are correct Crash - they have plenty of other successes
    to talk about.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 13 18:02:43 2023
    On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 12:56:16 PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 11:07:27 +1200, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 08:16:44 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
    wrote:


    Just for information. This is of course a very short summary of a few
    of the achievements of the Ardern / Hipkins governments:

    LABOUR HAS
    肘ntroduced a new short term cost of living payment for 2.1 million >>Kiwis, to help with higher grocery and power bills.
    桧ver 190,000 Kiwis supported to upskill with their trades training
    and apprenticeship programme.
    è±elped more than one million New Zealanders stay warm over the colder >>months through the Winter Energy Payment.
    肘ncreased the minimum wage to $21.20 per hour.
    ç–‹elivered more than 12,500 public and transitional homes, as part of >>their plan to deliver more than 18,000 extra places by 2024.
    é«­xtended fuel tax cut and half-price public transport fees, as the
    war in Ukraine drives up fuel prices globally.
    ç­†ade visiting the doctor cheaper or free for nearly 600,000 New >>Zealanders.
    é«­xtended paid parental leave from 18 to 26 weeks.
    ç­†ade the biggest investment in mental health of any Budget.
    姫rovided healthy, free school lunches to more than 200,000 students >>across the country, with 45 million lunches already served.
    姫assed the landmark Zero Carbon Act, with a target of net zero carbon >>emissions by 2050.
    俵pgraded almost every state school in the country through the School >>Investment Package.
    ç´emoved fees from NCEA and NZ Scholarship.
    ç•¢aunched the Best Start payment, supporting parents with the costs of >>a newborn.
    ç•¢aunched a new Cancer Action Plan and made the largest ever direct >>investment in new radiation machines.
    百ecured a historic free trade agreement with the UK, which sees a >>boost of almost $1 billion to New Zealand痴 GDP and unprecedented >>access for our exporters.
    彦unded thousands more places in out of school care (OSCAR), to help >>low-income parents get to work or training.
    é«­xtended the bright-line test to 10 years, to dampen speculative >>demand and tilt the balance towards first home buyers.
    ç–‹elivered pay equity for teacher aides.
    肘ntroduced Warmer Kiwi Homes which has delivered almost 80,000 >>insulation and heating installs in low-income homes since 2018,
    ensuring more low-income families have healthy homes and reduced power >>bills.
    姫rovided interest-free and low-interest loans to help more than >>115,000 businesses stay afloat during COVID
    é«­stablished a new Maori Health Authority to improve health outcomes >>for Maori.
    ç´emoved abortion from the Crimes Act, to make sure itç—´ treated as a >>health issue.
    稗rought back government funding for adult night classes, to give New >>Zealanders more opportunities to keep learning.
    稗oosted funding for Pharmac to ensure more Kiwis can get lifesaving >>medicines and treatments.
    百upporting certificated teachers on the lowest pay in early education >>and care to move closer to pay parity with their equivalents in >>kindergartens.
    肘nvested in over 1,700 regional economic development projects worth >>$4.3 billion.
    稗acking small and medium sized businesses with a new Business Growth >>Fund
    ç•¢aid the foundations for a new firearms registry so Police get better >>information on who has what firearms where.
    百tarted planting one billion trees, with more than 349 million
    already in the ground.
    百upporting kohanga reo, to ensure kaiako and kaimahi are paid fairly >>and facilities are in good condition.
    ç´olled out free period products for all student across New Zealand, >>already 1,996 schools and kura have provided 343,472 students with >>access to products.
    匹ommitted $50 million to helping councils fully decarbonise the
    public transport bus fleet by 2035.
    匹reated more than 7,190 environmental jobs in our regions through the >>Jobs for Nature programme.
    稗acked New Zealand exporters during COVID, providing on-the-ground >>support to help them connect with overseas markets.
    è±elping employers keep and take on new apprentices through >>Apprenticeship Boost.
    稗acked Kiwi research and development innovators and entrepreneurs
    with a substantial funding boost.
    ç–‹elivered the largest ever funding boost for disability support >>services.
    é«­stablished a national energy centre in Taranaki to accelerate the >>development of new clean energy technologies.
    ç´olling out high quality broadband services to 99.8 percent of the >>population through Ultra-Fast Broadband, Rural Broadband and related >>initiatives.
    ç•¢aunched the successful Opportunities Grow Here campaign to attract >>more people to vital food and fibre sector jobs
    肘njected more than $2.1 billion into regional economies through >>initiatives like the Provincial Growth Fund.
    肘ncreased funding for community law centres.
    ç´olled out the National Bowel Screening
    Programme to nearly all DHBs
    ç­†ore than doubled the funding for Search and Rescue, recreational >>boating safety and safety awareness to help save lives.
    髭xtended free doctors�visits for children to include 13-year-olds, >>reaching an extra 56,000 young

    Why bother with a quick partial list Rich? The list is predominantly >funding - new or increased funding. Significant by its absence is any >evidence of actual delivery of outcomes and this neatly sums up how
    Labour operate.

    I suspect that Labour will make more comprehensive claims during the >election campaign.
    I am sure you are correct Crash - they have plenty of other successes
    to talk about.
    But far more failures! Things like a shortage of medical staff, bus drivers, fruit pickers. All we've had from Labour Rich is lies, platitudes and damn all action! Labour will be remembered as the talkie government not the doie one! AND_YOU_KNOW_IT!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to Gordon on Fri Apr 14 13:43:10 2023
    On 14 Apr 2023 00:49:37 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-04-13, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    Just for information. This is of course a very short summary of a few
    of the achievements of the Ardern / Hipkins governments:

    LABOUR HAS
    ?Introduced a new short term cost of living payment for 2.1 million
    Kiwis, to help with higher grocery and power bills.

    Cause by inflation, caused by the Government spending like all were all
    going to die the next day.


    ?Over 190,000 Kiwis supported to upskill with their trades training
    and apprenticeship programme.
    ?Helped more than one million New Zealanders stay warm over the colder
    months through the Winter Energy Payment.

    But not deat with the cause og high power prices
    Indeed, that "competitive" structure that has the players competing to
    have the highest charges is a right bugger - the option of buying the
    other shareholders out will not be easy.


    ?Increased the minimum wage to $21.20 per hour.

    This was was back when? It is higher now
    Indeed Labour Governments increase it regularly - better than the
    other lot . . .



    ?Delivered more than 12,500 public and transitional homes, as part of
    their plan to deliver more than 18,000 extra places by 2024.

    Delivered a very small number of the number promised
    They also delivered a large number of refurbished state houses, but
    they are well on the way to meeting that target - despite Covid and a
    maxxed out building industry . . .


    ?Extended fuel tax cut and half-price public transport fees, as the
    war in Ukraine drives up fuel prices globally.

    Once again this was months ago. Fuel prices have fallen since then.
    But they did it - the other lot would not have . . .


    ?Made visiting the doctor cheaper or free for nearly 600,000 New
    Zealanders.

    This might be the exception.

    ?Extended paid parental leave from 18 to 26 weeks.
    ?Made the biggest investment in mental health of any Budget.

    Got almost nothing of value out of it
    Paid Parental leave has been good for quite a lot of families; mental
    health will take longer; it is more complex than some other health
    issues and requires recruiting in a difficult market. Both initiatives
    the other lot argued against


    ?Provided healthy, free school lunches to more than 200,000 students
    across the country, with 45 million lunches already served.

    Once agai. Not fixed the problem.
    But a lot further ahead than we were - again fought against by
    National, but not one National would now reverse . . .



    ?Passed the landmark Zero Carbon Act, with a target of net zero carbon
    emissions by 2050.

    This will help to made Kiiws poor, while doing very little to the "cause"
    It may save us paying a lot to other countries - it seems National and
    its supporters don't agree with honouring contracts . . .


    I'll leave it there.

    Seems to be no mention of the Covid response, or indeed all the other >failures.
    Our Covid response was world-leading - both interms of lives and
    economic resilience



    ?Upgraded almost every state school in the country through the School
    Investment Package.
    ?Removed fees from NCEA and NZ Scholarship.
    ?Launched the Best Start payment, supporting parents with the costs of
    a newborn.
    ?Launched a new Cancer Action Plan and made the largest ever direct
    investment in new radiation machines.
    ?Secured a historic free trade agreement with the UK, which sees a
    boost of almost $1 billion to New Zealand?s GDP and unprecedented
    access for our exporters.
    ?Funded thousands more places in out of school care (OSCAR), to help
    low-income parents get to work or training.
    ?Extended the bright-line test to 10 years, to dampen speculative
    demand and tilt the balance towards first home buyers.
    ?Delivered pay equity for teacher aides.
    ?Introduced Warmer Kiwi Homes which has delivered almost 80,000
    insulation and heating installs in low-income homes since 2018,
    ensuring more low-income families have healthy homes and reduced power
    bills.
    ?Provided interest-free and low-interest loans to help more than
    115,000 businesses stay afloat during COVID
    ?Established a new Maori Health Authority to improve health outcomes
    for Maori.
    ?Removed abortion from the Crimes Act, to make sure it?s treated as a
    health issue.
    ?Brought back government funding for adult night classes, to give New
    Zealanders more opportunities to keep learning.
    ?Boosted funding for Pharmac to ensure more Kiwis can get lifesaving
    medicines and treatments.
    ?Supporting certificated teachers on the lowest pay in early education
    and care to move closer to pay parity with their equivalents in
    kindergartens.
    ?Invested in over 1,700 regional economic development projects worth
    $4.3 billion.
    ?Backing small and medium sized businesses with a new Business Growth
    Fund
    ?Laid the foundations for a new firearms registry so Police get better
    information on who has what firearms where.
    ?Started planting one billion trees, with more than 349 million
    already in the ground.
    ?Supporting kohanga reo, to ensure kaiako and kaimahi are paid fairly
    and facilities are in good condition.
    ?Rolled out free period products for all student across New Zealand,
    already 1,996 schools and kura have provided 343,472 students with
    access to products.
    ?Committed $50 million to helping councils fully decarbonise the
    public transport bus fleet by 2035.
    ?Created more than 7,190 environmental jobs in our regions through the
    Jobs for Nature programme.
    ?Backed New Zealand exporters during COVID, providing on-the-ground
    support to help them connect with overseas markets.
    ?Helping employers keep and take on new apprentices through
    Apprenticeship Boost.
    ?Backed Kiwi research and development innovators and entrepreneurs
    with a substantial funding boost.
    ?Delivered the largest ever funding boost for disability support
    services.
    ?Established a national energy centre in Taranaki to accelerate the
    development of new clean energy technologies.
    ?Rolling out high quality broadband services to 99.8 percent of the
    population through Ultra-Fast Broadband, Rural Broadband and related
    initiatives.
    ?Launched the successful Opportunities Grow Here campaign to attract
    more people to vital food and fibre sector jobs
    ?Injected more than $2.1 billion into regional economies through
    initiatives like the Provincial Growth Fund.
    ?Increased funding for community law centres.
    ?Rolled out the National Bowel Screening
    Programme to nearly all DHBs
    ?More than doubled the funding for Search and Rescue, recreational
    boating safety and safety awareness to help save lives.
    ?Extended free doctors? visits for children to include 13-year-olds,
    reaching an extra 56,000 young

    Most of these being policies National fought - they only want to drop
    the top tax rate; nothing else matters to them . . .

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 14 02:20:27 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 14 Apr 2023 00:49:37 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-04-13, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    Just for information. This is of course a very short summary of a few
    of the achievements of the Ardern / Hipkins governments:

    LABOUR HAS
    ?Introduced a new short term cost of living payment for 2.1 million
    Kiwis, to help with higher grocery and power bills.

    Cause by inflation, caused by the Government spending like all were all >>going to die the next day.


    ?Over 190,000 Kiwis supported to upskill with their trades training
    and apprenticeship programme.
    ?Helped more than one million New Zealanders stay warm over the colder
    months through the Winter Energy Payment.

    But not deat with the cause og high power prices
    Indeed, that "competitive" structure that has the players competing to
    have the highest charges is a right bugger - the option of buying the
    other shareholders out will not be easy.


    ?Increased the minimum wage to $21.20 per hour.

    This was was back when? It is higher now
    Indeed Labour Governments increase it regularly - better than the
    other lot . . .



    ?Delivered more than 12,500 public and transitional homes, as part of
    their plan to deliver more than 18,000 extra places by 2024.

    Delivered a very small number of the number promised
    They also delivered a large number of refurbished state houses, but
    they are well on the way to meeting that target - despite Covid and a
    maxxed out building industry . . .


    ?Extended fuel tax cut and half-price public transport fees, as the
    war in Ukraine drives up fuel prices globally.

    Once again this was months ago. Fuel prices have fallen since then.
    But they did it - the other lot would not have . . .


    ?Made visiting the doctor cheaper or free for nearly 600,000 New
    Zealanders.

    This might be the exception.

    ?Extended paid parental leave from 18 to 26 weeks.
    ?Made the biggest investment in mental health of any Budget.

    Got almost nothing of value out of it
    Paid Parental leave has been good for quite a lot of families; mental
    health will take longer; it is more complex than some other health
    issues and requires recruiting in a difficult market. Both initiatives
    the other lot argued against


    ?Provided healthy, free school lunches to more than 200,000 students
    across the country, with 45 million lunches already served.

    Once agai. Not fixed the problem.
    But a lot further ahead than we were - again fought against by
    National, but not one National would now reverse . . .



    ?Passed the landmark Zero Carbon Act, with a target of net zero carbon
    emissions by 2050.

    This will help to made Kiiws poor, while doing very little to the "cause"
    It may save us paying a lot to other countries - it seems National and
    its supporters don't agree with honouring contracts . . .


    I'll leave it there.

    Seems to be no mention of the Covid response, or indeed all the other >>failures.
    Our Covid response was world-leading - both interms of lives and
    economic resilience https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/300853040/nz-in-a-worse-inflation-position-than-other-countries-infometrics



    ?Upgraded almost every state school in the country through the School
    Investment Package.
    ?Removed fees from NCEA and NZ Scholarship.
    ?Launched the Best Start payment, supporting parents with the costs of
    a newborn.
    ?Launched a new Cancer Action Plan and made the largest ever direct
    investment in new radiation machines.
    ?Secured a historic free trade agreement with the UK, which sees a
    boost of almost $1 billion to New Zealand?s GDP and unprecedented
    access for our exporters.
    ?Funded thousands more places in out of school care (OSCAR), to help
    low-income parents get to work or training.
    ?Extended the bright-line test to 10 years, to dampen speculative
    demand and tilt the balance towards first home buyers.
    ?Delivered pay equity for teacher aides.
    ?Introduced Warmer Kiwi Homes which has delivered almost 80,000
    insulation and heating installs in low-income homes since 2018,
    ensuring more low-income families have healthy homes and reduced power
    bills.
    ?Provided interest-free and low-interest loans to help more than
    115,000 businesses stay afloat during COVID
    ?Established a new Maori Health Authority to improve health outcomes
    for Maori.
    ?Removed abortion from the Crimes Act, to make sure it?s treated as a
    health issue.
    ?Brought back government funding for adult night classes, to give New
    Zealanders more opportunities to keep learning.
    ?Boosted funding for Pharmac to ensure more Kiwis can get lifesaving
    medicines and treatments.
    ?Supporting certificated teachers on the lowest pay in early education
    and care to move closer to pay parity with their equivalents in
    kindergartens.
    ?Invested in over 1,700 regional economic development projects worth
    $4.3 billion.
    ?Backing small and medium sized businesses with a new Business Growth
    Fund
    ?Laid the foundations for a new firearms registry so Police get better
    information on who has what firearms where.
    ?Started planting one billion trees, with more than 349 million
    already in the ground.
    ?Supporting kohanga reo, to ensure kaiako and kaimahi are paid fairly
    and facilities are in good condition.
    ?Rolled out free period products for all student across New Zealand,
    already 1,996 schools and kura have provided 343,472 students with
    access to products.
    ?Committed $50 million to helping councils fully decarbonise the
    public transport bus fleet by 2035.
    ?Created more than 7,190 environmental jobs in our regions through the
    Jobs for Nature programme.
    ?Backed New Zealand exporters during COVID, providing on-the-ground
    support to help them connect with overseas markets.
    ?Helping employers keep and take on new apprentices through
    Apprenticeship Boost.
    ?Backed Kiwi research and development innovators and entrepreneurs
    with a substantial funding boost.
    ?Delivered the largest ever funding boost for disability support
    services.
    ?Established a national energy centre in Taranaki to accelerate the
    development of new clean energy technologies.
    ?Rolling out high quality broadband services to 99.8 percent of the
    population through Ultra-Fast Broadband, Rural Broadband and related
    initiatives.
    ?Launched the successful Opportunities Grow Here campaign to attract
    more people to vital food and fibre sector jobs
    ?Injected more than $2.1 billion into regional economies through
    initiatives like the Provincial Growth Fund.
    ?Increased funding for community law centres.
    ?Rolled out the National Bowel Screening
    Programme to nearly all DHBs
    ?More than doubled the funding for Search and Rescue, recreational
    boating safety and safety awareness to help save lives.
    ?Extended free doctors? visits for children to include 13-year-olds,
    reaching an extra 56,000 young

    Most of these being policies National fought - they only want to drop
    the top tax rate; nothing else matters to them . . .

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Fri Apr 14 14:33:05 2023
    On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 02:22:43 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 13:41:02 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 8:28:33?AM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Just for information. This is of course a very short summary of a few >>>> >of the achievements of the Ardern / Hipkins governments:

    LABOUR HAS
    ?ntroduced a new short term cost of living payment for 2.1 million
    Kiwis, to help with higher grocery and power bills.
    ?ver 190,000 Kiwis supported to upskill with their trades training
    and apprenticeship programme.
    ?elped more than one million New Zealanders stay warm over the colder >>>> >months through the Winter Energy Payment.
    ?ncreased the minimum wage to $21.20 per hour.
    ?elivered more than 12,500 public and transitional homes, as part of
    their plan to deliver more than 18,000 extra places by 2024.
    ?xtended fuel tax cut and half-price public transport fees, as the
    war in Ukraine drives up fuel prices globally.
    ?ade visiting the doctor cheaper or free for nearly 600,000 New
    Zealanders.
    ?xtended paid parental leave from 18 to 26 weeks.
    ?ade the biggest investment in mental health of any Budget.
    ?rovided healthy, free school lunches to more than 200,000 students
    across the country, with 45 million lunches already served.
    ?assed the landmark Zero Carbon Act, with a target of net zero carbon >>>> >emissions by 2050.
    ?pgraded almost every state school in the country through the School
    Investment Package.
    ?emoved fees from NCEA and NZ Scholarship.
    ?aunched the Best Start payment, supporting parents with the costs of >>>> >a newborn.
    ?aunched a new Cancer Action Plan and made the largest ever direct
    investment in new radiation machines.
    ?ecured a historic free trade agreement with the UK, which sees a
    boost of almost $1 billion to New Zealand? GDP and unprecedented
    access for our exporters.
    ?unded thousands more places in out of school care (OSCAR), to help
    low-income parents get to work or training.
    ?xtended the bright-line test to 10 years, to dampen speculative
    demand and tilt the balance towards first home buyers.
    ?elivered pay equity for teacher aides.
    ?ntroduced Warmer Kiwi Homes which has delivered almost 80,000
    insulation and heating installs in low-income homes since 2018,
    ensuring more low-income families have healthy homes and reduced power >>>> >bills.
    ?rovided interest-free and low-interest loans to help more than
    115,000 businesses stay afloat during COVID
    ?stablished a new Maori Health Authority to improve health outcomes
    for Maori.
    ?emoved abortion from the Crimes Act, to make sure it? treated as a
    health issue.
    ?rought back government funding for adult night classes, to give New
    Zealanders more opportunities to keep learning.
    ?oosted funding for Pharmac to ensure more Kiwis can get lifesaving
    medicines and treatments.
    ?upporting certificated teachers on the lowest pay in early education >>>> >and care to move closer to pay parity with their equivalents in
    kindergartens.
    ?nvested in over 1,700 regional economic development projects worth
    $4.3 billion.
    ?acking small and medium sized businesses with a new Business Growth
    Fund
    ?aid the foundations for a new firearms registry so Police get better >>>> >information on who has what firearms where.
    ?tarted planting one billion trees, with more than 349 million
    already in the ground.
    ?upporting kohanga reo, to ensure kaiako and kaimahi are paid fairly
    and facilities are in good condition.
    ?olled out free period products for all student across New Zealand,
    already 1,996 schools and kura have provided 343,472 students with
    access to products.
    ?ommitted $50 million to helping councils fully decarbonise the
    public transport bus fleet by 2035.
    ?reated more than 7,190 environmental jobs in our regions through the >>>> >Jobs for Nature programme.
    ?acked New Zealand exporters during COVID, providing on-the-ground
    support to help them connect with overseas markets.
    ?elping employers keep and take on new apprentices through
    Apprenticeship Boost.
    ?acked Kiwi research and development innovators and entrepreneurs
    with a substantial funding boost.
    ?elivered the largest ever funding boost for disability support
    services.
    ?stablished a national energy centre in Taranaki to accelerate the
    development of new clean energy technologies.
    ?olling out high quality broadband services to 99.8 percent of the
    population through Ultra-Fast Broadband, Rural Broadband and related
    initiatives.
    ?aunched the successful Opportunities Grow Here campaign to attract
    more people to vital food and fibre sector jobs
    ?njected more than $2.1 billion into regional economies through
    initiatives like the Provincial Growth Fund.
    ?ncreased funding for community law centres.
    ?olled out the National Bowel Screening
    Programme to nearly all DHBs
    ?ore than doubled the funding for Search and Rescue, recreational
    boating safety and safety awareness to help save lives.
    ?xtended free doctors?visits for children to include 13-year-olds,
    reaching an extra 56,000 young
    90% of those are things that would have been rubber stamped by a minister >>>>at
    the request of a department - business as usual that would occur under any >>>> government at any time.
    The rest are small - notable absent are every single major promise made >>>>prior
    to the election.
    Good try but no cigar. Just cheap waste of time rhetoric.
    Notice nothing of vital importance in that Labour generated propaganda list? >>>They didn't list a destroyed economy, or it's anti women's rights attitude, or
    it's anti democracy stance, or it's bribery of journalists, or it's support of
    rioting trans. So much Labour is trying to sweep under the carpet...
    On the contrary, New Zealand came through Covid not just with lower
    death rates than any other country, but with low unemployment, and few >>businesses disappearing - our economy has thrived rather than being >>destroyed. Supporting those that differ in some ways from the majority
    is one of New Zealand's real strengths - showed most dramatically
    after the Christchurch shooting with the declaration that 'They are
    Us"; our acceptance of those that are different, including you John
    Bowes, is a real strength of our national we do not rip ourselves
    apart with destructive racism; we endeavour to treat all equally, and, >>unlike the opposition to offer equal opportunities to all New
    Zealanders.
    Co-governance is the very definition of structured racism - how can you fail to
    sicken yourself with such vapid lies?

    Sanctity of contract Tony - National used to believe in that, hence
    the arrangements for the Waikato River. In this case it ensures that
    both treaty partners have the opportunity to give views and
    recoomendations to the decision makers, who are selected on merit.
    Most companies ensure that views of different groups of their
    customers are given the opportunity to express their views - what do
    you have against that?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 14 02:22:43 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 13:41:02 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 8:28:33?AM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Just for information. This is of course a very short summary of a few
    of the achievements of the Ardern / Hipkins governments:

    LABOUR HAS
    ?ntroduced a new short term cost of living payment for 2.1 million
    Kiwis, to help with higher grocery and power bills.
    ?ver 190,000 Kiwis supported to upskill with their trades training
    and apprenticeship programme.
    ?elped more than one million New Zealanders stay warm over the colder
    months through the Winter Energy Payment.
    ?ncreased the minimum wage to $21.20 per hour.
    ?elivered more than 12,500 public and transitional homes, as part of
    their plan to deliver more than 18,000 extra places by 2024.
    ?xtended fuel tax cut and half-price public transport fees, as the
    war in Ukraine drives up fuel prices globally.
    ?ade visiting the doctor cheaper or free for nearly 600,000 New
    Zealanders.
    ?xtended paid parental leave from 18 to 26 weeks.
    ?ade the biggest investment in mental health of any Budget.
    ?rovided healthy, free school lunches to more than 200,000 students
    across the country, with 45 million lunches already served.
    ?assed the landmark Zero Carbon Act, with a target of net zero carbon
    emissions by 2050.
    ?pgraded almost every state school in the country through the School
    Investment Package.
    ?emoved fees from NCEA and NZ Scholarship.
    ?aunched the Best Start payment, supporting parents with the costs of
    a newborn.
    ?aunched a new Cancer Action Plan and made the largest ever direct
    investment in new radiation machines.
    ?ecured a historic free trade agreement with the UK, which sees a
    boost of almost $1 billion to New Zealand? GDP and unprecedented
    access for our exporters.
    ?unded thousands more places in out of school care (OSCAR), to help
    low-income parents get to work or training.
    ?xtended the bright-line test to 10 years, to dampen speculative
    demand and tilt the balance towards first home buyers.
    ?elivered pay equity for teacher aides.
    ?ntroduced Warmer Kiwi Homes which has delivered almost 80,000
    insulation and heating installs in low-income homes since 2018,
    ensuring more low-income families have healthy homes and reduced power
    bills.
    ?rovided interest-free and low-interest loans to help more than
    115,000 businesses stay afloat during COVID
    ?stablished a new Maori Health Authority to improve health outcomes
    for Maori.
    ?emoved abortion from the Crimes Act, to make sure it? treated as a
    health issue.
    ?rought back government funding for adult night classes, to give New
    Zealanders more opportunities to keep learning.
    ?oosted funding for Pharmac to ensure more Kiwis can get lifesaving
    medicines and treatments.
    ?upporting certificated teachers on the lowest pay in early education
    and care to move closer to pay parity with their equivalents in
    kindergartens.
    ?nvested in over 1,700 regional economic development projects worth
    $4.3 billion.
    ?acking small and medium sized businesses with a new Business Growth
    Fund
    ?aid the foundations for a new firearms registry so Police get better
    information on who has what firearms where.
    ?tarted planting one billion trees, with more than 349 million
    already in the ground.
    ?upporting kohanga reo, to ensure kaiako and kaimahi are paid fairly
    and facilities are in good condition.
    ?olled out free period products for all student across New Zealand,
    already 1,996 schools and kura have provided 343,472 students with
    access to products.
    ?ommitted $50 million to helping councils fully decarbonise the
    public transport bus fleet by 2035.
    ?reated more than 7,190 environmental jobs in our regions through the
    Jobs for Nature programme.
    ?acked New Zealand exporters during COVID, providing on-the-ground
    support to help them connect with overseas markets.
    ?elping employers keep and take on new apprentices through
    Apprenticeship Boost.
    ?acked Kiwi research and development innovators and entrepreneurs
    with a substantial funding boost.
    ?elivered the largest ever funding boost for disability support
    services.
    ?stablished a national energy centre in Taranaki to accelerate the
    development of new clean energy technologies.
    ?olling out high quality broadband services to 99.8 percent of the
    population through Ultra-Fast Broadband, Rural Broadband and related
    initiatives.
    ?aunched the successful Opportunities Grow Here campaign to attract
    more people to vital food and fibre sector jobs
    ?njected more than $2.1 billion into regional economies through
    initiatives like the Provincial Growth Fund.
    ?ncreased funding for community law centres.
    ?olled out the National Bowel Screening
    Programme to nearly all DHBs
    ?ore than doubled the funding for Search and Rescue, recreational
    boating safety and safety awareness to help save lives.
    ?xtended free doctors?visits for children to include 13-year-olds,
    reaching an extra 56,000 young
    90% of those are things that would have been rubber stamped by a minister >>>at
    the request of a department - business as usual that would occur under any >>> government at any time.
    The rest are small - notable absent are every single major promise made >>>prior
    to the election.
    Good try but no cigar. Just cheap waste of time rhetoric.
    Notice nothing of vital importance in that Labour generated propaganda list? >>They didn't list a destroyed economy, or it's anti women's rights attitude, or
    it's anti democracy stance, or it's bribery of journalists, or it's support of
    rioting trans. So much Labour is trying to sweep under the carpet...
    On the contrary, New Zealand came through Covid not just with lower
    death rates than any other country, but with low unemployment, and few >businesses disappearing - our economy has thrived rather than being >destroyed. Supporting those that differ in some ways from the majority
    is one of New Zealand's real strengths - showed most dramatically
    after the Christchurch shooting with the declaration that 'They are
    Us"; our acceptance of those that are different, including you John
    Bowes, is a real strength of our national we do not rip ourselves
    apart with destructive racism; we endeavour to treat all equally, and,
    unlike the opposition to offer equal opportunities to all New
    Zealanders.
    Co-governance is the very definition of structured racism - how can you fail to sicken yourself with such vapid lies?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 13 20:41:00 2023
    On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 1:46:43 PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On 14 Apr 2023 00:49:37 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-04-13, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:

    Just for information. This is of course a very short summary of a few
    of the achievements of the Ardern / Hipkins governments:

    LABOUR HAS
    PROVED TO BE THE GOVERNMENT OF CONSTANT LIES AND REMOVAL OF FREEDOMS!
    ?Introduced a new short term cost of living payment for 2.1 million
    Kiwis, to help with higher grocery and power bills.

    Cause by inflation, caused by the Government spending like all were all >going to die the next day.
    ?Over 190,000 Kiwis supported to upskill with their trades training
    and apprenticeship programme.
    ?Helped more than one million New Zealanders stay warm over the colder
    months through the Winter Energy Payment.

    But not deat with the cause og high power prices
    Indeed, that "competitive" structure that has the players competing to
    have the highest charges is a right bugger - the option of buying the
    other shareholders out will not be easy.

    Utter garbage! The government has the numbers to tell the energy company's not to raise prices. A good way of slowing down inflation and helping people especially when those company's are making bigger profits than they have in the past!

    ?Increased the minimum wage to $21.20 per hour.

    This was was back when? It is higher now
    Indeed Labour Governments increase it regularly - better than the
    other lot . . .

    Then wonders why the cost of living climbs to ever increasing highs. Typical of numbskulls like you Rich80105!



    ?Delivered more than 12,500 public and transitional homes, as part of
    their plan to deliver more than 18,000 extra places by 2024.

    Delivered a very small number of the number promised
    They also delivered a large number of refurbished state houses, but
    they are well on the way to meeting that target - despite Covid and a
    maxxed out building industry . . .

    They never delivered what they promised Rich and they even claimed a thousand or so that were started by National! You have very convenient memory when it comes to blaming National and no memory when it comes to accepting what National has done. Typical
    of fucking imbeciles like you Rich80105!


    ?Extended fuel tax cut and half-price public transport fees, as the
    war in Ukraine drives up fuel prices globally.

    Once again this was months ago. Fuel prices have fallen since then.
    But they did it - the other lot would not have . . .

    Twisted history from the ever more twisted and twisting Rich80105! Labour's increased taxes pushed the price of petrol up long before they showed enough kindness to lower it because of the drop in Labour's poll results!


    ?Made visiting the doctor cheaper or free for nearly 600,000 New
    Zealanders.

    This might be the exception.

    ?Extended paid parental leave from 18 to 26 weeks.
    ?Made the biggest investment in mental health of any Budget.

    Got almost nothing of value out of it

    What do you mean almost nothing? Labour poured over a $billion into it and mental health facilities closed down because Labour didn't bother to do anything about the staffing lack!

    Paid Parental leave has been good for quite a lot of families; mental
    health will take longer; it is more complex than some other health
    issues and requires recruiting in a difficult market. Both initiatives
    the other lot argued against

    Not against Rich. Just against Labours crazy approach to it! Hell even Ardern didn't take advantage of the long leave Labour brought in for new parents!


    ?Provided healthy, free school lunches to more than 200,000 students
    across the country, with 45 million lunches already served.

    Once agai. Not fixed the problem.
    But a lot further ahead than we were - again fought against by
    National, but not one National would now reverse . . .

    WOW! What a load of virtue signalling bullshit. Yes it's good that kids are getting lunches but the whole process was started by private operators long before your useless Ardern got into action with the photo ops!



    ?Passed the landmark Zero Carbon Act, with a target of net zero carbon
    emissions by 2050.

    This will help to made Kiiws poor, while doing very little to the "cause"
    It may save us paying a lot to other countries - it seems National and
    its supporters don't agree with honouring contracts . . .

    It isn't going to make an iota of difference to climate change Rich. Whether or not we can achieve those targets without buying yet more carbon credits at stupid prices for an utter ridiculous virtue signalling piece of crap!

    I'll leave it there.

    Seems to be no mention of the Covid response, or indeed all the other >failures.
    Our Covid response was world-leading - both interms of lives and
    economic resilience

    Not to mention in breach of our very own bill of rights! Our Covid response was garbage in the end Rich and the fact your government is still keeping some of it's useless mandates in place only displays how bloody stupid you and they are Rich!



    ?Upgraded almost every state school in the country through the School
    Investment Package.
    ?Removed fees from NCEA and NZ Scholarship.
    ?Launched the Best Start payment, supporting parents with the costs of
    a newborn.
    ?Launched a new Cancer Action Plan and made the largest ever direct
    investment in new radiation machines.
    ?Secured a historic free trade agreement with the UK, which sees a
    boost of almost $1 billion to New Zealand?s GDP and unprecedented
    access for our exporters.
    ?Funded thousands more places in out of school care (OSCAR), to help
    low-income parents get to work or training.
    ?Extended the bright-line test to 10 years, to dampen speculative
    demand and tilt the balance towards first home buyers.
    ?Delivered pay equity for teacher aides.
    ?Introduced Warmer Kiwi Homes which has delivered almost 80,000
    insulation and heating installs in low-income homes since 2018,
    ensuring more low-income families have healthy homes and reduced power
    bills.
    ?Provided interest-free and low-interest loans to help more than
    115,000 businesses stay afloat during COVID
    ?Established a new Maori Health Authority to improve health outcomes
    for Maori.
    ?Removed abortion from the Crimes Act, to make sure it?s treated as a
    health issue.
    ?Brought back government funding for adult night classes, to give New
    Zealanders more opportunities to keep learning.
    ?Boosted funding for Pharmac to ensure more Kiwis can get lifesaving
    medicines and treatments.
    ?Supporting certificated teachers on the lowest pay in early education
    and care to move closer to pay parity with their equivalents in
    kindergartens.
    ?Invested in over 1,700 regional economic development projects worth
    $4.3 billion.
    ?Backing small and medium sized businesses with a new Business Growth
    Fund
    ?Laid the foundations for a new firearms registry so Police get better
    information on who has what firearms where.
    ?Started planting one billion trees, with more than 349 million
    already in the ground.
    ?Supporting kohanga reo, to ensure kaiako and kaimahi are paid fairly
    and facilities are in good condition.
    ?Rolled out free period products for all student across New Zealand,
    already 1,996 schools and kura have provided 343,472 students with
    access to products.
    ?Committed $50 million to helping councils fully decarbonise the
    public transport bus fleet by 2035.
    ?Created more than 7,190 environmental jobs in our regions through the
    Jobs for Nature programme.
    ?Backed New Zealand exporters during COVID, providing on-the-ground
    support to help them connect with overseas markets.
    ?Helping employers keep and take on new apprentices through
    Apprenticeship Boost.
    ?Backed Kiwi research and development innovators and entrepreneurs
    with a substantial funding boost.
    ?Delivered the largest ever funding boost for disability support
    services.
    ?Established a national energy centre in Taranaki to accelerate the
    development of new clean energy technologies.
    ?Rolling out high quality broadband services to 99.8 percent of the
    population through Ultra-Fast Broadband, Rural Broadband and related
    initiatives.
    ?Launched the successful Opportunities Grow Here campaign to attract
    more people to vital food and fibre sector jobs
    ?Injected more than $2.1 billion into regional economies through
    initiatives like the Provincial Growth Fund.
    ?Increased funding for community law centres.
    ?Rolled out the National Bowel Screening
    Programme to nearly all DHBs
    ?More than doubled the funding for Search and Rescue, recreational
    boating safety and safety awareness to help save lives.
    ?Extended free doctors? visits for children to include 13-year-olds,
    reaching an extra 56,000 young
    Most of these being policies National fought - they only want to drop
    the top tax rate; nothing else matters to them . . .
    Utter bullshit from a professional bullshit spreader. What a vapid and woke feral slime you are Rich!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 14 03:43:38 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 02:22:43 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 13:41:02 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 8:28:33?AM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Just for information. This is of course a very short summary of a few >>>>> >of the achievements of the Ardern / Hipkins governments:

    LABOUR HAS
    ?ntroduced a new short term cost of living payment for 2.1 million
    Kiwis, to help with higher grocery and power bills.
    ?ver 190,000 Kiwis supported to upskill with their trades training
    and apprenticeship programme.
    ?elped more than one million New Zealanders stay warm over the colder >>>>> >months through the Winter Energy Payment.
    ?ncreased the minimum wage to $21.20 per hour.
    ?elivered more than 12,500 public and transitional homes, as part of >>>>> >their plan to deliver more than 18,000 extra places by 2024.
    ?xtended fuel tax cut and half-price public transport fees, as the
    war in Ukraine drives up fuel prices globally.
    ?ade visiting the doctor cheaper or free for nearly 600,000 New
    Zealanders.
    ?xtended paid parental leave from 18 to 26 weeks.
    ?ade the biggest investment in mental health of any Budget.
    ?rovided healthy, free school lunches to more than 200,000 students >>>>> >across the country, with 45 million lunches already served.
    ?assed the landmark Zero Carbon Act, with a target of net zero carbon >>>>> >emissions by 2050.
    ?pgraded almost every state school in the country through the School >>>>> >Investment Package.
    ?emoved fees from NCEA and NZ Scholarship.
    ?aunched the Best Start payment, supporting parents with the costs of >>>>> >a newborn.
    ?aunched a new Cancer Action Plan and made the largest ever direct
    investment in new radiation machines.
    ?ecured a historic free trade agreement with the UK, which sees a
    boost of almost $1 billion to New Zealand? GDP and unprecedented
    access for our exporters.
    ?unded thousands more places in out of school care (OSCAR), to help >>>>> >low-income parents get to work or training.
    ?xtended the bright-line test to 10 years, to dampen speculative
    demand and tilt the balance towards first home buyers.
    ?elivered pay equity for teacher aides.
    ?ntroduced Warmer Kiwi Homes which has delivered almost 80,000
    insulation and heating installs in low-income homes since 2018,
    ensuring more low-income families have healthy homes and reduced power >>>>> >bills.
    ?rovided interest-free and low-interest loans to help more than
    115,000 businesses stay afloat during COVID
    ?stablished a new Maori Health Authority to improve health outcomes >>>>> >for Maori.
    ?emoved abortion from the Crimes Act, to make sure it? treated as a >>>>> >health issue.
    ?rought back government funding for adult night classes, to give New >>>>> >Zealanders more opportunities to keep learning.
    ?oosted funding for Pharmac to ensure more Kiwis can get lifesaving >>>>> >medicines and treatments.
    ?upporting certificated teachers on the lowest pay in early education >>>>> >and care to move closer to pay parity with their equivalents in
    kindergartens.
    ?nvested in over 1,700 regional economic development projects worth >>>>> >$4.3 billion.
    ?acking small and medium sized businesses with a new Business Growth >>>>> >Fund
    ?aid the foundations for a new firearms registry so Police get better >>>>> >information on who has what firearms where.
    ?tarted planting one billion trees, with more than 349 million
    already in the ground.
    ?upporting kohanga reo, to ensure kaiako and kaimahi are paid fairly >>>>> >and facilities are in good condition.
    ?olled out free period products for all student across New Zealand, >>>>> >already 1,996 schools and kura have provided 343,472 students with
    access to products.
    ?ommitted $50 million to helping councils fully decarbonise the
    public transport bus fleet by 2035.
    ?reated more than 7,190 environmental jobs in our regions through the >>>>> >Jobs for Nature programme.
    ?acked New Zealand exporters during COVID, providing on-the-ground
    support to help them connect with overseas markets.
    ?elping employers keep and take on new apprentices through
    Apprenticeship Boost.
    ?acked Kiwi research and development innovators and entrepreneurs
    with a substantial funding boost.
    ?elivered the largest ever funding boost for disability support
    services.
    ?stablished a national energy centre in Taranaki to accelerate the
    development of new clean energy technologies.
    ?olling out high quality broadband services to 99.8 percent of the
    population through Ultra-Fast Broadband, Rural Broadband and related >>>>> >initiatives.
    ?aunched the successful Opportunities Grow Here campaign to attract >>>>> >more people to vital food and fibre sector jobs
    ?njected more than $2.1 billion into regional economies through
    initiatives like the Provincial Growth Fund.
    ?ncreased funding for community law centres.
    ?olled out the National Bowel Screening
    Programme to nearly all DHBs
    ?ore than doubled the funding for Search and Rescue, recreational
    boating safety and safety awareness to help save lives.
    ?xtended free doctors?visits for children to include 13-year-olds,
    reaching an extra 56,000 young
    90% of those are things that would have been rubber stamped by a minister >>>>>at
    the request of a department - business as usual that would occur under >>>>>any
    government at any time.
    The rest are small - notable absent are every single major promise made >>>>>prior
    to the election.
    Good try but no cigar. Just cheap waste of time rhetoric.
    Notice nothing of vital importance in that Labour generated propaganda >>>>list?
    They didn't list a destroyed economy, or it's anti women's rights attitude, >>>>or
    it's anti democracy stance, or it's bribery of journalists, or it's support >>>>of
    rioting trans. So much Labour is trying to sweep under the carpet...
    On the contrary, New Zealand came through Covid not just with lower
    death rates than any other country, but with low unemployment, and few >>>businesses disappearing - our economy has thrived rather than being >>>destroyed. Supporting those that differ in some ways from the majority
    is one of New Zealand's real strengths - showed most dramatically
    after the Christchurch shooting with the declaration that 'They are
    Us"; our acceptance of those that are different, including you John >>>Bowes, is a real strength of our national we do not rip ourselves
    apart with destructive racism; we endeavour to treat all equally, and, >>>unlike the opposition to offer equal opportunities to all New
    Zealanders.
    Co-governance is the very definition of structured racism - how can you fail >>to
    sicken yourself with such vapid lies?

    Sanctity of contract Tony - National used to believe in that, hence
    the arrangements for the Waikato River. In this case it ensures that
    both treaty partners have the opportunity to give views and
    recoomendations to the decision makers, who are selected on merit.
    Most companies ensure that views of different groups of their
    customers are given the opportunity to express their views - what do
    you have against that?
    There is no contract that providea for co-governance. Not even a sniff of one. Provide an authentic contract in full or go to blazes.
    In addition, the current co-governance legislations do not provide for both parties or partners to give views. They are one-sided. 17% of the population decide and 83% have no say.
    That is racism, pure and simple. Just like you, purely simple.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 13 20:44:24 2023
    On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 2:36:38 PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 02:22:43 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 13:41:02 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 8:28:33?AM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Just for information. This is of course a very short summary of a few >>>> >of the achievements of the Ardern / Hipkins governments:

    LABOUR HAS
    ?ntroduced a new short term cost of living payment for 2.1 million >>>> >Kiwis, to help with higher grocery and power bills.
    ?ver 190,000 Kiwis supported to upskill with their trades training >>>> >and apprenticeship programme.
    ?elped more than one million New Zealanders stay warm over the colder >>>> >months through the Winter Energy Payment.
    ?ncreased the minimum wage to $21.20 per hour.
    ?elivered more than 12,500 public and transitional homes, as part of >>>> >their plan to deliver more than 18,000 extra places by 2024.
    ?xtended fuel tax cut and half-price public transport fees, as the >>>> >war in Ukraine drives up fuel prices globally.
    ?ade visiting the doctor cheaper or free for nearly 600,000 New
    Zealanders.
    ?xtended paid parental leave from 18 to 26 weeks.
    ?ade the biggest investment in mental health of any Budget.
    ?rovided healthy, free school lunches to more than 200,000 students >>>> >across the country, with 45 million lunches already served.
    ?assed the landmark Zero Carbon Act, with a target of net zero carbon >>>> >emissions by 2050.
    ?pgraded almost every state school in the country through the School >>>> >Investment Package.
    ?emoved fees from NCEA and NZ Scholarship.
    ?aunched the Best Start payment, supporting parents with the costs of >>>> >a newborn.
    ?aunched a new Cancer Action Plan and made the largest ever direct >>>> >investment in new radiation machines.
    ?ecured a historic free trade agreement with the UK, which sees a
    boost of almost $1 billion to New Zealand? GDP and unprecedented
    access for our exporters.
    ?unded thousands more places in out of school care (OSCAR), to help >>>> >low-income parents get to work or training.
    ?xtended the bright-line test to 10 years, to dampen speculative
    demand and tilt the balance towards first home buyers.
    ?elivered pay equity for teacher aides.
    ?ntroduced Warmer Kiwi Homes which has delivered almost 80,000
    insulation and heating installs in low-income homes since 2018,
    ensuring more low-income families have healthy homes and reduced power >>>> >bills.
    ?rovided interest-free and low-interest loans to help more than
    115,000 businesses stay afloat during COVID
    ?stablished a new Maori Health Authority to improve health outcomes >>>> >for Maori.
    ?emoved abortion from the Crimes Act, to make sure it? treated as a >>>> >health issue.
    ?rought back government funding for adult night classes, to give New >>>> >Zealanders more opportunities to keep learning.
    ?oosted funding for Pharmac to ensure more Kiwis can get lifesaving >>>> >medicines and treatments.
    ?upporting certificated teachers on the lowest pay in early education >>>> >and care to move closer to pay parity with their equivalents in
    kindergartens.
    ?nvested in over 1,700 regional economic development projects worth >>>> >$4.3 billion.
    ?acking small and medium sized businesses with a new Business Growth >>>> >Fund
    ?aid the foundations for a new firearms registry so Police get better >>>> >information on who has what firearms where.
    ?tarted planting one billion trees, with more than 349 million
    already in the ground.
    ?upporting kohanga reo, to ensure kaiako and kaimahi are paid fairly >>>> >and facilities are in good condition.
    ?olled out free period products for all student across New Zealand, >>>> >already 1,996 schools and kura have provided 343,472 students with >>>> >access to products.
    ?ommitted $50 million to helping councils fully decarbonise the
    public transport bus fleet by 2035.
    ?reated more than 7,190 environmental jobs in our regions through the >>>> >Jobs for Nature programme.
    ?acked New Zealand exporters during COVID, providing on-the-ground >>>> >support to help them connect with overseas markets.
    ?elping employers keep and take on new apprentices through
    Apprenticeship Boost.
    ?acked Kiwi research and development innovators and entrepreneurs
    with a substantial funding boost.
    ?elivered the largest ever funding boost for disability support
    services.
    ?stablished a national energy centre in Taranaki to accelerate the >>>> >development of new clean energy technologies.
    ?olling out high quality broadband services to 99.8 percent of the >>>> >population through Ultra-Fast Broadband, Rural Broadband and related >>>> >initiatives.
    ?aunched the successful Opportunities Grow Here campaign to attract >>>> >more people to vital food and fibre sector jobs
    ?njected more than $2.1 billion into regional economies through
    initiatives like the Provincial Growth Fund.
    ?ncreased funding for community law centres.
    ?olled out the National Bowel Screening
    Programme to nearly all DHBs
    ?ore than doubled the funding for Search and Rescue, recreational
    boating safety and safety awareness to help save lives.
    ?xtended free doctors?visits for children to include 13-year-olds, >>>> >reaching an extra 56,000 young
    90% of those are things that would have been rubber stamped by a minister
    at
    the request of a department - business as usual that would occur under any
    government at any time.
    The rest are small - notable absent are every single major promise made >>>>prior
    to the election.
    Good try but no cigar. Just cheap waste of time rhetoric.
    Notice nothing of vital importance in that Labour generated propaganda list?
    They didn't list a destroyed economy, or it's anti women's rights attitude, or
    it's anti democracy stance, or it's bribery of journalists, or it's support of
    rioting trans. So much Labour is trying to sweep under the carpet...
    On the contrary, New Zealand came through Covid not just with lower >>death rates than any other country, but with low unemployment, and few >>businesses disappearing - our economy has thrived rather than being >>destroyed. Supporting those that differ in some ways from the majority >>is one of New Zealand's real strengths - showed most dramatically
    after the Christchurch shooting with the declaration that 'They are
    Us"; our acceptance of those that are different, including you John >>Bowes, is a real strength of our national we do not rip ourselves
    apart with destructive racism; we endeavour to treat all equally, and, >>unlike the opposition to offer equal opportunities to all New >>Zealanders.
    Co-governance is the very definition of structured racism - how can you fail to
    sicken yourself with such vapid lies?
    Sanctity of contract Tony - National used to believe in that, hence
    the arrangements for the Waikato River. In this case it ensures that
    both treaty partners have the opportunity to give views and
    recoomendations to the decision makers, who are selected on merit.
    Most companies ensure that views of different groups of their
    customers are given the opportunity to express their views - what do
    you have against that?
    Utter BULLSHIT! But pretty typical of the imbecile that thinks sir Apirana Ngata wrote his book on Te Triti in Maori because he was trying to explain it to pakeha :)
    Rich all your protestations of everything Labour does is good is just a sign of just how stupid you are. Science degree? Only if it's a science of stupid degree brought from some checkbook midwest degree mill!

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  • From BR@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 14 17:32:23 2023
    On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 08:16:44 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:


    Just for information. This is of course a very short summary of a few
    of the achievements of the Ardern / Hipkins governments:

    LABOUR HAS
    •Introduced blah blah blah...

    Where did you cut & paste that from?

    Bill.

    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
    https://www.avg.com

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to blah@blah.blah on Fri Apr 14 07:47:10 2023
    On 2023-04-14, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 08:16:44 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:


    Just for information. This is of course a very short summary of a few
    of the achievements of the Ardern / Hipkins governments:

    LABOUR HAS
    •Introduced blah blah blah...

    Where did you cut & paste that from?

    It looks like it might have been from

    https://www.labour.org.nz/our-record

    Warning, the list is even longer and more fizzy junk than Rich's posting.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to Gordon on Fri Apr 14 22:20:16 2023
    On 14 Apr 2023 07:47:10 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-04-14, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 08:16:44 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:


    Just for information. This is of course a very short summary of a few
    of the achievements of the Ardern / Hipkins governments:

    LABOUR HAS
    ?Introduced blah blah blah...

    Where did you cut & paste that from?

    It looks like it might have been from

    https://www.labour.org.nz/our-record

    Warning, the list is even longer and more fizzy junk than Rich's posting.

    Thanks for that - I had not seen it before. There were quite a few
    different successes listed that were not on the list I posted.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 14 20:47:12 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 14 Apr 2023 07:47:10 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-04-14, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 08:16:44 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:


    Just for information. This is of course a very short summary of a few >>>>of the achievements of the Ardern / Hipkins governments:

    LABOUR HAS
    ?Introduced blah blah blah...

    Where did you cut & paste that from?

    It looks like it might have been from

    https://www.labour.org.nz/our-record

    Warning, the list is even longer and more fizzy junk than Rich's posting.

    Thanks for that - I had not seen it before. There were quite a few
    different successes listed that were not on the list I posted.
    For sure your list was very short on successes, well done for making the point.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 14 14:57:38 2023
    On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 9:45:40 AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 20:47:12 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 14 Apr 2023 07:47:10 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-04-14, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 08:16:44 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>> wrote:


    Just for information. This is of course a very short summary of a few >>>>>of the achievements of the Ardern / Hipkins governments:

    LABOUR HAS
    ?Introduced blah blah blah...

    Where did you cut & paste that from?

    It looks like it might have been from

    https://www.labour.org.nz/our-record

    Warning, the list is even longer and more fizzy junk than Rich's posting. >>
    Thanks for that - I had not seen it before. There were quite a few >>different successes listed that were not on the list I posted.
    For sure your list was very short on successes, well done for making the point.
    I agree there have been many more successes - I did say it was a
    partial list. The major successes are of course the covid response.
    the business subsidies that led to better economic recovery than most countries, and all the other actions which have meant we have had
    lower inflation than most developed countries, despite price hikes for
    fuel and many other imported goods.
    You confuse successes with election bribes Rich. Pity our useless government couldn't stop the experience drain to Australia or deliver on the promises it made the last two elections. Instead they're proud to help screw up susceptible kids to trans/gay
    grooming!

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Sat Apr 15 09:41:12 2023
    On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 20:47:12 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 14 Apr 2023 07:47:10 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-04-14, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 08:16:44 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:


    Just for information. This is of course a very short summary of a few >>>>>of the achievements of the Ardern / Hipkins governments:

    LABOUR HAS
    ?Introduced blah blah blah...

    Where did you cut & paste that from?

    It looks like it might have been from

    https://www.labour.org.nz/our-record

    Warning, the list is even longer and more fizzy junk than Rich's posting.

    Thanks for that - I had not seen it before. There were quite a few >>different successes listed that were not on the list I posted.
    For sure your list was very short on successes, well done for making the point.

    I agree there have been many more successes - I did say it was a
    partial list. The major successes are of course the covid response.
    the business subsidies that led to better economic recovery than most countries, and all the other actions which have meant we have had
    lower inflation than most developed countries, despite price hikes for
    fuel and many other imported goods.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sat Apr 15 00:09:30 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 20:47:12 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 14 Apr 2023 07:47:10 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-04-14, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 08:16:44 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>> wrote:


    Just for information. This is of course a very short summary of a few >>>>>>of the achievements of the Ardern / Hipkins governments:

    LABOUR HAS
    ?Introduced blah blah blah...

    Where did you cut & paste that from?

    It looks like it might have been from

    https://www.labour.org.nz/our-record

    Warning, the list is even longer and more fizzy junk than Rich's posting. >>>
    Thanks for that - I had not seen it before. There were quite a few >>>different successes listed that were not on the list I posted.
    For sure your list was very short on successes, well done for making the >>point.

    I agree there have been many more successes - I did say it was a
    partial list. The major successes are of course the covid response.
    the business subsidies that led to better economic recovery than most >countries, and all the other actions which have meant we have had
    lower inflation than most developed countries, despite price hikes for
    fuel and many other imported goods.
    No that is disputed, I posted one expert opinion the other day but you ignored that as usual.
    And stop twisting what I wrote, your list of successes is a crock and everybody but you know that to be true.

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